ASRock seems to be the champion of motherboards with gimmicks. This
mini-ITX desktop PC motherboard:
<https://www.asrock.com/mb/Intel/H610M-ITXeDP/index.asp>
has an eDP port for connecting a laptop-like display to the iGPU,
ostensibily for mounting a side panel display _inside_ the case to show >through the window on the case, as the cool gamer kids do.
This associated product seemed to be on the market for 5 minutes but
seems to be discontinued, or never actually fully went to market in the
first place:
<https://www.asrock.com/mb/spec/product.asp?Model=13.3%E2%80%9D%20Side%20Panel%20Kit>
The port on the motherboard is 40 pin but accepts an 88441-style male
plug, not directly compatible with common eDP laptop panels I don't
think. And comparing the pinout in the mobo user manual they've used a >variant this standard 40 pin eDP pinout:
<https://cdn.hackaday.io/images//8270581660348878152.png>
but the pin assignment is reversed top-to-bottom. Also as I understand
it eDP doesn't have any standardized way of controlling backlight
brightness there are a couple ways of doing it and one would have to
probe the motherboard port to find out which method is being used it and
then either find a compatible display or implement one's own backlight >control hardware.
That is to say I just want to make sure they really worked to make this
port useless without their bespoke hardware so I don't have to waste any
more time thinking about interesting things one could do with an
internal eDP port if they hadn't done that, thanks!
On Mon, 17 Mar 2025 16:45:30 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:
ASRock seems to be the champion of motherboards with gimmicks. This
mini-ITX desktop PC motherboard:
<https://www.asrock.com/mb/Intel/H610M-ITXeDP/index.asp>
has an eDP port for connecting a laptop-like display to the iGPU,
ostensibily for mounting a side panel display _inside_ the case to show
through the window on the case, as the cool gamer kids do.
This associated product seemed to be on the market for 5 minutes but
seems to be discontinued, or never actually fully went to market in the
first place:
<https://www.asrock.com/mb/spec/product.asp?Model=13.3%E2%80%9D%20Side%20Panel%20Kit>
The port on the motherboard is 40 pin but accepts an 88441-style male
plug, not directly compatible with common eDP laptop panels I don't
think. And comparing the pinout in the mobo user manual they've used a
variant this standard 40 pin eDP pinout:
<https://cdn.hackaday.io/images//8270581660348878152.png>
but the pin assignment is reversed top-to-bottom. Also as I understand
it eDP doesn't have any standardized way of controlling backlight
brightness there are a couple ways of doing it and one would have to
probe the motherboard port to find out which method is being used it and
then either find a compatible display or implement one's own backlight
control hardware.
That is to say I just want to make sure they really worked to make this
port useless without their bespoke hardware so I don't have to waste any
more time thinking about interesting things one could do with an
internal eDP port if they hadn't done that, thanks!
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https://www.amazon.com/MUSETEX-Pre-Installed-Type-C-Computer-Tempered/dp/B0C9H87GPK/ref=asc_df_B0C9H87GPK?mcid=75c84d27b864314eab874d561a626861&hvocijid=4571331019138210395-B0C9H87GPK-&hvexpln=73&tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=721245378154&hvpos=&
Why not?
ASRock seems to be the champion of motherboards with gimmicks. This mini-ITX desktop PC motherboard:
<https://www.asrock.com/mb/Intel/H610M-ITXeDP/index.asp>
has an eDP port for connecting a laptop-like display to the iGPU, ostensibily for mounting a side panel display _inside_ the case to show through the window
on the case, as the cool gamer kids do.
This associated product seemed to be on the market for 5 minutes but seems to be discontinued, or never actually fully went to market in the first place:
<https://www.asrock.com/mb/spec/product.asp?Model=13.3%E2%80%9D%20Side%20Panel%20Kit>
The port on the motherboard is 40 pin but accepts an 88441-style male plug, not
directly compatible with common eDP laptop panels I don't think. And comparing
the pinout in the mobo user manual they've used a variant this standard 40 pin
eDP pinout:
<https://cdn.hackaday.io/images//8270581660348878152.png>
but the pin assignment is reversed top-to-bottom. Also as I understand it eDP doesn't have any standardized way of controlling backlight brightness there are
a couple ways of doing it and one would have to probe the motherboard port to find out which method is being used it and then either find a compatible display or implement one's own backlight control hardware.
That is to say I just want to make sure they really worked to make this port useless without their bespoke hardware so I don't have to waste any more time thinking about interesting things one could do with an internal eDP port if they hadn't done that, thanks!
On 3/17/2025 1:45 PM, bitrex wrote:
ASRock seems to be the champion of motherboards with gimmicks. This
mini-ITX desktop PC motherboard:
<https://www.asrock.com/mb/Intel/H610M-ITXeDP/index.asp>
has an eDP port for connecting a laptop-like display to the iGPU,
ostensibily for mounting a side panel display _inside_ the case to
show through the window on the case, as the cool gamer kids do.
What would be the purpose of such an *extra* display? Do you envision
it as a second monitor that requires the PC to be located at eye level (instead of beneath the work-surface)? Does that save anything
over just plugging a second EXTERNAL monitor into a second video
port (prettymuch commonplace, nowadays)
If you're just looking for a nominal "information display", then something that hangs off a ubiquitous internal USB or serial port seems a safer
bet (I have a little "module" that I use for such a purpose -- mainly to
tell me why a boot goes awry)
On 3/18/2025 12:33 AM, Don Y wrote:
On 3/17/2025 1:45 PM, bitrex wrote:
ASRock seems to be the champion of motherboards with gimmicks. This mini-ITX
desktop PC motherboard:
<https://www.asrock.com/mb/Intel/H610M-ITXeDP/index.asp>
has an eDP port for connecting a laptop-like display to the iGPU,
ostensibily for mounting a side panel display _inside_ the case to show
through the window on the case, as the cool gamer kids do.
What would be the purpose of such an *extra* display? Do you envision
it as a second monitor that requires the PC to be located at eye level
(instead of beneath the work-surface)? Does that save anything
over just plugging a second EXTERNAL monitor into a second video
port (prettymuch commonplace, nowadays)
If you're just looking for a nominal "information display", then something >> that hangs off a ubiquitous internal USB or serial port seems a safer
bet (I have a little "module" that I use for such a purpose -- mainly to
tell me why a boot goes awry)
Right. I usually buy ASus, I already regret my decision with this one. Independent of its quirky hardware layout its got some BIOS quirks that are less fun
[As I said, I just use a text-only module to give me the most recent
text on the serial port. The display I use is tiny -- like 2 lines
of 16. But, I've modified it so I can scroll left/right, up/down
AND have modified the boot messages so there is less of a NEED to do
those things; often the messages just remind me that I've left
a thumb drive plugged in that isn't bootable, etc.]
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