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  • Re: OT: Go ahead, explain how this isn't gibberish

    From citizen winston smith@21:1/5 to Alan on Fri Sep 20 16:12:26 2024
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    On 9/20/2024 3:58 PM, Alan wrote:
    For the record:

    There is no "very large faucet".

    There is currently no way that turning such a faucet could divert water
    to California.


    You must never have seen the Owens (dry) Lake or the film "Chinatown".

    Let it alone Alan, you know what happens to nosey kitty kats...

    https://youtu.be/XraW_dIy0rg


    https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1990-05-04-me-181-story.html

    County Supervisor Kenneth Hahn proposed a big solution Thursday to Los Angeles’ big water problem--digging aqueducts that would carry water to California from the Columbia River in the Pacific Northwest and the
    Snake River in Idaho.

    The waterways not only would lick the drought, Hahn said, but also would provide jobs to thousands of aerospace workers laid off because of
    defense cuts.

    “We’ve had proposals to tow icebergs, too,” commented Maury Roos, chief hydrologist for the state Department of Water Resources. “This is a
    little more serious than that.”

    https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/2015/04/10/a-water-pipeline-from-oregon-to-california/

    https://www.fresnobee.com/opinion/readers-opinion/article237605349.html

    https://www.latimes.com/opinion/story/2021-06-21/columbia-river-water-pipeline

    https://columbiainsight.org/for-drought-plagues-california-diverting-columbia-river-water-is-a-pipe-dream-for-now/

    For decades, the Pacific Northwest has responded to and fended off
    efforts to divert its water, particularly from the Columbia River, to
    the Southwest, and particularly to California or Colorado.

    These “inter-basin transfers” were proposed from Oregon, Washington,
    Alaska and British Columbia.

    For example, in 1968 as Congress debated authorization of the Colorado
    River Basin Project, House Interior and Insular Affairs Committee
    Chairman Wayne Aspinall of Colorado said the authorizing bill would only initiate a series of studies by the Department of the Interior.

    “Water is the lifeblood of this area, and unless new sources can be
    found, this thriving, prosperous, large segment of our Nation is, in my opinion, on a collision course with economic disaster,” said Aspinall.

    Northwest members of Congress noted the veiled threat of “new sources,”
    to which Aspinall responded, “representatives of the Northwest felt that their area was the target of the studies for new sources of water. This,
    of course, is understandable, since water flow records on the Columbia
    River show that more than 10 times the average annual flow of the
    Colorado River empties unused into the Pacific Ocean each year.”

    The word “unused” became something of a rallying cry for the diverters.

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  • From citizen winston smith@21:1/5 to Alan on Fri Sep 20 16:36:09 2024
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    On 9/20/2024 4:32 PM, Alan wrote:
    On 2024-09-20 15:12, citizen winston smith wrote:
    On 9/20/2024 3:58 PM, Alan wrote:
    For the record:

    There is no "very large faucet".

    There is currently no way that turning such a faucet could divert
    water to California.


    You must never have seen the Owens (dry) Lake or the film "Chinatown".

    Let it alone Alan, you know what happens to nosey kitty kats...

    https://youtu.be/XraW_dIy0rg


    https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1990-05-04-me-181-story.html

    County Supervisor Kenneth Hahn proposed a big solution Thursday to Los
    Angeles’ big water problem--digging aqueducts that would carry water
    to California from the Columbia River in the Pacific Northwest and the
    Snake River in Idaho.

    But you agree that it doesn't exist now, right?

    No, read the rest of the citations, clownshow.

    You agree

    You fuck off and die.

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to citizen winston smith on Fri Sep 20 15:32:53 2024
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    On 2024-09-20 15:12, citizen winston smith wrote:
    On 9/20/2024 3:58 PM, Alan wrote:
    For the record:

    There is no "very large faucet".

    There is currently no way that turning such a faucet could divert
    water to California.


    You must never have seen the Owens (dry) Lake or the film "Chinatown".

    Let it alone Alan, you know what happens to nosey kitty kats...

    https://youtu.be/XraW_dIy0rg


    https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1990-05-04-me-181-story.html

    County Supervisor Kenneth Hahn proposed a big solution Thursday to Los Angeles’ big water problem--digging aqueducts that would carry water to California from the Columbia River in the Pacific Northwest and the
    Snake River in Idaho.

