• LMG1025

    From john larkin@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jul 7 17:11:26 2025
    It's a TI GaNfet lowside gate driver. Insane specs.

    It's a nasty little leadless package. There's an even faster BGA
    version.

    I wish there was a higher-voltage version, for driving SiC parts.

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  • From Phil Hobbs@21:1/5 to john larkin on Tue Jul 8 18:36:01 2025
    On 2025-07-07 20:11, john larkin wrote:
    It's a TI GaNfet lowside gate driver. Insane specs.

    It's a nasty little leadless package. There's an even faster BGA
    version.

    I wish there was a higher-voltage version, for driving SiC parts.


    Yikes, nine bucks in onesies.

    Pretty cool driving 5V into 220 pF in 650 ps, for sure.

    Cheers

    Phil Hobbs

    --
    Dr Philip C D Hobbs
    Principal Consultant
    ElectroOptical Innovations LLC / Hobbs ElectroOptics
    Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics
    Briarcliff Manor NY 10510

    http://electrooptical.net
    http://hobbs-eo.com

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  • From john larkin@21:1/5 to pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical. on Tue Jul 8 16:36:57 2025
    On Tue, 8 Jul 2025 18:36:01 -0400, Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:

    On 2025-07-07 20:11, john larkin wrote:
    It's a TI GaNfet lowside gate driver. Insane specs.

    It's a nasty little leadless package. There's an even faster BGA
    version.

    I wish there was a higher-voltage version, for driving SiC parts.


    Yikes, nine bucks in onesies.

    That's in the noise floor for the products that we have in mind. But
    it will cost a lot more than the fets we will be driving.

    What's interesting is that the schematic on the data sheet seems to
    show a p-channel GaN fet... on chip!


    Pretty cool driving 5V into 220 pF in 650 ps, for sure.

    Cheers

    Phil Hobbs

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  • From Phil Hobbs@21:1/5 to john larkin on Wed Jul 9 00:46:45 2025
    john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> wrote:
    On Tue, 8 Jul 2025 18:36:01 -0400, Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:

    On 2025-07-07 20:11, john larkin wrote:
    It's a TI GaNfet lowside gate driver. Insane specs.

    It's a nasty little leadless package. There's an even faster BGA
    version.

    I wish there was a higher-voltage version, for driving SiC parts.


    Yikes, nine bucks in onesies.

    That's in the noise floor for the products that we have in mind. But
    it will cost a lot more than the fets we will be driving.

    What's interesting is that the schematic on the data sheet seems to
    show a p-channel GaN fet... on chip!

    You can’t make good PFETs in III-V systems, alas, because the hole mobility is very low even compared with silicon.

    Cheers

    Phil Hobbs

    --
    Dr Philip C D Hobbs Principal Consultant ElectroOptical Innovations LLC / Hobbs ElectroOptics Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics

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  • From piglet@21:1/5 to john larkin on Wed Jul 9 10:58:13 2025
    john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> wrote:
    On Tue, 8 Jul 2025 18:36:01 -0400, Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:

    On 2025-07-07 20:11, john larkin wrote:
    It's a TI GaNfet lowside gate driver. Insane specs.

    It's a nasty little leadless package. There's an even faster BGA
    version.

    I wish there was a higher-voltage version, for driving SiC parts.


    Yikes, nine bucks in onesies.

    That's in the noise floor for the products that we have in mind. But
    it will cost a lot more than the fets we will be driving.

    What's interesting is that the schematic on the data sheet seems to
    show a p-channel GaN fet... on chip!


    Pretty cool driving 5V into 220 pF in 650 ps, for sure.

    Cheers

    Phil Hobbs


    I took that to be a regular silicon p-ch fet. Although the chip is intended
    to drive GaN devices isn’t it itself regular silicon- does the datasheet
    say it is fabricated from GaN?

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    piglet

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  • From john larkin@21:1/5 to erichpwagner@hotmail.com on Wed Jul 9 07:32:08 2025
    On Wed, 9 Jul 2025 10:58:13 -0000 (UTC), piglet
    <erichpwagner@hotmail.com> wrote:

    john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> wrote:
    On Tue, 8 Jul 2025 18:36:01 -0400, Phil Hobbs
    <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:

    On 2025-07-07 20:11, john larkin wrote:
    It's a TI GaNfet lowside gate driver. Insane specs.

    It's a nasty little leadless package. There's an even faster BGA
    version.

    I wish there was a higher-voltage version, for driving SiC parts.


    Yikes, nine bucks in onesies.

    That's in the noise floor for the products that we have in mind. But
    it will cost a lot more than the fets we will be driving.

    What's interesting is that the schematic on the data sheet seems to
    show a p-channel GaN fet... on chip!


    Pretty cool driving 5V into 220 pF in 650 ps, for sure.

