Does anyone have a favorite high-current PCB connector?
I'd like to get 20 wires into a pluggable connector, to go on a module
like this:
https://highlandtechnology.com/Product/P948
We need at least 7 amps per contact.
That litle green Phoenix connector is cool. Wires screw into it
without tooling, and it's easy to mate and unmate. But it's only 5
pins.
I was planning to use four of them, with two on a baby board, but that
idea wasn't popular.
Does anyone have a favorite high-current PCB connector?
I'd like to get 20 wires into a pluggable connector, to go on a module
like this:
https://highlandtechnology.com/Product/P948
We need at least 7 amps per contact.
That litle green Phoenix connector is cool. Wires screw into it
without tooling, and it's easy to mate and unmate. But it's only 5
pins.
I was planning to use four of them, with two on a baby board, but that
idea wasn't popular.
On 2/14/2025 11:37 AM, john larkin wrote:
Does anyone have a favorite high-current PCB connector?
I'd like to get 20 wires into a pluggable connector, to go on a module
like this:
https://highlandtechnology.com/Product/P948
We need at least 7 amps per contact.
That litle green Phoenix connector is cool. Wires screw into it
without tooling, and it's easy to mate and unmate. But it's only 5
pins.
I was planning to use four of them, with two on a baby board, but that
idea wasn't popular.
Nice device, as I understand it what it does is if your cables are too
good it randomly makes some of them faulty, and then the user has to
figure out which one of them it is. Makes life more interesting!
Does anyone have a favorite high-current PCB connector?
I'd like to get 20 wires into a pluggable connector, to go on a module
like this:
https://highlandtechnology.com/Product/P948
We need at least 7 amps per contact.
That litle green Phoenix connector is cool. Wires screw into it
without tooling, and it's easy to mate and unmate. But it's only 5
pins.
I was planning to use four of them, with two on a baby board, but that
idea wasn't popular.
john larkin <JL@gct.com> wrote:
Does anyone have a favorite high-current PCB connector?
I'd like to get 20 wires into a pluggable connector, to go on a module
like this:
https://highlandtechnology.com/Product/P948
We need at least 7 amps per contact.
That litle green Phoenix connector is cool. Wires screw into it
without tooling, and it's easy to mate and unmate. But it's only 5
pins.
I was planning to use four of them, with two on a baby board, but that
idea wasn't popular.
Phoenix do make 20 pin version (as two rows of ten) with 10 amp per pin on 200 mil pitch.
Does anyone have a favorite high-current PCB connector?
I'd like to get 20 wires into a pluggable connector, to go on a module
like this:
https://highlandtechnology.com/Product/P948
We need at least 7 amps per contact.
That litle green Phoenix connector is cool. Wires screw into it
without tooling, and it's easy to mate and unmate. But it's only 5
pins.
I was planning to use four of them, with two on a baby board, but that
idea wasn't popular.
john larkin <JL@gct.com> wrote:
Does anyone have a favorite high-current PCB connector?
I'd like to get 20 wires into a pluggable connector, to go on a module
like this:
https://highlandtechnology.com/Product/P948
We need at least 7 amps per contact.
That litle green Phoenix connector is cool. Wires screw into it
without tooling, and it's easy to mate and unmate. But it's only 5
pins.
I was planning to use four of them, with two on a baby board, but that
idea wasn't popular.
Phoenix do make 20 pin version (as two rows of ten) with 10 amp per pin on >200 mil pitch.
piglet <erichpwagner@hotmail.com> wrote:
john larkin <JL@gct.com> wrote:
Does anyone have a favorite high-current PCB connector?
I'd like to get 20 wires into a pluggable connector, to go on a module
like this:
https://highlandtechnology.com/Product/P948
We need at least 7 amps per contact.
That litle green Phoenix connector is cool. Wires screw into it
without tooling, and it's easy to mate and unmate. But it's only 5
pins.
I was planning to use four of them, with two on a baby board, but that
idea wasn't popular.
Phoenix do make 20 pin version (as two rows of ten) with 10 amp per pin on >> 200 mil pitch.
Do they actually make them m, as in somebody has them for sale, or are they just listed in a catalogue?
