• Re: "North Pole Could Be Ice Free In 2000, uh 2008, uh, 2014, uh,

    From Mittens Romney@21:1/5 to Dhu on Gate on Tue Sep 3 09:05:42 2024
    XPost: can.politics, alt.global-warming

    Dhu on Gate wrote:
    On Mon, 2 Sep 2024 14:22:26 -0700, Alan wrote:

    On 2024-09-02 14:12, Dave Smith wrote:
    On 2024-09-02 4:50 p.m., Alan wrote:
    On 2024-09-02 13:42, Mittens Romney wrote:
    Alan wrote:
    On 2024-09-02 12:44, Dhu on Gate wrote:
    On Mon, 2 Sep 2024 09:43:48 -0700, Alan wrote:

    On 2024-09-02 09:33, Skeeter wrote:
    In article <vb4ov2$2thdj$3@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says... >>>>>>>>>>
    On 2024-09-02 07:14, AlleyCat wrote:

    On Sun, 1 Sep 2024 13:24:29 -0700,Β  Alan says...

    And just to be clear, that "record low" from 2007 was broken... >>>>>>>>>>>
    And just to be clear, ALL of those records are not in play >>>>>>>>>>> anymore, since... you know... the ice has come
    back.

    So much for global warming.

    Has it, though?

    Has the Arctic ice minimum fallen from 6.9 million square
    kilometres in
    1979 to 4.37 million square kilometres in 2023?

    So what. The world will do whatever it wants.

    Again, you don't see the cognitive dissonance.

    Another ad-hominem, aye?

    Nope.

    You not understanding what "cognitive dissonance" means doesn't make >>>>>> it and ad hominem (which doesn't get a hyphen, BTW)

    You fetid bot-twat, you wept like a crybaby when I semantically
    disassembled your "create fresh water" mumble-news into mockery.

    You're a sad drink of hypocritical spite.


    Are you always utterly delusional...

    ...or is it only when you're drunk or on other drugs?

    Is this the same ice cap that has been receding since the end of the
    last ice age?Β  I live in the middle of the Niagara Peninsula and just
    about a mile north of my house is the Fonthill kame, a pile of sand and
    gravel that was deposited here as the glaciers started to melt and
    recede. They have been receding for about 15000 years. They were
    receding since men lived in caves. I am not saying man has not impacted
    the rate of recession but I think it is pretty clear that it is
    happening anyway, just like it had happened four times before this.


    But whether we have changed the rate matters.

    Why? We've changed that "rate" before: HomoE burned Sibr from Yurp to Korea and we're still here. The whole "climate change catastrophe" is a media event intended to make the rich richer and blame the commons for their current,
    and chronic, mismanagement.

    Dhu


    100% true!

    https://www.zerohedge.com/weather/atlantic-tropics-are-completely-broken

    The Atlantic tropics are completely broken, unable to produce tropical
    storms even w/off the charts "climate fueled" oceans.

    Our models no longer work, forecasters can't figure it out. This is not normal.

    While Saharan dust clouds have contributed to dry and stable air just
    above the surface, the circulation from the Northeast Atlantic over the
    cold Canary Current has penetrated even more dry air deep into the
    tropics. We haven't seen this in 50 years.

    The meteorologist pointed to the massive 2022 eruption of the underwater volcano in Tonga, known as Hunga Tonga-Hunga Ha'apai, that catapulted
    plumes of soot, water vapor, and sulfur dioxide into the stratosphere,
    leading to what some are saying is the driving force behind the Earth's
    most recent warming trends...

    Separately, John Shewchuk, a certified consulting meteorologist, wrote on X:

    "This is expected because of the unprecedented Tonga volcano which is
    causing an unprecedented global warming spike which is now showing up in
    the models as unprecedented failures -- because the models are tuned to
    only known air/ocean dynamics. Tonga is causing unknown effects."

    In 2023, we asked: "Is Tonga's Volcano Eruption Set To Warm Earth?"

    Why do leftist corporate media outlets refuse to even acknowledge the
    Tonga volcano as a possible driver in the recent tick-up in global
    warming? It's probably because it doesn't align with the narrative that human-produced carbon dioxide drives climate change.

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  • From Dhu on Gate@21:1/5 to Mittens Romney on Wed Sep 4 07:23:41 2024
    XPost: can.politics, alt.global-warming

    On Tue, 3 Sep 2024 09:05:42 -0600, Mittens Romney wrote:


    Our models no longer work, forecasters can't figure it out. This is not normal.

    Yes.

    And we are not going to "fix" it by cutting our
    throats and jumping down a hole in the ground.

    Dhu



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    C'est une esp`ece de sauvage: ne obliviscaris, vix ea nostra voco;-)
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  • From Mittens Romney@21:1/5 to Dhu on Gate on Wed Sep 4 13:42:35 2024
    XPost: alt.global-warming, or.politics, seattle.politics

    Dhu on Gate wrote:
    On Tue, 3 Sep 2024 09:05:42 -0600, Mittens Romney wrote:


    Our models no longer work, forecasters can't figure it out. This is not
    normal.

    Yes.

    And we are not going to "fix" it by cutting our
    throats and jumping down a hole in the ground.

    Dhu


    Once our 'models" begin accounting for a whopping 30% drop in the
    strength of the magnetosphere we've had, perhaps they "could" be made to
    work.

    Of curse they're going to have to be updated with the real rate of
    magnetic decline, which only recently has come into discussion.

    ESA has helpfully offered to start a new mission to monitor things.

    Huh, so what happened to the old data, decades of it?

    Yeah.

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