Colors are so faddish.

Cars used to come in colors. Having my hair done today, looking out
the window up at Twin Peaks, I counted 41 cars on a row that were
black, white, or grey, then one blue one to break the run. I have seen
a few new cars that have color, if mostly muted muddy ones or grey
with a hint of color.

Houses around here for about 10 years now have all been painted grey
or some even black. Some old gingerbread victorians with doodads and
gold leaf were painted over in dark monotones. Just lately I see a lot
of pale grey-green.

Electronics used to be grey or black krinkle finish. Tektronix changed
the style to light anodize with etched color-filled legends. Then we
had pastels. Lately the style in electronic instruments is black.

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https://www.tek.com/-/media/images/product-series/datavu-pc/datavu-pc-product-card.jpg?h=225&iar=0&w=375

https://www.rigolna.com/images/products/series/MSO8000.png


Ugly.

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Hey dont post pictures.

Cheers


----Android NewsGroup Reader---- https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/usenet/index.html

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On Mon, 19 May 2025 10:43:23 -0400 (EDT), Martin Rid <martin_riddle@verison.net> wrote:

Hey dont post pictures.

Cheers

----Android NewsGroup Reader---- >https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/usenet/index.html

Good point. Let's not allow ideas here either.

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john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> Wrote in message:r

On Mon, 19 May 2025 10:43:23 -0400 (EDT), Martin Rid<martin_riddle@verison.net> wrote:>Hey dont post pictures.>>Cheers>>>----Android NewsGroup Reader---->https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/usenet/index.htmlGood point. Let's not allow ideas

here either.

Lol, well just to point out that pink color on ch3 of the rigol,
that's for color blind people.

Cheers
--


----Android NewsGroup Reader---- https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/usenet/index.html

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On 20/05/2025 2:11 am, john larkin wrote:

On Mon, 19 May 2025 10:43:23 -0400 (EDT), Martin Rid <martin_riddle@verison.net> wrote:

Hey dont post pictures.

Cheers


----Android NewsGroup Reader----
https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/usenet/index.html

Good point. Let's not allow ideas here either.

Good ideas are fine, if a little harder to find than some people seem to
think.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

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On Mon, 19 May 2025 12:48:12 -0400 (EDT), Martin Rid <martin_riddle@verison.net> wrote:

john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> Wrote in message:r

On Mon, 19 May 2025 10:43:23 -0400 (EDT), Martin Rid<martin_riddle@verison.net> wrote:>Hey dont post pictures.>>Cheers>>>----Android NewsGroup Reader---->https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/usenet/index.htmlGood point. Let's not allow ideas

here either.

Lol, well just to point out that pink color on ch3 of the rigol,
that's for color blind people.

Cheers

Is there a European standard for scope trace colors? They have rules
for everything else.

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On 5/19/25 00:43, john larkin wrote:

Colors are so faddish.

Cars used to come in colors. Having my hair done today, looking out
the window up at Twin Peaks, I counted 41 cars on a row that were
black, white, or grey, then one blue one to break the run. I have seen
a few new cars that have color, if mostly muted muddy ones or grey
with a hint of color.

if you pick a stand out color some will hate it, a "boring"
white/grey/black is worth because most people can live with that

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Martin Rid <martin_riddle@verison.net> wrote:

Hey dont post pictures.

Was that supposed to be a picture? All I saw was pages of code.


--
~ Liz Tuddenham ~
(Remove the ".invalid"s and add ".co.uk" to reply)
www.poppyrecords.co.uk

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On Mon, 19 May 2025 23:14:54 +0200, Lasse Langwadt <llc@fonz.dk>
wrote:

On 5/19/25 00:43, john larkin wrote:

Colors are so faddish.

Cars used to come in colors. Having my hair done today, looking out
the window up at Twin Peaks, I counted 41 cars on a row that were
black, white, or grey, then one blue one to break the run. I have seen
a few new cars that have color, if mostly muted muddy ones or grey
with a hint of color.

if you pick a stand out color some will hate it, a "boring"
white/grey/black is worth because most people can live with that

I can easily find my blazing red Audi in a parking lot. I'm grateful
for the bland background.

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On Mon, 19 May 2025 21:34:00 +0100, liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid
(Liz Tuddenham) wrote:

Martin Rid <martin_riddle@verison.net> wrote:

Hey dont post pictures.

