• OT: Covid's True Origins

    From Cursitor Doom@21:1/5 to All on Sat Apr 19 00:52:48 2025
    This report would never have seen the light of day if Joe Biden still
    occupied the Big Chair....

    https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/lab-leak-white-house-unveils-massive-report-true-origins-covid-19

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  • From Bill Sloman@21:1/5 to Cursitor Doom on Sat Apr 19 15:32:13 2025
    On 19/04/2025 9:52 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    This report would never have seen the light of day if Joe Biden still occupied the Big Chair....

    https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/lab-leak-white-house-unveils-massive-report-true-origins-covid-19

    Zero Hedge exists to publish lunatic right-wing conspiracy theories for
    the benefit of gullible twits like Cursitor Doom. I'm sure that Trump
    White House has got a stock of the kind of gormless goons who believe
    that kind of rubbish, as well as Trump's daft ideas about tariffs.

    Nobody sane takes them seriously, but Cursitor Doom isn't remotely sane.

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Gerhard Hoffmann@21:1/5 to All on Sat Apr 19 11:22:59 2025
    Am 19.04.25 um 01:52 schrieb Cursitor Doom:
    This report would never have seen the light of day if Joe Biden still occupied the Big Chair....

    https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/lab-leak-white-house-unveils-massive-report-true-origins-covid-19


    Heard on a marketplace in China:

    "I'll have two of these bats on a stick, and don't skimp
    on the sauce!"

    "But they're still uncooked inside!"

    "That won't be the end of the world!"

    Cheers, Gerhard

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  • From Cursitor Doom@21:1/5 to All on Sat Apr 19 11:18:19 2025
    On Sat, 19 Apr 2025 11:22:59 +0200, Gerhard Hoffmann <dk4xp@arcor.de>
    wrote:

    Am 19.04.25 um 01:52 schrieb Cursitor Doom:
    This report would never have seen the light of day if Joe Biden still
    occupied the Big Chair....

    https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/lab-leak-white-house-unveils-massive-report-true-origins-covid-19


    Heard on a marketplace in China:

    "I'll have two of these bats on a stick, and don't skimp
    on the sauce!"

    "But they're still uncooked inside!"

    "That won't be the end of the world!"

    Cheers, Gerhard

    HaHa! Very good. However, what actually happened was two Chinamen were
    sitting in a bar when they were approached by Anthony Fauci who warned
    them a great plague would soon be upon the world, but he could protect
    them with this vaccine he'd developed over the road in the Wuhan Lab.
    And those guys were the world's first (index) cases of Covid. Still,
    I'm sure Fauci meant well. ;->

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Bill Sloman@21:1/5 to Cursitor Doom on Sat Apr 19 21:30:11 2025
    On 19/04/2025 8:18 pm, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Sat, 19 Apr 2025 11:22:59 +0200, Gerhard Hoffmann <dk4xp@arcor.de>
    wrote:

    Am 19.04.25 um 01:52 schrieb Cursitor Doom:
    This report would never have seen the light of day if Joe Biden still
    occupied the Big Chair....

    https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/lab-leak-white-house-unveils-massive-report-true-origins-covid-19


    Heard on a marketplace in China:

    "I'll have two of these bats on a stick, and don't skimp
    on the sauce!"

    "But they're still uncooked inside!"

    "That won't be the end of the world!"

    Cheers, Gerhard

    HaHa! Very good. However, what actually happened was two Chinamen were sitting in a bar when they were approached by Anthony Fauci who warned
    them a great plague would soon be upon the world, but he could protect
    them with this vaccine he'd developed over the road in the Wuhan Lab.
    And those guys were the world's first (index) cases of Covid.

    Cursitor Doom leads the world in libelous invention.

    He's not worth suing because his lies are too implausible to be taken seriously.

    Still, I'm sure Fauci meant well. ;->

    Cursitor Doom is sure of a lot of things which better informed observers
    find improbable. His opinions about global atmospheric CO2 levels in the
    1890's do come to mind.

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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  • From bitrex@21:1/5 to Cursitor Doom on Sat Apr 19 11:44:53 2025
    On 4/18/2025 7:52 PM, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    This report would never have seen the light of day if Joe Biden still occupied the Big Chair....

    https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/lab-leak-white-house-unveils-massive-report-true-origins-covid-19

    LOL imagine how much it sucks to be whomever has to write 557 pages of
    nonsense for the benefit of kooks who won't read it, anyway.

    "ZeroHedge launched our premium service - and more recently, the ZH
    Store, where loyal readers routinely cause us to sell out of hats,
    shirts, knives, and the unsurprisingly popular ZeroHedge multitool"

    Sold to citizens who have a good dose of
    main-character-in-their-own-movie syndrome.

    "Moychendizing. Where the real money from the movie is made!"

    <https://youtu.be/fgRFQJCHcPw?si=5LDR_eT9pKaVAvMj&t=41>

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From john larkin@21:1/5 to bitrex on Sat Apr 19 09:08:19 2025
    On Sat, 19 Apr 2025 11:44:53 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

    On 4/18/2025 7:52 PM, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    This report would never have seen the light of day if Joe Biden still
    occupied the Big Chair....

    https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/lab-leak-white-house-unveils-massive-report-true-origins-covid-19

    LOL imagine how much it sucks to be whomever has to write 557 pages of >nonsense for the benefit of kooks who won't read it, anyway.

    "ZeroHedge launched our premium service - and more recently, the ZH
    Store, where loyal readers routinely cause us to sell out of hats,
    shirts, knives, and the unsurprisingly popular ZeroHedge multitool"

    Sold to citizens who have a good dose of
    main-character-in-their-own-movie syndrome.

    "Moychendizing. Where the real money from the movie is made!"

    <https://youtu.be/fgRFQJCHcPw?si=5LDR_eT9pKaVAvMj&t=41>

    Do you use hats, shirts, knives, or tools? Probably not.

    Do you think the covid epidemic just coincidentally started within
    walking distance of the Wuhan bat virus research lab? Probably so.

    Designed any interesting circuits lately? Post one.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Cursitor Doom@21:1/5 to bitrex on Sat Apr 19 21:00:39 2025
    On Sat, 19 Apr 2025 11:44:53 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

    On 4/18/2025 7:52 PM, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    This report would never have seen the light of day if Joe Biden still
    occupied the Big Chair....

    https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/lab-leak-white-house-unveils-massive-report-true-origins-covid-19

    LOL imagine how much it sucks to be whomever has to write 557 pages of >nonsense for the benefit of kooks who won't read it, anyway.

    "ZeroHedge launched our premium service - and more recently, the ZH
    Store, where loyal readers routinely cause us to sell out of hats,
    shirts, knives, and the unsurprisingly popular ZeroHedge multitool"

    Sold to citizens who have a good dose of
    main-character-in-their-own-movie syndrome.

    "Moychendizing. Where the real money from the movie is made!"

    <https://youtu.be/fgRFQJCHcPw?si=5LDR_eT9pKaVAvMj&t=41>

    Scott all you like. The plain fact is the account on the ZH site is
    true. I remember it all unraveling at the time. ZH broke the story and
    were immediately targeted by all the usual suspects, keen to
    obliterate the culpability of Fauci and the CCP. All good cronies
    sticking together as ever.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From bitrex@21:1/5 to Cursitor Doom on Sat Apr 19 17:34:20 2025
    On 4/19/2025 4:00 PM, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Sat, 19 Apr 2025 11:44:53 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

    On 4/18/2025 7:52 PM, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    This report would never have seen the light of day if Joe Biden still
    occupied the Big Chair....

    https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/lab-leak-white-house-unveils-massive-report-true-origins-covid-19

    LOL imagine how much it sucks to be whomever has to write 557 pages of
    nonsense for the benefit of kooks who won't read it, anyway.

    "ZeroHedge launched our premium service - and more recently, the ZH
    Store, where loyal readers routinely cause us to sell out of hats,
    shirts, knives, and the unsurprisingly popular ZeroHedge multitool"

    Sold to citizens who have a good dose of
    main-character-in-their-own-movie syndrome.

    "Moychendizing. Where the real money from the movie is made!"

    <https://youtu.be/fgRFQJCHcPw?si=5LDR_eT9pKaVAvMj&t=41>

    Scott all you like. The plain fact is the account on the ZH site is
    true. I remember it all unraveling at the time. ZH broke the story and
    were immediately targeted by all the usual suspects, keen to
    obliterate the culpability of Fauci and the CCP. All good cronies
    sticking together as ever.

    Yeah, if they had any real evidence of anything they'd find someone to
    charge with _something_.

    My guess is they have fuck all of substance, so they just talk and
    deport random El Salvadoran nobodies who can't afford $10 million worth
    of attorneys. The faithful don't know or care about the difference, anyway.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From bitrex@21:1/5 to Cursitor Doom on Sat Apr 19 17:29:33 2025
    On 4/19/2025 4:00 PM, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Sat, 19 Apr 2025 11:44:53 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

    On 4/18/2025 7:52 PM, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    This report would never have seen the light of day if Joe Biden still
    occupied the Big Chair....

    https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/lab-leak-white-house-unveils-massive-report-true-origins-covid-19

    LOL imagine how much it sucks to be whomever has to write 557 pages of
    nonsense for the benefit of kooks who won't read it, anyway.

    "ZeroHedge launched our premium service - and more recently, the ZH
    Store, where loyal readers routinely cause us to sell out of hats,
    shirts, knives, and the unsurprisingly popular ZeroHedge multitool"

    Sold to citizens who have a good dose of
    main-character-in-their-own-movie syndrome.

    "Moychendizing. Where the real money from the movie is made!"

    <https://youtu.be/fgRFQJCHcPw?si=5LDR_eT9pKaVAvMj&t=41>

    Scott all you like. The plain fact is the account on the ZH site is
    true. I remember it all unraveling at the time. ZH broke the story and
    were immediately targeted by all the usual suspects, keen to
    obliterate the culpability of Fauci and the CCP. All good cronies
    sticking together as ever.

