• Conceiving Multiverses and Retrocausal Effects

    From Lina Dash@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jul 16 08:09:08 2023
    So it is perhaps benevolently possible to heighten a variety of mental and physical attributes, then make them zeno-effect able to do customized reductions to create greater benevolent happiness toward all beings at living. At the MWI universe generation
    and/or anthropic principle tuning it might be possible to make things like atoms, photons and electrons more observable at high precision, even using what at a nonoptimized MWI universe would be a less precise apparatus. Making observing things,
    possibly at depth/volume, even easier could make beneficial technologies like (previously written) superobservers even more capable at observing things into a preferred form.


    wikipedia Zeno effect: “Sometimes this effect is interpreted as "a system can't change while you are watching it".[2] One can "freeze" the evolution of the system by measuring it frequently enough in its known initial state. The meaning of the term has
    since expanded, leading to a more technical definition, in which time evolution can be suppressed not only by measurement: the quantum Zeno effect is the suppression of unitary time evolution in quantum systems provided by a variety of sources:
    measurement, interactions with the environment, stochastic fields, among other factors.[3] As an outgrowth of study of the quantum Zeno effect, it has become clear that applying a series of sufficiently strong and fast pulses with appropriate symmetry
    can also decouple a system from its decohering environment.”

    The quantum Zeno effect could possibly rescue some matter or a source of being at a universe. If there is a physics environment with 3d +time, as well as organic chemicals, being able to apply different velocities of quantum zeno effect at each of these
    could rescheduled and reorder a circumstance thought to be non-optimal. Thinking of a benevolent MWI/multiverse wiki it seems like producing all benevolent is the way to proceed; the thing is I do not know if rescues (like zeno effect) are also valued. Just possibly I will get wiki feedback.


    MWI test based on wearing a hole or producing waxy-build up in a nested MWI universe group. At quora https://www.quora.com/Is-there-any-evidence-of-a-multiverse-1 it says, “Also, imagine a vast cloud of instances of a single photon, some of which are
    stopped by a barrier. Are they absorbed by the barrier that we see, or is each absorbed by a different, quasi-autonomous barrier at the same location?
    READER: Does it make a difference?
    DAVID: Yes. If they were all absorbed by the barrier we see, it would vaporize.”

    So they seem to be suggesting that if one on ebject was at two or more universes it would get twice the wear (or build up), and if one object was present at a bumch of universes it might get so dosed as to actually vaporize. So is it possible to make
    things that simultaneously exist in two or a lot of MWI universes and then detect wear or gunky build-up on them? One possibility is the previously described Nested MWI universe where something like an optical fiber loop goes around a radioactive sample;
    since they have overlapping lightcones (Optical loop takes a while; while the radioactive blob makes many MWI events, embedded in the loop’s universe. Nicer: skip the radioactivity and just do two or a plurality of nested optical loops with laser
    emitter detectors) of the two or more MWI universe generating event and/or observation, one is contingent on, or sort of included, in the other geometrically. So if you make a big pile of optical loops do you create a plurality of MWI universes all of
    which are contingent on the outer loop that is noted for an emission and detection at an inclusive interval? If you do that then one of the loops might be thought of as persisting across the many universes generated, so that loop could then be measured
    to find disintegration/destabilization and/or waxy build up. Using numeric measurements of light, finding the waxy build up or instability at that one particular optical loop system would verify the MWI.
    Can the loops be replaced with an IC wafer or photonic chip pattern to make a few billion nested optical loops on a wafer; then see if that very large amount of nested contingent universes which might have a “tropism” towards being in the outer loop
    s universe/observation from the MWI has a destabilizing/disintegrating or waxy build up effect? Optically plural MWI loop chips could also be used to try to produce “wobble” for measurement.