    But you agree that it doesn't exist now, right?

    You agree there is no actual faucet--which Trump clearly stated was at
    thing that actually exists--that exists, right?

    "...and they have a essentially a very large faucet and you turn the
    faucet and it takes one day to turn it it's massive it's as big as the
    wall of that building right there behind you..."

    You accept that that is what Trump actually said, right?

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to citizen winston smith on Fri Sep 20 15:40:02 2024
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    On 2024-09-20 15:36, citizen winston smith wrote:
    On 9/20/2024 4:32 PM, Alan wrote:
    On 2024-09-20 15:12, citizen winston smith wrote:
    On 9/20/2024 3:58 PM, Alan wrote:
    For the record:

    There is no "very large faucet".

    There is currently no way that turning such a faucet could divert
    water to California.


    You must never have seen the Owens (dry) Lake or the film "Chinatown".

    Let it alone Alan, you know what happens to nosey kitty kats...

    https://youtu.be/XraW_dIy0rg


    https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1990-05-04-me-181-story.html

    County Supervisor Kenneth Hahn proposed a big solution Thursday to
    Los Angeles’ big water problem--digging aqueducts that would carry
    water to California from the Columbia River in the Pacific Northwest
    and the Snake River in Idaho.

    But you agree that it doesn't exist now, right?

    No, read the rest of the citations, clownshow.
    You're hiding.

    THERE IS NO FAUCET.

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  • From citizen winston smith@21:1/5 to Alan on Fri Sep 20 17:30:15 2024
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    On 9/20/2024 4:32 PM, Alan wrote:
    You agree there is no actual faucet

    Metaphor/semantics war.

    The sign of a LUSER!

    https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/2015/04/10/a-water-pipeline-from-oregon-to-california/

    https://www.fresnobee.com/opinion/readers-opinion/article237605349.html

    https://www.latimes.com/opinion/story/2021-06-21/columbia-river-water-pipeline

    https://columbiainsight.org/for-drought-plagues-california-diverting-columbia-river-water-is-a-pipe-dream-for-now/

    For decades, the Pacific Northwest has responded to and fended off
    efforts to divert its water, particularly from the Columbia River, to
    the Southwest, and particularly to California or Colorado.

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  • From citizen winston smith@21:1/5 to Alan on Fri Sep 20 17:29:38 2024
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    On 9/20/2024 4:40 PM, Alan wrote:
    On 2024-09-20 15:36, citizen winston smith wrote:
    On 9/20/2024 4:32 PM, Alan wrote:
    On 2024-09-20 15:12, citizen winston smith wrote:
    On 9/20/2024 3:58 PM, Alan wrote:
    For the record:

    There is no "very large faucet".

    There is currently no way that turning such a faucet could divert
    water to California.


    You must never have seen the Owens (dry) Lake or the film "Chinatown". >>>>
    Let it alone Alan, you know what happens to nosey kitty kats...

    https://youtu.be/XraW_dIy0rg


    https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1990-05-04-me-181-story.html

    County Supervisor Kenneth Hahn proposed a big solution Thursday to
    Los Angeles’ big water problem--digging aqueducts that would carry
    water to California from the Columbia River in the Pacific Northwest
    and the Snake River in Idaho.

    But you agree that it doesn't exist now, right?

    No, read the rest of the citations, clownshow.
    You're hiding.

    Nah, I'm researching and sharing:


    https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/2015/04/10/a-water-pipeline-from-oregon-to-california/

    https://www.fresnobee.com/opinion/readers-opinion/article237605349.html

    https://www.latimes.com/opinion/story/2021-06-21/columbia-river-water-pipeline

    https://columbiainsight.org/for-drought-plagues-california-diverting-columbia-river-water-is-a-pipe-dream-for-now/

    For decades, the Pacific Northwest has responded to and fended off
    efforts to divert its water, particularly from the Columbia River, to
    the Southwest, and particularly to California or Colorado.

    This has bee an ongoing pipeline to inanity for decades now.

    THERE IS NO FAUCET.

    Metaphors not your speed, troll?