Connector catalogs are full of things that they would love to make for you
if you want to order 100,000 pieces and can wait six months.
Cheers
Phil Hobbs
On 15/02/2025 12:20 am, Phil Hobbs wrote:
piglet <erichpwagner@hotmail.com> wrote:
john larkin <JL@gct.com> wrote:
Does anyone have a favorite high-current PCB connector?
I'd like to get 20 wires into a pluggable connector, to go on a module >>>> like this:
https://highlandtechnology.com/Product/P948
We need at least 7 amps per contact.
That litle green Phoenix connector is cool. Wires screw into it
without tooling, and it's easy to mate and unmate. But it's only 5
pins.
I was planning to use four of them, with two on a baby board, but that >>>> idea wasn't popular.
Phoenix do make 20 pin version (as two rows of ten) with 10 amp per pin on >>> 200 mil pitch.
Do they actually make them m, as in somebody has them for sale, or are they >> just listed in a catalogue?
Connector catalogs are full of things that they would love to make for you >> if you want to order 100,000 pieces and can wait six months.
Cheers
Phil Hobbs
But JL's customers are aerospace so will be used to exotic, hard to find >connectors - would they respect him for using an easily buyable connector :)
piglet
On Sat, 15 Feb 2025 14:13:20 +0000, piglet <erichpwagner@hotmail.com>
wrote:
On 15/02/2025 12:20 am, Phil Hobbs wrote:
piglet <erichpwagner@hotmail.com> wrote:
john larkin <JL@gct.com> wrote:
Does anyone have a favorite high-current PCB connector?
I'd like to get 20 wires into a pluggable connector, to go on a module >>>>> like this:
https://highlandtechnology.com/Product/P948
We need at least 7 amps per contact.
That litle green Phoenix connector is cool. Wires screw into it
without tooling, and it's easy to mate and unmate. But it's only 5
pins.
I was planning to use four of them, with two on a baby board, but that >>>>> idea wasn't popular.
Phoenix do make 20 pin version (as two rows of ten) with 10 amp per pin on
200 mil pitch.
Do they actually make them m, as in somebody has them for sale, or are they >>> just listed in a catalogue?
Connector catalogs are full of things that they would love to make for you >>> if you want to order 100,000 pieces and can wait six months.
Cheers
Phil Hobbs
But JL's customers are aerospace so will be used to exotic, hard to find
connectors - would they respect him for using an easily buyable connector :) >>
piglet
The nice thing about the Phoenix connectors is that you don't need a
soldring iron or pins and crimp tools to terminate wires, just a small screwdriver.
On 16/02/2025 3:17 am, john larkin wrote:
On Sat, 15 Feb 2025 14:13:20 +0000, piglet <erichpwagner@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 15/02/2025 12:20 am, Phil Hobbs wrote:
piglet <erichpwagner@hotmail.com> wrote:
john larkin <JL@gct.com> wrote:
Does anyone have a favorite high-current PCB connector?
I'd like to get 20 wires into a pluggable connector, to go on a
module like this:
https://highlandtechnology.com/Product/P948
We need at least 7 amps per contact.
That litle green Phoenix connector is cool. Wires screw into it
without tooling, and it's easy to mate and unmate. But it's only 5 >>>>> pins.
I was planning to use four of them, with two on a baby board, but
that idea wasn't popular.
Phoenix do make 20 pin version (as two rows of ten) with 10 amp per >>>> pin on 200 mil pitch.
Do they actually make them m, as in somebody has them for sale, or are >>> they just listed in a catalogue?
Connector catalogs are full of things that they would love to make for >>> you if you want to order 100,000 pieces and can wait six months.
Cheers
Phil Hobbs
But JL's customers are aerospace so will be used to exotic, hard to
find connectors - would they respect him for using an easily buyable
connector :)
piglet
The nice thing about the Phoenix connectors is that you don't need a soldring iron or pins and crimp tools to terminate wires, just a small screwdriver.
That's not nice. It's just cheap. At Cambridge Instruments the argument
for going over to crimp connectors was that you found a lot less duff connections when you were putting product through final test.
The parts and tools were more expensive, but fault-finding and fault correction were expensive enough to tip the balance.
Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote:
On 16/02/2025 3:17 am, john larkin wrote:
On Sat, 15 Feb 2025 14:13:20 +0000, piglet <erichpwagner@hotmail.com>
wrote:
On 15/02/2025 12:20 am, Phil Hobbs wrote:
piglet <erichpwagner@hotmail.com> wrote:
john larkin <JL@gct.com> wrote:
Does anyone have a favorite high-current PCB connector?
I'd like to get 20 wires into a pluggable connector, to go on a
module like this:
https://highlandtechnology.com/Product/P948
We need at least 7 amps per contact.
That litle green Phoenix connector is cool. Wires screw into it
without tooling, and it's easy to mate and unmate. But it's only 5 >>>>>>> pins.
I was planning to use four of them, with two on a baby board, but >>>>>>> that idea wasn't popular.
Phoenix do make 20 pin version (as two rows of ten) with 10 amp per >>>>>> pin on 200 mil pitch.
Do they actually make them m, as in somebody has them for sale, or are >>>>> they just listed in a catalogue?
Connector catalogs are full of things that they would love to make for >>>>> you if you want to order 100,000 pieces and can wait six months.
Cheers
Phil Hobbs
But JL's customers are aerospace so will be used to exotic, hard to
find connectors - would they respect him for using an easily buyable
connector :)
piglet
The nice thing about the Phoenix connectors is that you don't need a
soldring iron or pins and crimp tools to terminate wires, just a small
screwdriver.
That's not nice. It's just cheap. At Cambridge Instruments the argument
for going over to crimp connectors was that you found a lot less duff
connections when you were putting product through final test.
The parts and tools were more expensive, but fault-finding and fault
correction were expensive enough to tip the balance.
Was the cost of repair throughout the equipment's lifetime taken into account? Faulty crimps, especially if the wires are a bit short, can
take ages to put right.
On 16.2.2025 7.11, Bill Sloman wrote:
On 16/02/2025 3:17 am, john larkin wrote:
On Sat, 15 Feb 2025 14:13:20 +0000, piglet <erichpwagner@hotmail.com>
wrote:
On 15/02/2025 12:20 am, Phil Hobbs wrote:
piglet <erichpwagner@hotmail.com> wrote:
john larkin <JL@gct.com> wrote:
Does anyone have a favorite high-current PCB connector?
I'd like to get 20 wires into a pluggable connector, to go on a
module
like this:
https://highlandtechnology.com/Product/P948
We need at least 7 amps per contact.
That litle green Phoenix connector is cool. Wires screw into it
without tooling, and it's easy to mate and unmate. But it's only 5 >>>>>>> pins.
I was planning to use four of them, with two on a baby board, but >>>>>>> that
idea wasn't popular.
Phoenix do make 20 pin version (as two rows of ten) with 10 amp
per pin on
200 mil pitch.
Do they actually make them m, as in somebody has them for sale, or
are they
just listed in a catalogue?
Connector catalogs are full of things that they would love to make
for you
if you want to order 100,000 pieces and can wait six months.
Cheers
Phil Hobbs
But JL's customers are aerospace so will be used to exotic, hard to find >>>> connectors - would they respect him for using an easily buyable
connector :)
piglet
The nice thing about the Phoenix connectors is that you don't need a
soldring iron or pins and crimp tools to terminate wires, just a small
screwdriver.
That's not nice. It's just cheap. At Cambridge Instruments the argument
for going over to crimp connectors was that you found a lot less duff
connections when you were putting product through final test.
The parts and tools were more expensive, but fault-finding and fault
correction were expensive enough to tip the balance.
<snip>
Crimps can also be dud, and they can be difficult to find.
Decades ago, we had a Data Products line printer which occasionally
went beserk with paper feed, throwing half a box of chain forms at
speed through the printer. The paper feed was a DC servo built by
the book, with acceleration and deceleration controls done with suitable >integrators. After a long hunt, it was seen that the occasional insanity
came from a missing tachogenerator signal. The culprit was one of the
tacho signal wires crimped partially on top of the insulation.
