• nice layout

    From john larkin @21:1/5 to All on Fri Mar 21 19:07:27 2025
    https://regmedia.co.uk/2023/03/09/dutch_shutterstock.jpg?x=954&y=477&crop=1

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  • From bitrex@21:1/5 to john larkin on Sat Mar 22 00:20:49 2025
    On 3/21/2025 10:07 PM, john larkin wrote:

    https://regmedia.co.uk/2023/03/09/dutch_shutterstock.jpg?x=954&y=477&crop=1



    I'm skeptical of the utility of a 3 and 1 port ring coupler

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  • From Phil Hobbs@21:1/5 to All on Sat Mar 22 15:13:25 2025
    john larkin <jlArbor.com> wrote:

    https://regmedia.co.uk/2023/03/09/dutch_shutterstock.jpg?x=954&y=477&crop=1



    ;)

    Of course with a square package and no pin 1 mark, it’s impossible to tell whether the glorious achievement is Dutch or French.

    Of course the EU will convene another summit and fail to decide, as usual.

    Cheers

    Phil Hobbs

    --
    Dr Philip C D Hobbs Principal Consultant
    ElectroOptical Innovations LLC / Hobbs ElectroOptics Optics,
    Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics

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  • From john larkin @21:1/5 to pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical. on Sat Mar 22 09:53:44 2025
    On Sat, 22 Mar 2025 15:13:25 -0000 (UTC), Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:

    john larkin <jlArbor.com> wrote:

    https://regmedia.co.uk/2023/03/09/dutch_shutterstock.jpg?x=954&y=477&crop=1 >>


    ;)

    Of course with a square package and no pin 1 mark, its impossible to tell >whether the glorious achievement is Dutch or French.

    Of course the EU will convene another summit and fail to decide, as usual.

    Cheers

    Phil Hobbs

    There is a minor industry of artists who know nothing about
    electronics but create and sell stock images of printed circuit
    boards.

    https://www.istockphoto.com/photos/circuit-board

    It's like the people who compose little snippets of pseudo-music that
    are used to add annoyances to moronic radio programs. I think they get something like $20 for one of those.

    I need more coffee.

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  • From ehsjr@21:1/5 to john larkin on Sat Mar 22 13:16:56 2025
    On 3/22/2025 12:53 PM, john larkin wrote:
    On Sat, 22 Mar 2025 15:13:25 -0000 (UTC), Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:

    john larkin <jlArbor.com> wrote:

    https://regmedia.co.uk/2023/03/09/dutch_shutterstock.jpg?x=954&y=477&crop=1 >>>


    ;)

    Of course with a square package and no pin 1 mark, it’s impossible to tell >> whether the glorious achievement is Dutch or French.

    Of course the EU will convene another summit and fail to decide, as usual. >>
    Cheers

    Phil Hobbs

    There is a minor industry of artists who know nothing about
    electronics but create and sell stock images of printed circuit
    boards.

    https://www.istockphoto.com/photos/circuit-board

    It's like the people who compose little snippets of pseudo-music that
    are used to add annoyances to moronic radio programs. I think they get something like $20 for one of those.

    I need more coffee.

    And chocolate.
    Ed

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  • From Jeroen Belleman@21:1/5 to Phil Hobbs on Sat Mar 22 19:15:43 2025
    On 3/22/25 16:13, Phil Hobbs wrote:
    john larkin <jlArbor.com> wrote:

    https://regmedia.co.uk/2023/03/09/dutch_shutterstock.jpg?x=954&y=477&crop=1 >>


    ;)

    Of course with a square package and no pin 1 mark, it’s impossible to tell whether the glorious achievement is Dutch or French.

    Of course the EU will convene another summit and fail to decide, as usual.

    Cheers

    Phil Hobbs


    I sometimes think that huge, irresolute governments are good.
    They can't decide on new regulations to bother and impair us.

    Jeroen Belleman

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  • From john larkin @21:1/5 to jeroen@nospam.please on Sat Mar 22 15:28:54 2025
    On Sat, 22 Mar 2025 19:15:43 +0100, Jeroen Belleman
    <jeroen@nospam.please> wrote:

    On 3/22/25 16:13, Phil Hobbs wrote:
    john larkin <jlArbor.com> wrote:

    https://regmedia.co.uk/2023/03/09/dutch_shutterstock.jpg?x=954&y=477&crop=1 >>>


    ;)

    Of course with a square package and no pin 1 mark, its impossible to tell >> whether the glorious achievement is Dutch or French.

