You always expect to see (most) prices creep upwards, over time.But, lately, we have been seeing large jumps in consumer staples.E.g., the coffee we purchase went from $12.99/lb to $13.99/lb (in a week)and then to $18.99/lb two weeks after that.Lettucewas $1.84/head last week. $2.16 this week.So far, avocados seem to be relatively stable. (I would assume theywould reflect any disturbance in trade with MX).Are other people seeing similar "jumps"? Or, is this a local phenomenon?
Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> Wrote in message:rLettuce was $1.84/head last week. $2.16 this week.So far, avocados seem to be relatively stable. (I would assume theywould reflect any disturbance in trade with MX).Are other people seeing similar "jumps"? Or, is this a local phenomenon?
You always expect to see (most) prices creep upwards, over time.But, lately, we have been seeing large jumps in consumer staples.E.g., the coffee we purchase went from $12.99/lb to $13.99/lb (in a week)and then to $18.99/lb two weeks after that.
No, here the smaller cans of coffie are 7.99, used to be 3.99.
2 liter soda was 1.00 now 3.00
Its crazy, the more the left want to give away stuff, the more it
costs.
Cheers
Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> Wrote in message:rLettuce was $1.84/head last week. $2.16 this week.So far, avocados seem to be relatively stable. (I would assume theywould reflect any disturbance in trade with MX).Are other people seeing similar "jumps"? Or, is this a local phenomenon?
You always expect to see (most) prices creep upwards, over time.But, lately, we have been seeing large jumps in consumer staples.E.g., the coffee we purchase went from $12.99/lb to $13.99/lb (in a week)and then to $18.99/lb two weeks after that.
No, here the smaller cans of coffie are 7.99, used to be 3.99.
2 liter soda was 1.00 now 3.00
Its crazy, the more the left want to give away stuff, the more it
costs.
You always expect to see (most) prices creep upwards, over time.
But, lately, we have been seeing large jumps in consumer staples.
E.g., the coffee we purchase went from $12.99/lb to $13.99/lb (in a week)
and then to $18.99/lb two weeks after that.
Lettuce was $1.84/head last week. $2.16 this week.
So far, avocados seem to be relatively stable. (I would assume they
would reflect any disturbance in trade with MX).
Are other people seeing similar "jumps"? Or, is this a local phenomenon?
On 7/16/2025 3:55 AM, Don Y wrote:
You always expect to see (most) prices creep upwards, over time.
But, lately, we have been seeing large jumps in consumer staples.
E.g., the coffee we purchase went from $12.99/lb to $13.99/lb (in a week)
and then to $18.99/lb two weeks after that.
Lettuce was $1.84/head last week. $2.16 this week.
So far, avocados seem to be relatively stable. (I would assume they
would reflect any disturbance in trade with MX).
Are other people seeing similar "jumps"? Or, is this a local phenomenon?
Umm... isn't it the tariffs in action?
On 7/16/2025 4:33 PM, John S wrote:
On 7/16/2025 3:55 AM, Don Y wrote:
You always expect to see (most) prices creep upwards, over time.
But, lately, we have been seeing large jumps in consumer staples.
E.g., the coffee we purchase went from $12.99/lb to $13.99/lb (in a
week)
and then to $18.99/lb two weeks after that.
Lettuce was $1.84/head last week. $2.16 this week.
So far, avocados seem to be relatively stable. (I would assume they
would reflect any disturbance in trade with MX).
Are other people seeing similar "jumps"? Or, is this a local
phenomenon?
Umm... isn't it the tariffs in action?
Dunno. I suspect most people don't keep track of WHERE a product is sourced.
But a 50% increase on the coffee? 20% on the lettuce? Perhaps the increases
occurring at different times can be accounted for by "stock on hand".
I'll have to start watching prices more carefully; these were just so significant that they *demanded* your attention!
[It would be interesting to note if SALES quantities fall to yield a
constant
dollars effect. Likewise, it the Starbucks crowd sees a 50% price increase as a deterrent to buying that morning coffee and, instead, investing in a coffee maker!]
