I just worked out that in my (UK) house (with my children long gone!).
The electric standby items are going to cost £452 UKP per year at
October 2022 going forward cap levels, and of course more again at the
next cap level(s) in 2023.
I have used 52 pence per kWh and 58 pence per day service charge. YMMV. Measurement was taken at the supply meter with no items full running.
As a quick reference it works out that every 1 Watt on standby (October
22 to December 22) is going to cost about 5.10 UKP over a year.
Standby items Include: PIR detectors, radios, Desktop computer+perifs
(but no printer), TV, TV boxes, players, washing machine, dishwasher,
AirCon, timers, boiler, chargers, HiFi, etc,etc.
(the laser colour printer was gobbling 20W continuous to keep itself
warm on standby so I keep it fully switched off except when in use and
it is excluded from the cost figure above).
My standby figure also includes some essential "always on" items but
only at their standby level.
Fridge, cooker, microwave, deep freeze, and Land line DECT phone base
come in this category.
Also my BB Router(7W) and alarm system which are full on all the time
albeit at low-ish consumption levels.
So I think your standby items are maybe worth a thought. A plug-in Watt
meter is useful for finding out which things are hogs to run on standby!
C+
I just worked out that in my (UK) house (with my children long gone!).
The electric standby items are going to cost £452 UKP per year at
October 2022 going forward cap levels, and of course more again at the
next cap level(s) in 2023.
I have used 52 pence per kWh and 58 pence per day service charge. YMMV. >Measurement was taken at the supply meter with no items full running.
As a quick reference it works out that every 1 Watt on standby (October
22 to December 22) is going to cost about 5.10 UKP over a year.
Standby items Include: PIR detectors, radios, Desktop computer+perifs
(but no printer), TV, TV boxes, players, washing machine, dishwasher,
AirCon, timers, boiler, chargers, HiFi, etc,etc.
(the laser colour printer was gobbling 20W continuous to keep itself
warm on standby so I keep it fully switched off except when in use and
it is excluded from the cost figure above).
My standby figure also includes some essential "always on" items but
only at their standby level.
Fridge, cooker, microwave, deep freeze, and Land line DECT phone base
come in this category.
Also my BB Router(7W) and alarm system which are full on all the time
albeit at low-ish consumption levels.
So I think your standby items are maybe worth a thought. A plug-in Watt
meter is useful for finding out which things are hogs to run on standby!
C+
On 01/09/2022 11:01, Charlie+ wrote:
I just worked out that in my (UK) house (with my children long gone!).
The electric standby items are going to cost £452 UKP per year at
October 2022 going forward cap levels, and of course more again at the
next cap level(s) in 2023.
I have used 52 pence per kWh and 58 pence per day service charge. YMMV.
Measurement was taken at the supply meter with no items full running.
As a quick reference it works out that every 1 Watt on standby (October
22 to December 22) is going to cost about 5.10 UKP over a year.
Standby items Include: PIR detectors, radios, Desktop computer+perifs
(but no printer), TV, TV boxes, players, washing machine, dishwasher,
AirCon, timers, boiler, chargers, HiFi, etc,etc.
(the laser colour printer was gobbling 20W continuous to keep itself
warm on standby so I keep it fully switched off except when in use and
it is excluded from the cost figure above).
My standby figure also includes some essential "always on" items but
only at their standby level.
Fridge, cooker, microwave, deep freeze, and Land line DECT phone base
come in this category.
Also my BB Router(7W) and alarm system which are full on all the time
albeit at low-ish consumption levels.
So I think your standby items are maybe worth a thought. A plug-in Watt
meter is useful for finding out which things are hogs to run on standby!
C+
Every single watt you 'consume' ends up as heat after doing what you
want it to. And heat is useful stuff you need most of the year. If you
don't get it from your electricals, you'll need to get it from something
else that costs you money. So, what you think you'll gain by turning everything off is likely to be considerably less than you calculate.
Besides, you can't escape any 'service charge', so you won't save any of that.
Norman Wells <hex@unseen.ac.am> wrote:
On 01/09/2022 11:01, Charlie+ wrote:
I just worked out that in my (UK) house (with my children long gone!).
The electric standby items are going to cost £452 UKP per year at
October 2022 going forward cap levels, and of course more again at the
next cap level(s) in 2023.
I have used 52 pence per kWh and 58 pence per day service charge. YMMV.
Measurement was taken at the supply meter with no items full running.
As a quick reference it works out that every 1 Watt on standby (October
22 to December 22) is going to cost about 5.10 UKP over a year.
Standby items Include: PIR detectors, radios, Desktop computer+perifs
(but no printer), TV, TV boxes, players, washing machine, dishwasher,
AirCon, timers, boiler, chargers, HiFi, etc,etc.
(the laser colour printer was gobbling 20W continuous to keep itself
warm on standby so I keep it fully switched off except when in use and
it is excluded from the cost figure above).
My standby figure also includes some essential "always on" items but
only at their standby level.
Fridge, cooker, microwave, deep freeze, and Land line DECT phone base
come in this category.
Also my BB Router(7W) and alarm system which are full on all the time
albeit at low-ish consumption levels.
