• Re: really big physics

    From bitrex@21:1/5 to john larkin on Tue Apr 1 15:35:16 2025
    On 4/1/2025 2:02 PM, john larkin wrote:

    https://www.breitbart.com/news/scientists-release-plans-for-an-even-bigger-atom-smasher-along-the-french-swiss-border/


    Watching the technocrat STEM supremacy-type conservatives fight it out
    with the back-to-nature, government should never do anything except
    enforce the 10 Commandments, science is the tool of Satan-style
    conservatives in the comments is always a treat.

    At least one correctly notes that it was a Democrat-majority Congress
    that cancelled the Superconducting Super Collider in '93. I wonder how
    many of the Clinton administration's playbooks are left lying around in
    DC, the Clintons should probably sue DOGE for plagiarizing their ideas.

    But the Reagan administration sure was a different time it's like the
    right simply hasn't really known what to do with itself for 30 years,
    until Trump showed up to give this cat-herding exercise a heavy dose of identity politics to bond over.

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  • From john larkin@21:1/5 to bitrex on Tue Apr 1 12:59:09 2025
    On Tue, 1 Apr 2025 15:35:16 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

    On 4/1/2025 2:02 PM, john larkin wrote:

    https://www.breitbart.com/news/scientists-release-plans-for-an-even-bigger-atom-smasher-along-the-french-swiss-border/


    Watching the technocrat STEM supremacy-type conservatives fight it out
    with the back-to-nature, government should never do anything except
    enforce the 10 Commandments, science is the tool of Satan-style
    conservatives in the comments is always a treat.


    Gosh, what are you smoking today?


    At least one correctly notes that it was a Democrat-majority Congress
    that cancelled the Superconducting Super Collider in '93. I wonder how
    many of the Clinton administration's playbooks are left lying around in
    DC, the Clintons should probably sue DOGE for plagiarizing their ideas.

    We managed to make some money on the SSC. They actually built the
    helium processing facility in Waxahatchie, and we sold them a bunch of
    CAMAC cryogenics instrumentation, liquid helium temperature and level
    measuring stuff.


    But the Reagan administration sure was a different time it's like the
    right simply hasn't really known what to do with itself for 30 years,
    until Trump showed up to give this cat-herding exercise a heavy dose of >identity politics to bond over.

    Makes you sad.

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  • From john larkin@21:1/5 to All on Tue Apr 1 11:02:36 2025
  • From Bill Sloman@21:1/5 to john larkin on Wed Apr 2 14:02:03 2025
    On 2/04/2025 6:59 am, john larkin wrote:
    On Tue, 1 Apr 2025 15:35:16 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

    On 4/1/2025 2:02 PM, john larkin wrote:

    https://www.breitbart.com/news/scientists-release-plans-for-an-even-bigger-atom-smasher-along-the-french-swiss-border/


    Watching the technocrat STEM supremacy-type conservatives fight it out
    with the back-to-nature, government should never do anything except
    enforce the 10 Commandments, science is the tool of Satan-style
    conservatives in the comments is always a treat.


    Gosh, what are you smoking today?

    It seems to have given him an access to the real world that many
    Americans lack.

    At least one correctly notes that it was a Democrat-majority Congress
    that cancelled the Superconducting Super Collider in '93. I wonder how
    many of the Clinton administration's playbooks are left lying around in
    DC, the Clintons should probably sue DOGE for plagiarizing their ideas.

    We managed to make some money on the SSC. They actually built the
    helium processing facility in Waxahatchie, and we sold them a bunch of
    CAMAC cryogenics instrumentation, liquid helium temperature and level measuring stuff.

    Strange how this godless communism still managed to put money into the
    pockets of people with far-right political opinions.
    But the Reagan administration sure was a different time it's like the
    right simply hasn't really known what to do with itself for 30 years,
    until Trump showed up to give this cat-herding exercise a heavy dose of
    identity politics to bond over.

    Makes you sad.

    Trump's antics are amusing, but he's doing real harm. Once his lunatic
    ideas get enough traction to cut into the profits of big business he'll
    be neutralised. He didn't do a lot of damage in his first term - half
    million more deaths from Covid-19 than there should have been was bad,
    but few of them were seriously rich. The tactics that neutralised him
    then presumably won't work as well the second time around, but peole
    with lots of money can buy a lot of creative help.

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  • From Cursitor Doom@21:1/5 to All on Wed Apr 2 18:02:10 2025
    On Tue, 01 Apr 2025 12:59:09 -0700, john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com>
    wrote:

    On Tue, 1 Apr 2025 15:35:16 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

    On 4/1/2025 2:02 PM, john larkin wrote:

    https://www.breitbart.com/news/scientists-release-plans-for-an-even-bigger-atom-smasher-along-the-french-swiss-border/


    Watching the technocrat STEM supremacy-type conservatives fight it out
    with the back-to-nature, government should never do anything except
    enforce the 10 Commandments, science is the tool of Satan-style >>conservatives in the comments is always a treat.