    Cheers

    Phil Hobbs


    I took that to be a regular silicon p-ch fet. Although the chip is intended >to drive GaN devices isn’t it itself regular silicon- does the datasheet
    say it is fabricated from GaN?

    But the performance is amazing, if it is silicon.

    My alternative GaN gate driver would be a *lot* of Tiny Logic gate
    sections in parallel. Som of those are about as fast.

    We are also considering using a BUF602, 1 GHz bandwidth and 350 mA
    out, but it would need weird positive and negative supplies.

    We'll try all the above.

    I really want a fast SiC gate driver too. That would need close to 20
    volts swing. Most SiC drivers are isolated (which we don't need) and
    have huge prop delays, and probably correspondingly high jitter.

    My summer interns are playing with fast high voltage switchers on the
    theory that a product might emerge somehow.

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  • From john larkin@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jul 9 10:31:41 2025
    On Wed, 09 Jul 2025 07:32:08 -0700, john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com>
    wrote:

    On Wed, 9 Jul 2025 10:58:13 -0000 (UTC), piglet
    <erichpwagner@hotmail.com> wrote:

    john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> wrote:
    On Tue, 8 Jul 2025 18:36:01 -0400, Phil Hobbs
    <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:

    On 2025-07-07 20:11, john larkin wrote:
    It's a TI GaNfet lowside gate driver. Insane specs.

    It's a nasty little leadless package. There's an even faster BGA
    version.

    I wish there was a higher-voltage version, for driving SiC parts.


    Yikes, nine bucks in onesies.

    That's in the noise floor for the products that we have in mind. But
    it will cost a lot more than the fets we will be driving.

    What's interesting is that the schematic on the data sheet seems to
    show a p-channel GaN fet... on chip!


    Pretty cool driving 5V into 220 pF in 650 ps, for sure.

    Cheers

    Phil Hobbs


    I took that to be a regular silicon p-ch fet. Although the chip is intended >>to drive GaN devices isn’t it itself regular silicon- does the datasheet >>say it is fabricated from GaN?

    But the performance is amazing, if it is silicon.

    My alternative GaN gate driver would be a *lot* of Tiny Logic gate
    sections in parallel. Som of those are about as fast.

    We are also considering using a BUF602, 1 GHz bandwidth and 350 mA
    out, but it would need weird positive and negative supplies.

    We'll try all the above.

    I really want a fast SiC gate driver too. That would need close to 20
    volts swing. Most SiC drivers are isolated (which we don't need) and
    have huge prop delays, and probably correspondingly high jitter.

    My summer interns are playing with fast high voltage switchers on the
    theory that a product might emerge somehow.

    I does sound like people are putting several semi types on one chip.

    https://compoundsemiconductor.net/home

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  • From Phil Hobbs@21:1/5 to john larkin on Thu Jul 10 02:14:42 2025
    john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> wrote:
    On Wed, 09 Jul 2025 07:32:08 -0700, john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com>
    wrote:

    On Wed, 9 Jul 2025 10:58:13 -0000 (UTC), piglet
    <erichpwagner@hotmail.com> wrote:

    john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> wrote:
    On Tue, 8 Jul 2025 18:36:01 -0400, Phil Hobbs
    <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:

    On 2025-07-07 20:11, john larkin wrote:
    It's a TI GaNfet lowside gate driver. Insane specs.

    It's a nasty little leadless package. There's an even faster BGA
    version.

    I wish there was a higher-voltage version, for driving SiC parts.


    Yikes, nine bucks in onesies.

    That's in the noise floor for the products that we have in mind. But
    it will cost a lot more than the fets we will be driving.

    What's interesting is that the schematic on the data sheet seems to
    show a p-channel GaN fet... on chip!


    Pretty cool driving 5V into 220 pF in 650 ps, for sure.

    Cheers

    Phil Hobbs


    I took that to be a regular silicon p-ch fet. Although the chip is intended >>> to drive GaN devices isnÂ’t it itself regular silicon- does the datasheet >>> say it is fabricated from GaN?

    But the performance is amazing, if it is silicon.

    My alternative GaN gate driver would be a *lot* of Tiny Logic gate
    sections in parallel. Som of those are about as fast.

    We are also considering using a BUF602, 1 GHz bandwidth and 350 mA
    out, but it would need weird positive and negative supplies.

    We'll try all the above.

    I really want a fast SiC gate driver too. That would need close to 20
    volts swing. Most SiC drivers are isolated (which we don't need) and
    have huge prop delays, and probably correspondingly high jitter.

    My summer interns are playing with fast high voltage switchers on the
    theory that a product might emerge somehow.

    I does sound like people are putting several semi types on one chip.

    https://compoundsemiconductor.net/home




    In one package, anyway.

    Cheers

    Phil Hobbs

    --
    Dr Philip C D Hobbs Principal Consultant ElectroOptical Innovations LLC / Hobbs ElectroOptics Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics

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