On 16/02/2025 3:17 am, john larkin wrote:
On Sat, 15 Feb 2025 14:13:20 +0000, piglet <erichpwagner@hotmail.com>
wrote:
On 15/02/2025 12:20 am, Phil Hobbs wrote:
piglet <erichpwagner@hotmail.com> wrote:
john larkin <JL@gct.com> wrote:
Does anyone have a favorite high-current PCB connector?
I'd like to get 20 wires into a pluggable connector, to go on a
module
like this:
https://highlandtechnology.com/Product/P948
We need at least 7 amps per contact.
That litle green Phoenix connector is cool. Wires screw into it
without tooling, and it's easy to mate and unmate. But it's only 5 >>>>>> pins.
I was planning to use four of them, with two on a baby board, but
that
idea wasn't popular.
Phoenix do make 20 pin version (as two rows of ten) with 10 amp
per pin on
200 mil pitch.
Do they actually make them m, as in somebody has them for sale, or
are they
just listed in a catalogue?
Connector catalogs are full of things that they would love to make
for you
if you want to order 100,000 pieces and can wait six months.
Cheers
Phil Hobbs
But JL's customers are aerospace so will be used to exotic, hard to find >>> connectors - would they respect him for using an easily buyable
connector :)
piglet
The nice thing about the Phoenix connectors is that you don't need a
soldring iron or pins and crimp tools to terminate wires, just a small
screwdriver.
That's not nice. It's just cheap. At Cambridge Instruments the argument
for going over to crimp connectors was that you found a lot less duff connections when you were putting product through final test.
The parts and tools were more expensive, but fault-finding and fault correction were expensive enough to tip the balance.
<snip>
On 16.2.2025 7.11, Bill Sloman wrote:
On 16/02/2025 3:17 am, john larkin wrote:
On Sat, 15 Feb 2025 14:13:20 +0000, piglet <erichpwagner@hotmail.com>
wrote:
On 15/02/2025 12:20 am, Phil Hobbs wrote:
piglet <erichpwagner@hotmail.com> wrote:
john larkin <JL@gct.com> wrote:
Does anyone have a favorite high-current PCB connector?
I'd like to get 20 wires into a pluggable connector, to go on a
module
like this:
https://highlandtechnology.com/Product/P948
We need at least 7 amps per contact.
That litle green Phoenix connector is cool. Wires screw into it
without tooling, and it's easy to mate and unmate. But it's only 5 >>>>>>> pins.
I was planning to use four of them, with two on a baby board, but >>>>>>> that
idea wasn't popular.
Phoenix do make 20 pin version (as two rows of ten) with 10 amp
per pin on
200 mil pitch.
Do they actually make them m, as in somebody has them for sale, or
are they
just listed in a catalogue?
Connector catalogs are full of things that they would love to make
for you
if you want to order 100,000 pieces and can wait six months.
Cheers
Phil Hobbs
But JL's customers are aerospace so will be used to exotic, hard to find >>>> connectors - would they respect him for using an easily buyable
connector :)
piglet
The nice thing about the Phoenix connectors is that you don't need a
soldring iron or pins and crimp tools to terminate wires, just a small
screwdriver.
That's not nice. It's just cheap. At Cambridge Instruments the argument
for going over to crimp connectors was that you found a lot less duff
connections when you were putting product through final test.
The parts and tools were more expensive, but fault-finding and fault
correction were expensive enough to tip the balance.
<snip>
Crimps can also be dud, and they can be difficult to find.
Decades ago, we had a Data Products line printer which occasionally
went beserk with paper feed, throwing half a box of chain forms at
speed through the printer. The paper feed was a DC servo built by
the book, with acceleration and deceleration controls done with suitable >integrators. After a long hunt, it was seen that the occasional insanity
came from a missing tachogenerator signal. The culprit was one of the
tacho signal wires crimped partially on top of the insulation.
On Sun, 16 Feb 2025 19:32:56 +0200, Tauno Voipio <tauno.voipio@notused.fi.invalid> wrote:
On 16.2.2025 7.11, Bill Sloman wrote:
On 16/02/2025 3:17 am, john larkin wrote:
On Sat, 15 Feb 2025 14:13:20 +0000, piglet <erichpwagner@hotmail.com>
wrote:
On 15/02/2025 12:20 am, Phil Hobbs wrote:
piglet <erichpwagner@hotmail.com> wrote:
john larkin <JL@gct.com> wrote:
Does anyone have a favorite high-current PCB connector?
