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    From Ross Clark@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jan 3 08:43:17 2024
    January 3 is thus Tolkien Day, according to the Tolkien Society.

    He was a genuine scholar of Old English, which he professed in Oxford. "Glossopoeia" (his term for making up languages) was apparently a
    life-long hobby, not just a by-product of writing his very popular books.

    I have read very little Tolkien, and only watched the movies when they
    came on TV. I found the endless battle scenes impressive but boring.

    Anyway, here's a specimen that Crystal gives, said to be in some variety
    of Elvish:

    Ai! laurië lantar lassi súrinen
    (Ah! like gold fall the leaves in the wind)

    Yéni únótimë ve rámar aldaron!
    (long years numberless as the wings of trees!)

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  • From Antonio Marques@21:1/5 to Ross Clark on Thu Jan 4 19:49:17 2024
    Ross Clark <benlizro@ihug.co.nz> wrote:
    January 3 is thus Tolkien Day, according to the Tolkien Society.

    He was a genuine scholar of Old English, which he professed in Oxford. "Glossopoeia" (his term for making up languages) was apparently a
    life-long hobby, not just a by-product of writing his very popular books.

    Reading the 12 volumes of ‘The History of Middle Earth’, one can see how he spent significantly more time and ink and concern exploring the
    plausibility of a given suffix than the origin and basic biology of entire races.


    I have read very little Tolkien, and only watched the movies when they
    came on TV. I found the endless battle scenes impressive but boring.

    Anyway, here's a specimen that Crystal gives, said to be in some variety
    of Elvish:

    Ai! laurië lantar lassi súrinen
    (Ah! like gold fall the leaves in the wind)

    Yéni únótimë ve rámar aldaron!
    (long years numberless as the wings of trees!)

    The ë and acutes and to an extent the voiceless intervocalic stop identify
    it as a (variety of) Quenya, the one that resembles finnish. Sharper
    readers may know which. I think Vanyarin had th for ss, so it would be Noldorin, but maybe it’s the other way around.

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  • From HenHanna@21:1/5 to Antonio Marques on Wed Jul 10 23:58:23 2024
    XPost: alt.usage.english

    On 1/4/2024 11:49 AM, Antonio Marques wrote:
    Ross Clark <benlizro@ihug.co.nz> wrote:
    January 3 is thus Tolkien Day, according to the Tolkien Society.

    He was a genuine scholar of Old English, which he professed in Oxford.
    "Glossopoeia" (his term for making up languages) was apparently a
    life-long hobby, not just a by-product of writing his very popular books.

    Reading the 12 volumes of ‘The History of Middle Earth’, one can see how he
    spent significantly more time and ink and concern exploring the
    plausibility of a given suffix than the origin and basic biology of entire races.


    I have read very little Tolkien, and only watched the movies when they
    came on TV. I found the endless battle scenes impressive but boring.

    Anyway, here's a specimen that Crystal gives, said to be in some variety
    of Elvish:

    Ai! laurië lantar lassi súrinen
    (Ah! like gold fall the leaves in the wind)

    Yéni únótimë ve rámar aldaron!
    (long years numberless as the wings of trees!)

    The ë and acutes and to an extent the voiceless intervocalic stop identify it as a (variety of) Quenya, the one that resembles finnish. Sharper
    readers may know which. I think Vanyarin had th for ss, so it would be Noldorin, but maybe it’s the other way around.





    the Elvish languages (Quenya and Sindarin) and the Khuzdul language of
    the Dwarves.


    the 1st movie was good...

    i thought the lead actor (V. Mortensen) was weak.


    but he was great in [A History of Violence]




    >>> Viggo Peter Mortensen Jr. is an American actor,
    musician, and filmmaker. He is the recipient of various accolades,
    including nominations for three Academy Awards for Best Actor, three
    BAFTA Awards, four Golden Globe Awards, and an Independent Spirit Award.


    ----------- i thought he was from N.Z.

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