    Of course the EU will convene another summit and fail to decide, as usual. >>
    Cheers

    Phil Hobbs


    I sometimes think that huge, irresolute governments are good.
    They can't decide on new regulations to bother and impair us.

    Jeroen Belleman

    Better yet, they can't enforce them.

    Some small portion of the population is actually productive. We make
    the food and power and roads and buildings for the rest.

    Most government employees are useless or worse. But if we fire them,
    they will just join the existing mob of useless drones, so maybe not
    much will change.

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  • From john larkin @21:1/5 to bitrex on Sat Mar 22 18:48:03 2025
    On Sat, 22 Mar 2025 21:35:01 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

    On 3/22/2025 6:28 PM, john larkin wrote:
    On Sat, 22 Mar 2025 19:15:43 +0100, Jeroen Belleman
    <jeroen@nospam.please> wrote:

    On 3/22/25 16:13, Phil Hobbs wrote:
    john larkin <jlArbor.com> wrote:

    https://regmedia.co.uk/2023/03/09/dutch_shutterstock.jpg?x=954&y=477&crop=1



    ;)

    Of course with a square package and no pin 1 mark, its impossible to tell >>>> whether the glorious achievement is Dutch or French.

    Of course the EU will convene another summit and fail to decide, as usual. >>>>
    Cheers

    Phil Hobbs


    I sometimes think that huge, irresolute governments are good.
    They can't decide on new regulations to bother and impair us.

    Jeroen Belleman

    Better yet, they can't enforce them.

    Some small portion of the population is actually productive. We make
    the food and power and roads and buildings for the rest.

    Most government employees are useless or worse. But if we fire them,
    they will just join the existing mob of useless drones, so maybe not
    much will change.



    People learned that if you just shout real loud into the void "Okay I'm >pretty sure Ohms law says ahh...let's see here. Watts times amps equals >volts" some engineer will appear within 5 seconds to correct them like
    "No you dumb idiot!" and then there's a good chance he'll offer to do
    their job for them, too.

    Makes sense.

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  • From bitrex@21:1/5 to john larkin on Sat Mar 22 21:35:01 2025
    On 3/22/2025 6:28 PM, john larkin wrote:
    On Sat, 22 Mar 2025 19:15:43 +0100, Jeroen Belleman
    <jeroen@nospam.please> wrote:

    On 3/22/25 16:13, Phil Hobbs wrote:
    john larkin <jlArbor.com> wrote:

    https://regmedia.co.uk/2023/03/09/dutch_shutterstock.jpg?x=954&y=477&crop=1



    ;)

    Of course with a square package and no pin 1 mark, it’s impossible to tell
    whether the glorious achievement is Dutch or French.

    Of course the EU will convene another summit and fail to decide, as usual. >>>
    Cheers

    Phil Hobbs


    I sometimes think that huge, irresolute governments are good.
    They can't decide on new regulations to bother and impair us.

    Jeroen Belleman

    Better yet, they can't enforce them.

    Some small portion of the population is actually productive. We make
    the food and power and roads and buildings for the rest.

    Most government employees are useless or worse. But if we fire them,
    they will just join the existing mob of useless drones, so maybe not
    much will change.



    People learned that if you just shout real loud into the void "Okay I'm
    pretty sure Ohms law says ahh...let's see here. Watts times amps equals
    volts" some engineer will appear within 5 seconds to correct them like
    "No you dumb idiot!" and then there's a good chance he'll offer to do
    their job for them, too.

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  • From Bill Sloman@21:1/5 to john larkin on Sun Mar 23 13:48:52 2025
    On 23/03/2025 9:28 am, john larkin wrote:
    On Sat, 22 Mar 2025 19:15:43 +0100, Jeroen Belleman
    <jeroen@nospam.please> wrote:

    On 3/22/25 16:13, Phil Hobbs wrote:
    john larkin <jlArbor.com> wrote:

    https://regmedia.co.uk/2023/03/09/dutch_shutterstock.jpg?x=954&y=477&crop=1



    ;)

    Of course with a square package and no pin 1 mark, it’s impossible to tell
    whether the glorious achievement is Dutch or French.