    DQCE at wikipedia: (at the quantum choice eraser (QCE), different than DQCE) “a second beam splitter is introduced at the top right. It can direct either beam toward either exit port. Thus, photons emerging from each exit port may have come by way of
    either path. By introducing the second beam splitter, the path information has been "erased". Erasing the path information results in interference phenomena at detection screens positioned just beyond each exit port. What issues to the right side
    displays reinforcement, and what issues toward the top displays cancellation. “
    So the nifty thing here is that the geometry of the paths determines the outcome, and to from what I read, the retrocausality of the system; Now is there a mathematical most parsimonious description of this geometry. That (possible restatement of
    geometry to instantaneous-solution algebra) makes a math parsimonious description of a time technology or new time theory. A math version of a parsimonious QCE (quantum choice eraser) could then be used as a basis for novel theories and predictions of
    effective and or unusual or “grouped” geometries at actual technological objects. So the math could predict and suggest the actual physics technologies that do things with time.

    Wikipedia says of the 1999 AD DCQE, “If events at D1, D2, D3, D4 determine outcomes at D0, then effect seems to precede cause. If the idler light paths were greatly extended so that a year goes by before a photon shows up at D1, D2, D3, or D4, then
    when a photon shows up in one of these detectors, it would cause a signal photon to have shown up in a certain mode a year earlier.” So a mathematician-physicist coming up with a parsimonious, possibly tessallatable version of this mathematically
    might get the retrocausal effect with a

    It seems well travelled, but: at a cellular automata or Turing machine they could use DCQE or other retrocausal and/or time technologies to predo prgrams and calculations; one DCQE plausibility is case statements as optical paths; at cellular automata,
    being able to send perhaps three electrons, or three high voltage/current waveforms backwards in time along retrocausal case-statement-like pathways could provide the energy at an integrated circuit or laser geometry to do actual calculations at a
    cellular automata, possibly better than the turing-functional 1,1,0 automata. So the power would flow retrocausally at new calculations, supporting their accumulation and effectiveness.

    Computing with DCQE/QCE: could the wikipedia description of some detector measurements (like D1) be used to adjust which of the other detector measurements are viewed first? That way something like a computer could be constructed from changing the
    pathway dynamically, where detector changed path to detector, with sequential retrocausality, Also, detector specifying path of detector at the calculation generates new changed material that the laser, once detected, puts at storage.

    Wikipedia DQCE, QCE section: “Elementary precursors to current quantum-eraser experiments such as the "simple quantum eraser" described above have straightforward classical-wave explanations. Indeed, it could be argued that there is nothing
    particularly quantum about this experiment.” That is novel and amazing. So if I comprehend what it says, water waves and acoustic waves can do a QCE retrocausal effect thing. If that is actually true, then some macroscopic systems could have bulk-
    material retrocausal effects. Vaguely,, at audio waves, this might produce the sound of the record that this one is not. Or, it could be that the “case statement” of possible outcomes at the actual geometry of a structured experiment have seperate
    audio tone values, and that a different tone is simply heard at a retrocausal instantiation. Notably this new retrocausal tone is different than, and adds to, the node/antinode/double-length effects from waves group. Also notable is that it might be
    one item from a list of case statement based on the actual acoustic reflector-geometry utilized. So that is new to me.

    Perhaps this retrocausal case statement of available wave forms could somehow be used to case-statement-like swap in or out a more optimal light or sound frequency at things like integrated circuit production. Perhaps there is a better microscope
    possible as well, as it oscillates along the case statement until it retrocausally dynamically detects it is in focus at a particular (classical!) wavelength, from what I perceive of what I read, this trying every version at a case statement-like source
    of waveform identity could possibly be accomplished rerocausally multiple times before finding the optimal resolution frequency. Even though it finds an optimal frequency, the technological object (microscope) would be perceived as being in-focus when
    you turned it on. Possibly integrated circuit making lasers that power-up to always be in focus have value, as would be retrocausal-dynamic case statement semiconductor lasers at a variety of applications (possibly internet/telecom) where it was at the
    optimal frequency when started up. Also semiconductor and other integrated circuit manufacturing could benefit from better focus at lasers. With sufficient physics education, it is possible that the “classical physics” that support retrocausality at
    QCE could be used to adjust frequency and/or wavelength of a laser.