I'd like to get 20 wires into a pluggable connector, to go on a >>>>>>>> module
like this:
https://highlandtechnology.com/Product/P948
We need at least 7 amps per contact.
That litle green Phoenix connector is cool. Wires screw into it >>>>>>>> without tooling, and it's easy to mate and unmate. But it's only 5 >>>>>>>> pins.
I was planning to use four of them, with two on a baby board, but >>>>>>>> that
idea wasn't popular.
Phoenixÿ do make 20 pin version (as two rows of ten) with 10 amp >>>>>>> per pin on
200 mil pitch.
Do they actually make them m, as in somebody has them for sale, or >>>>>> are they
just listed in a catalogue?
Connector catalogs are full of things that they would love to make >>>>>> for you
if you want to order 100,000 pieces and can wait six months.
Cheers
Phil Hobbs
But JL's customers are aerospace so will be used to exotic, hard to find >>>>> connectors - would they respect him for using an easily buyable
connector :)
piglet
The nice thing about the Phoenix connectors is that you don't need a
soldring iron or pins and crimp tools to terminate wires, just a small >>>> screwdriver.
That's not nice. It's just cheap. At Cambridge Instruments the argument
for going over to crimp connectors was that you found a lot less duff
connections when you were putting product through final test.
The parts and tools were more expensive, but fault-finding and fault
correction were expensive enough to tip the balance.
<snip>
Crimps can also be dud, and they can be difficult to find.
Decades ago, we had a Data Products line printer which occasionally
went beserk with paper feed, throwing half a box of chain forms at
speed through the printer. The paper feed was a DC servo built by
the book, with acceleration and deceleration controls done with suitable
integrators. After a long hunt, it was seen that the occasional insanity
came from a missing tachogenerator signal. The culprit was one of the
tacho signal wires crimped partially on top of the insulation.
I had one of those problems in the 1970s when I lived in Baltimore,
but it was the pickup wires from the electromagnetic phono cartridge
on a Dual turntable that caused trouble. Took me a year to figure
out.
The phono pickup wires were very small and flexible, and they were
attached to the cartridge by a pair of spring clips crimped to the
wires. What they meant by crimped was that they stripped the soft PVC insulation off for 1/8", folded the wire strands back over the
insulation, and crimped to that. Almost worked.
But after a few years in the industrial atmosphere of Baltimore (we
still had a real steel mill!), a little bit of corrosion formed, and
the wire to ferrule contact became unreliable, and one channel or the
other would go silent, probably due to mechanical motion as one played
a record.
How does one fix this? Replacement parts will all have the same
problem, and it's too small and delicate to do much, and soldering
would yield fatigue breaks.
Welding is the answer! Took the cartridge off so all that's left on
the turntable is wire and mechanism, and no fragile electronics.
Connected each wire from clip to phono connector in series with a
100-watt 120-volt incandescent bulb and connected this to the 120-volt
power line. The 120-volt 10-amp startup surge punched through the
corrosion and welded wire to crimp-terminal barrel. The thin wire had
no problem carrying the 1-amp steady-state current thereafter. Did it
a few times per wire, just to be sure. Problem solved, never to
return.
Joe Gwinn
Does anyone have a favorite high-current PCB connector?
Does anyone have a favorite high-current PCB connector?
I'd like to get 20 wires into a pluggable connector, to go on a module
like this:
https://highlandtechnology.com/Product/P948
We need at least 7 amps per contact.
That litle green Phoenix connector is cool. Wires screw into it
without tooling, and it's easy to mate and unmate. But it's only 5
pins.
I was planning to use four of them, with two on a baby board, but that
idea wasn't popular.
Does anyone have a favorite high-current PCB connector?
I'd like to get 20 wires into a pluggable connector, to go on a module
like this:
https://highlandtechnology.com/Product/P948
We need at least 7 amps per contact.
That litle green Phoenix connector is cool. Wires screw into it
without tooling, and it's easy to mate and unmate. But it's only 5
pins.
