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    From john larkin@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jul 18 10:37:52 2025
    The VMEbus is ancient, and we'd assumed it was a fading market.

    I wonder if this is real:

    https://www.wiseguyreports.com/reports/vme-board-market

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  • From Phil Hobbs@21:1/5 to john larkin on Fri Jul 18 18:53:57 2025
    john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> wrote:
    The VMEbus is ancient, and we'd assumed it was a fading market.

    I wonder if this is real:

    https://www.wiseguyreports.com/reports/vme-board-market





    Could be. There’s a lot, a lot of technical debt in legacy industrial
    SCADA, and apparently a lot of investment coming in domestic manufacturing.


    Cheers

    Phil Hobbs

    --
    Dr Philip C D Hobbs Principal Consultant ElectroOptical Innovations LLC / Hobbs ElectroOptics Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics

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  • From john larkin@21:1/5 to pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical. on Fri Jul 18 18:20:56 2025
    On Fri, 18 Jul 2025 18:53:57 -0000 (UTC), Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:

    john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> wrote:
    The VMEbus is ancient, and we'd assumed it was a fading market.

    I wonder if this is real:

    https://www.wiseguyreports.com/reports/vme-board-market





    Could be. There’s a lot, a lot of technical debt in legacy industrial
    SCADA, and apparently a lot of investment coming in domestic manufacturing.


    Cheers

    Phil Hobbs

    And a lot of military VME, we think. We'll probably buy the study if
    the price is non-outrageous.

    I'd love to have 1% of a 1.6B$ market.

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  • From Lasse Langwadt@21:1/5 to john larkin on Sat Jul 19 05:15:41 2025
    On 7/18/25 19:37, john larkin wrote:
    The VMEbus is ancient, and we'd assumed it was a fading market.

    I wonder if this is real:

    https://www.wiseguyreports.com/reports/vme-board-market


    an Indian site with some probably AI generated contentless slob, what do
    you think?

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  • From john larkin@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jul 18 20:19:52 2025
    On Sat, 19 Jul 2025 05:15:41 +0200, Lasse Langwadt <llc@fonz.dk>
    wrote:

    On 7/18/25 19:37, john larkin wrote:
    The VMEbus is ancient, and we'd assumed it was a fading market.

    I wonder if this is real:

    https://www.wiseguyreports.com/reports/vme-board-market


    an Indian site with some probably AI generated contentless slob, what do
    you think?


    They are offering a sample. I'll see.

    We need to confirm the sales total. I hope it's true.

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  • From Joe Gwinn@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jul 19 11:51:14 2025
    On Fri, 18 Jul 2025 20:19:52 -0700, john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com>
    wrote:

    On Sat, 19 Jul 2025 05:15:41 +0200, Lasse Langwadt <llc@fonz.dk>
    wrote:

    On 7/18/25 19:37, john larkin wrote:
    The VMEbus is ancient, and we'd assumed it was a fading market.

    I wonder if this is real:

    https://www.wiseguyreports.com/reports/vme-board-market


    an Indian site with some probably AI generated contentless slob, what do >>you think?


    They are offering a sample. I'll see.

    We need to confirm the sales total. I hope it's true.

    I'm suspicious. For one thing, the VME line is almost linear, while
    one would expect it to jiggle a lot like all other market things.
    Unless the over filtered the data.

    Wise Guy is a real company, based in Pune, India.

    Question is how accurate their reports are.

    There is a VMEbus trade association, VITA:

    .<https://www.vita.com/>

    They will know who the market research firms are, and may also have commissioned studies of their own.

    Joe

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  • From Lasse Langwadt@21:1/5 to john larkin on Sat Jul 19 18:31:15 2025
    On 7/19/25 05:19, john larkin wrote:
    On Sat, 19 Jul 2025 05:15:41 +0200, Lasse Langwadt <llc@fonz.dk>
    wrote:

    On 7/18/25 19:37, john larkin wrote:
    The VMEbus is ancient, and we'd assumed it was a fading market.

    I wonder if this is real:

    https://www.wiseguyreports.com/reports/vme-board-market


    an Indian site with some probably AI generated contentless slob, what do
    you think?


    They are offering a sample. I'll see.

    We need to confirm the sales total. I hope it's true.



    https://www.trustpilot.com/review/www.wiseguyreports.com

    the few positive reviews sounds lot like paid advertising ....

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  • From john larkin@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jul 19 12:51:53 2025
    On Sat, 19 Jul 2025 11:51:14 -0400, Joe Gwinn <joegwinn@comcast.net>
    wrote:

    On Fri, 18 Jul 2025 20:19:52 -0700, john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com>
    wrote:

    On Sat, 19 Jul 2025 05:15:41 +0200, Lasse Langwadt <llc@fonz.dk>
    wrote:

    On 7/18/25 19:37, john larkin wrote:
    The VMEbus is ancient, and we'd assumed it was a fading market.