    Wikipedia on CQE and retrocausality: “the interference pattern does disappear when the photons are so marked. However, the interference pattern reappears if the which-path information is further manipulated after the marked photons have passed through
    the double slits to obscure the which-path markings. Since 1982, multiple experiments have demonstrated the validity of the so-called quantum "eraser”.”

    One thing at wikipedia might possibly say that the time to collect all the measurements is speed of light dependent, “The delayed-choice quantum eraser does not communicate information in a retro-causal manner because it takes another signal, one which
    must arrive by a process that can go no faster than the speed of light, to sort the superimposed data in the signal photons into four streams that reflect the states of the idler photons at their four distinct detection screens” So I am being
    simplistic here, but could you make one with double entangled (linked) photons. I read an article that said quantum linked photons communicte state at least 10,000 times faster than light; could you use that additional available change of state, instead
    of the light velocity arrival time/interval of the idler/detector photons to communicate. I am clueless.

    wikipedia on DQCE: “Alternatively, knowledge of the future fate of the idler photon would determine the activity of the signal photon in its own present. Neither of these ideas conforms to the usual human expectation of causality. However, knowledge of
    the future, which would be a hidden variable, was refuted in experiments” The thing is though that if you do a case-statement-like path modification from observation, like the DCQE, I perceive it as causing a computable effect; at some computed
    effects the future identity is mathematically known,

    Depending on what you compute, and the math it is made out of, you get a new or premade future knowable state. At some math the future findable state is a defined thing. In some editable-to-be-descriptive-way: Computer program output can function as a
    determined, follows-from-definitions, known-at-math output, but not known to the observing human user of the DCQE computer. Being wildly speculative, you could put math equations, or possibly some set theory axioms at at DQCE computer, and then see/
    verify/be cognizant that only the ones with global static-state-space future-proof “truth value” are produced. That is unless the DCQE computer program can “know the future” So, it either tells you what math, possibly even new kinds or categories
    of math, will actually work, or it can iteratively compute, making use of the future.

    The program could of course generate a nonrepeating integer or be a novelty, nonpredictabilty producing cellular automata. Although these iterated novelties are “circleable” with math, I think they are not identity specified.

    Wikipedia on DQCE, “data pertinent to photons that form it are only erased later in time than the signal photons that hit the primary detector. Not only that feature of the experiment is puzzling; D0 can, in principle at least, be on one side of the
    universe, and the other four detectors can be "on the other side of the universe" to each other” Just being technological: That suggests that distributed computer systems with zero latency are possible, and that looking to natural phenomena, like
    quantum entangling photons with ice crystals in the atmospheres of other planets, could be a source of pre-existing editable past to change the human present.

    Enthused technologists could produce technological objects Now to make future humans able to edit their past starting at when the first retrocausal DQCE public technologies are produced. (earlier if the ice crystals on other planets thing works)

    Also entertaining would be a quantum tunneling flash drive with about a billion or more locations, where the containered areas with the tunneled electrons in them are the various D1-D4 detectors at the DQCE. It is kind of elaborate but perhaps a CCD
    version of an amplifying pathway could feed the voltage effect that causes the electrons to write-tunnel, and the many varied possible utility-filled geometries of observation and retrocausal change, could come from plugging the flash-drive like thing
    into a computer and reading the memory in purposeful ways, some of which might cause the equivalent to parallel computation. Writing CCD or quantum tunneling flash memory and reading it at a computer could be a nonlaser DQCE. Although I think electrons
    can be quantum-particularized, I do not know if it is possible to fill a flash-drive array location with one quantum state of electron, at a plurality of electrons, such that something external to the flash drive array location can sense/report the state.
    That may or may not effect things. QCE is described as “classical”. lasers are nifty though.