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to citizen winston smith on Fri Sep 20 16:41:14 2024
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    On 2024-09-20 16:29, citizen winston smith wrote:
    On 9/20/2024 4:40 PM, Alan wrote:
    On 2024-09-20 15:36, citizen winston smith wrote:
    On 9/20/2024 4:32 PM, Alan wrote:
    On 2024-09-20 15:12, citizen winston smith wrote:
    On 9/20/2024 3:58 PM, Alan wrote:
    For the record:

    There is no "very large faucet".

    There is currently no way that turning such a faucet could divert
    water to California.


    You must never have seen the Owens (dry) Lake or the film "Chinatown". >>>>>
    Let it alone Alan, you know what happens to nosey kitty kats...

    https://youtu.be/XraW_dIy0rg


    https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1990-05-04-me-181-story.html >>>>>
    County Supervisor Kenneth Hahn proposed a big solution Thursday to
    Los Angeles’ big water problem--digging aqueducts that would carry >>>>> water to California from the Columbia River in the Pacific
    Northwest and the Snake River in Idaho.

    But you agree that it doesn't exist now, right?

    No, read the rest of the citations, clownshow.
    You're hiding.

    Nah, I'm researching and sharing:


    https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/2015/04/10/a-water-pipeline-from- oregon-to-california/

    https://www.fresnobee.com/opinion/readers-opinion/article237605349.html

    https://www.latimes.com/opinion/story/2021-06-21/columbia-river-water- pipeline

    https://columbiainsight.org/for-drought-plagues-california-diverting- columbia-river-water-is-a-pipe-dream-for-now/

    For decades, the Pacific Northwest has responded to and fended off
    efforts to divert its water, particularly from the Columbia River, to
    the Southwest, and particularly to California or Colorado.

    This has bee an ongoing pipeline to inanity for decades now.

    THERE IS NO FAUCET.

    Metaphors not your speed, troll?

    It's not a metaphor.

    He said it existed, said it took a day to turn and that it was "as big
    as the wall of that building right there behind you"

    Deal with it.

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  • From citizen winston smith@21:1/5 to Alan on Fri Sep 20 18:26:39 2024
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    On 9/20/2024 5:41 PM, Alan wrote:
    On 2024-09-20 16:30, citizen winston smith wrote:
    On 9/20/2024 4:32 PM, Alan wrote:
    You agree there is no actual faucet

    Metaphor/semantics war.

    The sign of a LUSER!

    https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/2015/04/10/a-water-pipeline-from-
    oregon-to-california/

    https://www.fresnobee.com/opinion/readers-opinion/article237605349.html

    https://www.latimes.com/opinion/story/2021-06-21/columbia-river-water-
    pipeline

    https://columbiainsight.org/for-drought-plagues-california-diverting-
    columbia-river-water-is-a-pipe-dream-for-now/

    For decades, the Pacific Northwest has responded to and fended off
    efforts to divert its water, particularly from the Columbia River, to
    the Southwest, and particularly to California or Colorado.

    This was not metaphor.

    He said it LITERALLY existed.

    Metaphor, uncited metaphor too.

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to citizen winston smith on Fri Sep 20 17:45:06 2024
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    XPost: seattle.politics, alt.politics.media

    On 2024-09-20 17:26, citizen winston smith wrote:
    On 9/20/2024 5:41 PM, Alan wrote:
    On 2024-09-20 16:29, citizen winston smith wrote:
    On 9/20/2024 4:40 PM, Alan wrote:
    On 2024-09-20 15:36, citizen winston smith wrote:
    On 9/20/2024 4:32 PM, Alan wrote:
    On 2024-09-20 15:12, citizen winston smith wrote:
    On 9/20/2024 3:58 PM, Alan wrote:
    For the record:

    There is no "very large faucet".

    There is currently no way that turning such a faucet could
    divert water to California.


    You must never have seen the Owens (dry) Lake or the film
    "Chinatown".

    Let it alone Alan, you know what happens to nosey kitty kats...

    https://youtu.be/XraW_dIy0rg


    https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1990-05-04-me-181-story.html >>>>>>>
    County Supervisor Kenneth Hahn proposed a big solution Thursday
    to Los Angeles’ big water problem--digging aqueducts that would >>>>>>> carry water to California from the Columbia River in the Pacific >>>>>>> Northwest and the Snake River in Idaho.

