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    From HenHanna@21:1/5 to All on Mon Oct 28 00:56:53 2024
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    better ways to phrase these?

    1) This animal's behavior is interesting to study.
    2) This animal's behavior is interesting for us to study.
    3) This animal's behavior is compelling to study.
    4) This animal's behavior is compelling for us to study.

    __________________________

    You're right! The phrase "This animal's behavior is compelling to study"
    can indeed sound awkward or overly formal.

    While it's grammatically correct, it might not feel as natural in casual conversation or writing.

    Alternative Suggestions: To improve clarity and flow, you might
    consider:

    "Studying this animal's behavior is compelling."
    "This animal's behavior makes for a compelling study."
    "The study of this animal's behavior is fascinating."

    __________________________

    Here are some alternative phrasings for each sentence:

    This animal's behavior offers fascinating insights for study.

    This animal's behavior presents an intriguing opportunity for our
    research.

    This animal's behavior is captivating for research purposes.

    This animal's behavior provides a compelling subject for our
    investigation.

    Feel free to mix and match elements from these suggestions to best suit
    your context!


    _________________________All of 1-4 seem typical Navi-ese.


    [XXX is interesting to study.] seems artificial, like
    the famous sentence [La plume de ma tante...]


    You're correct in noting that "XXX is interesting to study" can sound
    somewhat artificial or overly formal, reminiscent of the famous example
    "La plume de ma tante est sur la table."

    Reasons for the Artificiality:

    Passive Construction: The structure can feel indirect or detached,
    lacking engagement with the subject.

    Overused Phrase: It's a common construction that may come off as clichéd
    or uninspired.

    Alternative Phrasings: To make it more engaging, consider these
    options:



    "Studying XXX reveals fascinating insights."

    "There’s much to learn from studying XXX."

    "XXX offers an intriguing perspective for exploration."

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  • From Hibou@21:1/5 to All on Mon Oct 28 08:23:44 2024
    XPost: alt.usage.english, alt.english.usage

    Le 28/10/2024 à 00:56, HenHanna a écrit :
    better ways to phrase these?

    1) This animal's behavior is interesting to study.
    2) This animal's behavior is interesting for us to study.
    3) This animal's behavior is compelling to study.
    4) This animal's behavior is compelling for us to study. __________________________

    You're right! The phrase "This animal's behavior is compelling to study"
    can indeed sound awkward or overly formal. [...]

    Seeing this, I am reminded of how much I respect Bertel, Jan, Silvano,
    and the other non-native English speakers who step boldly into this
    forum, posting their own words, not hiding behind the unattributed
    output of some AI or other.

    Bravo!

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  • From Kerr-Mudd, John@21:1/5 to vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.inva on Fri Nov 1 12:33:10 2024
    XPost: alt.usage.english, alt.english.usage

    On Mon, 28 Oct 2024 08:23:44 -0000, Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> wrote:

    Le 28/10/2024 à 00:56, HenHanna a écrit :
    better ways to phrase these?
    1) This animal's behavior is interesting to study.
    2) This animal's behavior is interesting for us to study.
    3) This animal's behavior is compelling to study.
    4) This animal's behavior is compelling for us to study.
    __________________________
    You're right! The phrase "This animal's behavior is compelling to
    study"
    can indeed sound awkward or overly formal. [...]

    Seeing this, I am reminded of how much I respect Bertel, Jan, Silvano,
    and the other non-native English speakers who step boldly into this
    forum, posting their own words, not hiding behind the unattributed
    output of some AI or other.

    Bravo!


    ISTM AI is only being used by some people on Usenet who know narthing to pretend that they do; falling badly flat as the AI waffle is painfully
    obvious - and all this uses large amounts of electric in massive server
    farms. Please don't!
    --
    Bah, and indeed, Humbug

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  • From Christian Weisgerber@21:1/5 to John on Fri Nov 8 19:26:48 2024
    XPost: alt.usage.english, alt.english.usage

    On 2024-11-01, Kerr-Mudd, John <admin@127.0.0.1> wrote:

    ISTM AI is only being used by some people on Usenet who know narthing to pretend that they do; falling badly flat as the AI waffle is painfully obvious

    I'm aware of two posters who regularly use AI services:
    * HenHanna, who uses AI chatbots as knowledge engines, which they
    manifestly aren't.
    * Stefan Ram, who uses AI as a writing tool to rewrite his articles
    into "colloquial" English, resulting in bizarrely inappropriate
    language.

    --
    Christian "naddy" Weisgerber naddy@mips.inka.de

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  • From HenHanna@21:1/5 to Hibou on Fri Nov 8 20:36:21 2024
    XPost: alt.usage.english, alt.language.latin

    On Mon, 28 Oct 2024 8:23:44 +0000, Hibou wrote:

    Le 28/10/2024 à 00:56, HenHanna a écrit :
    better ways to phrase these?

    1) This animal's behavior is interesting to study.
    2) This animal's behavior is interesting for us to study.
    3) This animal's behavior is compelling to study.
    4) This animal's behavior is compelling for us to study.
    __________________________

    You're right! The phrase "This animal's behavior is compelling to study"
    can indeed sound awkward or overly formal. [...]




    Seeing this, I am reminded of how much I respect Bertel, Jan, Silvano,
    and the other non-native English speakers who step boldly into this
    forum, posting their own words, not hiding behind the unattributed
    output of some AI or other.

    Bravo!


    It makes sense that [non-native English speakers]
    wuld be more interested in responding to these questions.


    Wasn't it a Dutch guy who wrote that famous poem
    about English spelling?


    For us... it's like answering questions in math
    like how to multiply 2 negative numbvers
    or explaining why 0.999999999.... and 1 are the same, etc.



    in your comment... [I am reminded of] can be better put

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  • From Silvano@21:1/5 to All on Sat Nov 9 01:02:36 2024
    XPost: alt.usage.english, alt.english.usage

    Christian Weisgerber hat am 08.11.2024 um 20:26 geschrieben:
    On 2024-11-01, Kerr-Mudd, John <admin@127.0.0.1> wrote:

    ISTM AI is only being used by some people on Usenet who know narthing to
    pretend that they do; falling badly flat as the AI waffle is painfully
    obvious

    I'm aware of two posters who regularly use AI services:
    * HenHanna, who uses AI chatbots as knowledge engines, which they
    manifestly aren't.
    * Stefan Ram, who uses AI as a writing tool to rewrite his articles
    into "colloquial" English, resulting in bizarrely inappropriate
    language.

    One of the reasons why many, perhaps even most readers here plonk them.

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