    Gosh, what are you smoking today?


    At least one correctly notes that it was a Democrat-majority Congress
    that cancelled the Superconducting Super Collider in '93. I wonder how
    many of the Clinton administration's playbooks are left lying around in
    DC, the Clintons should probably sue DOGE for plagiarizing their ideas.

    We managed to make some money on the SSC. They actually built the
    helium processing facility in Waxahatchie, and we sold them a bunch of
    CAMAC cryogenics instrumentation, liquid helium temperature and level >measuring stuff.


    But the Reagan administration sure was a different time it's like the
    right simply hasn't really known what to do with itself for 30 years,
    until Trump showed up to give this cat-herding exercise a heavy dose of >>identity politics to bond over.

    Makes you sad.

    The best thing for the West right now is a hefty dose of nationalistic patriotism (but without the bellicose element which we can well do
    without, of course). Globalism has impoverished us, and will continue
    to do so until its proponents are crushed and sanity restored.

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  • From john larkin@21:1/5 to All on Wed Apr 2 13:46:32 2025
    On Wed, 02 Apr 2025 18:02:10 +0100, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com>
    wrote:

    On Tue, 01 Apr 2025 12:59:09 -0700, john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com>
    wrote:

    On Tue, 1 Apr 2025 15:35:16 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

    On 4/1/2025 2:02 PM, john larkin wrote:

    https://www.breitbart.com/news/scientists-release-plans-for-an-even-bigger-atom-smasher-along-the-french-swiss-border/


    Watching the technocrat STEM supremacy-type conservatives fight it out >>>with the back-to-nature, government should never do anything except >>>enforce the 10 Commandments, science is the tool of Satan-style >>>conservatives in the comments is always a treat.


    Gosh, what are you smoking today?


    At least one correctly notes that it was a Democrat-majority Congress >>>that cancelled the Superconducting Super Collider in '93. I wonder how >>>many of the Clinton administration's playbooks are left lying around in >>>DC, the Clintons should probably sue DOGE for plagiarizing their ideas.

    We managed to make some money on the SSC. They actually built the
    helium processing facility in Waxahatchie, and we sold them a bunch of >>CAMAC cryogenics instrumentation, liquid helium temperature and level >>measuring stuff.


    But the Reagan administration sure was a different time it's like the >>>right simply hasn't really known what to do with itself for 30 years, >>>until Trump showed up to give this cat-herding exercise a heavy dose of >>>identity politics to bond over.

    Makes you sad.

    The best thing for the West right now is a hefty dose of nationalistic >patriotism (but without the bellicose element which we can well do
    without, of course). Globalism has impoverished us, and will continue
    to do so until its proponents are crushed and sanity restored.

    Competition makes most everything better. In the USA, we have states
    competing for people and businesses. Europe would be better off with
    more (peaceful!) competition between countries and less globalist
    bureaucracy.

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  • From Bill Sloman@21:1/5 to john larkin on Thu Apr 3 14:44:26 2025
    On 3/04/2025 7:46 am, john larkin wrote:
    On Wed, 02 Apr 2025 18:02:10 +0100, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com>
    wrote:

    On Tue, 01 Apr 2025 12:59:09 -0700, john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com>
    wrote:

    On Tue, 1 Apr 2025 15:35:16 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

    On 4/1/2025 2:02 PM, john larkin wrote:

    <snip>

    The best thing for the West right now is a hefty dose of nationalistic
    patriotism (but without the bellicose element which we can well do
    without, of course). Globalism has impoverished us, and will continue
    to do so until its proponents are crushed and sanity restored.

    "Globalism", like "cultural Marxism" is just one more lunatic right-wing conspiracy theory. Cursitor Doom likes his plitical delusion to be
    totally implausible, so he's big fan of both.

    Competition makes most everything better.

    Health care does seem to be an obvious exception. The less efficient competitors kill people more often, but it takes a while for the
    customers to notice. Regulators look out for this kind of incompetence,
    and get rid of them before they kill quite a many people as they do in a competitive system.

    In the USA, we have states
    competing for people and businesses. Europe would be better off with
    more (peaceful!) competition between countries and less globalist bureaucracy.

    The whole point of the European Union is that it s a free trade area,
    and all the producers within those countries compete. There is a a
    Europe-wide regulation system, and England got out in part because their manufacturers disliked having less influence on the regulators than they
    had been used to. I was involved in part of the UK regulation system in
    a small way in the early 1980's and was surprised by the antics of some
    of the UK manufacturing representatives.