I was planning to use four of them, with two on a baby board, but that
idea wasn't popular.
On 2/14/25 17:37, john larkin wrote:
Does anyone have a favorite high-current PCB connector?
I'd like to get 20 wires into a pluggable connector, to go on a module
like this:
https://highlandtechnology.com/Product/P948
We need at least 7 amps per contact.
That litle green Phoenix connector is cool. Wires screw into it
without tooling, and it's easy to mate and unmate. But it's only 5
pins.
I was planning to use four of them, with two on a baby board, but that
idea wasn't popular.
https://www.mouser.ca/ProductDetail/Phoenix-Contact/1842979?qs=aYsvlkyO7qM1vWO95kklEQ%3D%3D
On Sun, 23 Feb 2025 14:02:30 +0100, Lasse Langwadt <llc@fonz.dk>
wrote:
On 2/14/25 17:37, john larkin wrote:
Does anyone have a favorite high-current PCB connector?
I'd like to get 20 wires into a pluggable connector, to go on a module
like this:
https://highlandtechnology.com/Product/P948
We need at least 7 amps per contact.
That litle green Phoenix connector is cool. Wires screw into it
without tooling, and it's easy to mate and unmate. But it's only 5
pins.
I was planning to use four of them, with two on a baby board, but that
idea wasn't popular.
https://www.mouser.ca/ProductDetail/Phoenix-Contact/1842979?qs=aYsvlkyO7qM1vWO95kklEQ%3D%3D
The problem with those connectorfs, and the Weidmuller equivalents, is
that humans aren't strong enough to un-mate them. And the spring-push
wire clamps are flakey. And that they have no no opinions about pin numbering.
On 2/23/25 16:45, john larkin wrote:
On Sun, 23 Feb 2025 14:02:30 +0100, Lasse Langwadt <llc@fonz.dk>
wrote:
On 2/14/25 17:37, john larkin wrote:
Does anyone have a favorite high-current PCB connector?
I'd like to get 20 wires into a pluggable connector, to go on a module >>>> like this:
https://highlandtechnology.com/Product/P948
We need at least 7 amps per contact.
That litle green Phoenix connector is cool. Wires screw into it
without tooling, and it's easy to mate and unmate. But it's only 5
pins.
I was planning to use four of them, with two on a baby board, but that >>>> idea wasn't popular.
https://www.mouser.ca/ProductDetail/Phoenix-Contact/1842979?qs=aYsvlkyO7qM1vWO95kklEQ%3D%3D
The problem with those connectorfs, and the Weidmuller equivalents, is
that humans aren't strong enough to un-mate them. And the spring-push
wire clamps are flakey. And that they have no no opinions about pin
numbering.
We've used a lot of those plugable connectors, never seemed like a
problem to unmate them
doesn't have to be spring clamps, >https://www.digikey.dk/da/products/detail/phoenix-contact/1803633/260535
if there no number you decide what to call the pins
On Sun, 23 Feb 2025 20:03:46 +0100, Lasse Langwadt <llc@fonz.dk>
wrote:
On 2/23/25 16:45, john larkin wrote:
On Sun, 23 Feb 2025 14:02:30 +0100, Lasse Langwadt <llc@fonz.dk>
wrote:
On 2/14/25 17:37, john larkin wrote:
Does anyone have a favorite high-current PCB connector?
I'd like to get 20 wires into a pluggable connector, to go on a module >>>>> like this:
https://highlandtechnology.com/Product/P948
We need at least 7 amps per contact.
That litle green Phoenix connector is cool. Wires screw into it
without tooling, and it's easy to mate and unmate. But it's only 5
pins.
I was planning to use four of them, with two on a baby board, but that >>>>> idea wasn't popular.
https://www.mouser.ca/ProductDetail/Phoenix-Contact/1842979?qs=aYsvlkyO7qM1vWO95kklEQ%3D%3D
The problem with those connectorfs, and the Weidmuller equivalents, is
that humans aren't strong enough to un-mate them. And the spring-push
wire clamps are flakey. And that they have no no opinions about pin
numbering.