    Of course the EU will convene another summit and fail to decide, as usual. >>>
    Cheers

    Phil Hobbs


    I sometimes think that huge, irresolute governments are good.
    They can't decide on new regulations to bother and impair us.

    Jeroen Belleman

    Better yet, they can't enforce them.

    Some small portion of the population is actually productive. We make
    the food and power and roads and buildings for the rest.

    John Larkin doesn't understand much, so it looks that way to him.

    Most government employees are useless or worse.

    If you don't understand what they are doing. it can look that way.

    The anti-government propaganda which has formed John Larkin's thinking
    on the subject is paid for by US industry, which wants to be free make
    as much money as possible by organising itself into cartels and
    over-charging its customers.

    https://www.bloomsbury.com/au/big-myth-9781635573572/

    The same author's also wrote

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merchants_of_Doubt

    which is about the climate change denial propaganda machine which has
    formed John Larkin's opinions about climate change.

    But if we fire them, they will just join the existing mob of useless drones, so maybe not much will change.

    If it did John Larkin would only notice if his favourite propaganda
    sources told him that it had. The US education system does seem to churn
    out a lot of gullible suckers, and Trump does seem to want to make sure
    that it doesn't get improved by any Federal government intervention.

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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  • From Lasse Langwadt@21:1/5 to bitrex on Sun Mar 23 15:52:58 2025
    On 3/23/25 02:35, bitrex wrote:
    On 3/22/2025 6:28 PM, john larkin wrote:
    On Sat, 22 Mar 2025 19:15:43 +0100, Jeroen Belleman
    <jeroen@nospam.please> wrote:

    On 3/22/25 16:13, Phil Hobbs wrote:
    john larkin <jlArbor.com> wrote:

    https://regmedia.co.uk/2023/03/09/dutch_shutterstock.jpg?x=954&y=477&crop=1



    ;)

    Of course with a square package and no pin 1 mark, it’s impossible
    to tell
    whether the glorious achievement is Dutch or French.

    Of course the EU will convene another summit and fail to decide, as
    usual.

    Cheers

    Phil Hobbs


    I sometimes think that huge, irresolute governments are good.
    They can't decide on new regulations to bother and impair us.

    Jeroen Belleman

    Better yet, they can't enforce them.

    Some small portion of the population is actually productive. We make
    the food and power and roads and buildings for the rest.

    Most government employees are useless or worse. But if we fire them,
    they will just join the existing mob of useless drones, so maybe not
    much will change.



    People learned that if you just shout real loud into the void "Okay I'm pretty sure Ohms law says ahh...let's see here. Watts times amps equals volts" some engineer will appear within 5 seconds to correct them like
    "No you dumb idiot!" and then there's a good chance he'll offer to do
    their job for them, too.


    https://xkcd.com/386/
    https://xkcd.com/2051/

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  • From bitrex@21:1/5 to Bill Sloman on Sun Mar 23 13:19:27 2025
    On 3/22/2025 10:48 PM, Bill Sloman wrote:
    On 23/03/2025 9:28 am, john larkin wrote:
    On Sat, 22 Mar 2025 19:15:43 +0100, Jeroen Belleman
    <jeroen@nospam.please> wrote:

    On 3/22/25 16:13, Phil Hobbs wrote:
    john larkin <jlArbor.com> wrote:

    https://regmedia.co.uk/2023/03/09/dutch_shutterstock.jpg?
    x=954&y=477&crop=1



    ;)

    Of course with a square package and no pin 1 mark, it’s impossible
    to tell
    whether the glorious achievement is Dutch or French.

    Of course the EU will convene another summit and fail to decide, as
    usual.

    Cheers

    Phil Hobbs


    I sometimes think that huge, irresolute governments are good.
    They can't decide on new regulations to bother and impair us.

    Jeroen Belleman

    Better yet, they can't enforce them.

    Some small portion of the population is actually productive. We make
    the food and power and roads and buildings for the rest.

    John Larkin doesn't understand much, so it looks that way to him.

    Most government employees are useless or worse.