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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  • From bitrex@21:1/5 to Cursitor Doom on Thu Apr 3 01:24:36 2025
    On 4/2/2025 1:02 PM, Cursitor Doom wrote:

    But the Reagan administration sure was a different time it's like the
    right simply hasn't really known what to do with itself for 30 years,
    until Trump showed up to give this cat-herding exercise a heavy dose of
    identity politics to bond over.

    Makes you sad.

    The best thing for the West right now is a hefty dose of nationalistic patriotism (but without the bellicose element which we can well do
    without, of course). Globalism has impoverished us, and will continue
    to do so until its proponents are crushed and sanity restored.

    <https://x.com/AmichaiStein1/status/1907545520303714520>

    25% tariff on vehicles and a 20% tariff on Israel, really putting
    previous "left wing" administrations to shame in certain areas to be fair.

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  • From bitrex@21:1/5 to john larkin on Thu Apr 3 01:52:36 2025
    On 4/2/2025 4:46 PM, john larkin wrote:

    The best thing for the West right now is a hefty dose of nationalistic
    patriotism (but without the bellicose element which we can well do
    without, of course). Globalism has impoverished us, and will continue
    to do so until its proponents are crushed and sanity restored.

    Competition makes most everything better. In the USA, we have states competing for people and businesses. Europe would be better off with
    more (peaceful!) competition between countries and less globalist bureaucracy.

    If the US shuts out the whole world, then the whole world will be all
    alone without us. Checkmate, world!

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  • From Liz Tuddenham@21:1/5 to bitrex on Thu Apr 3 09:14:46 2025
    bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

    On 4/2/2025 4:46 PM, john larkin wrote:

    The best thing for the West right now is a hefty dose of nationalistic
    patriotism (but without the bellicose element which we can well do
    without, of course). Globalism has impoverished us, and will continue
    to do so until its proponents are crushed and sanity restored.

    Competition makes most everything better. In the USA, we have states competing for people and businesses. Europe would be better off with
    more (peaceful!) competition between countries and less globalist bureaucracy.

    If the US shuts out the whole world, then the whole world will be all
    alone without us. Checkmate, world!

    If the US shuts out the whole world, then theUS will be all
    alone without the rest of the World. Checkmate,US!


    --
    ~ Liz Tuddenham ~
    (Remove the ".invalid"s and add ".co.uk" to reply)
    www.poppyrecords.co.uk

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  • From john larkin @21:1/5 to bitrex on Thu Apr 3 04:11:17 2025
    On Thu, 3 Apr 2025 01:52:36 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

    On 4/2/2025 4:46 PM, john larkin wrote:

    The best thing for the West right now is a hefty dose of nationalistic
    patriotism (but without the bellicose element which we can well do
    without, of course). Globalism has impoverished us, and will continue
    to do so until its proponents are crushed and sanity restored.

    Competition makes most everything better. In the USA, we have states
    competing for people and businesses. Europe would be better off with
    more (peaceful!) competition between countries and less globalist
    bureaucracy.

    If the US shuts out the whole world, then the whole world will be all
    alone without us. Checkmate, world!

    The ski lift lines will be a lot shorter. Sounds good to me.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From john larkin @21:1/5 to Liz Tuddenham on Thu Apr 3 04:31:32 2025
    On Thu, 3 Apr 2025 09:14:46 +0100, liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid
    (Liz Tuddenham) wrote:

    bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

    On 4/2/2025 4:46 PM, john larkin wrote:

    The best thing for the West right now is a hefty dose of nationalistic
    patriotism (but without the bellicose element which we can well do
    without, of course). Globalism has impoverished us, and will continue
    to do so until its proponents are crushed and sanity restored.

    Competition makes most everything better. In the USA, we have states
    competing for people and businesses. Europe would be better off with
    more (peaceful!) competition between countries and less globalist
    bureaucracy.

    If the US shuts out the whole world, then the whole world will be all
    alone without us. Checkmate, world!

    If the US shuts out the whole world, then theUS will be all
    alone without the rest of the World. Checkmate,US!

    https://justthenews.com/sites/default/files/styles/card/public/2025-04/GettyImages-2208184612.jpg?h=199d8c1f&itok=aHFHHcAS

    Open borders and wildly asymmetric tarriffs benefit the coastal elites
    and hurt the flyover-territory working class, namely increase
    inequality in the US. I think the working people feel this
    intuitively, and voted suitably.

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  • From Bill Sloman@21:1/5 to john larkin on Thu Apr 3 23:44:32 2025
    On 3/04/2025 10:11 pm, john larkin wrote:
    On Thu, 3 Apr 2025 01:52:36 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

    On 4/2/2025 4:46 PM, john larkin wrote:

    The best thing for the West right now is a hefty dose of nationalistic >>>> patriotism (but without the bellicose element which we can well do
    without, of course). Globalism has impoverished us, and will continue
    to do so until its proponents are crushed and sanity restored.