    But you agree that it doesn't exist now, right?

    No, read the rest of the citations, clownshow.
    You're hiding.

    Nah, I'm researching and sharing:


    https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/2015/04/10/a-water-pipeline-
    from- oregon-to-california/

    https://www.fresnobee.com/opinion/readers-opinion/article237605349.html

    https://www.latimes.com/opinion/story/2021-06-21/columbia-river-
    water- pipeline

    https://columbiainsight.org/for-drought-plagues-california-diverting-
    columbia-river-water-is-a-pipe-dream-for-now/

    For decades, the Pacific Northwest has responded to and fended off
    efforts to divert its water, particularly from the Columbia River, to
    the Southwest, and particularly to California or Colorado.

    This has bee an ongoing pipeline to inanity for decades now.

    THERE IS NO FAUCET.

    Metaphors not your speed, troll?

    It's not a metaphor.

    He said

    Metaphor.




    Nope.

    Literal.

    He said there was a faucet...

    ...he described how long it took to open it...

    ...and exactly how big it was.

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  • From De-Trois-Leaning@21:1/5 to Alan on Mon Sep 23 09:02:26 2024
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    XPost: seattle.politics, alt.politics.media

    Alan wrote:
    On 2024-09-20 17:26, citizen winston smith wrote:
    On 9/20/2024 5:41 PM, Alan wrote:
    On 2024-09-20 16:30, citizen winston smith wrote:
    On 9/20/2024 4:32 PM, Alan wrote:
    You agree there is no actual faucet

    Metaphor/semantics war.

    The sign of a LUSER!

    https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/2015/04/10/a-water-pipeline-
    from- oregon-to-california/

    https://www.fresnobee.com/opinion/readers-opinion/article237605349.html >>>>
    https://www.latimes.com/opinion/story/2021-06-21/columbia-river-
    water- pipeline

    https://columbiainsight.org/for-drought-plagues-california-diverting- columbia-river-water-is-a-pipe-dream-for-now/


    For decades, the Pacific Northwest has responded to and fended off
    efforts to divert its water, particularly from the Columbia River,
    to the Southwest, and particularly to California or Colorado.

    This was not metaphor.

    He said it LITERALLY existed.

    Metaphor, uncited metaphor too.


    <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSUxeiXG1tk>

    Start at 59:54 into the speech

    Great speech, thx for the link!

    I missed it on RSBN.

    https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/dec/22/delta-smelt-fish-trump-california-aoe

    "Last fall, Trump signed a memorandum directing federal agencies to
    review and roll back environmental standards slowing down the flow of
    water to farms in the Central Valley. In February this year, the
    president nominated David Bernhardt to serve as his interior secretary.

    ...turning down the pumps isn’t quite as easy as shutting off a faucet.
    The multi-story state and federal pumping plants operate in tandem and
    are powerful enough to make rivers flow backward.

    If the delta smelt go, California may be able to pump some more."

    https://envirobites.org/2019/06/24/farmers-vs-fish-the-story-of-delta-smelt/

    "To move water around, over 1,400 dams and miles of aqueducts have been constructed. A tidal wetland-turned-agricultural land, the Sacramento –
    San Joaquin Delta is the center of California’s water distribution
    system. About half of California’s developed water moves through the
    delta via two pumping plants: Central Valley Project (CVP) and the State
    Water Project."

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_Valley_Project

    "The Central Valley Project (CVP) is a federal power and water
    management project in the U.S. state of California under the supervision
    of the United States Bureau of Reclamation (USBR). It was devised in
    1933 in order to provide irrigation and municipal water to much of
    California's Central Valley—by regulating and storing water in
    reservoirs in the northern half of the state (once considered water-rich
    but suffering water-scarce conditions more than half the year in most
    years), and transporting it to the water-poor San Joaquin Valley and its surroundings by means of a series of canals, aqueducts and pump plants,
    some shared with the California State Water Project (SWP). Many CVP
    water users are represented by the Central Valley Project Water Association.