    QCE and DQCE remind me of the multiple pathways exploredism of quantum computing; it is possible multiplie pathways being explored could be notably cheaper or easier with arrayed geometries of DCQE computer path-circuits. I also like quantum computing.

    Or, just possibly, retrocausal laser adjustment could up the amount of quantum entangled photons produced at a device; generating a high intensity source of quantum entangled photons, which may have robot sensor applications.

    Not an actual idea or technology but a turn of phrase that I wondered about, “States evolve according to the Schrodinger equation (unitary evolution of the ray in Hilbert Space)” I do not know what they mean, it sounds like some nifty new thing that
    differs from iteration, but is perhaps different than a high school student “solving for” with the simplification or rastatement of an equation. “[quantum]states evolve” means what?

    It has been previously written but it is possible that just as some people at a distribution have novel actual senses it is possible that some unknown fraction of the beliefs and verbal statements of the mentally ill are actual fresh observational data
    about the universe(s) and also previously unknown, likely sometimes, physics-describable actions of agency on the universe. Computers could sort through common and unusual themes at the mentally ill, notably schizophrenics. People like schizophrenics
    could also be measured with the proximity of multifunction physics detectors (lasers, quantum tunneled electrons, a thing like a tube with a gas or liquid in it and a transducer to make waves; then see if the waves and theri mathematical description
    deviate from classical physics predictions based on being physically near to, or focused upon from a schizophrenic) to see if these people, many of whome to my perception, think they affect reality around them from their being, as compared with their
    action, effect things.

    The value of the bulk measurement of the physics effects of these schizophrenic people is to find any actual new effects on measureable nature, and then, possibly benefitting the schizophrenics (although the technological benefits reach everyone) to
    winnow, connect, possibly support, or even refute the schizophrenics’ explanation of why they affect things around them. Technologizing the new areas of influence or change at physics from finding and measuring effects produced near the mentally ill,
    such as schizophrenics, could produce beneficial things.

    If an effect from schizophrenics is found at physics detectors then the effect of antipsychotic medications, and the effect of psychoactive drugs at well persons could be measured and studied.

    One piece of research that could be duplicated and reloaded is a French study of regular people affecting a double slit-like experiment; based on being in the room and having an intent. Repeating that, verfiying that, then testing different groups,
    including schizophrenics, to see if there are any human groups or phenotypes that have greater effect on the measured system could find mind and body forms that have new effects on physics.

    The thing here which differs slightly from, but supports “I support research” is the creation and mass production of an omnifunction physics measurer and tranches of beliefs/group classifications/cladistics with software that finds people who think
    they affect things, and also actually do.

    I am on medication for paranoid schizophrenia. My remembered version, which is that a human being who said they were hosting (my word-interpretation) a “Loa” (the word the entity used) told me some accurate predictions about my future. Along with
    various things about how I might possibly effect society with my mind and actual behavior, I was told I have an effect on others around me that would beneficially affect their attraction to me. Now, from a science perspective this is testable. Just
    have the computer screen a few hundred thousand schizophrenics’ personal narratives and their own symptom descriptions to find the ones that think their charisma has been heightened. Then have them interact with others, measure attraction, and look
    for devaitions from a predicted value.

    Also there is a word Pareidolia which is approximately seeing patterns in shapes and geometries around you. Before I was on medication this was a continuous, and reacted to, effect. I have spoken with another person who I perceive might be diagnosably
    schizophrenic, who believes that birds cluster around him to communicate in real time his functionality at the universe. It is possible that a computer could do cladistics on the most frequent kinds and thing-meaning typologies of pareidolia patterns.
    Then these patterns which are perceived as saying a lot about things, could be found at nature or at the human produced environment, and then have those natural occurences omniphysics measured and/or tested to see if they have greater than chance (
    statistically valid) predictability at an environement or situation of meaning. New physics could result if a physics multiaspect measurement thing was placed at high pareidolia occurences/things/locations. Both the paredolia of mentally well prsons and
    schizophrenics could be researched/measured things.