    Competition makes most everything better. In the USA, we have states
    competing for people and businesses. Europe would be better off with
    more (peaceful!) competition between countries and less globalist
    bureaucracy.

    If the US shuts out the whole world, then the whole world will be all
    alone without us. Checkmate, world!

    The ski lift lines will be a lot shorter. Sounds good to me.

    It would. Somebody with more sense might wonder if was going to
    profitable to keep them running for the few remaining customers.
    Ski lifts are a luxury servic, and they tend to shut down during
    recessions, which is what Trump's antics are likely to provoke.

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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  • From Bill Sloman@21:1/5 to john larkin on Thu Apr 3 23:40:12 2025
    On 3/04/2025 10:31 pm, john larkin wrote:
    On Thu, 3 Apr 2025 09:14:46 +0100, liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid
    (Liz Tuddenham) wrote:

    bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

    On 4/2/2025 4:46 PM, john larkin wrote:

    The best thing for the West right now is a hefty dose of nationalistic >>>>> patriotism (but without the bellicose element which we can well do
    without, of course). Globalism has impoverished us, and will continue >>>>> to do so until its proponents are crushed and sanity restored.

    Competition makes most everything better. In the USA, we have states
    competing for people and businesses. Europe would be better off with
    more (peaceful!) competition between countries and less globalist
    bureaucracy.

    If the US shuts out the whole world, then the whole world will be all
    alone without us. Checkmate, world!

    If the US shuts out the whole world, then theUS will be all
    alone without the rest of the World. Checkmate,US!

    https://justthenews.com/sites/default/files/styles/card/public/2025-04/GettyImages-2208184612.jpg?h=199d8c1f&itok=aHFHHcAS

    Open borders and wildly asymmetric tarriffs benefit the coastal elites
    and hurt the flyover-territory working class, namely increase
    inequality in the US. I think the working people feel this
    intuitively, and voted suitably.

    US inequality is remarkably high, and has been for years.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Spirit_Level_(book)

    was published in 2009, and documents a long established situation.

    Trump is introducing asymmetric tariffs, and these will cost consumer's
    money. There's a real chance that they will trigger an international
    recession, much as the Smoot-Hawley Act did in 1930.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smoot%E2%80%93Hawley_Tariff_Act

    This isn't going to help the flyover-territory working class in the US,
    and if Trump's clown car knew what they were doing they'd know this.
    You should too.

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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  • From Phil Hobbs@21:1/5 to Liz Tuddenham on Thu Apr 3 11:54:27 2025
    On 2025-04-03 04:14, Liz Tuddenham wrote:
    bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

    On 4/2/2025 4:46 PM, john larkin wrote:

    The best thing for the West right now is a hefty dose of nationalistic >>>> patriotism (but without the bellicose element which we can well do
    without, of course). Globalism has impoverished us, and will continue
    to do so until its proponents are crushed and sanity restored.

    Competition makes most everything better. In the USA, we have states
    competing for people and businesses. Europe would be better off with
    more (peaceful!) competition between countries and less globalist
    bureaucracy.

    If the US shuts out the whole world, then the whole world will be all
    alone without us. Checkmate, world!

    If the US shuts out the whole world, then theUS will be all
    alone without the rest of the World. Checkmate,US!



    "Fog In Channel; Continent Isolated" ;)

    Cheers

    Phil Hobbs

    --
    Dr Philip C D Hobbs
    Principal Consultant
    ElectroOptical Innovations LLC / Hobbs ElectroOptics
    Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics
    Briarcliff Manor NY 10510

    http://electrooptical.net
    http://hobbs-eo.com

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  • From john larkin@21:1/5 to bitrex on Thu Apr 3 11:04:02 2025
    On Thu, 3 Apr 2025 01:24:36 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

    On 4/2/2025 1:02 PM, Cursitor Doom wrote:

    But the Reagan administration sure was a different time it's like the
    right simply hasn't really known what to do with itself for 30 years,
    until Trump showed up to give this cat-herding exercise a heavy dose of >>>> identity politics to bond over.

    Makes you sad.

    The best thing for the West right now is a hefty dose of nationalistic
    patriotism (but without the bellicose element which we can well do
    without, of course). Globalism has impoverished us, and will continue
    to do so until its proponents are crushed and sanity restored.

    <https://x.com/AmichaiStein1/status/1907545520303714520>

    25% tariff on vehicles and a 20% tariff on Israel, really putting
    previous "left wing" administrations to shame in certain areas to be fair.