    If you don't understand what they are doing. it can look that way.

    The anti-government propaganda which has formed John Larkin's thinking
    on the subject is paid for by US industry, which wants to be free make
    as much money as possible by organising itself into cartels and over- charging its customers.

    https://www.bloomsbury.com/au/big-myth-9781635573572/

    The same author's also wrote

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merchants_of_Doubt

    which is about the climate change denial propaganda machine which has
    formed John Larkin's opinions about climate change.

    But if we fire them, they will just join the existing mob of useless
    drones, so maybe not much will change.

    If it did John Larkin would only notice if his favourite propaganda
    sources told him that it had. The US education system does seem to churn
    out a lot of gullible suckers, and Trump does seem to want to make sure
    that it doesn't get improved by any Federal government intervention.


    Despite having a personal admiration and fascination for them Musk
    sometimes forgets that a lot of people still don't like Hitler, Mao, and Stalin:

    <https://archive.is/SNNyw#selection-857.0-869.170>

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  • From john larkin @21:1/5 to bitrex on Sun Mar 23 10:37:48 2025
    On Sun, 23 Mar 2025 13:19:27 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

    On 3/22/2025 10:48 PM, Bill Sloman wrote:
    On 23/03/2025 9:28 am, john larkin wrote:
    On Sat, 22 Mar 2025 19:15:43 +0100, Jeroen Belleman
    <jeroen@nospam.please> wrote:

    On 3/22/25 16:13, Phil Hobbs wrote:
    john larkin <jlArbor.com> wrote:

    https://regmedia.co.uk/2023/03/09/dutch_shutterstock.jpg?
    x=954&y=477&crop=1



    ;)

    Of course with a square package and no pin 1 mark, its impossible
    to tell
    whether the glorious achievement is Dutch or French.

    Of course the EU will convene another summit and fail to decide, as
    usual.

    Cheers

    Phil Hobbs


    I sometimes think that huge, irresolute governments are good.
    They can't decide on new regulations to bother and impair us.

    Jeroen Belleman

    Better yet, they can't enforce them.

    Some small portion of the population is actually productive. We make
    the food and power and roads and buildings for the rest.

    John Larkin doesn't understand much, so it looks that way to him.

    Most government employees are useless or worse.

    If you don't understand what they are doing. it can look that way.

    The anti-government propaganda which has formed John Larkin's thinking
    on the subject is paid for by US industry, which wants to be free make
    as much money as possible by organising itself into cartels and over-
    charging its customers.

    https://www.bloomsbury.com/au/big-myth-9781635573572/

    The same author's also wrote

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merchants_of_Doubt

    which is about the climate change denial propaganda machine which has
    formed John Larkin's opinions about climate change.

    But if we fire them, they will just join the existing mob of useless
    drones, so maybe not much will change.

    If it did John Larkin would only notice if his favourite propaganda
    sources told him that it had. The US education system does seem to churn
    out a lot of gullible suckers, and Trump does seem to want to make sure
    that it doesn't get improved by any Federal government intervention.


    Despite having a personal admiration and fascination for them Musk
    sometimes forgets that a lot of people still don't like Hitler, Mao, and >Stalin:

    <https://archive.is/SNNyw#selection-857.0-869.170>

    Musk does invent things, and is pretty hands-on.

    You guys should try designing some electronics. It's an activity that
    rubs your nose in reality.

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  • From Lasse Langwadt@21:1/5 to john larkin on Sun Mar 23 19:40:16 2025
    On 3/22/25 17:53, john larkin wrote:
    On Sat, 22 Mar 2025 15:13:25 -0000 (UTC), Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:

    john larkin <jlArbor.com> wrote:

    https://regmedia.co.uk/2023/03/09/dutch_shutterstock.jpg?x=954&y=477&crop=1 >>>


    ;)

    Of course with a square package and no pin 1 mark, it’s impossible to tell >> whether the glorious achievement is Dutch or French.

    Of course the EU will convene another summit and fail to decide, as usual. >>
    Cheers

    Phil Hobbs

    There is a minor industry of artists who know nothing about
    electronics but create and sell stock images of printed circuit
    boards.

    https://www.istockphoto.com/photos/circuit-board

    It's like the people who compose little snippets of pseudo-music that
    are used to add annoyances to moronic radio programs. I think they get something like $20 for one of those.