On 7/16/2025 6:49 PM, Don Y wrote:
On 7/16/2025 4:33 PM, John S wrote:
On 7/16/2025 3:55 AM, Don Y wrote:
You always expect to see (most) prices creep upwards, over time.Umm... isn't it the tariffs in action?
But, lately, we have been seeing large jumps in consumer staples.
E.g., the coffee we purchase went from $12.99/lb to $13.99/lb (in a week) >>>> and then to $18.99/lb two weeks after that.
Lettuce was $1.84/head last week. $2.16 this week.
So far, avocados seem to be relatively stable. (I would assume they
would reflect any disturbance in trade with MX).
Are other people seeing similar "jumps"? Or, is this a local phenomenon? >>>
Dunno. I suspect most people don't keep track of WHERE a product is sourced.
But a 50% increase on the coffee? 20% on the lettuce? Perhaps the increases
occurring at different times can be accounted for by "stock on hand".
I'll have to start watching prices more carefully; these were just so
significant that they *demanded* your attention!
[It would be interesting to note if SALES quantities fall to yield a constant
dollars effect. Likewise, it the Starbucks crowd sees a 50% price increase >> as a deterrent to buying that morning coffee and, instead, investing in a
coffee maker!]
IIRC coffee is from off shore and lettuce from California, probably. Off shore
will definitely be affected and lettuce just because. Everything else costs more now so why shouldn't lettuce?
On 2025-07-18 6:20 p.m., Don Y wrote:
On 7/18/2025 4:26 PM, John S wrote:
On 7/16/2025 6:49 PM, Don Y wrote:
On 7/16/2025 4:33 PM, John S wrote:
On 7/16/2025 3:55 AM, Don Y wrote:
You always expect to see (most) prices creep upwards, over time.
But, lately, we have been seeing large jumps in consumer staples.
E.g., the coffee we purchase went from $12.99/lb to $13.99/lb (in a >>>>>> week)
and then to $18.99/lb two weeks after that.
Lettuce was $1.84/head last week. $2.16 this week.
So far, avocados seem to be relatively stable. (I would assume they >>>>>> would reflect any disturbance in trade with MX).
Are other people seeing similar "jumps"? Or, is this a local
phenomenon?
Umm... isn't it the tariffs in action?
Dunno. I suspect most people don't keep track of WHERE a product is
sourced.
But a 50% increase on the coffee? 20% on the lettuce? Perhaps the
increases
occurring at different times can be accounted for by "stock on hand".
I'll have to start watching prices more carefully; these were just so
significant that they *demanded* your attention!
[It would be interesting to note if SALES quantities fall to yield a
constant
dollars effect. Likewise, it the Starbucks crowd sees a 50% price
increase
as a deterrent to buying that morning coffee and, instead, investing
in a
coffee maker!]
IIRC coffee is from off shore and lettuce from California, probably.
Off shore will definitely be affected and lettuce just because.
Everything else costs more now so why shouldn't lettuce?
As I said, you expect upward movement in prices. But 17% for lettuce in
a matter of days is suggestive of a seasonal shortage as we regularly
see with, e.g., blueberries climbing 25%... and then dropping back as
availability increases.
Consider the chilling effect of ICE on legal migrant workers who pick
the lettuce as a factor in prices.
If no one wants to come to work in your fields then you have no produce
to sell and the price goes up...what did you expect?
On 2025-07-18 6:20 p.m., Don Y wrote:
On 7/18/2025 4:26 PM, John S wrote:
On 7/16/2025 6:49 PM, Don Y wrote:
On 7/16/2025 4:33 PM, John S wrote:
On 7/16/2025 3:55 AM, Don Y wrote:
You always expect to see (most) prices creep upwards, over time.
But, lately, we have been seeing large jumps in consumer staples.
E.g., the coffee we purchase went from $12.99/lb to $13.99/lb (in a week)
and then to $18.99/lb two weeks after that.
Lettuce was $1.84/head last week. $2.16 this week.