Was that supposed to be a picture? All I saw was pages of code.

Some URLs are absurd, and one may not know how silly until they are word-wrapped.

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On 5/19/2025 6:29 PM, john larkin wrote:

On Mon, 19 May 2025 23:14:54 +0200, Lasse Langwadt <llc@fonz.dk>
wrote:

On 5/19/25 00:43, john larkin wrote:

Colors are so faddish.

Cars used to come in colors. Having my hair done today, looking out
the window up at Twin Peaks, I counted 41 cars on a row that were
black, white, or grey, then one blue one to break the run. I have seen
a few new cars that have color, if mostly muted muddy ones or grey
with a hint of color.

if you pick a stand out color some will hate it, a "boring"
white/grey/black is worth because most people can live with that

I can easily find my blazing red Audi in a parking lot. I'm grateful
for the bland background.

Up until about 2023 the Dodge Ram "Classic" was one of the last vehicles
you could get from the factory in about 15 different "low volume" paints
like e.g. Safety Yellow and Hunter Green, ostensibly so business
customers could order one congruent with their corporate scheme

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On 2025-05-19 22:34, Liz Tuddenham wrote:

Martin Rid <martin_riddle@verison.net> wrote:

Hey dont post pictures.

Was that supposed to be a picture? All I saw was pages of code.

You copy paste the data:image/... URL into firefox and it displays a
tiny photo. :-)

Cute.

--
Cheers,
Carlos E.R.

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In article <8knk2kl9p0bqgahik80gh8rhophd33nrem@4ax.com>,
john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> wrote:

Colors are so faddish.

Cars used to come in colors. Having my hair done today, looking out
the window up at Twin Peaks, I counted 41 cars on a row that were
black, white, or grey, then one blue one to break the run. I have seen
a few new cars that have color, if mostly muted muddy ones or grey
with a hint of color.

Houses around here for about 10 years now have all been painted grey
or some even black. Some old gingerbread victorians with doodads and
gold leaf were painted over in dark monotones. Just lately I see a lot
of pale grey-green.

Electronics used to be grey or black krinkle finish. Tektronix changed
the style to light anodize with etched color-filled legends. Then we
had pastels. Lately the style in electronic instruments is black.

Ugly.

See some youtube video's of Sjanghai. The colours are dazzling,
especially at night.

Those are indicative of rising versus declining empires.

Groetjes Albert
--
Temu exploits Christians: (Disclaimer, only 10 apostles)
Last Supper Acrylic Suncatcher - 15Cm Round Stained Glass- Style Wall
Art For Home, Office And Garden Decor - Perfect For Windows, Bars,
And Gifts For Friends Family And Colleagues.

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On 2025-05-21 07:33, albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl wrote:

In article <8knk2kl9p0bqgahik80gh8rhophd33nrem@4ax.com>,
john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> wrote:

Colors are so faddish.

Cars used to come in colors. Having my hair done today, looking out
the window up at Twin Peaks, I counted 41 cars on a row that were
black, white, or grey, then one blue one to break the run. I have seen
a few new cars that have color, if mostly muted muddy ones or grey
with a hint of color.

Houses around here for about 10 years now have all been painted grey
or some even black. Some old gingerbread victorians with doodads and
gold leaf were painted over in dark monotones. Just lately I see a lot
of pale grey-green.

Electronics used to be grey or black krinkle finish. Tektronix changed
the style to light anodize with etched color-filled legends. Then we
had pastels. Lately the style in electronic instruments is black.



Ugly.

See some youtube video's of Sjanghai. The colours are dazzling,
especially at night.

Exclusively at night. Those LEDs cover up a landscape of decay and
"tofu dregs" construction(*), like that building that collapsed in
Bangkok a couple of months ago.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

(*) Coined by Zhu Rongji himself, see <https://thediplomat.com/2012/02/chinas-dangerous-tofu-projects/>. They haven't got better since.

--
Dr Philip C D Hobbs
Principal Consultant
ElectroOptical Innovations LLC / Hobbs ElectroOptics
Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics
Briarcliff Manor NY 10510

http://electrooptical.net
http://hobbs-eo.com

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On Wed, 21 May 2025 13:33:45 +0200, albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl wrote:

In article <8knk2kl9p0bqgahik80gh8rhophd33nrem@4ax.com>,
john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> wrote:

Colors are so faddish.