    It's The Art of the Deal. Somebody wrote a book about that.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Jeroen Belleman@21:1/5 to john larkin on Thu Apr 3 23:42:15 2025
    On 4/3/25 20:04, john larkin wrote:
    On Thu, 3 Apr 2025 01:24:36 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

    On 4/2/2025 1:02 PM, Cursitor Doom wrote:

    But the Reagan administration sure was a different time it's like the >>>>> right simply hasn't really known what to do with itself for 30 years, >>>>> until Trump showed up to give this cat-herding exercise a heavy dose of >>>>> identity politics to bond over.

    Makes you sad.

    The best thing for the West right now is a hefty dose of nationalistic
    patriotism (but without the bellicose element which we can well do
    without, of course). Globalism has impoverished us, and will continue
    to do so until its proponents are crushed and sanity restored.

    <https://x.com/AmichaiStein1/status/1907545520303714520>

    25% tariff on vehicles and a 20% tariff on Israel, really putting
    previous "left wing" administrations to shame in certain areas to be fair.

    It's The Art of the Deal. Somebody wrote a book about that.


    I can't imagine anyone making a deal with Trump now. He has amply
    demonstrated to be utterly untrustworthy.

    Jeroen Belleman

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  • From bitrex@21:1/5 to john larkin on Thu Apr 3 19:56:24 2025
    On 4/3/2025 2:04 PM, john larkin wrote:
    On Thu, 3 Apr 2025 01:24:36 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

    On 4/2/2025 1:02 PM, Cursitor Doom wrote:

    But the Reagan administration sure was a different time it's like the >>>>> right simply hasn't really known what to do with itself for 30 years, >>>>> until Trump showed up to give this cat-herding exercise a heavy dose of >>>>> identity politics to bond over.

    Makes you sad.

    The best thing for the West right now is a hefty dose of nationalistic
    patriotism (but without the bellicose element which we can well do
    without, of course). Globalism has impoverished us, and will continue
    to do so until its proponents are crushed and sanity restored.

    <https://x.com/AmichaiStein1/status/1907545520303714520>

    25% tariff on vehicles and a 20% tariff on Israel, really putting
    previous "left wing" administrations to shame in certain areas to be fair.

    It's The Art of the Deal. Somebody wrote a book about that.


    One of the best things people could do for the environment is buy fewer
    cars, and most of them were silly-priced to begin with.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From john larkin@21:1/5 to jeroen@nospam.please on Thu Apr 3 17:57:42 2025
    On Thu, 3 Apr 2025 23:42:15 +0200, Jeroen Belleman
    <jeroen@nospam.please> wrote:

    On 4/3/25 20:04, john larkin wrote:
    On Thu, 3 Apr 2025 01:24:36 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

    On 4/2/2025 1:02 PM, Cursitor Doom wrote:

    But the Reagan administration sure was a different time it's like the >>>>>> right simply hasn't really known what to do with itself for 30 years, >>>>>> until Trump showed up to give this cat-herding exercise a heavy dose of >>>>>> identity politics to bond over.

    Makes you sad.

    The best thing for the West right now is a hefty dose of nationalistic >>>> patriotism (but without the bellicose element which we can well do
    without, of course). Globalism has impoverished us, and will continue
    to do so until its proponents are crushed and sanity restored.

    <https://x.com/AmichaiStein1/status/1907545520303714520>

    25% tariff on vehicles and a 20% tariff on Israel, really putting
    previous "left wing" administrations to shame in certain areas to be fair. >>
    It's The Art of the Deal. Somebody wrote a book about that.


    I can't imagine anyone making a deal with Trump now. He has amply >demonstrated to be utterly untrustworthy.

    Jeroen Belleman

    How so?

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  • From Jeff Liebermann@21:1/5 to All on Thu Apr 3 21:00:22 2025
    On Thu, 03 Apr 2025 11:04:02 -0700, john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com>
    wrote:

    On Thu, 3 Apr 2025 01:24:36 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

    On 4/2/2025 1:02 PM, Cursitor Doom wrote:

    But the Reagan administration sure was a different time it's like the >>>>> right simply hasn't really known what to do with itself for 30 years, >>>>> until Trump showed up to give this cat-herding exercise a heavy dose of >>>>> identity politics to bond over.

    Makes you sad.

    The best thing for the West right now is a hefty dose of nationalistic
    patriotism (but without the bellicose element which we can well do
    without, of course). Globalism has impoverished us, and will continue
    to do so until its proponents are crushed and sanity restored.

    <https://x.com/AmichaiStein1/status/1907545520303714520>

    25% tariff on vehicles and a 20% tariff on Israel, really putting
    previous "left wing" administrations to shame in certain areas to be fair.