    Yeah, if they had any real evidence of anything they'd find someone to
    charge with _something_.

    My guess is they have fuck all, so they just talk and deport random El Salvadoran nobodies who can't afford $10 million worth of attorneys.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Bill Sloman@21:1/5 to john larkin on Sun Apr 20 15:15:17 2025
    On 20/04/2025 2:08 am, john larkin wrote:
    On Sat, 19 Apr 2025 11:44:53 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

    On 4/18/2025 7:52 PM, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    This report would never have seen the light of day if Joe Biden still
    occupied the Big Chair....

    https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/lab-leak-white-house-unveils-massive-report-true-origins-covid-19

    LOL imagine how much it sucks to be whomever has to write 557 pages of
    nonsense for the benefit of kooks who won't read it, anyway.

    "ZeroHedge launched our premium service - and more recently, the ZH
    Store, where loyal readers routinely cause us to sell out of hats,
    shirts, knives, and the unsurprisingly popular ZeroHedge multitool"

    Sold to citizens who have a good dose of
    main-character-in-their-own-movie syndrome.

    "Moychendizing. Where the real money from the movie is made!"

    <https://youtu.be/fgRFQJCHcPw?si=5LDR_eT9pKaVAvMj&t=41>

    Do you use hats, shirts, knives, or tools? Probably not.

    Do you think the covid epidemic just coincidentally started within
    walking distance of the Wuhan bat virus research lab? Probably so.

    The Wuhan bat virus research lab has proper biosecurity. It's highly
    unlikely that anything would escape from it. The Wuhan wet market sold
    bush meat - including bats - under the counter, and that's where the
    epidemic seems to have started. It doesn't have any biosecurity at all.
    Designed any interesting circuits lately? Post one.

    John Larkin can only evolve his own circuits by a process of trial and
    error and is desperate to find original circuits that he can tweak for
    his own customers.

    The kind of insight that lets people design circuits for a particular
    purpose is quite beyond him - I don't think that he even realises that
    it can exist.

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Bill Sloman@21:1/5 to Cursitor Doom on Sun Apr 20 15:21:42 2025
    On 20/04/2025 6:00 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Sat, 19 Apr 2025 11:44:53 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

    On 4/18/2025 7:52 PM, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    This report would never have seen the light of day if Joe Biden still
    occupied the Big Chair....

    https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/lab-leak-white-house-unveils-massive-report-true-origins-covid-19

    LOL imagine how much it sucks to be whomever has to write 557 pages of
    nonsense for the benefit of kooks who won't read it, anyway.

    "ZeroHedge launched our premium service - and more recently, the ZH
    Store, where loyal readers routinely cause us to sell out of hats,
    shirts, knives, and the unsurprisingly popular ZeroHedge multitool"

    Sold to citizens who have a good dose of
    main-character-in-their-own-movie syndrome.

    "Moychendizing. Where the real money from the movie is made!"

    <https://youtu.be/fgRFQJCHcPw?si=5LDR_eT9pKaVAvMj&t=41>

    Scott all you like. The plain fact is the account on the ZH site is
    true.

    Which is to say it is something that Cursitor Doom wants to believe.

    I remember it all unraveling at the time. ZH broke the story and
    were immediately targeted by all the usual suspects, keen to
    obliterate the culpability of Fauci and the CCP. All good cronies
    sticking together as ever.

    It was always nonsense, but politically convenient nonsense for Trump's anti-Chinese clown car. Cursitor Doom is pig-ignorant but he does
    recognise his kind implausible malicious nonsense when he see it.

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Cursitor Doom@21:1/5 to bitrex on Sun Apr 20 08:55:25 2025
    On Sat, 19 Apr 2025 17:29:33 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

    On 4/19/2025 4:00 PM, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Sat, 19 Apr 2025 11:44:53 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

    On 4/18/2025 7:52 PM, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    This report would never have seen the light of day if Joe Biden still
    occupied the Big Chair....

    https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/lab-leak-white-house-unveils-massive-report-true-origins-covid-19

    LOL imagine how much it sucks to be whomever has to write 557 pages of
    nonsense for the benefit of kooks who won't read it, anyway.

    "ZeroHedge launched our premium service - and more recently, the ZH
    Store, where loyal readers routinely cause us to sell out of hats,
    shirts, knives, and the unsurprisingly popular ZeroHedge multitool"

    Sold to citizens who have a good dose of
    main-character-in-their-own-movie syndrome.

    "Moychendizing. Where the real money from the movie is made!"

    <https://youtu.be/fgRFQJCHcPw?si=5LDR_eT9pKaVAvMj&t=41>

    Scott all you like. The plain fact is the account on the ZH site is
    true. I remember it all unraveling at the time. ZH broke the story and
    were immediately targeted by all the usual suspects, keen to
    obliterate the culpability of Fauci and the CCP. All good cronies
    sticking together as ever.

    Yeah, if they had any real evidence of anything they'd find someone to
    charge with _something_.

    It'll come in time. Remember you didn't have a president worthy of the
    name until only just over 3 months ago and quite understandably he's
    had plenty of more pressing things to deal with first.


    My guess is they have fuck all, so they just talk and deport random El >Salvadoran nobodies who can't afford $10 million worth of attorneys.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Gerhard Hoffmann@21:1/5 to All on Sun Apr 20 10:47:00 2025
    Am 20.04.25 um 09:55 schrieb Cursitor Doom:
    On Sat, 19 Apr 2025 17:29:33 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

    Yeah, if they had any real evidence of anything they'd find someone to
    charge with _something_.

    It'll come in time. Remember you didn't have a president worthy of the
    name until only just over 3 months ago and quite understandably he's
    had plenty of more pressing things to deal with first.

    Like renaming the gulf of Mexico? Or expelling the Palestinians to
    make place for some casinos? pretty casinos, very pretty casinos?
    With TRUMPET in big golden capital letters on them, pretty letters,
    very very pretty letters?

    They don't have a president, they have a king wannabe.
    And that king has no clothes. Can you imagine DT nekkid?
    Let alone someone kissing his wrinkled arse?
    aaaargh....

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Gerhard Hoffmann@21:1/5 to All on Sun Apr 20 10:18:41 2025
    Am 20.04.25 um 07:21 schrieb Bill Sloman:


    It was always nonsense, but politically convenient nonsense for Trump's anti-Chinese clown car.

    Reminds at the Kansas flu which was conveniently renamed
    Spanish flu. What, you dare to blame US? There were enough
    soldiers who did not survive the ride on the troop carrier
    across the pond to .eu.
    Spain never had anything to do with this, other than having
    a free press in war time and being able to report without
    censorship. Spain spread the news, not the flu.

    Cursitor Dumb:
    they were approached by Anthony Fauci who warned
    them a great plague would soon be upon the world, but he
    could protect them with this vaccine he'd developed over
    the road in the Wuhan Lab.
    And those guys were the world's first (index) cases of Covid.
    Still, I'm sure Fauci meant well. ;->


    Spending millions to develop a vaccine against a virus that
    has shown no sign of danger up to then? Talk about brain damage?

    The vaccines that really worked came from Europe. The US are just
    smashing their own scientific foundation.
    Don't expect excessive compassion.

    Gerhard

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Bill Sloman@21:1/5 to Cursitor Doom on Mon Apr 21 01:03:29 2025
    On 20/04/2025 5:55 pm, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Sat, 19 Apr 2025 17:29:33 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

    On 4/19/2025 4:00 PM, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Sat, 19 Apr 2025 11:44:53 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

    On 4/18/2025 7:52 PM, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    This report would never have seen the light of day if Joe Biden still >>>>> occupied the Big Chair....

    https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/lab-leak-white-house-unveils-massive-report-true-origins-covid-19

    LOL imagine how much it sucks to be whomever has to write 557 pages of >>>> nonsense for the benefit of kooks who won't read it, anyway.

    "ZeroHedge launched our premium service - and more recently, the ZH
    Store, where loyal readers routinely cause us to sell out of hats,
    shirts, knives, and the unsurprisingly popular ZeroHedge multitool"

    Sold to citizens who have a good dose of
    main-character-in-their-own-movie syndrome.

    "Moychendizing. Where the real money from the movie is made!"

    <https://youtu.be/fgRFQJCHcPw?si=5LDR_eT9pKaVAvMj&t=41>

    Scott all you like. The plain fact is the account on the ZH site is
    true. I remember it all unraveling at the time. ZH broke the story and
    were immediately targeted by all the usual suspects, keen to
    obliterate the culpability of Fauci and the CCP. All good cronies
    sticking together as ever.

    Yeah, if they had any real evidence of anything they'd find someone to
    charge with _something_.

    It'll come in time.

    Fat chance.

    Remember you didn't have a president worthy of the
    name until only just over 3 months ago and quite understandably he's
    had plenty of more pressing things to deal with first.

    Donald Trump isn't any kind of "president'. He wasn't from 2016-2020,
    and his initial performance suggests the he is still the same petulant
    half-wit he was then, but more skilled in evading the people who try to
    stop his inanities messing up the USA and the world (which does still
    seem to take up a lot of his time).

    It isn't his business to see that due procedure is observed when
    deporting people he has decided are dangerous criminals, but his clown
    car seems to have got in the way of the way the people who should have
    done it.

    My guess is they have fuck all, so they just talk and deport random El
    Salvadoran nobodies who can't afford $10 million worth of attorneys.

    It's probably worse - they don't seem realise that they have fuck all.
    They are acting as judge and jury, when they are the kind of people any sensible attorney would make sure never got empanelled on any kind of
    real jury

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Cursitor Doom@21:1/5 to All on Sun Apr 20 23:43:37 2025
    On Sun, 20 Apr 2025 10:47:00 +0200, Gerhard Hoffmann <dk4xp@arcor.de>
    wrote:

    Am 20.04.25 um 09:55 schrieb Cursitor Doom:
    On Sat, 19 Apr 2025 17:29:33 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

    Yeah, if they had any real evidence of anything they'd find someone to
    charge with _something_.