So I think your standby items are maybe worth a thought. A plug-in Watt
meter is useful for finding out which things are hogs to run on standby! >>> C+
Every single watt you 'consume' ends up as heat after doing what you
want it to. And heat is useful stuff you need most of the year. If you
don't get it from your electricals, you'll need to get it from something
else that costs you money. So, what you think you'll gain by turning
everything off is likely to be considerably less than you calculate.
Besides, you can't escape any 'service charge', so you won't save any of
that.
But your electrical heat costs about 4 times your gas heat, and is also unwanted in summer.
I just worked out that in my (UK) house (with my children long gone!).
The electric standby items are going to cost £452 UKP per year at
October 2022 going forward cap levels, and of course more again at the
next cap level(s) in 2023.
I have used 52 pence per kWh and 58 pence per day service charge. YMMV. Measurement was taken at the supply meter with no items full running.
As a quick reference it works out that every 1 Watt on standby (October
22 to December 22) is going to cost about 5.10 UKP over a year.
Standby items Include: PIR detectors, radios, Desktop computer+perifs
(but no printer), TV, TV boxes, players, washing machine, dishwasher,
AirCon, timers, boiler, chargers, HiFi, etc,etc.
(the laser colour printer was gobbling 20W continuous to keep itself
warm on standby so I keep it fully switched off except when in use and
it is excluded from the cost figure above).
My standby figure also includes some essential "always on" items but
only at their standby level.
Fridge, cooker, microwave, deep freeze, and Land line DECT phone base
come in this category.
Also my BB Router(7W) and alarm system which are full on all the time
albeit at low-ish consumption levels.
So I think your standby items are maybe worth a thought. A plug-in Watt
meter is useful for finding out which things are hogs to run on standby!
C+
The best way to save on your energy bills this winter is actually to go
on holiday for a month somewhere warm. Turn off everything at home and
it could be worth a £500 discount off the price.
In article <aa01hhp92jcjldr8iv8qsio6jha6duaoc8@4ax.com>, Charlie+ ><charlie@xxx.net> scribeth thus
I just worked out that in my (UK) house (with my children long gone!).
The electric standby items are going to cost £452 UKP per year at
October 2022 going forward cap levels, and of course more again at the
next cap level(s) in 2023.
I have used 52 pence per kWh and 58 pence per day service charge. YMMV. >>Measurement was taken at the supply meter with no items full running.
As a quick reference it works out that every 1 Watt on standby (October
22 to December 22) is going to cost about 5.10 UKP over a year.
Standby items Include: PIR detectors, radios, Desktop computer+perifs
(but no printer), TV, TV boxes, players, washing machine, dishwasher, >>AirCon, timers, boiler, chargers, HiFi, etc,etc.
(the laser colour printer was gobbling 20W continuous to keep itself
warm on standby so I keep it fully switched off except when in use and
it is excluded from the cost figure above).
My standby figure also includes some essential "always on" items but
only at their standby level.
Fridge, cooker, microwave, deep freeze, and Land line DECT phone base
come in this category.
Also my BB Router(7W) and alarm system which are full on all the time >>albeit at low-ish consumption levels.
So I think your standby items are maybe worth a thought. A plug-in Watt >>meter is useful for finding out which things are hogs to run on standby!
C+
Prolly stick a 350 or so watt rated solar panel out in the yard and a
simple inverter that will now pay for itself quite quickly!...
Not bad thinking but the inverter could not be very simple - it would
need to sync perfectly to the mains already running.. shut down in a
power cut, restart etc. Then there are always "the regulations" ! C+
Prolly stick a 350 or so watt rated solar panel out in the yard and a
simple inverter that will now pay for itself quite quickly!...
tony sayer wrote:
Prolly stick a 350 or so watt rated solar panel out in the yard and a
simple inverter that will now pay for itself quite quickly!...
Over the course of a year (don't know where charlie is based, so assume >midlands) a 350W panel will average under 1 kWh per day throughout the year, can
offset what you'd buy at 52p, rather than expect to sell it for 5p since you'd >need a certified installation for SEG tariffs.
A G98 compliant micro-inverter is the minimum you can fit, doesn't need to be a
certified installation (get a sparky in, or look into it and DIY) you don't need
to ask permission from the DNO to install one, just need to notify them you >will/have done so.
<https://www.spenergynetworks.co.uk/pages/single_g98_generator_connections.aspx>
£200 for the panel, £150 for a micro inverter, plus some cables and isolators, >to save £170 off the electricity bill? You decide ...
That "just under" 1 kW over the year average is that in a 24 hour period
That "just under" 1 kW over the year average is that in a 24 hour period
Or is it just the daylight hours whatever they might be?..
tony sayer wrote:
That "just under" 1 kW over the year average is that in a 24 hour period
He said kilo Watt hour per day, not kilo Watt.
On 04/09/2022 15:03, tony sayer wrote:
That "just under" 1 kW over the year average is that in a 24 hour period
He said kilo Watt hour per day, not kilo Watt.
A kilo Watt hour per day is on average (1 kilo Watt * (1 hour / 24
hours)), so on average 1/24th of a kilo Watt, averaged over 24*365.24... >continuous hours.
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