    It's The Art of the Deal. Somebody wrote a book about that.

    Tony Schwartz wrote the book for Trump as his ghostwriter.

    "Donald Trump’s Ghostwriter Tells All" <https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2016/07/25/donald-trumps-ghostwriter-tells-all>
    "...over the decades, Trump appeared to have convinced himself that he
    had written the book. Schwartz recalls thinking, 'If he could lie
    about that on Day One when it was so easily refuted, he is likely to
    lie about anything'".

    --
    Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
    PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
    Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
    Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

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  • From Bill Sloman@21:1/5 to john larkin on Fri Apr 4 15:20:09 2025
    On 4/04/2025 11:57 am, john larkin wrote:
    On Thu, 3 Apr 2025 23:42:15 +0200, Jeroen Belleman
    <jeroen@nospam.please> wrote:

    On 4/3/25 20:04, john larkin wrote:
    On Thu, 3 Apr 2025 01:24:36 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

    On 4/2/2025 1:02 PM, Cursitor Doom wrote:

    But the Reagan administration sure was a different time it's like the >>>>>>> right simply hasn't really known what to do with itself for 30 years, >>>>>>> until Trump showed up to give this cat-herding exercise a heavy dose of >>>>>>> identity politics to bond over.

    Makes you sad.

    The best thing for the West right now is a hefty dose of nationalistic >>>>> patriotism (but without the bellicose element which we can well do
    without, of course). Globalism has impoverished us, and will continue >>>>> to do so until its proponents are crushed and sanity restored.

    <https://x.com/AmichaiStein1/status/1907545520303714520>

    25% tariff on vehicles and a 20% tariff on Israel, really putting
    previous "left wing" administrations to shame in certain areas to be fair. >>>
    It's The Art of the Deal. Somebody wrote a book about that.


    I can't imagine anyone making a deal with Trump now. He has amply
    demonstrated to be utterly untrustworthy.

    How so?

    If you haven't noticed any of the evidence yet, your powers of
    observation aren't up to much (as we've noticed).

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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  • From bitrex@21:1/5 to Bill Sloman on Fri Apr 4 00:40:29 2025
    On 4/4/2025 12:16 AM, Bill Sloman wrote:
    On 4/04/2025 5:04 am, john larkin wrote:
    On Thu, 3 Apr 2025 01:24:36 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

    On 4/2/2025 1:02 PM, Cursitor Doom wrote:

    But the Reagan administration sure was a different time it's like the >>>>>> right simply hasn't really known what to do with itself for 30 years, >>>>>> until Trump showed up to give this cat-herding exercise a heavy
    dose of
    identity politics to bond over.

    Makes you sad.

    The best thing for the West right now is a hefty dose of nationalistic >>>> patriotism (but without the bellicose element which we can well do
    without, of course). Globalism has impoverished us, and will continue
    to do so until its proponents are crushed and sanity restored.

    <https://x.com/AmichaiStein1/status/1907545520303714520>

    25% tariff on vehicles and a 20% tariff on Israel, really putting
    previous "left wing" administrations to shame in certain areas to be
    fair.

    It's The Art of the Deal. Somebody wrote a book about that.

    Actually Tony Schwartz ghost-wrote it to be published to exploit Donald Trump's public image.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Art_of_the_Deal

    It was a great investment for the publisher, and boosted Trump's image
    no end. The fact that a number of Trump's business deals lead to huge bankruptcies is a warning that his supporters don't seem to be aware of.


    The US declaring bankruptcy is certainly an option

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  • From Bill Sloman@21:1/5 to john larkin on Fri Apr 4 15:16:48 2025
    On 4/04/2025 5:04 am, john larkin wrote:
    On Thu, 3 Apr 2025 01:24:36 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

    On 4/2/2025 1:02 PM, Cursitor Doom wrote:

    But the Reagan administration sure was a different time it's like the >>>>> right simply hasn't really known what to do with itself for 30 years, >>>>> until Trump showed up to give this cat-herding exercise a heavy dose of >>>>> identity politics to bond over.

    Makes you sad.

    The best thing for the West right now is a hefty dose of nationalistic
    patriotism (but without the bellicose element which we can well do
    without, of course). Globalism has impoverished us, and will continue
    to do so until its proponents are crushed and sanity restored.

    <https://x.com/AmichaiStein1/status/1907545520303714520>

    25% tariff on vehicles and a 20% tariff on Israel, really putting
    previous "left wing" administrations to shame in certain areas to be fair.

    It's The Art of the Deal. Somebody wrote a book about that.

    Actually Tony Schwartz ghost-wrote it to be published to exploit Donald
    Trump's public image.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Art_of_the_Deal

    It was a great investment for the publisher, and boosted Trump's image
    no end. The fact that a number of Trump's business deals lead to huge bankruptcies is a warning that his supporters don't seem to be aware of.