    I need more coffee.

    now it is all AI, so is this, https://youtube.com/shorts/JBhJkwNh230?si=tIOoSbqY67Q77e8K

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  • From john larkin @21:1/5 to All on Sun Mar 23 13:02:58 2025
    On Sun, 23 Mar 2025 19:40:16 +0100, Lasse Langwadt <llc@fonz.dk>
    wrote:

    On 3/22/25 17:53, john larkin wrote:
    On Sat, 22 Mar 2025 15:13:25 -0000 (UTC), Phil Hobbs
    <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:

    john larkin <jlArbor.com> wrote:

    https://regmedia.co.uk/2023/03/09/dutch_shutterstock.jpg?x=954&y=477&crop=1



    ;)

    Of course with a square package and no pin 1 mark, its impossible to tell >>> whether the glorious achievement is Dutch or French.

    Of course the EU will convene another summit and fail to decide, as usual. >>>
    Cheers

    Phil Hobbs

    There is a minor industry of artists who know nothing about
    electronics but create and sell stock images of printed circuit
    boards.

    https://www.istockphoto.com/photos/circuit-board

    It's like the people who compose little snippets of pseudo-music that
    are used to add annoyances to moronic radio programs. I think they get
    something like $20 for one of those.

    I need more coffee.

    now it is all AI, so is this, >https://youtube.com/shorts/JBhJkwNh230?si=tIOoSbqY67Q77e8K

    AI freckles?

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  • From john larkin @21:1/5 to bitrex on Sun Mar 23 16:08:45 2025
    On Sun, 23 Mar 2025 18:44:39 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

    On 3/23/2025 1:37 PM, john larkin wrote:
    On Sun, 23 Mar 2025 13:19:27 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

    On 3/22/2025 10:48 PM, Bill Sloman wrote:
    On 23/03/2025 9:28 am, john larkin wrote:
    On Sat, 22 Mar 2025 19:15:43 +0100, Jeroen Belleman
    <jeroen@nospam.please> wrote:

    On 3/22/25 16:13, Phil Hobbs wrote:
    john larkin <jlArbor.com> wrote:

    https://regmedia.co.uk/2023/03/09/dutch_shutterstock.jpg?
    x=954&y=477&crop=1



    ;)

    Of course with a square package and no pin 1 mark, its impossible >>>>>>> to tell
    whether the glorious achievement is Dutch or French.

    Of course the EU will convene another summit and fail to decide, as >>>>>>> usual.

    Cheers

    Phil Hobbs


    I sometimes think that huge, irresolute governments are good.
    They can't decide on new regulations to bother and impair us.

    Jeroen Belleman

    Better yet, they can't enforce them.

    Some small portion of the population is actually productive. We make >>>>> the food and power and roads and buildings for the rest.

    John Larkin doesn't understand much, so it looks that way to him.

    Most government employees are useless or worse.

    If you don't understand what they are doing. it can look that way.

    The anti-government propaganda which has formed John Larkin's thinking >>>> on the subject is paid for by US industry, which wants to be free make >>>> as much money as possible by organising itself into cartels and over-
    charging its customers.

    https://www.bloomsbury.com/au/big-myth-9781635573572/

    The same author's also wrote

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merchants_of_Doubt

    which is about the climate change denial propaganda machine which has
    formed John Larkin's opinions about climate change.

    But if we fire them, they will just join the existing mob of useless >>>>> drones, so maybe not much will change.

    If it did John Larkin would only notice if his favourite propaganda
    sources told him that it had. The US education system does seem to churn >>>> out a lot of gullible suckers, and Trump does seem to want to make sure >>>> that it doesn't get improved by any Federal government intervention.


    Despite having a personal admiration and fascination for them Musk
    sometimes forgets that a lot of people still don't like Hitler, Mao, and >>> Stalin:

    <https://archive.is/SNNyw#selection-857.0-869.170>

    Musk does invent things, and is pretty hands-on.

    You guys should try designing some electronics. It's an activity that
    rubs your nose in reality.


    He seems to have given it up to be a politician/social media
    "influencer", he can't have been that good...