So far, avocados seem to be relatively stable. (I would assume they >>>>>> would reflect any disturbance in trade with MX).
Are other people seeing similar "jumps"? Or, is this a local phenomenon?
Umm... isn't it the tariffs in action?
Dunno. I suspect most people don't keep track of WHERE a product is sourced.
But a 50% increase on the coffee? 20% on the lettuce? Perhaps the increases
occurring at different times can be accounted for by "stock on hand".
I'll have to start watching prices more carefully; these were just so
significant that they *demanded* your attention!
[It would be interesting to note if SALES quantities fall to yield a constant
dollars effect. Likewise, it the Starbucks crowd sees a 50% price increase
as a deterrent to buying that morning coffee and, instead, investing in a >>>> coffee maker!]
IIRC coffee is from off shore and lettuce from California, probably. Off >>> shore will definitely be affected and lettuce just because. Everything else >>> costs more now so why shouldn't lettuce?
As I said, you expect upward movement in prices. But 17% for lettuce in
a matter of days is suggestive of a seasonal shortage as we regularly
see with, e.g., blueberries climbing 25%... and then dropping back as
availability increases.
Consider the chilling effect of ICE on legal migrant workers who pick the lettuce as a factor in prices.
If no one wants to come to work in your fields then you have no produce to sell
and the price goes up...what did you expect?
As I said, you expect upward movement in prices. But 17% for lettuce in
a matter of days is suggestive of a seasonal shortage as we regularly
see with, e.g., blueberries climbing 25%... and then dropping back as availability increases.
Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> wrote:
As I said, you expect upward movement in prices. But 17% for lettuce in
a matter of days is suggestive of a seasonal shortage as we regularly
see with, e.g., blueberries climbing 25%... and then dropping back as
availability increases.
Stabilty of prices is as much psychological as a fundamental effect.
Some outlets regularly change prices to estimate what customers
are willing to pay. And when customers are expecting change,
busiensses may do much larger change than justified. Case in
point may be Germany changing currency to Euro. Prices had to
change and customers were not used to new prices, so busiensses
introduced large price increase.
Changes like you mention may be just random variation. But they
may be "probing" to find out potential for price increase.
Or even first examples of massive price growth.
Consider the chilling effect of ICE on legal migrant workers who pick
the lettuce as a factor in prices.
If no one wants to come to work in your fields then you have no produce
to sell and the price goes up...what did you expect?
Denmark and Japan and Maine somehow managed to feed themselves in the
past without millions of poorly-paid off-the-books illegal migrant
workers.
On 22/07/2025 8:04 am, Ralph Mowery wrote:
Do the other countries have all the free things for the non workers like
the US ? I doubt they do.
How's that free healthcare in the US?
In article <gt6q7kp4js4oq0cchdrbfief3i78f2157k@4ax.com>, jl@glen--
canyon.com says...
Consider the chilling effect of ICE on legal migrant workers who pick
the lettuce as a factor in prices.
If no one wants to come to work in your fields then you have no produce
to sell and the price goes up...what did you expect?
Denmark and Japan and Maine somehow managed to feed themselves in the
past without millions of poorly-paid off-the-books illegal migrant
workers.
Do the other countries have all the free things for the non workers like
the US ? I doubt they do.
Lettuce was $1.84/head last week. $2.16 this week.
On 7/16/2025 1:55 AM, Don Y wrote:
Lettuce was $1.84/head last week. $2.16 this week.
And $2.37 this week.
1.84 -> 2.16 is +17%
2.16 -> 2.37 is +10%
+29% in a couple of weeks.
Don we get bunches from Mexico?
On Mon, 28 Jul 2025 21:56:36 -0700, Don Y
<blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> wrote:
On 7/16/2025 1:55 AM, Don Y wrote:
Lettuce was $1.84/head last week. $2.16 this week.
And $2.37 this week.
1.84 -> 2.16 is +17%
2.16 -> 2.37 is +10%
+29% in a couple of weeks.
Might go down that much next week. Fresh veggies are seasonal.
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