We've used a lot of those plugable connectors, never seemed like a
problem to unmate them
We used a similar part, and it was very hard to un-mate. We use the
version with the cam now, but only a few of their connectors have the
un-mate cam.
https://www.digikey.com/en/products/detail/phoenix-contact/1808912/3439844
doesn't have to be spring clamps,
https://www.digikey.dk/da/products/detail/phoenix-contact/1803633/260535
if there no number you decide what to call the pins
And since the connectors are unmarked, we have to explain the pin
numbering to our customers, with pictures in manuals.
On 2/23/25 20:25, john larkin wrote:
On Sun, 23 Feb 2025 20:03:46 +0100, Lasse Langwadt <llc@fonz.dk>
wrote:
On 2/23/25 16:45, john larkin wrote:
On Sun, 23 Feb 2025 14:02:30 +0100, Lasse Langwadt <llc@fonz.dk>
wrote:
On 2/14/25 17:37, john larkin wrote:
Does anyone have a favorite high-current PCB connector?
I'd like to get 20 wires into a pluggable connector, to go on a module >>>>>> like this:
https://highlandtechnology.com/Product/P948
We need at least 7 amps per contact.
That litle green Phoenix connector is cool. Wires screw into it
without tooling, and it's easy to mate and unmate. But it's only 5 >>>>>> pins.
I was planning to use four of them, with two on a baby board, but that >>>>>> idea wasn't popular.
https://www.mouser.ca/ProductDetail/Phoenix-Contact/1842979?qs=aYsvlkyO7qM1vWO95kklEQ%3D%3D
The problem with those connectorfs, and the Weidmuller equivalents, is >>>> that humans aren't strong enough to un-mate them. And the spring-push
wire clamps are flakey. And that they have no no opinions about pin
numbering.
We've used a lot of those plugable connectors, never seemed like a
problem to unmate them
We used a similar part, and it was very hard to un-mate. We use the
version with the cam now, but only a few of their connectors have the
un-mate cam.
https://www.digikey.com/en/products/detail/phoenix-contact/1808912/3439844 >>
doesn't have to be spring clamps,
https://www.digikey.dk/da/products/detail/phoenix-contact/1803633/260535 >>>
if there no number you decide what to call the pins
And since the connectors are unmarked, we have to explain the pin
numbering to our customers, with pictures in manuals.
if it had numbers you'd still need to explain what goes to what number,
or just have the names/numbers on the box next to each pin
On Sun, 23 Feb 2025 20:03:46 +0100, Lasse Langwadt <llc@fonz.dk>
wrote:
On 2/23/25 16:45, john larkin wrote:
On Sun, 23 Feb 2025 14:02:30 +0100, Lasse Langwadt <llc@fonz.dk>
wrote:
On 2/14/25 17:37, john larkin wrote:
Does anyone have a favorite high-current PCB connector?
I'd like to get 20 wires into a pluggable connector, to go on a module >>>> like this:
https://highlandtechnology.com/Product/P948
We need at least 7 amps per contact.
That litle green Phoenix connector is cool. Wires screw into it
without tooling, and it's easy to mate and unmate. But it's only 5
pins.
I was planning to use four of them, with two on a baby board, but that >>>> idea wasn't popular.
https://www.mouser.ca/ProductDetail/Phoenix-Contact/1842979?qs=aYsvlkyO7qM1vWO95kklEQ%3D%3D
The problem with those connectorfs, and the Weidmuller equivalents, is
that humans aren't strong enough to un-mate them. And the spring-push
wire clamps are flakey. And that they have no no opinions about pin
numbering.
We've used a lot of those plugable connectors, never seemed like a
problem to unmate them
We used a similar part, and it was very hard to un-mate. We use the
version with the cam now, but only a few of their connectors have the
un-mate cam.
https://www.digikey.com/en/products/detail/phoenix-contact/1808912/3439844
doesn't have to be spring clamps, >https://www.digikey.dk/da/products/detail/phoenix-contact/1803633/260535
if there no number you decide what to call the pins
And since the connectors are unmarked, we have to explain the pin
numbering to our customers, with pictures in manuals.