    It'll come in time. Remember you didn't have a president worthy of the
    name until only just over 3 months ago and quite understandably he's
    had plenty of more pressing things to deal with first.

    Like renaming the gulf of Mexico? Or expelling the Palestinians to
    make place for some casinos? pretty casinos, very pretty casinos?
    With TRUMPET in big golden capital letters on them, pretty letters,
    very very pretty letters?

    They don't have a president, they have a king wannabe.
    And that king has no clothes. Can you imagine DT nekkid?
    Let alone someone kissing his wrinkled arse?
    aaaargh....

    Well no one's perfect. And you can't take anything he says too
    literally as he does have a whacky sense of humor as well know.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From bitrex@21:1/5 to Cursitor Doom on Sun Apr 20 18:39:46 2025
    On 4/20/2025 3:55 AM, Cursitor Doom wrote:

    Scott all you like. The plain fact is the account on the ZH site is
    true. I remember it all unraveling at the time. ZH broke the story and
    were immediately targeted by all the usual suspects, keen to
    obliterate the culpability of Fauci and the CCP. All good cronies
    sticking together as ever.

    Yeah, if they had any real evidence of anything they'd find someone to
    charge with _something_.

    It'll come in time. Remember you didn't have a president worthy of the
    name until only just over 3 months ago and quite understandably he's
    had plenty of more pressing things to deal with first

    I've read a substantial portion of the Slack messages and emails
    referenced in this article:

    <https://archive.is/no4P6>

    talk about yawn-town.

    Seems like Congress discovered academics employed by the CDC under the
    first Trump administration can believe stupid things as well as anyone.
    They must be sorta smart though they seemed able to confine being dumb
    to their Slack messages and not tell everyone who they thought would
    listen (whether the victim felt like listening, or not.)
    That's a very difficult skill for many people to master it would
    probably take like 15 years of academic study for the average American
    to develop it.

    "The Republican subcommittee deemed it a co-ordinated 'attempt to kill
    the lab leak theory'”.

    Hey wait a minute I thought there was going to be evidence of a Chinese
    lab leak here but I guess the best they could produce was evidence of "a conspiracy to kill the lab leak theory" which isn't quite the same thing.

    Producing actual evidence of the former might require learning Mandarin
    for a start and there's almost nobody in all of Congress, much less the
    R side of the aisle, equipped for that task.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From bitrex@21:1/5 to john larkin on Sun Apr 20 18:48:12 2025
    On 4/19/2025 12:08 PM, john larkin wrote:
    On Sat, 19 Apr 2025 11:44:53 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

    On 4/18/2025 7:52 PM, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    This report would never have seen the light of day if Joe Biden still
    occupied the Big Chair....

    https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/lab-leak-white-house-unveils-massive-report-true-origins-covid-19

    LOL imagine how much it sucks to be whomever has to write 557 pages of
    nonsense for the benefit of kooks who won't read it, anyway.

    "ZeroHedge launched our premium service - and more recently, the ZH
    Store, where loyal readers routinely cause us to sell out of hats,
    shirts, knives, and the unsurprisingly popular ZeroHedge multitool"

    Sold to citizens who have a good dose of
    main-character-in-their-own-movie syndrome.

    "Moychendizing. Where the real money from the movie is made!"

    <https://youtu.be/fgRFQJCHcPw?si=5LDR_eT9pKaVAvMj&t=41>

    Do you use hats, shirts, knives, or tools? Probably not.

    Do you think the covid epidemic just coincidentally started within
    walking distance of the Wuhan bat virus research lab? Probably so.


    So I'm supposed to believe the proximal cause was a lab leak not only of
    a known-dangerous virus, but very likely a _genetically engineered_ and weaponized virus designed by an antagonistic foreign power...

    ...and simultaneously the correct response for American leadership was
    to do _nothing_? Let that plausible rogue bio-weapon "rip" through
    society, don't have lock downs or implement any fashion of civil
    defense, and just ensure the restaurants stay open at all costs?

    Right-wing conspiracy theories are a lot to unpack. There's perhaps
    sensible 20-20 hindsight conversations to have about some of these
    topics in isolation, but I don't know where to begin with the aggregate.

    And that they don't make a lot of sense when taken in aggregate doesn't
    seem to much phase the MAGA-religious, who only seem to believe them in aggregate. They are matters of faith & devotion.


    Designed any interesting circuits lately? Post one.

    I like getting paid for designs mostly these days, I did do a multi-week microwave seminar last year. If you want any of those crazy couplers or
    gap filter-things designed I'm your guy!

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From bitrex@21:1/5 to john larkin on Sun Apr 20 18:51:12 2025
    On 4/19/2025 12:08 PM, john larkin wrote:
    On Sat, 19 Apr 2025 11:44:53 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

    On 4/18/2025 7:52 PM, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    This report would never have seen the light of day if Joe Biden still
    occupied the Big Chair....

    https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/lab-leak-white-house-unveils-massive-report-true-origins-covid-19

    LOL imagine how much it sucks to be whomever has to write 557 pages of
    nonsense for the benefit of kooks who won't read it, anyway.

    "ZeroHedge launched our premium service - and more recently, the ZH
    Store, where loyal readers routinely cause us to sell out of hats,
    shirts, knives, and the unsurprisingly popular ZeroHedge multitool"

    Sold to citizens who have a good dose of
    main-character-in-their-own-movie syndrome.

    "Moychendizing. Where the real money from the movie is made!"

    <https://youtu.be/fgRFQJCHcPw?si=5LDR_eT9pKaVAvMj&t=41>

    Do you use hats, shirts, knives, or tools? Probably not.

    Do you think the covid epidemic just coincidentally started within
    walking distance of the Wuhan bat virus research lab? Probably so.

    So I'm supposed to believe the proximal cause was a lab leak not only of
    a known-dangerous virus, but very likely a _genetically engineered_ and weaponized virus designed by an antagonistic foreign power...

    ...and simultaneously the correct response for American leadership was
    to do _nothing_? Let that plausible rogue bio-weapon "rip" through
    society, don't have lock downs or implement any fashion of civil
    defense, and just ensure the restaurants stay open at all costs?

    Right-wing conspiracy theories are a lot to unpack. There's perhaps
    sensible 20-20 hindsight conversations to have about some of these
    topics in isolation, but I don't know where to begin with the aggregate.

    And that they don't make a lot of sense when taken in aggregate doesn't
    seem to much phase the MAGA-religious, who only seem to believe them in aggregate. They are matters of faith & devotion.

    Designed any interesting circuits lately? Post one.

    I like getting paid for designs mostly these days, I did do a multi-week microwave seminar late last year. If you want any of those crazy
    couplers or gap filter-things designed I'm your guy!

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From bitrex@21:1/5 to Cursitor Doom on Sun Apr 20 18:58:10 2025
    On 4/20/2025 6:43 PM, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Sun, 20 Apr 2025 10:47:00 +0200, Gerhard Hoffmann <dk4xp@arcor.de>
    wrote:

    Am 20.04.25 um 09:55 schrieb Cursitor Doom:
    On Sat, 19 Apr 2025 17:29:33 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

    Yeah, if they had any real evidence of anything they'd find someone to >>>> charge with _something_.

    It'll come in time. Remember you didn't have a president worthy of the
    name until only just over 3 months ago and quite understandably he's
    had plenty of more pressing things to deal with first.

    Like renaming the gulf of Mexico? Or expelling the Palestinians to
    make place for some casinos? pretty casinos, very pretty casinos?
    With TRUMPET in big golden capital letters on them, pretty letters,
    very very pretty letters?

    They don't have a president, they have a king wannabe.
    And that king has no clothes. Can you imagine DT nekkid?
    Let alone someone kissing his wrinkled arse?
    aaaargh....

    Well no one's perfect. And you can't take anything he says too
    literally as he does have a whacky sense of humor as well know.

    2024 election summary: Half the people who voted for Trump voted for him because they thought he won't do things he said he will, and half the
    people who voted for Harris voted for her because they thought she would
    do things she said she wouldn't.

    That is to say a lot of citizens voted based on emotion, and the only
    crazier people to show up to vote than the people voting on emotion was
    anyone trying to vote on logic.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From john larkin@21:1/5 to bitrex on Sun Apr 20 18:33:04 2025
    On Sun, 20 Apr 2025 18:48:12 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

    On 4/19/2025 12:08 PM, john larkin wrote:
    On Sat, 19 Apr 2025 11:44:53 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

    On 4/18/2025 7:52 PM, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    This report would never have seen the light of day if Joe Biden still
    occupied the Big Chair....

    https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/lab-leak-white-house-unveils-massive-report-true-origins-covid-19

    LOL imagine how much it sucks to be whomever has to write 557 pages of
    nonsense for the benefit of kooks who won't read it, anyway.

    "ZeroHedge launched our premium service - and more recently, the ZH
    Store, where loyal readers routinely cause us to sell out of hats,
    shirts, knives, and the unsurprisingly popular ZeroHedge multitool"

    Sold to citizens who have a good dose of
    main-character-in-their-own-movie syndrome.

    "Moychendizing. Where the real money from the movie is made!"

    <https://youtu.be/fgRFQJCHcPw?si=5LDR_eT9pKaVAvMj&t=41>

    Do you use hats, shirts, knives, or tools? Probably not.

    Do you think the covid epidemic just coincidentally started within
    walking distance of the Wuhan bat virus research lab? Probably so.


    So I'm supposed to believe the proximal cause was a lab leak not only of
    a known-dangerous virus, but very likely a _genetically engineered_ and >weaponized virus designed by an antagonistic foreign power...

    It hit Chinese people, and wrecked the Chinese economy, so it wasn't
    any useful sort of weapon. It was a lab mistake.

    It's not the first nasty virus brewed in a lab that had bad protocols.


    ...and simultaneously the correct response for American leadership was
    to do _nothing_? Let that plausible rogue bio-weapon "rip" through
    society, don't have lock downs or implement any fashion of civil
    defense, and just ensure the restaurants stay open at all costs?