    Two large reservoirs, Shasta Lake and Trinity Lake, are formed by a pair
    of dams in the mountains north of the Sacramento Valley. Water from
    Shasta Lake flows into the Sacramento River which flows to the
    Sacramento-San Joaquin Delta and water from Trinity Lake flows into the
    Trinity River which leads to the Pacific Ocean. Both lakes release water
    at controlled rates. There, before it can flow on to San Francisco Bay
    and the Pacific Ocean, some of the water is intercepted by a diversion
    channel and transported to the Delta-Mendota Canal, which conveys water southwards through the San Joaquin Valley, supplying water to San Luis Reservoir (a SWP-shared facility) and the San Joaquin River at Mendota
    Pool in the process, eventually reaching canals that irrigates farms in
    the valley. Friant Dam crosses the San Joaquin River upstream of Mendota
    Pool, diverting its water southwards into canals that travel into the
    Tulare Lake area of the San Joaquin Valley, as far south as the Kern
    River. Finally, New Melones Lake, a separate facility, stores water flow
    of a San Joaquin River tributary for use during dry periods. Other
    smaller, independent facilities exist to provide water to local
    irrigation districts"

    https://water.ca.gov/programs/state-water-project

    https://water.ca.gov/Programs/State-Water-Project/Operations-and-Maintenance


    Big old shutoff valve = check!

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  • From De-Trois-Leaning@21:1/5 to Alan on Mon Sep 23 07:58:28 2024
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    Alan wrote:
    On 2024-09-20 17:26, citizen winston smith wrote:
    On 9/20/2024 5:41 PM, Alan wrote:
    On 2024-09-20 16:29, citizen winston smith wrote:
    On 9/20/2024 4:40 PM, Alan wrote:
    On 2024-09-20 15:36, citizen winston smith wrote:
    On 9/20/2024 4:32 PM, Alan wrote:
    On 2024-09-20 15:12, citizen winston smith wrote:
    On 9/20/2024 3:58 PM, Alan wrote:
    For the record:

    There is no "very large faucet".

    There is currently no way that turning such a faucet could
    divert water to California.


    You must never have seen the Owens (dry) Lake or the film
    "Chinatown".

    Let it alone Alan, you know what happens to nosey kitty kats... >>>>>>>>
    https://youtu.be/XraW_dIy0rg


    https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1990-05-04-me-181-story.html >>>>>>>>

    County Supervisor Kenneth Hahn proposed a big solution Thursday >>>>>>>> to Los Angeles’ big water problem--digging aqueducts that would >>>>>>>> carry water to California from the Columbia River in the Pacific >>>>>>>> Northwest and the Snake River in Idaho.

    But you agree that it doesn't exist now, right?

    No, read the rest of the citations, clownshow.
    You're hiding.

    Nah, I'm researching and sharing:


    https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/2015/04/10/a-water-pipeline-
    from- oregon-to-california/

    https://www.fresnobee.com/opinion/readers-opinion/article237605349.html >>>>
    https://www.latimes.com/opinion/story/2021-06-21/columbia-river-
    water- pipeline

    https://columbiainsight.org/for-drought-plagues-california-diverting- columbia-river-water-is-a-pipe-dream-for-now/


    For decades, the Pacific Northwest has responded to and fended off
    efforts to divert its water, particularly from the Columbia River,
    to the Southwest, and particularly to California or Colorado.

    This has bee an ongoing pipeline to inanity for decades now.

    THERE IS NO FAUCET.

    Metaphors not your speed, troll?

    It's not a metaphor.

    He said

    Metaphor.




    Nope.

    Literal.

    He said there was a faucet...

    And damned if there isn't!


    ...he described how long it took to open it...

    A day.

    ...and exactly how big it was.

    Yuge!

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  • From De-Trois-Leaning@21:1/5 to De-Trois-Leaning on Mon Sep 23 09:31:03 2024
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    De-Trois-Leaning wrote:


    Big old shutoff valve = check!

    https://us-browse.startpage.com/av/anon-image?piurl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.sgpwa.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2015%2F09%2FCVPS-Install-of-Pump3-845x321.jpg&sp=1727105333T96a70e844e56c5437d157a1fd0d1a5722b0516fc9072a717c15f4106d01a2c9a

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