On Sun Feb 23 11:25:16 2025 john larkin wrote:Oh, you can put bare stranded wire in them but it's much more reliable to crimp a ferrule on each wire first. That way on high current wires (cabinet power was 10-13A on 12 ga stranded) you don't miss strands, and with tiny wires (some sensor leads
On Sun, 23 Feb 2025 20:03:46 +0100, Lasse Langwadt <llc@fonz.dk>
wrote:
On 2/23/25 16:45, john larkin wrote:
On Sun, 23 Feb 2025 14:02:30 +0100, Lasse Langwadt <llc@fonz.dk>
wrote:
On 2/14/25 17:37, john larkin wrote:
Does anyone have a favorite high-current PCB connector?
I'd like to get 20 wires into a pluggable connector, to go on a module >> >>>> like this:
https://highlandtechnology.com/Product/P948
We need at least 7 amps per contact.
That litle green Phoenix connector is cool. Wires screw into it
without tooling, and it's easy to mate and unmate. But it's only 5
pins.
I was planning to use four of them, with two on a baby board, but that >> >>>> idea wasn't popular.
https://www.mouser.ca/ProductDetail/Phoenix-Contact/1842979?qs=aYsvlkyO7qM1vWO95kklEQ%3D%3D
The problem with those connectorfs, and the Weidmuller equivalents, is
that humans aren't strong enough to un-mate them. And the spring-push
wire clamps are flakey. And that they have no no opinions about pin
numbering.
We've used a lot of those plugable connectors, never seemed like a
problem to unmate them
We used a similar part, and it was very hard to un-mate. We use the
version with the cam now, but only a few of their connectors have the
un-mate cam.
https://www.digikey.com/en/products/detail/phoenix-contact/1808912/3439844 >>
doesn't have to be spring clamps,
https://www.digikey.dk/da/products/detail/phoenix-contact/1803633/260535
if there no number you decide what to call the pins
And since the connectors are unmarked, we have to explain the pin
numbering to our customers, with pictures in manuals.
Used maybe 2-4,000/year of those at my last job. Our standard was to hold the cable so the wires were vertical and the screws that held the wires were towards you, like you were about to plug it in on a vertical pcb (as ours were). Leftmost pin is #1.
Regards,
Carl
On Sun, 23 Feb 2025 21:00:21 +0100, Lasse Langwadt <llc@fonz.dk>
wrote:
On 2/23/25 20:25, john larkin wrote:
On Sun, 23 Feb 2025 20:03:46 +0100, Lasse Langwadt <llc@fonz.dk>
wrote:
On 2/23/25 16:45, john larkin wrote:
On Sun, 23 Feb 2025 14:02:30 +0100, Lasse Langwadt <llc@fonz.dk>
wrote:
On 2/14/25 17:37, john larkin wrote:
Does anyone have a favorite high-current PCB connector?
I'd like to get 20 wires into a pluggable connector, to go on a module >>>>>>> like this:
https://highlandtechnology.com/Product/P948
We need at least 7 amps per contact.
That litle green Phoenix connector is cool. Wires screw into it
without tooling, and it's easy to mate and unmate. But it's only 5 >>>>>>> pins.
I was planning to use four of them, with two on a baby board, but that >>>>>>> idea wasn't popular.
https://www.mouser.ca/ProductDetail/Phoenix-Contact/1842979?qs=aYsvlkyO7qM1vWO95kklEQ%3D%3D
The problem with those connectorfs, and the Weidmuller equivalents, is >>>>> that humans aren't strong enough to un-mate them. And the spring-push >>>>> wire clamps are flakey. And that they have no no opinions about pin
numbering.
We've used a lot of those plugable connectors, never seemed like a
problem to unmate them
We used a similar part, and it was very hard to un-mate. We use the
version with the cam now, but only a few of their connectors have the
un-mate cam.
https://www.digikey.com/en/products/detail/phoenix-contact/1808912/3439844 >>>
doesn't have to be spring clamps,
https://www.digikey.dk/da/products/detail/phoenix-contact/1803633/260535 >>>>
if there no number you decide what to call the pins
And since the connectors are unmarked, we have to explain the pin
numbering to our customers, with pictures in manuals.
if it had numbers you'd still need to explain what goes to what number,
or just have the names/numbers on the box next to each pin
Imagine if D25 or USB connectors had random pin numbers on various
products.
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