    I recall a lot of stuff being done. Lockdowns, distancing, masking
    several vaccines developed.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Bill Sloman@21:1/5 to john larkin on Mon Apr 21 13:56:20 2025
    On 21/04/2025 11:33 am, john larkin wrote:
    On Sun, 20 Apr 2025 18:48:12 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

    On 4/19/2025 12:08 PM, john larkin wrote:
    On Sat, 19 Apr 2025 11:44:53 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

    On 4/18/2025 7:52 PM, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    This report would never have seen the light of day if Joe Biden still >>>>> occupied the Big Chair....

    https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/lab-leak-white-house-unveils-massive-report-true-origins-covid-19

    LOL imagine how much it sucks to be whomever has to write 557 pages of >>>> nonsense for the benefit of kooks who won't read it, anyway.

    "ZeroHedge launched our premium service - and more recently, the ZH
    Store, where loyal readers routinely cause us to sell out of hats,
    shirts, knives, and the unsurprisingly popular ZeroHedge multitool"

    Sold to citizens who have a good dose of
    main-character-in-their-own-movie syndrome.

    "Moychendizing. Where the real money from the movie is made!"

    <https://youtu.be/fgRFQJCHcPw?si=5LDR_eT9pKaVAvMj&t=41>

    Do you use hats, shirts, knives, or tools? Probably not.

    Do you think the covid epidemic just coincidentally started within
    walking distance of the Wuhan bat virus research lab? Probably so.


    So I'm supposed to believe the proximal cause was a lab leak not only of
    a known-dangerous virus, but very likely a _genetically engineered_ and
    weaponized virus designed by an antagonistic foreign power...

    It hit Chinese people, and wrecked the Chinese economy, so it wasn't
    any useful sort of weapon. It was a lab mistake.

    It would have been a lab mistake if it had been created in a lab, for
    which there's no actual evidence at all

    It's not the first nasty virus brewed in a lab that had bad protocols.

    Name one. Some virus labs still preserve the small-pox virus, and one
    worker in a such a lab actually screwed up badly enough to get
    small-pox, but it didn't start an epidemic.

    There are lots of nasty viruses around to test the protocols. None of
    them seem to have escaped.

    ...and simultaneously the correct response for American leadership was
    to do _nothing_? Let that plausible rogue bio-weapon "rip" through
    society, don't have lock downs or implement any fashion of civil
    defense, and just ensure the restaurants stay open at all costs?

    I recall a lot of stuff being done. Lockdowns, distancing, masking
    several vaccines developed.

    The vaccines were developed pretty much as soon as the Covid-19 genome
    was released by Chinese researcher. The US government didn't have
    anything to do with that - I think that pretty much all the initial work
    was done in Europe, though volume production did move to the US early on
    for some of them. Trump tried to buy into that around May 2020, with
    limited success.

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Bill Sloman@21:1/5 to bitrex on Mon Apr 21 14:14:27 2025
    On 21/04/2025 8:58 am, bitrex wrote:
    On 4/20/2025 6:43 PM, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Sun, 20 Apr 2025 10:47:00 +0200, Gerhard Hoffmann <dk4xp@arcor.de>
    wrote:

    Am 20.04.25 um 09:55 schrieb Cursitor Doom:
    On Sat, 19 Apr 2025 17:29:33 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

    Yeah, if they had any real evidence of anything they'd find someone to >>>>> charge with _something_.

    It'll come in time. Remember you didn't have a president worthy of the >>>> name until only just over 3 months ago and quite understandably he's
    had plenty of more pressing things to deal with first.

    Like renaming the gulf of Mexico? Or expelling the Palestinians to
    make place for some casinos? pretty casinos, very pretty casinos?
    With TRUMPET in big golden capital letters on them, pretty letters,
    very very pretty letters?

    They don't have a president, they have a king wannabe.
    And that king has no clothes. Can you imagine DT nekkid?
    Let alone someone kissing his wrinkled arse?
    aaaargh....

    Well no one's perfect. And you can't take anything he says too
    literally as he does have a whacky sense of humor as well know.

    2024 election summary: Half the people who voted for Trump voted for him because they thought he won't do things he said he will, and half the
    people who voted for Harris voted for her because they thought she would
    do things she said she wouldn't.

    This isn't any kind of summary. It's Cursitor Doom's demented idea of
    what went on.

    That is to say a lot of citizens voted based on emotion, and the only
    crazier people to show up to vote than the people voting on emotion was anyone trying to vote on logic.

    There's nothing crazy about using logic to work out who you will vote
    for. The US problem is that the political parties spread out a lot of misinformation - election propaganda - and a lot of the electorate is
    too poorly educated to reject the misinformation.

    Donald Trump is remarkably good at putting the kind of emotional wrapper
    on his misinformation that makes it attractive to the less well-educated
    - people like Cursitor Doom and John Larkin - and the US public has been
    hit by a lot of nonsense over the years - Joe McCarthy and Ronald Regan
    come mind. and George W. Bush and his non-existent weapons of mass
    destruction in Irak. They haven't learned as much scepticism as they
    should have. Cursitor Doom is only sceptical about correct information -
    if it isn't implausible he isn't interested.

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Cursitor Doom@21:1/5 to bitrex on Mon Apr 21 13:19:45 2025
    On Sun, 20 Apr 2025 18:51:12 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

    On 4/19/2025 12:08 PM, john larkin wrote:
    On Sat, 19 Apr 2025 11:44:53 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

    On 4/18/2025 7:52 PM, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    This report would never have seen the light of day if Joe Biden still
    occupied the Big Chair....

    https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/lab-leak-white-house-unveils-massive-report-true-origins-covid-19

    LOL imagine how much it sucks to be whomever has to write 557 pages of
    nonsense for the benefit of kooks who won't read it, anyway.

    "ZeroHedge launched our premium service - and more recently, the ZH
    Store, where loyal readers routinely cause us to sell out of hats,
    shirts, knives, and the unsurprisingly popular ZeroHedge multitool"

    Sold to citizens who have a good dose of
    main-character-in-their-own-movie syndrome.

    "Moychendizing. Where the real money from the movie is made!"

    <https://youtu.be/fgRFQJCHcPw?si=5LDR_eT9pKaVAvMj&t=41>

    Do you use hats, shirts, knives, or tools? Probably not.

    Do you think the covid epidemic just coincidentally started within
    walking distance of the Wuhan bat virus research lab? Probably so.

    So I'm supposed to believe the proximal cause was a lab leak not only of
    a known-dangerous virus, but very likely a _genetically engineered_ and >weaponized virus designed by an antagonistic foreign power...

    If you had an ounce of sense, that's what you would accept.

    ...and simultaneously the correct response for American leadership was
    to do _nothing_? Let that plausible rogue bio-weapon "rip" through
    society, don't have lock downs or implement any fashion of civil
    defense, and just ensure the restaurants stay open at all costs?

    'Let it rip' was the correct approach. The UK for one is still paying
    the price for their government's paternalistic approach to the
    outbreak. Paying people to do nothing for months on end! Great idea
    that was.


    Right-wing conspiracy theories are a lot to unpack. There's perhaps
    sensible 20-20 hindsight conversations to have about some of these
    topics in isolation, but I don't know where to begin with the aggregate.

    And that they don't make a lot of sense when taken in aggregate doesn't
    seem to much phase the MAGA-religious, who only seem to believe them in >aggregate. They are matters of faith & devotion.

    Designed any interesting circuits lately? Post one.

    I like getting paid for designs mostly these days, I did do a multi-week >microwave seminar late last year. If you want any of those crazy
    couplers or gap filter-things designed I'm your guy!

    Up to what frequency?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Cursitor Doom@21:1/5 to bitrex on Mon Apr 21 13:23:33 2025
    On Sun, 20 Apr 2025 18:39:46 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

    On 4/20/2025 3:55 AM, Cursitor Doom wrote:

    Scott all you like. The plain fact is the account on the ZH site is
    true. I remember it all unraveling at the time. ZH broke the story and >>>> were immediately targeted by all the usual suspects, keen to
    obliterate the culpability of Fauci and the CCP. All good cronies
    sticking together as ever.

    Yeah, if they had any real evidence of anything they'd find someone to
    charge with _something_.

    It'll come in time. Remember you didn't have a president worthy of the
    name until only just over 3 months ago and quite understandably he's
    had plenty of more pressing things to deal with first

    I've read a substantial portion of the Slack messages and emails
    referenced in this article:

    <https://archive.is/no4P6>

    talk about yawn-town.

    Seems like Congress discovered academics employed by the CDC under the
    first Trump administration can believe stupid things as well as anyone.
    They must be sorta smart though they seemed able to confine being dumb
    to their Slack messages and not tell everyone who they thought would
    listen (whether the victim felt like listening, or not.)
    That's a very difficult skill for many people to master it would
    probably take like 15 years of academic study for the average American
    to develop it.

    "The Republican subcommittee deemed it a co-ordinated 'attempt to kill
    the lab leak theory'.

    Hey wait a minute I thought there was going to be evidence of a Chinese
    lab leak here but I guess the best they could produce was evidence of "a >conspiracy to kill the lab leak theory" which isn't quite the same thing.

    Producing actual evidence of the former might require learning Mandarin
    for a start and there's almost nobody in all of Congress, much less the
    R side of the aisle, equipped for that task.

    So you don't think there was anything suspicious about the CCP denying
    the delegation from the WHO access to the bat virus lab for a
    fortnight whilst they removed all the evidence you're now crowing
    about the absence of?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Bill Sloman@21:1/5 to Cursitor Doom on Tue Apr 22 00:56:51 2025
    On 21/04/2025 10:23 pm, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Sun, 20 Apr 2025 18:39:46 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

    On 4/20/2025 3:55 AM, Cursitor Doom wrote:

    <snip>

    So you don't think there was anything suspicious about the CCP denying
    the delegation from the WHO access to the bat virus lab for a
    fortnight whilst they removed all the evidence you're now crowing
    about the absence of?

    The imaginary evidence that you seem to want to believe in.