    As the richest person on Earth, he must have done something right.

    I don't think he's being paid for the DOGE thing. It's a volunteer
    public service.

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  • From bitrex@21:1/5 to john larkin on Sun Mar 23 18:44:39 2025
    On 3/23/2025 1:37 PM, john larkin wrote:
    On Sun, 23 Mar 2025 13:19:27 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

    On 3/22/2025 10:48 PM, Bill Sloman wrote:
    On 23/03/2025 9:28 am, john larkin wrote:
    On Sat, 22 Mar 2025 19:15:43 +0100, Jeroen Belleman
    <jeroen@nospam.please> wrote:

    On 3/22/25 16:13, Phil Hobbs wrote:
    john larkin <jlArbor.com> wrote:

    https://regmedia.co.uk/2023/03/09/dutch_shutterstock.jpg?
    x=954&y=477&crop=1



    ;)

    Of course with a square package and no pin 1 mark, it’s impossible >>>>>> to tell
    whether the glorious achievement is Dutch or French.

    Of course the EU will convene another summit and fail to decide, as >>>>>> usual.

    Cheers

    Phil Hobbs


    I sometimes think that huge, irresolute governments are good.
    They can't decide on new regulations to bother and impair us.

    Jeroen Belleman

    Better yet, they can't enforce them.

    Some small portion of the population is actually productive. We make
    the food and power and roads and buildings for the rest.

    John Larkin doesn't understand much, so it looks that way to him.

    Most government employees are useless or worse.

    If you don't understand what they are doing. it can look that way.

    The anti-government propaganda which has formed John Larkin's thinking
    on the subject is paid for by US industry, which wants to be free make
    as much money as possible by organising itself into cartels and over-
    charging its customers.

    https://www.bloomsbury.com/au/big-myth-9781635573572/

    The same author's also wrote

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merchants_of_Doubt

    which is about the climate change denial propaganda machine which has
    formed John Larkin's opinions about climate change.

    But if we fire them, they will just join the existing mob of useless
    drones, so maybe not much will change.

    If it did John Larkin would only notice if his favourite propaganda
    sources told him that it had. The US education system does seem to churn >>> out a lot of gullible suckers, and Trump does seem to want to make sure
    that it doesn't get improved by any Federal government intervention.


    Despite having a personal admiration and fascination for them Musk
    sometimes forgets that a lot of people still don't like Hitler, Mao, and
    Stalin:

    <https://archive.is/SNNyw#selection-857.0-869.170>

    Musk does invent things, and is pretty hands-on.

    You guys should try designing some electronics. It's an activity that
    rubs your nose in reality.


    He seems to have given it up to be a politician/social media
    "influencer", he can't have been that good...

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  • From Bill Sloman@21:1/5 to john larkin on Mon Mar 24 16:46:23 2025
    On 24/03/2025 4:37 am, john larkin wrote:
    On Sun, 23 Mar 2025 13:19:27 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

    On 3/22/2025 10:48 PM, Bill Sloman wrote:
    On 23/03/2025 9:28 am, john larkin wrote:
    On Sat, 22 Mar 2025 19:15:43 +0100, Jeroen Belleman
    <jeroen@nospam.please> wrote:

    On 3/22/25 16:13, Phil Hobbs wrote:
    john larkin <jlArbor.com> wrote:

    https://regmedia.co.uk/2023/03/09/dutch_shutterstock.jpg?
    x=954&y=477&crop=1



    ;)

    Of course with a square package and no pin 1 mark, it’s impossible >>>>>> to tell
    whether the glorious achievement is Dutch or French.

    Of course the EU will convene another summit and fail to decide, as >>>>>> usual.

    Cheers

    Phil Hobbs


    I sometimes think that huge, irresolute governments are good.
    They can't decide on new regulations to bother and impair us.

    Jeroen Belleman

    Better yet, they can't enforce them.

    Some small portion of the population is actually productive. We make
    the food and power and roads and buildings for the rest.

    John Larkin doesn't understand much, so it looks that way to him.

    Most government employees are useless or worse.

    If you don't understand what they are doing. it can look that way.