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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  • From Jeroen Belleman@21:1/5 to john larkin on Fri Apr 4 17:38:40 2025
    On 4/4/25 02:57, john larkin wrote:
    On Thu, 3 Apr 2025 23:42:15 +0200, Jeroen Belleman
    <jeroen@nospam.please> wrote:

    On 4/3/25 20:04, john larkin wrote:
    On Thu, 3 Apr 2025 01:24:36 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

    On 4/2/2025 1:02 PM, Cursitor Doom wrote:

    But the Reagan administration sure was a different time it's like the >>>>>>> right simply hasn't really known what to do with itself for 30 years, >>>>>>> until Trump showed up to give this cat-herding exercise a heavy dose of >>>>>>> identity politics to bond over.

    Makes you sad.

    The best thing for the West right now is a hefty dose of nationalistic >>>>> patriotism (but without the bellicose element which we can well do
    without, of course). Globalism has impoverished us, and will continue >>>>> to do so until its proponents are crushed and sanity restored.

    <https://x.com/AmichaiStein1/status/1907545520303714520>

    25% tariff on vehicles and a 20% tariff on Israel, really putting
    previous "left wing" administrations to shame in certain areas to be fair. >>>
    It's The Art of the Deal. Somebody wrote a book about that.


    I can't imagine anyone making a deal with Trump now. He has amply
    demonstrated to be utterly untrustworthy.

    Jeroen Belleman

    How so?


    Oh, <shrug> nothing.

    Jeroen Belleman

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  • From john larkin @21:1/5 to jeroen@nospam.please on Fri Apr 4 08:49:49 2025
    On Fri, 4 Apr 2025 17:38:40 +0200, Jeroen Belleman
    <jeroen@nospam.please> wrote:

    On 4/4/25 02:57, john larkin wrote:
    On Thu, 3 Apr 2025 23:42:15 +0200, Jeroen Belleman
    <jeroen@nospam.please> wrote:

    On 4/3/25 20:04, john larkin wrote:
    On Thu, 3 Apr 2025 01:24:36 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

    On 4/2/2025 1:02 PM, Cursitor Doom wrote:

    But the Reagan administration sure was a different time it's like the >>>>>>>> right simply hasn't really known what to do with itself for 30 years, >>>>>>>> until Trump showed up to give this cat-herding exercise a heavy dose of
    identity politics to bond over.

    Makes you sad.

    The best thing for the West right now is a hefty dose of nationalistic >>>>>> patriotism (but without the bellicose element which we can well do >>>>>> without, of course). Globalism has impoverished us, and will continue >>>>>> to do so until its proponents are crushed and sanity restored.

    <https://x.com/AmichaiStein1/status/1907545520303714520>

    25% tariff on vehicles and a 20% tariff on Israel, really putting
    previous "left wing" administrations to shame in certain areas to be fair.

    It's The Art of the Deal. Somebody wrote a book about that.


    I can't imagine anyone making a deal with Trump now. He has amply
    demonstrated to be utterly untrustworthy.

    Jeroen Belleman

    How so?


    Oh, <shrug> nothing.

    Jeroen Belleman

    Exactly. Nothing.

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  • From Jeroen Belleman@21:1/5 to john larkin on Fri Apr 4 19:58:21 2025
    On 4/4/25 17:49, john larkin wrote:
    On Fri, 4 Apr 2025 17:38:40 +0200, Jeroen Belleman
    <jeroen@nospam.please> wrote:

    On 4/4/25 02:57, john larkin wrote:
    On Thu, 3 Apr 2025 23:42:15 +0200, Jeroen Belleman
    <jeroen@nospam.please> wrote:

    On 4/3/25 20:04, john larkin wrote:
    On Thu, 3 Apr 2025 01:24:36 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

    On 4/2/2025 1:02 PM, Cursitor Doom wrote:

    But the Reagan administration sure was a different time it's like the >>>>>>>>> right simply hasn't really known what to do with itself for 30 years, >>>>>>>>> until Trump showed up to give this cat-herding exercise a heavy dose of
    identity politics to bond over.

    Makes you sad.

    The best thing for the West right now is a hefty dose of nationalistic >>>>>>> patriotism (but without the bellicose element which we can well do >>>>>>> without, of course). Globalism has impoverished us, and will continue >>>>>>> to do so until its proponents are crushed and sanity restored.

    <https://x.com/AmichaiStein1/status/1907545520303714520>

    25% tariff on vehicles and a 20% tariff on Israel, really putting
    previous "left wing" administrations to shame in certain areas to be fair.

    It's The Art of the Deal. Somebody wrote a book about that.


