• Elizabeth Bates died (13/12/2003)

    From Ross Clark@21:1/5 to All on Fri Dec 13 21:51:12 2024
    Only 56. Pancreatic cancer.
    An important theorist of children's acquisition of language, and thus of language-mind-brain problems generally.
    I'm pretty sure I heard her speak once (on the subject of the purported "language gene"), but can't quite place the event.
    Links lead to the "East Pole-West Pole Divide" in cognitive psychology
    and cognitive neuroscience, which perhaps lasted as long as it takes to
    say it.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_Pole-West_Pole_divide https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elizabeth_Bates

    Crystal mentions in particular the idea of "proto-words", not in the
    historical sense, but vocalizations that come between babbling
    (sound-practice) and the first real words, which seem to have a stable
    form and, perhaps, meaning, except that nobody knows what it is. I
    recall spending an evening in the company of a young fellow in his
    second year of life, who seemed to speak whole sentences in this way.
    His parents could not tell me what he meant, but I put the tape recorder
    on anyway. "Just wait until he learns to talk," I thought, "then we can
    play the tape and ask him 'What did you mean by this, or that?'"
    It didn't happen.

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