Cars used to come in colors. Having my hair done today, looking out
the window up at Twin Peaks, I counted 41 cars on a row that were
black, white, or grey, then one blue one to break the run. I have seen
a few new cars that have color, if mostly muted muddy ones or grey
with a hint of color.

Houses around here for about 10 years now have all been painted grey
or some even black. Some old gingerbread victorians with doodads and
gold leaf were painted over in dark monotones. Just lately I see a lot
of pale grey-green.

Electronics used to be grey or black krinkle finish. Tektronix changed
the style to light anodize with etched color-filled legends. Then we
had pastels. Lately the style in electronic instruments is black.



Ugly.

See some youtube video's of Sjanghai. The colours are dazzling,
especially at night.

Those are indicative of rising versus declining empires.

Groetjes Albert

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fo67vl9ylWI

Hideous. Junk city.

Lots of LEDs, no babies.

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In article <ed92edeb-ad47-790f-02d1-10f879b94a53@electrooptical.net>,
Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:

On 2025-05-21 07:33, albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl wrote:

In article <8knk2kl9p0bqgahik80gh8rhophd33nrem@4ax.com>,
john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> wrote:

Colors are so faddish.

Cars used to come in colors. Having my hair done today, looking out
the window up at Twin Peaks, I counted 41 cars on a row that were
black, white, or grey, then one blue one to break the run. I have seen
a few new cars that have color, if mostly muted muddy ones or grey
with a hint of color.

Houses around here for about 10 years now have all been painted grey
or some even black. Some old gingerbread victorians with doodads and
gold leaf were painted over in dark monotones. Just lately I see a lot
of pale grey-green.

Electronics used to be grey or black krinkle finish. Tektronix changed
the style to light anodize with etched color-filled legends. Then we
had pastels. Lately the style in electronic instruments is black.



Ugly.

See some youtube video's of Sjanghai. The colours are dazzling,
especially at night.

Exclusively at night. Those LEDs cover up a landscape of decay and
"tofu dregs" construction(*), like that building that collapsed in
Bangkok a couple of months ago.

The CIA invests 300 million dollars/year to bad mouth China, so
it is hard to get realistic picture.
In China corruption (especially that harms the economy) is a dangerous game. Trump level corruption merits the dead penalty in China, although
it is normally converted to a life long sentence.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

Groetjes Albert
--
Temu exploits Christians: (Disclaimer, only 10 apostles)
Last Supper Acrylic Suncatcher - 15Cm Round Stained Glass- Style Wall
Art For Home, Office And Garden Decor - Perfect For Windows, Bars,
And Gifts For Friends Family And Colleagues.

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On Thu, 05 Jun 2025 14:28:41 +0200, albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl wrote:

In article <ed92edeb-ad47-790f-02d1-10f879b94a53@electrooptical.net>,
Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:

On 2025-05-21 07:33, albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl wrote:

In article <8knk2kl9p0bqgahik80gh8rhophd33nrem@4ax.com>,
john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> wrote:

Colors are so faddish.

Cars used to come in colors. Having my hair done today, looking out
the window up at Twin Peaks, I counted 41 cars on a row that were
black, white, or grey, then one blue one to break the run. I have seen >>>> a few new cars that have color, if mostly muted muddy ones or grey
with a hint of color.

Houses around here for about 10 years now have all been painted grey
or some even black. Some old gingerbread victorians with doodads and
gold leaf were painted over in dark monotones. Just lately I see a lot >>>> of pale grey-green.

Electronics used to be grey or black krinkle finish. Tektronix changed >>>> the style to light anodize with etched color-filled legends. Then we
had pastels. Lately the style in electronic instruments is black.



Ugly.

See some youtube video's of Sjanghai. The colours are dazzling,
especially at night.

Exclusively at night. Those LEDs cover up a landscape of decay and
"tofu dregs" construction(*), like that building that collapsed in
Bangkok a couple of months ago.

The CIA invests 300 million dollars/year to bad mouth China, so
it is hard to get realistic picture.

Waste of money. Their narcotics and crap products do the job nicely.

In China corruption (especially that harms the economy) is a dangerous game. >Trump level corruption merits the dead penalty in China,

Unless it's done at the highest levels.

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