Is there a technical term for this way that words mutate in meaning?
Is there a technical term for this way that words mutate in meaning?
Do people know other examples?
Ed
Belladonna
It acquired its alter name in the middle ages, when women used it
because of how it dilates the pupils, making them more sexy.
Beautiful Lady.
Pagan.
In Latin "paganus" meant "villager" or "peasant". That's what Cicero
would have understood. But early Christians used it as a depreciatory
term for those who stuck to polytheistic or pre-Christian beliefs; the
gods of Old Rome.
Is there a technical term for this way that words mutate in meaning?
Do people know other examples?
Ed Cryer wrote:
Is there a technical term for this way that words mutate in meaning?
Do people know other examples? Ed
You can take all the words for psychological problems or lack of
intelligence (with a vague definition).
In Danish the expression "pendulum words" are used about words who get
the opposite meaning. I don't know English examples, but a Danish
expression is "godt 100" - literally "good 100" - which means a little
more than 100. Within the last 20 years it became clear that some Danes thought that it meant a little less than 100. So today one has to be
careful when using that expression.
Belladonna
It acquired its alter name in the middle ages, when women used it
because of how it dilates the pupils, making them more sexy.
Beautiful Lady.
Pagan.
In Latin "paganus" meant "villager" or "peasant". That's what Cicero
would have understood. But early Christians used it as a depreciatory
term for those who stuck to polytheistic or pre-Christian beliefs; the
gods of Old Rome.
What's the difference between "pagan" and "heathen"?
On Sat, 5 Oct 2024 21:57:29 +0000, bertietaylor@myyahoo.com
(bertietaylor) wrote:
What's the difference between "pagan" and "heathen"?
That depends on who's using the words, and for what. Context makes a
big difference.
On Sat, 5 Oct 2024 18:40:08 +0100, Ed Cryer <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk>
wrote:
Belladonna
It acquired its alter name in the middle ages, when women used it
because of how it dilates the pupils, making them more sexy.
Beautiful Lady.
Pagan.
In Latin "paganus" meant "villager" or "peasant". That's what Cicero
would have understood. But early Christians used it as a depreciatory
term for those who stuck to polytheistic or pre-Christian beliefs; the
gods of Old Rome.
Pagan - origin of the term.
Source: Fox, "Christian & Pagans" 1987:30.
"In antiquity, pagans already owed a debt to Christians.
Christians first gave them their name, pagani... In everyday
use, it meant either a civilian or a rustic. Since the
sixteenth century the origin of the early Christians' usage
has been disputed, but of the two meanings, the former is the
likelier. Pagani were civilians who had not enlisted through
baptism as soldiers of Christ against the powers of Satan. By
its word for non-believers, Christian slang bore witness to
the heavenly battle which coloured Christians' view of life."
Ed Cryer wrote:
Is there a technical term for this way that words mutate in meaning?
Do people know other examples?
Ed
You can take all the words for psychological problems or lack of
intelligence (with a vague definition).
In Danish the expression "pendulum words" are used about words who get
the opposite meaning. I don't know English examples, but a Danish
expression is "godt 100" - literally "good 100" - which means a little
more than 100.
Within the last 20 years it became clear that some Danes
thought that it meant a little less than 100. So today one has to be
careful when using that expression.
Belladonna
It acquired its alter name in the middle ages, when women used it
because of how it dilates the pupils, making them more sexy.
Beautiful Lady.
Pagan.
In Latin "paganus" meant "villager" or "peasant". That's what Cicero
would have understood. But early Christians used it as a depreciatory
term for those who stuck to polytheistic or pre-Christian beliefs; the
gods of Old Rome.
Is there a technical term for this way that words mutate in meaning?
Do people know other examples?
Krap 10 (Dutch), knapp 10 (German).
On Sun, 6 Oct 2024 5:59:22 +0000, Steve Hayes wrote:
On Sat, 5 Oct 2024 21:57:29 +0000, bertietaylor@myyahoo.com
(bertietaylor) wrote:
What's the difference between "pagan" and "heathen"?
That depends on who's using the words, and for what. Context makes a
big difference.
Is Arindam (the greatest genius of all time and sole god among lotsa
devils) a pagan or heathen or both as per his hostiles?
Ruud Harmsen wrote:
Krap 10 (Dutch), knapp 10 (German).
Knap 10 (Danish).
Belladonna
It acquired its alter name in the middle ages, when women used it
because of how it dilates the pupils, making them more sexy.
Beautiful Lady.
Pagan.
In Latin "paganus" meant "villager" or "peasant". That's what
Cicero would have understood. But early Christians used it as a
depreciatory term for those who stuck to polytheistic or
pre-Christian beliefs; the gods of Old Rome.
Is there a technical term for this way that words mutate in
meaning? Do people know other examples?
On Sun, 6 Oct 2024 06:12:31 +0000, bertietaylor@myyahoo.com
(bertietaylor) wrote:
On Sun, 6 Oct 2024 5:59:22 +0000, Steve Hayes wrote:
On Sat, 5 Oct 2024 21:57:29 +0000, bertietaylor@myyahoo.com
(bertietaylor) wrote:
What's the difference between "pagan" and "heathen"?
That depends on who's using the words, and for what. Context makes a
big difference.
Is Arindam (the greatest genius of all time and sole god among lotsa >devils) a pagan or heathen or both as per his hostiles?
Impossible to answer without a potted biography. He could be a Pathan
for all I know.
