It shows up on my master list as a national holiday only in Russia,
Belarus and Ukraine. (Russia has a Mondayized-Saturday "IWD Holiday" on
the 10th, which is also the day IWD is celebrated in Ukraine.)

Curious.

But this makes it all clear:

"Spurred by the universal female suffrage movement, International
Women's Day originated from labor movements in Europe and North America
during the early 20th century, with the modern holiday, March 8, being
declared by Vladimir Lenin."

(Gasp!)

"The earliest version reported was a "Woman's Day" organized by the
Socialist Party of America in New York City on February 28, 1909. This
inspired German delegates at the 1910 International Socialist Women's Conference in Copenhagen to propose "a special Women's Day" be organized annually, albeit with no set date; the following year saw the first demonstrations and commemorations of International Women's Day across
Europe. Vladimir Lenin declared March 8 as International Women's Day in
1922 to honour the women's role in 1917 Russian Revolution; it was
subsequently celebrated on that date by the socialist movement and
communist countries."

"International Women's Day remained predominantly a communist holiday
until circa 1967 when it was taken up by second-wave
feminists....International Women's Day had been largely forgotten in the
United States by the late 1960s, before an activist called Laura X
organized a march in Berkeley, California, on International Women's Day
in 1969....The holiday became a mainstream global holiday following its promotion by the United Nations in 1977."

Holy crap! How come Trump hasn't banned it yet?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Women%27s_Day

/Ob sci.lang: The Wikipedia article features a dynamic poster for IWD
in Germany, 1914. "This poster was banned in the German Empire."
One line on the poster reads: "Heraus mit dem Frauenwahlrecht."
I find it hard not to translate that as "Out with women's right to
vote"; but in English that would give the opposite of what I'm sure was
the intended meaning. So it's really something like "Come out and show
your support for....". Am I right?

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On 2025-03-08, Ross Clark <benlizro@ihug.co.nz> wrote:

It shows up on my master list as a national holiday only in Russia,
Belarus and Ukraine.

In Germany, it's a regional holiday in... *checks schulferien.org*...
Berlin and Mecklenburg-Vorpommern.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Women%27s_Day

/Ob sci.lang: The Wikipedia article features a dynamic poster for IWD
in Germany, 1914. "This poster was banned in the German Empire."
One line on the poster reads: "Heraus mit dem Frauenwahlrecht."
I find it hard not to translate that as "Out with women's right to
vote"; but in English that would give the opposite of what I'm sure was
the intended meaning. So it's really something like "Come out and show
your support for....". Am I right?

That would be my guess as well. It's an odd phrasing from today's
perspective.

--
Christian "naddy" Weisgerber naddy@mips.inka.de

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On 8/03/2025 10:27 p.m., Christian Weisgerber wrote:

On 2025-03-08, Ross Clark <benlizro@ihug.co.nz> wrote:

It shows up on my master list as a national holiday only in Russia,
Belarus and Ukraine.

In Germany, it's a regional holiday in... *checks schulferien.org*...
Berlin and Mecklenburg-Vorpommern.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Women%27s_Day

/Ob sci.lang: The Wikipedia article features a dynamic poster for IWD
in Germany, 1914. "This poster was banned in the German Empire."
One line on the poster reads: "Heraus mit dem Frauenwahlrecht."
I find it hard not to translate that as "Out with women's right to
vote"; but in English that would give the opposite of what I'm sure was
the intended meaning. So it's really something like "Come out and show
your support for....". Am I right?

That would be my guess as well. It's an odd phrasing from today's perspective.

Thanks. This has brought to my mind an old expression, "'Raus mit uns!",
that I heard from someone long ago, before I actually knew any German.
My vague recollection is that it was something you could shout to get
people out of their beds in the morning. Is it a conventional expression?

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On 2025-03-09, Ross Clark <benlizro@ihug.co.nz> wrote:

Thanks. This has brought to my mind an old expression, "'Raus mit uns!",
that I heard from someone long ago, before I actually knew any German.
My vague recollection is that it was something you could shout to get
people out of their beds in the morning.

Yes, that works in context.

Is it a conventional expression?

Not to me.

--
Christian "naddy" Weisgerber naddy@mips.inka.de

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https://english.elpais.com/international/women-leaders-of-latin-america/2025-03-10/gabriela-salas-the-indigenous-scientist-who-brought-nahuatl-to-google-it-is-important-that-girls-study-to-be-freer.html

Gabriela Salas is a 28-year-old Mexican
scientist, originally from Puerto del
Caballo, Hidalgo, a small locality of some
20 inhabitants. Her story is not only an
example of dedication and effort, it is
also proof of the importance of the right
to education for women and their need to
train in scientific careers. “It is
important that girls study so that they
continue learning, continue fighting,
and become freer,” she says from Madrid,
where she is now studying a master’s in
data science at the Polytechnic
University. Two years ago, Salas was
recognized nationally for incorporating
the Nahuatl language, spoken by
1.6 million people in Mexico, into
Google Translate.

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