    The anti-government propaganda which has formed John Larkin's thinking
    on the subject is paid for by US industry, which wants to be free make
    as much money as possible by organising itself into cartels and over-
    charging its customers.

    https://www.bloomsbury.com/au/big-myth-9781635573572/

    The same author's also wrote

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merchants_of_Doubt

    which is about the climate change denial propaganda machine which has
    formed John Larkin's opinions about climate change.

    But if we fire them, they will just join the existing mob of useless
    drones, so maybe not much will change.

    If it did John Larkin would only notice if his favourite propaganda
    sources told him that it had. The US education system does seem to churn >>> out a lot of gullible suckers, and Trump does seem to want to make sure
    that it doesn't get improved by any Federal government intervention.


    Despite having a personal admiration and fascination for them Musk
    sometimes forgets that a lot of people still don't like Hitler, Mao, and
    Stalin:

    <https://archive.is/SNNyw#selection-857.0-869.170>

    Musk does invent things, and is pretty hands-on.

    You guys should try designing some electronics. It's an activity that
    rubs your nose in reality.

    Only if if your grasp of theory is as weak as John Larkin's.

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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  • From Bill Sloman@21:1/5 to john larkin on Mon Mar 24 16:57:10 2025
    On 24/03/2025 10:08 am, john larkin wrote:
    On Sun, 23 Mar 2025 18:44:39 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

    On 3/23/2025 1:37 PM, john larkin wrote:
    On Sun, 23 Mar 2025 13:19:27 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

    On 3/22/2025 10:48 PM, Bill Sloman wrote:
    On 23/03/2025 9:28 am, john larkin wrote:
    On Sat, 22 Mar 2025 19:15:43 +0100, Jeroen Belleman
    <jeroen@nospam.please> wrote:

    On 3/22/25 16:13, Phil Hobbs wrote:
    john larkin <jlArbor.com> wrote:

    https://regmedia.co.uk/2023/03/09/dutch_shutterstock.jpg?
    x=954&y=477&crop=1



    ;)

    Of course with a square package and no pin 1 mark, it’s impossible >>>>>>>> to tell
    whether the glorious achievement is Dutch or French.

    Of course the EU will convene another summit and fail to decide, as >>>>>>>> usual.

    Cheers

    Phil Hobbs


    I sometimes think that huge, irresolute governments are good.
    They can't decide on new regulations to bother and impair us.

    Jeroen Belleman

    Better yet, they can't enforce them.

    Some small portion of the population is actually productive. We make >>>>>> the food and power and roads and buildings for the rest.

    John Larkin doesn't understand much, so it looks that way to him.

    Most government employees are useless or worse.

    If you don't understand what they are doing. it can look that way.

    The anti-government propaganda which has formed John Larkin's thinking >>>>> on the subject is paid for by US industry, which wants to be free make >>>>> as much money as possible by organising itself into cartels and over- >>>>> charging its customers.

    https://www.bloomsbury.com/au/big-myth-9781635573572/

    The same author's also wrote

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merchants_of_Doubt

    which is about the climate change denial propaganda machine which has >>>>> formed John Larkin's opinions about climate change.

    But if we fire them, they will just join the existing mob of useless >>>>>> drones, so maybe not much will change.

    If it did John Larkin would only notice if his favourite propaganda
    sources told him that it had. The US education system does seem to churn >>>>> out a lot of gullible suckers, and Trump does seem to want to make sure >>>>> that it doesn't get improved by any Federal government intervention. >>>>>

    Despite having a personal admiration and fascination for them Musk
    sometimes forgets that a lot of people still don't like Hitler, Mao, and >>>> Stalin:

    <https://archive.is/SNNyw#selection-857.0-869.170>

    Musk does invent things, and is pretty hands-on.

    You guys should try designing some electronics. It's an activity that
    rubs your nose in reality.


    He seems to have given it up to be a politician/social media
    "influencer", he can't have been that good...

    As the richest person on Earth, he must have done something right.

    He seems to have been better at buying up people who did know what they
    were doing and needed more capital, that he was at inveting stuff for
    himself.

    US venture capitalism is all about backing twenty companies and
    recovering all the money invested from the one that was worth buying.

    I don't think he's being paid for the DOGE thing. It's a volunteer
    public service.