    The Chinese Communist Party would have been documenting everything so
    that when Trump's stooges got into the lab and tried to plant "evidence"
    they be able to show that it had been planted.

    With fantasists like you around, it's hard to prove a negative - you
    just imagine one more thoroughly implausible way in which they might
    have cheated.

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From john larkin@21:1/5 to All on Mon Apr 21 08:26:40 2025
    On Mon, 21 Apr 2025 13:19:45 +0100, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com>
    wrote:

    On Sun, 20 Apr 2025 18:51:12 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

    On 4/19/2025 12:08 PM, john larkin wrote:
    On Sat, 19 Apr 2025 11:44:53 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

    On 4/18/2025 7:52 PM, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    This report would never have seen the light of day if Joe Biden still >>>>> occupied the Big Chair....

    https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/lab-leak-white-house-unveils-massive-report-true-origins-covid-19

    LOL imagine how much it sucks to be whomever has to write 557 pages of >>>> nonsense for the benefit of kooks who won't read it, anyway.

    "ZeroHedge launched our premium service - and more recently, the ZH
    Store, where loyal readers routinely cause us to sell out of hats,
    shirts, knives, and the unsurprisingly popular ZeroHedge multitool"

    Sold to citizens who have a good dose of
    main-character-in-their-own-movie syndrome.

    "Moychendizing. Where the real money from the movie is made!"

    <https://youtu.be/fgRFQJCHcPw?si=5LDR_eT9pKaVAvMj&t=41>

    Do you use hats, shirts, knives, or tools? Probably not.

    Do you think the covid epidemic just coincidentally started within
    walking distance of the Wuhan bat virus research lab? Probably so.

    So I'm supposed to believe the proximal cause was a lab leak not only of
    a known-dangerous virus, but very likely a _genetically engineered_ and >>weaponized virus designed by an antagonistic foreign power...

    If you had an ounce of sense, that's what you would accept.

    ...and simultaneously the correct response for American leadership was
    to do _nothing_? Let that plausible rogue bio-weapon "rip" through
    society, don't have lock downs or implement any fashion of civil
    defense, and just ensure the restaurants stay open at all costs?

    'Let it rip' was the correct approach. The UK for one is still paying
    the price for their government's paternalistic approach to the
    outbreak. Paying people to do nothing for months on end! Great idea
    that was.

    The masking thing was silly. As were shutdowns.

    Vaccines might have made sense for older people, but seem to have been
    net harmful to younger folks.

    A lot of money was made on the vaccines.



    Right-wing conspiracy theories are a lot to unpack. There's perhaps >>sensible 20-20 hindsight conversations to have about some of these
    topics in isolation, but I don't know where to begin with the aggregate.

    And that they don't make a lot of sense when taken in aggregate doesn't >>seem to much phase the MAGA-religious, who only seem to believe them in >>aggregate. They are matters of faith & devotion.

    Designed any interesting circuits lately? Post one.

    I like getting paid for designs mostly these days, I did do a multi-week >>microwave seminar late last year. If you want any of those crazy
    couplers or gap filter-things designed I'm your guy!

    Up to what frequency?

    Sine waves are boring.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Cursitor Doom@21:1/5 to All on Mon Apr 21 22:23:03 2025
    On Mon, 21 Apr 2025 08:26:40 -0700, john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com>
    wrote:

    [...]
    Sine waves are boring.

    Well, square waves give rise to lots of harmonics which can be useful.
    But what about triangles and sawtooths. Any interesting properies
    hidden away in those?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From john larkin@21:1/5 to All on Mon Apr 21 15:02:17 2025
    On Mon, 21 Apr 2025 22:23:03 +0100, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com>
    wrote:

    On Mon, 21 Apr 2025 08:26:40 -0700, john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com>
    wrote:

    [...]
    Sine waves are boring.

    Well, square waves give rise to lots of harmonics which can be useful.
    But what about triangles and sawtooths. Any interesting properies
    hidden away in those?

    Periodic waveforms are all boring. They just do the same thing, over
    and over.

    A complex pulse can do interesting things. Spin an airplane. Fuse deuterium-tritium. Trigger a megaton boom.

    I wish the world would move on from the slide rule and graph paper
    days, narrowband s-parameters and Smith charts and load pulls. We have computers now.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Bill Sloman@21:1/5 to john larkin on Tue Apr 22 15:06:19 2025
    On 22/04/2025 1:26 am, john larkin wrote:
    On Mon, 21 Apr 2025 13:19:45 +0100, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com>
    wrote:

    On Sun, 20 Apr 2025 18:51:12 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

    On 4/19/2025 12:08 PM, john larkin wrote:
    On Sat, 19 Apr 2025 11:44:53 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

    On 4/18/2025 7:52 PM, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    This report would never have seen the light of day if Joe Biden still >>>>>> occupied the Big Chair....

    https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/lab-leak-white-house-unveils-massive-report-true-origins-covid-19

    LOL imagine how much it sucks to be whomever has to write 557 pages of >>>>> nonsense for the benefit of kooks who won't read it, anyway.

    "ZeroHedge launched our premium service - and more recently, the ZH
    Store, where loyal readers routinely cause us to sell out of hats,
    shirts, knives, and the unsurprisingly popular ZeroHedge multitool"

    Sold to citizens who have a good dose of
    main-character-in-their-own-movie syndrome.

    "Moychendizing. Where the real money from the movie is made!"

    <https://youtu.be/fgRFQJCHcPw?si=5LDR_eT9pKaVAvMj&t=41>

    Do you use hats, shirts, knives, or tools? Probably not.

    Do you think the covid epidemic just coincidentally started within
    walking distance of the Wuhan bat virus research lab? Probably so.

    So I'm supposed to believe the proximal cause was a lab leak not only of >>> a known-dangerous virus, but very likely a _genetically engineered_ and
    weaponized virus designed by an antagonistic foreign power...

    If you had an ounce of sense, that's what you would accept.

    ...and simultaneously the correct response for American leadership was
    to do _nothing_? Let that plausible rogue bio-weapon "rip" through
    society, don't have lock downs or implement any fashion of civil
    defense, and just ensure the restaurants stay open at all costs?

    'Let it rip' was the correct approach. The UK for one is still paying
    the price for their government's paternalistic approach to the
    outbreak. Paying people to do nothing for months on end! Great idea
    that was.

    The masking thing was silly. As were shutdowns.

    It wasn't. In Australia, where it was taken seriously, it entirely
    killed off seasonal influenza.

    Vaccines might have made sense for older people, but seem to have been
    net harmful to younger folks.

    Vaccines made the Covid-19 virus less able to spread. They didn't stop infection - though they made it less likely - and when vaccinated people
    were infected they didn't stay infected for a long and were thus less
    likely to infect other people. If you want to stop an epidemic you need
    to vaccinate everybody you can to cut down the number of new infection
    produced by any single infected patient.

    Leaving out the younger and more numerous members of the target
    population probably doesn't do them any good at all - any harmful
    effects from the vaccine are swamped by the harmful effects of getting
    infected - and is bad for the older and more vulnerable members of the population. Australia got to 95% coverage, where America never got above
    83%.

    Australian Covid-19 deaths ended up at 937 per million, the US at 3642
    per million. England and France had a harder job - higher population
    density than Australia or the US - but still did better than the US at
    about 2500 deaths per million.

    A lot of money was made on the vaccines.

    As it should have been. They cost money to make and develop, and saved a
    lot of lives.

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Bill Sloman@21:1/5 to john larkin on Tue Apr 22 15:17:37 2025
    On 22/04/2025 8:02 am, john larkin wrote:
    On Mon, 21 Apr 2025 22:23:03 +0100, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com>
    wrote:

    On Mon, 21 Apr 2025 08:26:40 -0700, john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com>
    wrote:

    [...]
    Sine waves are boring.

    Well, square waves give rise to lots of harmonics which can be useful.
    But what about triangles and sawtooths. Any interesting properies
    hidden away in those?

    Periodic waveforms are all boring. They just do the same thing, over
    and over.

    A complex pulse can do interesting things. Spin an airplane. Fuse deuterium-tritium. Trigger a megaton boom.

    With the right effectors to translate the electrical waveform into the
    physical displacement of moving mass.

    I wish the world would move on from the slide rule and graph paper
    days, narrowband s-parameters and Smith charts and load pulls. We have computers now.

    But if you don't know enough to understand what the computer could be
    telling you, the computer is less helpful than it might be.

    The narrow road to comprehension is more easily negotiated with the
    right crutches. What worked in the historical past can still work today.
    There may be an easier route through more easily comprehended computer
    graphics but I've not seen any evidence to suggest that it has yet been
    found.

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From john larkin@21:1/5 to All on Tue Apr 22 09:49:03 2025
    On Tue, 22 Apr 2025 15:17:37 +1000, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>
    wrote:

    On 22/04/2025 8:02 am, john larkin wrote:
    On Mon, 21 Apr 2025 22:23:03 +0100, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com>
    wrote:

    On Mon, 21 Apr 2025 08:26:40 -0700, john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com>
    wrote:

    [...]
    Sine waves are boring.

    Well, square waves give rise to lots of harmonics which can be useful.
    But what about triangles and sawtooths. Any interesting properies
    hidden away in those?

    Periodic waveforms are all boring. They just do the same thing, over
    and over.

    A complex pulse can do interesting things. Spin an airplane. Fuse
    deuterium-tritium. Trigger a megaton boom.

    With the right effectors to translate the electrical waveform into the >physical displacement of moving mass.

    I wish the world would move on from the slide rule and graph paper
    days, narrowband s-parameters and Smith charts and load pulls. We have
    computers now.

    But if you don't know enough to understand what the computer could be
    telling you, the computer is less helpful than it might be.

    The narrow road to comprehension is more easily negotiated with the
    right crutches. What worked in the historical past can still work today. >There may be an easier route through more easily comprehended computer >graphics but I've not seen any evidence to suggest that it has yet been >found.