    I wonder if this is real:

    https://www.wiseguyreports.com/reports/vme-board-market


    an Indian site with some probably AI generated contentless slob, what do >>>you think?


    They are offering a sample. I'll see.

    We need to confirm the sales total. I hope it's true.

    I'm suspicious. For one thing, the VME line is almost linear, while
    one would expect it to jiggle a lot like all other market things.
    Unless the over filtered the data.

    Wise Guy is a real company, based in Pune, India.

    Question is how accurate their reports are.

    There is a VMEbus trade association, VITA:

    .<https://www.vita.com/>

    They will know who the market research firms are, and may also have >commissioned studies of their own.

    Joe

    Yes. VITA has a serious-looking market study for $4000, half price for
    members. We may as well sign up again and buy both.

    It's a chore to find out what our competition makes: specs, pricing,
    volume. Sometimes I have an intern research it.

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  • From Joe Gwinn@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jul 20 15:54:01 2025
    On Sat, 19 Jul 2025 12:51:53 -0700, john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com>
    wrote:

    On Sat, 19 Jul 2025 11:51:14 -0400, Joe Gwinn <joegwinn@comcast.net>
    wrote:

    On Fri, 18 Jul 2025 20:19:52 -0700, john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> >>wrote:

    On Sat, 19 Jul 2025 05:15:41 +0200, Lasse Langwadt <llc@fonz.dk>
    wrote:

    On 7/18/25 19:37, john larkin wrote:
    The VMEbus is ancient, and we'd assumed it was a fading market.

    I wonder if this is real:

    https://www.wiseguyreports.com/reports/vme-board-market


    an Indian site with some probably AI generated contentless slob, what do >>>>you think?


    They are offering a sample. I'll see.

    We need to confirm the sales total. I hope it's true.

    I'm suspicious. For one thing, the VME line is almost linear, while
    one would expect it to jiggle a lot like all other market things.
    Unless the over filtered the data.

    Wise Guy is a real company, based in Pune, India.

    Question is how accurate their reports are.

    There is a VMEbus trade association, VITA:

    .<https://www.vita.com/>

    They will know who the market research firms are, and may also have >>commissioned studies of their own.

    Joe

    Yes. VITA has a serious-looking market study for $4000, half price for >members. We may as well sign up again and buy both.

    Both?


    It's a chore to find out what our competition makes: specs, pricing,
    volume. Sometimes I have an intern research it.

    A serious market survey well exceeds the capability of even the best
    of interns.

    I'd bet that the serious studies will be eye-opening.

    I also have a war study from the 1990s about the perils of surveys
    done by market-research organizations:

    I received by email a survey from a marketing organization asking for
    opinions on realtime operating systems and the like. While the
    questions were imprecise, as is common for such surveys, there was a
    howler:

    The survey form itself required one to use a Microsoft product, MS
    Excel if I recall. Now in that day a major fraction of the creators
    and users of realtime software were in the growing UNIX/Linux
    community, most being men with beards and ponytails who cursed and
    spat on the ground at the very mention of Microsoft. So the study was
    doomed to irrelevance at birth. That study was never published.

    Joe

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  • From Theo@21:1/5 to john larkin on Tue Jul 22 12:54:08 2025
    john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> wrote:
    On Sat, 19 Jul 2025 05:15:41 +0200, Lasse Langwadt <llc@fonz.dk>
    wrote:

    On 7/18/25 19:37, john larkin wrote:
    The VMEbus is ancient, and we'd assumed it was a fading market.

    I wonder if this is real:

    https://www.wiseguyreports.com/reports/vme-board-market


    an Indian site with some probably AI generated contentless slob, what do >you think?


    They are offering a sample. I'll see.

    We need to confirm the sales total. I hope it's true.

    There are a ton of garbage 'outlook' reports all over Amazon, they just word salad search terms together and fill the middle with slop:

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/2026-2031-World-Outlook-Duodenoscopes/dp/B0FHQNXR2Y https://www.amazon.co.uk/2026-2031-World-Outlook-Adult-Diapers/dp/B0FFPMW82B https://www.amazon.co.uk/2026-2031-World-Outlook-Extruded-Snacks/dp/B0FHQR7CW3 https://www.amazon.co.uk/2026-2031-World-Outlook-Double-Acting-Piston/dp/B0FHKC7CVT
    and thousands more.

    For the retrocomputing enthusiast: https://www.amazon.co.uk/2025-2030-World-Outlook-Paper-Tapes/dp/B0CZ2H7W86

    Speaking of salad: https://www.amazon.co.uk/2025-2030-World-Outlook-Creamy-Dressings/dp/B0CZ2HHGTH?

    This genre predates AI, so were filled with 'classic' slop. No doubt the
    new versions are fully AI generated for extra plausibility.

    Theo

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