• Charles Carpenter Fries born (29/11/1887)

    From Ross Clark@21:1/5 to All on Fri Nov 29 22:12:46 2024
    Another linguist. Professor at the University of Michigan 1920-1958. He
    died in 1967, when I was just beginning linguistics. I heard of him, as
    a structuralist of an earlier generation (a contemporary of Bloomfield),
    but he didn't arouse much interest. His importance was greater in
    applied linguistics, as a founder of the Oral-Aural method of teaching
    foreign languages. (Through hearing this term I came to realize that for
    some people "oral" and "aural" are not homophones.)

    But he also wrote _The Structure of English_ (1952). Crystal quotes from
    his opening chapter:

    "With the recent development of mechanical devices for the easy
    recording of the speech of persons in all types of situations there
    seems to be little excuse for the use of linguistic material not taken
    from actual communicative practice when one attempts to deal with a
    living language. Even though the investigator is himself a native
    speaker of the language and a sophisticated and trained observer he
    cannot depend completely on himself as an informant and use
    introspection as his sole source of material."

    He goes on to envision what we would now call linguistic corpora.
    Little did he know that Noam Chomsky would spend years flatly denying
    what he said, and making self-as-informant the normal method for his
    followers.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Carpenter_Fries

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  • From Aidan Kehoe@21:1/5 to All on Fri Nov 29 11:04:57 2024
    Ar an naoú lá is fiche de mí na Samhain, scríobh Ross Clark:

    [...] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Carpenter_Fries

    A sensible man who did good work, from the looks of things. Thanks for posting this.

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