[pet peeve time]
Most books of this sort -- which I suspect AUE readers often find under
the Christmas tree from well-meaning family and friends -- are aimed at
the easily bored, and seldom cite sources for their statements of fact,
often skating over most of the nuance or context of a word's evolution.
Take, for example, the statement that "Buxom used to mean obedient".
It can't be faulted on accuracy, but it's only part of the story, as
the word's meaning obviously didn't just jump from "obedient" to "full- >bosomed".
It took centuries to evolve from the "obedient, pliant" meaning (which >applied equally to men and women) to the current gender-specific sense
of "full-bosomed", by way of "submissive, humble, meek", to "gracious, >courteous, affable", on to "blithe, jolly", and then to "bright,
lively" and "full of health", vigorous", eventually reaching "plump and >comely" in the late C19, and finally becoming "full-bosomed" in the
second half of the C20.
Sat, 5 Oct 2024 18:40:08 +0100: Ed Cryer <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk>
scribeva:
BelladonnaA shift in meaning.
It acquired its alter name in the middle ages, when women used it
because of how it dilates the pupils, making them more sexy.
Beautiful Lady.
Pagan.
In Latin "paganus" meant "villager" or "peasant". That's what Cicero
would have understood. But early Christians used it as a depreciatory
term for those who stuck to polytheistic or pre-Christian beliefs; the
gods of Old Rome.
Is there a technical term for this way that words mutate in meaning?
Do people know other examples?There are myriads. It happens all the time. Consult any etymology in Wiktionary, for example.
On Sun, 6 Oct 2024 06:12:31 +0000, bertietaylor@myyahoo.com
(bertietaylor) wrote:
On Sun, 6 Oct 2024 5:59:22 +0000, Steve Hayes wrote:
On Sat, 5 Oct 2024 21:57:29 +0000, bertietaylor@myyahoo.com
(bertietaylor) wrote:
What's the difference between "pagan" and "heathen"?
That depends on who's using the words, and for what. Context makes a
big difference.
Is Arindam (the greatest genius of all time and sole god among lotsa >>devils) a pagan or heathen or both as per his hostiles?
Impossible to answer without a potted biography. He could be a Pathan
for all I know.
On Sun, 6 Oct 2024 13:23:29 +0000, Steve Hayes wrote:
On Sun, 6 Oct 2024 06:12:31 +0000, bertietaylor@myyahoo.com
(bertietaylor) wrote:
On Sun, 6 Oct 2024 5:59:22 +0000, Steve Hayes wrote:
On Sat, 5 Oct 2024 21:57:29 +0000, bertietaylor@myyahoo.com
(bertietaylor) wrote:
What's the difference between "pagan" and "heathen"?
That depends on who's using the words, and for what. Context makes a
big difference.
Is Arindam (the greatest genius of all time and sole god among lotsa >>>devils) a pagan or heathen or both as per his hostiles?
Impossible to answer without a potted biography. He could be a Pathan
for all I know.
Are Pathans pagan or heathen?
Arindam is a satya-yuga person. That is, he resides in the 100% good
state unlike the present general state k'li yuga which generally is less
than 25% good.
When someone has no use for evil and sin is that person a pagan or a
heathen?
Can the great theological minds of the Occident provide an answer?
On Sun, 6 Oct 2024 21:08:23 +0000, bertietaylor@myyahoo.com
(bertietaylor) wrote:
On Sun, 6 Oct 2024 13:23:29 +0000, Steve Hayes wrote:
On Sun, 6 Oct 2024 06:12:31 +0000, bertietaylor@myyahoo.com
(bertietaylor) wrote:
On Sun, 6 Oct 2024 5:59:22 +0000, Steve Hayes wrote:
On Sat, 5 Oct 2024 21:57:29 +0000, bertietaylor@myyahoo.com
(bertietaylor) wrote:
What's the difference between "pagan" and "heathen"?
That depends on who's using the words, and for what. Context makes a >>>>> big difference.
Is Arindam (the greatest genius of all time and sole god among lotsa >>>>devils) a pagan or heathen or both as per his hostiles?
Impossible to answer without a potted biography. He could be a Pathan
for all I know.
Are Pathans pagan or heathen?
Who's using the word?
Arindam is a satya-yuga person. That is, he resides in the 100% good
state unlike the present general state k'li yuga which generally is less >>than 25% good.
Date & place of birth, place of upbringing, education, current
religion?
When someone has no use for evil and sin is that person a pagan or a >>heathen?
Can the great theological minds of the Occident provide an answer?
Again, it depends on who's using the word. Some of the great
theological minds of the Occident deprecate the use of either word.
And across languages, ex.:
E NL D
slim slim schlimm
weird worden werden
eerie erg arg
worry wurgen würgen
clean klein klein
small smal schmal
ask eisen heischen
eventually eventueel eventuell
leap lopen laufen
spring springen springen
die doden töten
draw dragen tragen
etc enz usw
bertietaylor wrote:
What's the difference between "pagan" and "heathen"?
I've always thought Shakespeare gave a good, running description for >"heathen".
FIRST WITCH
When shall we three meet again?
In thunder, lightning, or in rain?
SECOND WITCH
When the hurly-burly’s done,
When the battle’s lost and won.
THIRD WITCH
That will be ere the set of sun.
FIRST WITCH
Where the place?
SECOND WITCH
Upon the heath. *****************
THIRD WITCH
There to meet with Macbeth.
What's the difference between "pagan" and "heathen"?
And across languages, ex.:
E NL D
weird worden werden
ask eisen heischen
leap lopen laufen
spring springen springen
die doden töten
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