    Sloman is boring. He just does the same thing, over and over.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Cursitor Doom@21:1/5 to All on Tue Apr 22 22:02:32 2025
    On Mon, 21 Apr 2025 15:02:17 -0700, john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com>
    wrote:

    On Mon, 21 Apr 2025 22:23:03 +0100, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com>
    wrote:

    On Mon, 21 Apr 2025 08:26:40 -0700, john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> >>wrote:

    [...]
    Sine waves are boring.

    Well, square waves give rise to lots of harmonics which can be useful.
    But what about triangles and sawtooths. Any interesting properies
    hidden away in those?

    Periodic waveforms are all boring. They just do the same thing, over
    and over.

    A complex pulse can do interesting things. Spin an airplane. Fuse >deuterium-tritium. Trigger a megaton boom.

    I wish the world would move on from the slide rule and graph paper
    days, narrowband s-parameters and Smith charts and load pulls. We have >computers now.

    It's dumb *not* to use computers for the complicated and trap-ridden calculations relating to impedance transformations, filters and
    transmission lines. *However* if someone using computers for this
    purpose hasn't been schooled in the derivation of the calculations by
    learning how the Smith Chart was developed and how it got that scary,
    warped shape, then they're going to be too far abstracted from the
    underlying physics to be able to understand fully what's going on
    under the hood. And they'll be that much poorer for it. Like people
    who use rules-based calculus to solve problems because they have
    little understanding of the nuts and bolts of derivatives and
    integrals. Ask them to solve a new problem and they're lost!

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From john larkin@21:1/5 to All on Tue Apr 22 15:15:01 2025
    On Tue, 22 Apr 2025 22:02:32 +0100, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com>
    wrote:

    On Mon, 21 Apr 2025 15:02:17 -0700, john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com>
    wrote:

    On Mon, 21 Apr 2025 22:23:03 +0100, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com> >>wrote:

    On Mon, 21 Apr 2025 08:26:40 -0700, john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> >>>wrote:

    [...]
    Sine waves are boring.

    Well, square waves give rise to lots of harmonics which can be useful. >>>But what about triangles and sawtooths. Any interesting properies
    hidden away in those?

    Periodic waveforms are all boring. They just do the same thing, over
    and over.

    A complex pulse can do interesting things. Spin an airplane. Fuse >>deuterium-tritium. Trigger a megaton boom.

    I wish the world would move on from the slide rule and graph paper
    days, narrowband s-parameters and Smith charts and load pulls. We have >>computers now.

    It's dumb *not* to use computers for the complicated and trap-ridden >calculations relating to impedance transformations, filters and
    transmission lines. *However* if someone using computers for this
    purpose hasn't been schooled in the derivation of the calculations by >learning how the Smith Chart was developed and how it got that scary,
    warped shape, then they're going to be too far abstracted from the
    underlying physics to be able to understand fully what's going on
    under the hood. And they'll be that much poorer for it. Like people
    who use rules-based calculus to solve problems because they have
    little understanding of the nuts and bolts of derivatives and
    integrals. Ask them to solve a new problem and they're lost!

    No, don't just automate the antique concepts. We need Spice For RF,
    genuine wideband time-domain analysis. Anything interesting is
    nonlinear anyhow.

    https://www.ineltek.com/en/qorvo-qspice-neues-simulationstool-fuer-rf-und-leistungselektronik-schaltungsdesigns/

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From john larkin@21:1/5 to All on Tue Apr 22 16:29:22 2025
    On Tue, 22 Apr 2025 15:15:01 -0700, john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com>
    wrote:

    On Tue, 22 Apr 2025 22:02:32 +0100, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com>
    wrote:

    On Mon, 21 Apr 2025 15:02:17 -0700, john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> >>wrote:

    On Mon, 21 Apr 2025 22:23:03 +0100, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com> >>>wrote:

    On Mon, 21 Apr 2025 08:26:40 -0700, john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> >>>>wrote:

    [...]
    Sine waves are boring.

    Well, square waves give rise to lots of harmonics which can be useful. >>>>But what about triangles and sawtooths. Any interesting properies >>>>hidden away in those?

    Periodic waveforms are all boring. They just do the same thing, over
    and over.

    A complex pulse can do interesting things. Spin an airplane. Fuse >>>deuterium-tritium. Trigger a megaton boom.

    I wish the world would move on from the slide rule and graph paper
    days, narrowband s-parameters and Smith charts and load pulls. We have >>>computers now.

    It's dumb *not* to use computers for the complicated and trap-ridden >>calculations relating to impedance transformations, filters and >>transmission lines. *However* if someone using computers for this
    purpose hasn't been schooled in the derivation of the calculations by >>learning how the Smith Chart was developed and how it got that scary, >>warped shape, then they're going to be too far abstracted from the >>underlying physics to be able to understand fully what's going on
    under the hood. And they'll be that much poorer for it. Like people
    who use rules-based calculus to solve problems because they have
    little understanding of the nuts and bolts of derivatives and
    integrals. Ask them to solve a new problem and they're lost!

    No, don't just automate the antique concepts. We need Spice For RF,
    genuine wideband time-domain analysis. Anything interesting is
    nonlinear anyhow.

    https://www.ineltek.com/en/qorvo-qspice-neues-simulationstool-fuer-rf-und-leistungselektronik-schaltungsdesigns/

    I develop my own Spice models for MMICs and phemts and distributed
    amplifiers and other RF parts. That usually involves measurements,
    because most RF parts don't even specify DC things. Some data sheets
    say "adjust the bias until it works" or "ac couple the input and
    output."

    I drive electro-optical modulators with narrow pulses. The RF part
    data sheets assume a continous, symmetrical sine wave. I can get twice
    the swing for pulses if I bias a distributed amp way off-center.

    RF parts seem to specify their abs max voltage assuming that a sine
    wave might swing from ground to 2xVcc, but the data sheet specifies
    abs max Vcc. So one has to cheat.

    Testing a $300 distributed amplifier chip for its genuine abs max
    output voltage limit is emotionally tricky.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From bitrex@21:1/5 to Cursitor Doom on Wed Apr 23 01:01:41 2025
    On 4/21/2025 8:23 AM, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Sun, 20 Apr 2025 18:39:46 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

    On 4/20/2025 3:55 AM, Cursitor Doom wrote:

    Scott all you like. The plain fact is the account on the ZH site is
    true. I remember it all unraveling at the time. ZH broke the story and >>>>> were immediately targeted by all the usual suspects, keen to
    obliterate the culpability of Fauci and the CCP. All good cronies
    sticking together as ever.

    Yeah, if they had any real evidence of anything they'd find someone to >>>> charge with _something_.

    It'll come in time. Remember you didn't have a president worthy of the
    name until only just over 3 months ago and quite understandably he's
    had plenty of more pressing things to deal with first

    I've read a substantial portion of the Slack messages and emails
    referenced in this article:

    <https://archive.is/no4P6>

    talk about yawn-town.

    Seems like Congress discovered academics employed by the CDC under the
    first Trump administration can believe stupid things as well as anyone.
    They must be sorta smart though they seemed able to confine being dumb
    to their Slack messages and not tell everyone who they thought would
    listen (whether the victim felt like listening, or not.)
    That's a very difficult skill for many people to master it would
    probably take like 15 years of academic study for the average American
    to develop it.

    "The Republican subcommittee deemed it a co-ordinated 'attempt to kill
    the lab leak theory'”.

    Hey wait a minute I thought there was going to be evidence of a Chinese
    lab leak here but I guess the best they could produce was evidence of "a
    conspiracy to kill the lab leak theory" which isn't quite the same thing.

    Producing actual evidence of the former might require learning Mandarin
    for a start and there's almost nobody in all of Congress, much less the
    R side of the aisle, equipped for that task.

    So you don't think there was anything suspicious about the CCP denying
    the delegation from the WHO access to the bat virus lab for a
    fortnight whilst they removed all the evidence you're now crowing
    about the absence of?


    It's a deeply paranoid and authoritarian regime (like some others one
    could mention), doing suspicious things is their stock & trade, that's
    any given Tuesday in the power structure of the PRC.

    Like an American's insurance company delay and deny is what they do,
    it'd probably be more suspicious if they extended a warm invitation. "Oh
    yeah sure, we're cool with that!"

    ????? What did you do with the devil I know

    Anyway, some of the best evidence we have that the market was the origin
    is THAT'S WHERE THE BULK OF THE EARLY CASES WERE, people who lived in
    that area, many of whom had confirmed contact with the market. Not
    around the Wuhan Institute of Virology, which is the better part of 10
    miles away to the southeast.

    Straight-up Dr. John Snow London 1854 cholera-outbreak stuff, back to
    the contaminated well, in the neighborhood with the most cases. Not some _other_ goddamn well 10 miles away..

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Bill Sloman@21:1/5 to john larkin on Wed Apr 23 17:12:48 2025
    On 23/04/2025 2:49 am, john larkin wrote:
    On Tue, 22 Apr 2025 15:17:37 +1000, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>
    wrote:

    On 22/04/2025 8:02 am, john larkin wrote:
    On Mon, 21 Apr 2025 22:23:03 +0100, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com>
    wrote:

    On Mon, 21 Apr 2025 08:26:40 -0700, john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com>
    wrote:

    [...]
    Sine waves are boring.

    Well, square waves give rise to lots of harmonics which can be useful. >>>> But what about triangles and sawtooths. Any interesting properies
    hidden away in those?

    Periodic waveforms are all boring. They just do the same thing, over
    and over.

    A complex pulse can do interesting things. Spin an airplane. Fuse
    deuterium-tritium. Trigger a megaton boom.

    With the right effectors to translate the electrical waveform into the
    physical displacement of moving mass.

    I wish the world would move on from the slide rule and graph paper
    days, narrowband s-parameters and Smith charts and load pulls. We have
    computers now.

    But if you don't know enough to understand what the computer could be
    telling you, the computer is less helpful than it might be.

    The narrow road to comprehension is more easily negotiated with the
    right crutches. What worked in the historical past can still work today.
    There may be an easier route through more easily comprehended computer
    graphics but I've not seen any evidence to suggest that it has yet been
    found.