    I can't imagine anyone making a deal with Trump now. He has amply
    demonstrated to be utterly untrustworthy.

    Jeroen Belleman

    How so?


    Oh, <shrug> nothing.

    Jeroen Belleman

    Exactly. Nothing.


    How much of your electronics is made in Taiwan? Components, I mean,
    not your final product.

    Jeroen Belleman

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  • From john larkin @21:1/5 to jeroen@nospam.please on Fri Apr 4 11:38:10 2025
    On Fri, 4 Apr 2025 19:58:21 +0200, Jeroen Belleman
    <jeroen@nospam.please> wrote:

    On 4/4/25 17:49, john larkin wrote:
    On Fri, 4 Apr 2025 17:38:40 +0200, Jeroen Belleman
    <jeroen@nospam.please> wrote:

    On 4/4/25 02:57, john larkin wrote:
    On Thu, 3 Apr 2025 23:42:15 +0200, Jeroen Belleman
    <jeroen@nospam.please> wrote:

    On 4/3/25 20:04, john larkin wrote:
    On Thu, 3 Apr 2025 01:24:36 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote: >>>>>>
    On 4/2/2025 1:02 PM, Cursitor Doom wrote:

    But the Reagan administration sure was a different time it's like the
    right simply hasn't really known what to do with itself for 30 years,
    until Trump showed up to give this cat-herding exercise a heavy dose of
    identity politics to bond over.

    Makes you sad.

    The best thing for the West right now is a hefty dose of nationalistic >>>>>>>> patriotism (but without the bellicose element which we can well do >>>>>>>> without, of course). Globalism has impoverished us, and will continue >>>>>>>> to do so until its proponents are crushed and sanity restored.

    <https://x.com/AmichaiStein1/status/1907545520303714520>

    25% tariff on vehicles and a 20% tariff on Israel, really putting >>>>>>> previous "left wing" administrations to shame in certain areas to be fair.

    It's The Art of the Deal. Somebody wrote a book about that.


    I can't imagine anyone making a deal with Trump now. He has amply
    demonstrated to be utterly untrustworthy.

    Jeroen Belleman

    How so?


    Oh, <shrug> nothing.

    Jeroen Belleman

    Exactly. Nothing.


    How much of your electronics is made in Taiwan? Components, I mean,
    not your final product.

    Jeroen Belleman

    TSMC makes most of the good chips in the world. Samsung is important
    too.

    https://pr.tsmc.com/english/news/3210

    “Back in 2020, thanks to President Trump’s vision and support, we
    embarked on our journey of establishing advanced chip manufacturing in
    the United States. This vision is now a reality," said TSMC Chairman
    and CEO Dr. C.C. Wei.


    Nice work, DT.

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  • From Bill Sloman@21:1/5 to john larkin on Sun Apr 6 01:24:40 2025
    On 5/04/2025 5:38 am, john larkin wrote:
    On Fri, 4 Apr 2025 19:58:21 +0200, Jeroen Belleman
    <jeroen@nospam.please> wrote:

    On 4/4/25 17:49, john larkin wrote:
    On Fri, 4 Apr 2025 17:38:40 +0200, Jeroen Belleman
    <jeroen@nospam.please> wrote:

    On 4/4/25 02:57, john larkin wrote:
    On Thu, 3 Apr 2025 23:42:15 +0200, Jeroen Belleman
    <jeroen@nospam.please> wrote:

    On 4/3/25 20:04, john larkin wrote:
    On Thu, 3 Apr 2025 01:24:36 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote: >>>>>>>
    On 4/2/2025 1:02 PM, Cursitor Doom wrote:

    <snip>

    How much of your electronics is made in Taiwan? Components, I mean,
    not your final product.

    TSMC makes most of the good chips in the world. Samsung is important
    too.

    https://pr.tsmc.com/english/news/3210

    “Back in 2020, thanks to President Trump’s vision and support, we embarked on our journey of establishing advanced chip manufacturing in
    the United States. This vision is now a reality," said TSMC Chairman
    and CEO Dr. C.C. Wei.

    Nice work, DT.

    Donald Trump's contribution wasn't exactly large. Everybody seems to
    have thought that it was good idea, and Joe Biden seems to have
    supported it when he came to power.

    Donald Trump is more into delusions than vision. His bizarre delusions
    about tariff's seem likely to wreck international trade, and his team's
    grasp of detail has him slapping tariffs on the non-existent exports
    from the uninhabited Heard Island south of Australia.

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/apr/03/donald-trump-tariffs-antarctica-uninhabited-heard-mcdonald-islands

    Apparently the tariff levels are set by the trade imbalance between the
    US and the country whose goods are being subject to tariff - producing
    goods that the US is willing to buy seems to be a punishable crime in
    his book.

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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