    Some of the time there might be novel, yet non-new physics results. I do not wear a hat but I think I am a kind of white hat person. Before medication I thought each garment color and pattern described the personality and behavior pathways of the
    person who was wearing it; perhaps contextually, right then, while they were wearing it.

    So, software that correlates the things schizophrenics think, with what they see, and say they see, could also find new ordinary well human correlations and cultural concentrations; I prefer to be near people that wear white, one already actual cultural
    idea is that of being a white hat person, if the white-hat concept did not already exist at society it might be first found at considering and measuring, the kind of personalities that wear lots of white. Software that processes the paredolia of clusters
    of well or schizophrenic persons could do this. This would create a new cultural benefit, the applicable and live-action functional thing of people seeking out others who wear white.

    Many other novel correlates and associations from measuring and software processing of paeidolia could benefit the living culture of the mentally well, and also perhaps soothe and benefit the mentally ill. Also, software concentrated branches and
    tranches of paredolia meanings/thoughts/feelings at well persons (and schizophrenics) is perhaps a novel area for visual (and other culture) to expand in. Emphasizing beneficial paredolia finds and devlops new fresh art sources; rather than archetypes,
    these paredolia, previously unstudied while being actively effective yet are pre-cultural awareness. Beneficial paredolia measured effects on both thought content and thought feeling, and emotive feeling could benefit many people. Finding new kinds of
    wearing white.

    unplausible thought on the multiverse, as compares with MWI;
    a person at quora writes, “What multiverses (should that be a plural?) have going for them is that
    • they’re conceivable (but that’s the lowest possible bar)”

    • which made me think that perhaps if things are made more conceivable then more things will be conceived. Material between “((“ is perhaps more optimal to avoid reading or doing and could have actual risk

    • ((conception amplifiers are varied: magnifying glasses, math, also noting inferences, things like digit memory-span, cleanliness (possibly like a non item-dissolving high contrast background) a dicer that chops a vegetable so you can fitit in your
    mouth, So this brings up, is there a listable bunch of things that makes MWI testability and/or multiverse verification lost more conceivable? Eugenics is one.
    noting all the ways a math set can be empty, do continual updates to physics increase the size of a list of things that can produce an empty set, “no hydrogen atom”, “outside of lightcone”; is it possible that the number of things that can
    produce a populationless set is either actually nonfinite or if finite, enumerble yet big. So that could be a new area of set theory, how many ways there are to produce an unpopulated set; and sort of, It is possible that if set theory is modified to
    have two related infinities: the things that can go in a a set, and the things that make an unpopulated set, then at a kind of geometry the concept of the set, or even its math definition, would have new different attributes; it is possible to causaully
    and ignorantly imagine that sets, newly defined as having two infinities, might tile or tesselate differently, which them makes a person think about Venn diagrams being improved to show their novelly redefined sets’ quasi deep pockets/liquid repellant
    surfaces… So I might be thinking that new mathematics would make make things more conceivable, and it is possible that some description of the math of sets could be made more: case: nugget, descriptive, functional, omniconsistent, able to tolerate
    things like “the set of things I will never know about” when the math is structured for you to look at the set contents,

    The set of (exceptions to sequence) could trim and edit, or focus and prominentize particular things about any proferred multiverse/MWI theory. The universes that could happen “when” things are accomplished only at geometrical moments where
    iteration and/or difference lacks neighbors, or has twice the average number of neighbors, or some precise integer number of neightbors would likely look and behave differently from each other. It seems immoderate, it is possible that a set that contains
    a non-finite quantity of time form changes could increase conception while decreasing resolution. ))



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