    Sloman is boring. He just does the same thing, over and over.

    When people like John Larkin post the same misinformation over and over
    again, the responses do tend to become stereotyped.

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Cursitor Doom@21:1/5 to bitrex on Wed Apr 23 11:59:48 2025
    On Wed, 23 Apr 2025 01:01:41 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

    On 4/21/2025 8:23 AM, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Sun, 20 Apr 2025 18:39:46 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

    On 4/20/2025 3:55 AM, Cursitor Doom wrote:

    Scott all you like. The plain fact is the account on the ZH site is >>>>>> true. I remember it all unraveling at the time. ZH broke the story and >>>>>> were immediately targeted by all the usual suspects, keen to
    obliterate the culpability of Fauci and the CCP. All good cronies
    sticking together as ever.

    Yeah, if they had any real evidence of anything they'd find someone to >>>>> charge with _something_.

    It'll come in time. Remember you didn't have a president worthy of the >>>> name until only just over 3 months ago and quite understandably he's
    had plenty of more pressing things to deal with first

    I've read a substantial portion of the Slack messages and emails
    referenced in this article:

    <https://archive.is/no4P6>

    talk about yawn-town.

    Seems like Congress discovered academics employed by the CDC under the
    first Trump administration can believe stupid things as well as anyone.
    They must be sorta smart though they seemed able to confine being dumb
    to their Slack messages and not tell everyone who they thought would
    listen (whether the victim felt like listening, or not.)
    That's a very difficult skill for many people to master it would
    probably take like 15 years of academic study for the average American
    to develop it.

    "The Republican subcommittee deemed it a co-ordinated 'attempt to kill
    the lab leak theory'.

    Hey wait a minute I thought there was going to be evidence of a Chinese
    lab leak here but I guess the best they could produce was evidence of "a >>> conspiracy to kill the lab leak theory" which isn't quite the same thing. >>>
    Producing actual evidence of the former might require learning Mandarin
    for a start and there's almost nobody in all of Congress, much less the
    R side of the aisle, equipped for that task.

    So you don't think there was anything suspicious about the CCP denying
    the delegation from the WHO access to the bat virus lab for a
    fortnight whilst they removed all the evidence you're now crowing
    about the absence of?


    It's a deeply paranoid and authoritarian regime (like some others one
    could mention), doing suspicious things is their stock & trade, that's
    any given Tuesday in the power structure of the PRC.

    Like an American's insurance company delay and deny is what they do,
    it'd probably be more suspicious if they extended a warm invitation. "Oh
    yeah sure, we're cool with that!"

    ????? What did you do with the devil I know

    Anyway, some of the best evidence we have that the market was the origin
    is THAT'S WHERE THE BULK OF THE EARLY CASES WERE, people who lived in
    that area, many of whom had confirmed contact with the market. Not
    around the Wuhan Institute of Virology, which is the better part of 10
    miles away to the southeast.

    Straight-up Dr. John Snow London 1854 cholera-outbreak stuff, back to
    the contaminated well, in the neighborhood with the most cases. Not some >_other_ goddamn well 10 miles away..

    Sorry, not buying it. I don't know if you actually believe the
    nonsense you wrote or not, but it's what we've come to expect from you
    and Bill Sloman. Do you get a stipend from the CCP for your services?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Cursitor Doom@21:1/5 to All on Wed Apr 23 11:56:39 2025
    On Tue, 22 Apr 2025 16:29:22 -0700, john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com>
    wrote:

    On Tue, 22 Apr 2025 15:15:01 -0700, john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com>
    wrote:

    On Tue, 22 Apr 2025 22:02:32 +0100, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com> >>wrote:

    On Mon, 21 Apr 2025 15:02:17 -0700, john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> >>>wrote:

    On Mon, 21 Apr 2025 22:23:03 +0100, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com> >>>>wrote:

    On Mon, 21 Apr 2025 08:26:40 -0700, john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> >>>>>wrote:

    [...]
    Sine waves are boring.

    Well, square waves give rise to lots of harmonics which can be useful. >>>>>But what about triangles and sawtooths. Any interesting properies >>>>>hidden away in those?

    Periodic waveforms are all boring. They just do the same thing, over >>>>and over.

    A complex pulse can do interesting things. Spin an airplane. Fuse >>>>deuterium-tritium. Trigger a megaton boom.

    I wish the world would move on from the slide rule and graph paper >>>>days, narrowband s-parameters and Smith charts and load pulls. We have >>>>computers now.

    It's dumb *not* to use computers for the complicated and trap-ridden >>>calculations relating to impedance transformations, filters and >>>transmission lines. *However* if someone using computers for this
    purpose hasn't been schooled in the derivation of the calculations by >>>learning how the Smith Chart was developed and how it got that scary, >>>warped shape, then they're going to be too far abstracted from the >>>underlying physics to be able to understand fully what's going on
    under the hood. And they'll be that much poorer for it. Like people
    who use rules-based calculus to solve problems because they have
    little understanding of the nuts and bolts of derivatives and
    integrals. Ask them to solve a new problem and they're lost!

    No, don't just automate the antique concepts. We need Spice For RF,
    genuine wideband time-domain analysis. Anything interesting is
    nonlinear anyhow.
    https://www.ineltek.com/en/qorvo-qspice-neues-simulationstool-fuer-rf-und-leistungselektronik-schaltungsdesigns/

    I develop my own Spice models for MMICs and phemts and distributed
    amplifiers and other RF parts. That usually involves measurements,
    because most RF parts don't even specify DC things. Some data sheets
    say "adjust the bias until it works" or "ac couple the input and
    output."

    Yes, they're generally poor on detail for sure.

    I drive electro-optical modulators with narrow pulses. The RF part
    data sheets assume a continous, symmetrical sine wave. I can get twice
    the swing for pulses if I bias a distributed amp way off-center.

    You should get yourself a curve-tracer - or design one (and share that
    with me so I can build one).:)

    RF parts seem to specify their abs max voltage assuming that a sine
    wave might swing from ground to 2xVcc, but the data sheet specifies
    abs max Vcc. So one has to cheat.

    Testing a $300 distributed amplifier chip for its genuine abs max
    output voltage limit is emotionally tricky.

    I would imagine so, yes. However, at least today you can launch a
    crowd-funding appeal to share the burden. ;-)

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Bill Sloman@21:1/5 to Cursitor Doom on Thu Apr 24 00:00:03 2025
    On 23/04/2025 8:59 pm, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Wed, 23 Apr 2025 01:01:41 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

    On 4/21/2025 8:23 AM, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Sun, 20 Apr 2025 18:39:46 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

    On 4/20/2025 3:55 AM, Cursitor Doom wrote:

    <snip>

    Anyway, some of the best evidence we have that the market was the origin
    is THAT'S WHERE THE BULK OF THE EARLY CASES WERE, people who lived in
    that area, many of whom had confirmed contact with the market. Not
    around the Wuhan Institute of Virology, which is the better part of 10
    miles away to the southeast.

    Straight-up Dr. John Snow London 1854 cholera-outbreak stuff, back to
    the contaminated well, in the neighborhood with the most cases. Not some
    _other_ goddamn well 10 miles away..

    Sorry, not buying it. I don't know if you actually believe the
    nonsense you wrote or not, but it's what we've come to expect from you
    and Bill Sloman. Do you get a stipend from the CCP for your services?

    I certainly don't. You seem to share Jim Thompson's delusion that
    anybody who isn't rabidly pro-American is anti-American, and have added
    in the idea that anybody who isn't rabidly anti-Chinese is pro-Chinese.

    Most people are a little more complicated than that, and most people are
    smart enough to cope with actual human behavior.

    The proposition that Covid-19 is a Chinese biological weapon is grossly implausible and you do like your nonsense to be flagrantly implausible.

    I'm not sure whether Trump suffers from the same disease, or just makes
    fatuous claims as an attention-getting device. It takes a fairly high
    level of ignorance to carry it off, and you and Donald Trump have got
    that in spades.

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From john larkin@21:1/5 to All on Wed Apr 23 07:38:48 2025
    On Wed, 23 Apr 2025 11:56:39 +0100, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com>
    wrote:

    On Tue, 22 Apr 2025 16:29:22 -0700, john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com>
    wrote:

    On Tue, 22 Apr 2025 15:15:01 -0700, john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> >>wrote:

    On Tue, 22 Apr 2025 22:02:32 +0100, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com> >>>wrote:

    On Mon, 21 Apr 2025 15:02:17 -0700, john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> >>>>wrote:

    On Mon, 21 Apr 2025 22:23:03 +0100, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com> >>>>>wrote:

    On Mon, 21 Apr 2025 08:26:40 -0700, john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> >>>>>>wrote:

    [...]
    Sine waves are boring.

    Well, square waves give rise to lots of harmonics which can be useful. >>>>>>But what about triangles and sawtooths. Any interesting properies >>>>>>hidden away in those?

    Periodic waveforms are all boring. They just do the same thing, over >>>>>and over.

    A complex pulse can do interesting things. Spin an airplane. Fuse >>>>>deuterium-tritium. Trigger a megaton boom.

    I wish the world would move on from the slide rule and graph paper >>>>>days, narrowband s-parameters and Smith charts and load pulls. We have >>>>>computers now.

    It's dumb *not* to use computers for the complicated and trap-ridden >>>>calculations relating to impedance transformations, filters and >>>>transmission lines. *However* if someone using computers for this >>>>purpose hasn't been schooled in the derivation of the calculations by >>>>learning how the Smith Chart was developed and how it got that scary, >>>>warped shape, then they're going to be too far abstracted from the >>>>underlying physics to be able to understand fully what's going on
    under the hood. And they'll be that much poorer for it. Like people
    who use rules-based calculus to solve problems because they have
    little understanding of the nuts and bolts of derivatives and >>>>integrals. Ask them to solve a new problem and they're lost!

