i'd think that... a big reason why T.S. Eliot or Orwell (?) or Nabokov liked Sherlock Holmes was...
how the text seemed peppered with
allusions to classical texts....
What's a good example of this? [...]
Le 16/06/2024 à 00:23, HenHanna a écrit :
i'd think that... a big reason why T.S. Eliot or Orwell (?) or
Nabokov liked Sherlock Holmes was...
how the text seemed peppered with
allusions to classical texts....
What's the source for that? It seems an unusual reason for liking the
Holmes stories - a bit like liking them for Mrs Hudson's cooking.
What's a good example of this? [...]
On 6/15/2024 10:46 PM, Hibou wrote:
Le 16/06/2024 à 00:23, HenHanna a écrit :
i'd think that... a big reason why T.S. Eliot or Orwell (?) or
Nabokov liked Sherlock Holmes was...
how the text seemed peppered with
allusions to classical texts....
What's the source for that? It seems an unusual reason for liking the
Holmes stories - a bit like liking them for Mrs Hudson's cooking.
What's a good example of this? [...]
1. SH stories are full of them.
2. T.S.Eliot used [grimpen] (lowercase) in his famous poem
3. Joyce ..........
______________________
'There, but for the grace of God, goes Sherlock Holmes.'"
You may remember the old
Persian saying, 'There is danger for him who taketh the tiger cub,
and danger also for whoso snatches a delusion from a woman.'
There is as much sense in Hafiz as in Horace, and as much knowledge of
the world."
Professor Moriarty, Sherlock Holmes' nemesis, might be named after a character from Molière's play "Le Misanthrope" ???
Jabez Wilson: The name "Jabez" comes from the Old Testament (1
Chronicles 4:35).
Le 16/06/2024 à 09:29, HenHanna a écrit :
On 6/15/2024 10:46 PM, Hibou wrote:
Le 16/06/2024 à 00:23, HenHanna a écrit :
i'd think that... a big reason why T.S. Eliot or Orwell (?) or
Nabokov liked Sherlock Holmes was...
how the text seemed peppered with
allusions to classical texts....
What's the source for that? It seems an unusual reason for liking the
Holmes stories - a bit like liking them for Mrs Hudson's cooking.
What's a good example of this? [...]
1. SH stories are full of them.
2. T.S.Eliot used [grimpen] (lowercase) in his famous poem
3. Joyce ..........
______________________
'There, but for the grace of God, goes Sherlock Holmes.'"
You may remember the old
Persian saying, 'There is danger for him who taketh the tiger cub,
and danger also for whoso snatches a delusion from a woman.'
There is as much sense in Hafiz as in Horace, and as much knowledge of
the world."
Professor Moriarty, Sherlock Holmes' nemesis, might be named after a
character from Molière's play "Le Misanthrope" ???
Jabez Wilson: The name "Jabez" comes from the Old Testament (1
Chronicles 4:35).
Well, all right, and I acknowledge that there is pleasure in recognising allusions - but is there an unusual number of them in SH? In more
Christian days, it was common for people to be given Biblical Christian
names (my own first name features in the New Testament), and Biblical
and other phrases would routinely crop up in educated people's dialogue (There but for the grace of God etc.).
how the text seemed peppered with
allusions to classical texts....
What's the source for that?
On 6/15/2024 10:46 PM, Hibou wrote:
Le 16/06/2024 à 00:23, HenHanna a écrit :
how the text seemed peppered with
allusions to classical texts....
What's the source for that?
the sections on Homer, Frankenstein, Socrates... are esp. good.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_Rosenberg_(writer)
[Naked is the Best Disguise]
Published in 1974, this book relates the Sherlock Holmes stories in surprising ways to Nietzsche, Oscar Wilde, Dionysus, Christ, Catullus,
John Bunyan, Robert Browning, Boccaccio, Napoleon, Racine, Frankenstein, Flaubert, George Sand, Socrates, Poe, General Charles George Gordon, Melville, Joyce's Ulysses, T. S. Eliot, and many others.
Rosenberg claimed that Doyle left open clues to his most hidden
thoughts. Rosenberg also describes his discovery of the Doyle Syndrome.
This repetitive narrative sequence reveals to him some deep
characteristics of the author Sir Arthur Conan Doyle. ........................
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