    Like Carrie Nation.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carrie_Nation

    Musk's objections to bureaucracy seem to be just as intense as Carrie
    Nation's dislike of alcohol, and even more poorly rationalised.

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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  • From bitrex@21:1/5 to Bill Sloman on Mon Mar 24 03:13:03 2025
    On 3/24/2025 1:57 AM, Bill Sloman wrote:
    On 24/03/2025 10:08 am, john larkin wrote:
    On Sun, 23 Mar 2025 18:44:39 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

    On 3/23/2025 1:37 PM, john larkin wrote:
    On Sun, 23 Mar 2025 13:19:27 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

    On 3/22/2025 10:48 PM, Bill Sloman wrote:
    On 23/03/2025 9:28 am, john larkin wrote:
    On Sat, 22 Mar 2025 19:15:43 +0100, Jeroen Belleman
    <jeroen@nospam.please> wrote:

    On 3/22/25 16:13, Phil Hobbs wrote:
    john larkin <jlArbor.com> wrote:

    https://regmedia.co.uk/2023/03/09/dutch_shutterstock.jpg?
    x=954&y=477&crop=1



    ;)

    Of course with a square package and no pin 1 mark, it’s impossible >>>>>>>>> to tell
    whether the glorious achievement is Dutch or French.

    Of course the EU will convene another summit and fail to
    decide, as
    usual.

    Cheers

    Phil Hobbs


    I sometimes think that huge, irresolute governments are good.
    They can't decide on new regulations to bother and impair us.

    Jeroen Belleman

    Better yet, they can't enforce them.

    Some small portion of the population is actually productive. We make >>>>>>> the food and power and roads and buildings for the rest.

    John Larkin doesn't understand much, so it looks that way to him.

    Most government employees are useless or worse.

    If you don't understand what they are doing. it can look that way. >>>>>>
    The anti-government propaganda which has formed John Larkin's
    thinking
    on the subject is paid for by US industry, which wants to be free
    make
    as much money as possible by organising itself into cartels and over- >>>>>> charging its customers.

    https://www.bloomsbury.com/au/big-myth-9781635573572/

    The same author's also wrote

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merchants_of_Doubt

    which is about the climate change denial propaganda machine which has >>>>>> formed John Larkin's opinions about climate change.

    But if we fire them, they will just join the existing mob of useless >>>>>>> drones, so maybe not much will change.

    If it did John Larkin would only notice if his favourite propaganda >>>>>> sources told him that it had. The US education system does seem to >>>>>> churn
    out a lot of gullible suckers, and Trump does seem to want to make >>>>>> sure
    that it doesn't get improved by any Federal government intervention. >>>>>>

    Despite having a personal admiration and fascination for them Musk
    sometimes forgets that a lot of people still don't like Hitler,
    Mao, and
    Stalin:

    <https://archive.is/SNNyw#selection-857.0-869.170>

    Musk does invent things, and is pretty hands-on.

    You guys should try designing some electronics. It's an activity that
    rubs your nose in reality.


    He seems to have given it up to be a politician/social media
    "influencer", he can't have been that good...

    As the richest person on Earth, he must have done something right.

    He seems to have been better at buying up people who did know what they
    were doing and needed more capital, that he was at inveting stuff for himself.

    US venture capitalism is all about backing twenty companies and
    recovering all the money invested from the one that was worth buying.

    I don't think he's being paid for the DOGE thing. It's a volunteer
    public service.

    Like Carrie Nation.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carrie_Nation

    Musk's objections to bureaucracy seem to be just as intense as Carrie Nation's dislike of alcohol, and even more poorly rationalised.




    “Let’s say Social Security didn’t send out your check this month. My mother-in-law, who is 94, wouldn’t call and complain. She just wouldn’t. She’d think something got messed up and will get it next month. A
    fraudster always makes the loudest noise, screaming and yelling and complaining.”

    - Secretary of Commerce Howard Lutnick (net worth $800 million)

    The super-rich oligarchs in the Trump administration really have no clue
    how the US poor (which describes a substantial fraction of their
    faithful) live or what or how they spend what little money they have,
    and have no interest in knowing. And a substantial fraction of their
    faithful seem to prefer it that way, I guess assuming the former know
    they have some mandate to support them regardless that it's very unclear
    they know they have, anymore..

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