    No, don't just automate the antique concepts. We need Spice For RF, >>>genuine wideband time-domain analysis. Anything interesting is
    nonlinear anyhow.
    https://www.ineltek.com/en/qorvo-qspice-neues-simulationstool-fuer-rf-und-leistungselektronik-schaltungsdesigns/

    I develop my own Spice models for MMICs and phemts and distributed >>amplifiers and other RF parts. That usually involves measurements,
    because most RF parts don't even specify DC things. Some data sheets
    say "adjust the bias until it works" or "ac couple the input and
    output."

    Yes, they're generally poor on detail for sure.

    I drive electro-optical modulators with narrow pulses. The RF part
    data sheets assume a continous, symmetrical sine wave. I can get twice
    the swing for pulses if I bias a distributed amp way off-center.

    You should get yourself a curve-tracer - or design one (and share that
    with me so I can build one).:)

    I can usually take a few points on a breadboard or an eval board.

    Many RF parts self-bias, or are more complex than a classic 3-terminal
    part.

    Even worse, some have internal closed-loop bias things of undefined
    bandwidth. I hate that.

    The RF boys always chop off their graphs to hide the bad bits. And a
    lot of parts are sold to work in some specific band, with tuned wire
    bonds or whatever, so wideband use is guesswork.


    RF parts seem to specify their abs max voltage assuming that a sine
    wave might swing from ground to 2xVcc, but the data sheet specifies
    abs max Vcc. So one has to cheat.

    Testing a $300 distributed amplifier chip for its genuine abs max
    output voltage limit is emotionally tricky.

    I would imagine so, yes. However, at least today you can launch a >crowd-funding appeal to share the burden. ;-)

    I used the HMC659 in the recent NIF modulator project. They are over
    $300 each. If you pull the output up with a current source and poke
    negative pulses into the input, it breaks down at about 16 volts. That
    was an interesting experiment.

    Breaking things is fun. Well, cheap things.

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  • From Bill Sloman@21:1/5 to john larkin on Thu Apr 24 02:07:43 2025
    On 24/04/2025 12:38 am, john larkin wrote:
    On Wed, 23 Apr 2025 11:56:39 +0100, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com>
    wrote:

    On Tue, 22 Apr 2025 16:29:22 -0700, john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com>
    wrote:

    On Tue, 22 Apr 2025 15:15:01 -0700, john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com>
    wrote:

    On Tue, 22 Apr 2025 22:02:32 +0100, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com>
    wrote:

    On Mon, 21 Apr 2025 15:02:17 -0700, john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> >>>>> wrote:

    On Mon, 21 Apr 2025 22:23:03 +0100, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com> >>>>>> wrote:

    On Mon, 21 Apr 2025 08:26:40 -0700, john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> >>>>>>> wrote:

    <snip>


    The RF boys always chop off their graphs to hide the bad bits. And a
    lot of parts are sold to work in some specific band, with tuned wire
    bonds or whatever, so wideband use is guesswork.

    Not so much guesswork as demanding of insight. If you haven't got any
    insight into how the thing works in its usual application, then you are
    reduced to guesswork.

    RF parts seem to specify their abs max voltage assuming that a sine
    wave might swing from ground to 2xVcc, but the data sheet specifies
    abs max Vcc. So one has to cheat.

    Or read the data sheet with some insight into what might normally be
    going on.

    Even marketing clown don't write data sheets that lead a lot of
    customers to blow up a lot of parts.

    Testing a $300 distributed amplifier chip for its genuine abs max
    output voltage limit is emotionally tricky.

    Asking the application engineer what might happen is less expensive, but
    means deferring to their expertise (when they have some).

    <snipped the usual advertising>

    Breaking things is fun. Well, cheap things.

    Not for grown-ups.

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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  • From Cursitor Doom@21:1/5 to All on Wed Apr 23 17:55:19 2025
    On Wed, 23 Apr 2025 07:38:48 -0700, john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com>
    wrote:

    On Wed, 23 Apr 2025 11:56:39 +0100, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com>
    wrote:

    On Tue, 22 Apr 2025 16:29:22 -0700, john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> >>wrote:

    On Tue, 22 Apr 2025 15:15:01 -0700, john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> >>>wrote:

    On Tue, 22 Apr 2025 22:02:32 +0100, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com> >>>>wrote:

    On Mon, 21 Apr 2025 15:02:17 -0700, john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> >>>>>wrote:

    On Mon, 21 Apr 2025 22:23:03 +0100, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com> >>>>>>wrote:

    On Mon, 21 Apr 2025 08:26:40 -0700, john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> >>>>>>>wrote:

    [...]
    Sine waves are boring.

    Well, square waves give rise to lots of harmonics which can be useful. >>>>>>>But what about triangles and sawtooths. Any interesting properies >>>>>>>hidden away in those?

    Periodic waveforms are all boring. They just do the same thing, over >>>>>>and over.

    A complex pulse can do interesting things. Spin an airplane. Fuse >>>>>>deuterium-tritium. Trigger a megaton boom.

    I wish the world would move on from the slide rule and graph paper >>>>>>days, narrowband s-parameters and Smith charts and load pulls. We have >>>>>>computers now.

    It's dumb *not* to use computers for the complicated and trap-ridden >>>>>calculations relating to impedance transformations, filters and >>>>>transmission lines. *However* if someone using computers for this >>>>>purpose hasn't been schooled in the derivation of the calculations by >>>>>learning how the Smith Chart was developed and how it got that scary, >>>>>warped shape, then they're going to be too far abstracted from the >>>>>underlying physics to be able to understand fully what's going on >>>>>under the hood. And they'll be that much poorer for it. Like people >>>>>who use rules-based calculus to solve problems because they have >>>>>little understanding of the nuts and bolts of derivatives and >>>>>integrals. Ask them to solve a new problem and they're lost!

    No, don't just automate the antique concepts. We need Spice For RF, >>>>genuine wideband time-domain analysis. Anything interesting is >>>>nonlinear anyhow.
    https://www.ineltek.com/en/qorvo-qspice-neues-simulationstool-fuer-rf-und-leistungselektronik-schaltungsdesigns/

    I develop my own Spice models for MMICs and phemts and distributed >>>amplifiers and other RF parts. That usually involves measurements, >>>because most RF parts don't even specify DC things. Some data sheets
    say "adjust the bias until it works" or "ac couple the input and
    output."

    Yes, they're generally poor on detail for sure.

    I drive electro-optical modulators with narrow pulses. The RF part
    data sheets assume a continous, symmetrical sine wave. I can get twice >>>the swing for pulses if I bias a distributed amp way off-center.

    You should get yourself a curve-tracer - or design one (and share that
    with me so I can build one).:)

    I can usually take a few points on a breadboard or an eval board.

    Many RF parts self-bias, or are more complex than a classic 3-terminal
    part.

    Even worse, some have internal closed-loop bias things of undefined >bandwidth. I hate that.

    The RF boys always chop off their graphs to hide the bad bits. And a
    lot of parts are sold to work in some specific band, with tuned wire
    bonds or whatever, so wideband use is guesswork.

    I feel your pain. Life's a *bitch* at mm wave. Am I allowed to say
    that any more? Oh well, tough - I just did.

    RF parts seem to specify their abs max voltage assuming that a sine
    wave might swing from ground to 2xVcc, but the data sheet specifies
    abs max Vcc. So one has to cheat.

    Testing a $300 distributed amplifier chip for its genuine abs max
    output voltage limit is emotionally tricky.

    I would imagine so, yes. However, at least today you can launch a >>crowd-funding appeal to share the burden. ;-)

    I used the HMC659 in the recent NIF modulator project. They are over
    $300 each. If you pull the output up with a current source and poke
    negative pulses into the input, it breaks down at about 16 volts. That
    was an interesting experiment.

    If you want to *fully* characterize such devices, it will cost a small
    fortune. But depending on the application, you may have to lay out the
    bread, because as you've already said, there's a paucity of
    information in the typical datasheet when it comes to 'extreme'
    operating conditions.

    Breaking things is fun. Well, cheap things.

    Or expensive things that a crowd of other people have paid for, yes.

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  • From bitrex@21:1/5 to Bill Sloman on Thu Apr 24 13:21:05 2025
    On 4/23/2025 10:00 AM, Bill Sloman wrote:
    On 23/04/2025 8:59 pm, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Wed, 23 Apr 2025 01:01:41 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

    On 4/21/2025 8:23 AM, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Sun, 20 Apr 2025 18:39:46 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

    On 4/20/2025 3:55 AM, Cursitor Doom wrote:

    <snip>

    Anyway, some of the best evidence we have that the market was the origin >>> is THAT'S WHERE THE BULK OF THE EARLY CASES WERE, people who lived in
    that area, many of whom had confirmed contact with the market. Not
    around the Wuhan Institute of Virology, which is the better part of 10
    miles away to the southeast.

    Straight-up Dr. John Snow London 1854 cholera-outbreak stuff, back to
    the contaminated well, in the neighborhood with the most cases. Not some >>> _other_ goddamn well 10 miles away..

    Sorry, not buying it. I don't know if you actually believe the
    nonsense you wrote or not, but it's what we've come to expect from you
    and Bill Sloman. Do you get a stipend from the CCP for your services?

    I certainly don't. You seem to share Jim Thompson's delusion that
    anybody who isn't rabidly pro-American is anti-American, and have added
    in the idea that anybody who isn't rabidly anti-Chinese is pro-Chinese.

    Most people are a little more complicated than that, and most people are smart enough to cope with actual human behavior.

    The proposition that Covid-19 is a Chinese biological weapon is grossly implausible and you do like your nonsense to be flagrantly implausible.

    I'm not sure whether Trump suffers from the same disease, or just makes fatuous claims as an attention-getting device. It takes a fairly high
    level of ignorance to carry it off, and you and Donald Trump have got
    that in spades.


    Calling Harvard University a "Far Left Institution" would definitely
    have been considered a sign of dementia for about the past 400 years,
    but it's also symptomatic of the decision of the populist New Right in
    America to consider just about anyone with higher than a 6th grade
    education its mortal enemy.

    Anyone other than its leadership, who as usual consist of a large
    proportion Ivy-babies themselves "do as I say, not as I do"

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