• Re: Proving my 2004 claim that some decider/input pairs are incorrect q

    From Mikko@21:1/5 to olcott on Wed Mar 13 11:10:43 2024
    On 2024-03-12 14:45:51 +0000, olcott said:

    This is my 2004 work that proposes that the halting problem has
    an unsatisfiable specification thus asks an ill-formed question.

    The question "Is the specification of halt decider satisfiable?"
    is not ill-formed.

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    Mikko

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  • From Mikko@21:1/5 to olcott on Fri Mar 15 12:34:09 2024
    On 2024-03-13 14:19:22 +0000, olcott said:

    On 3/13/2024 4:10 AM, Mikko wrote:
    On 2024-03-12 14:45:51 +0000, olcott said:

    This is my 2004 work that proposes that the halting problem has
    an unsatisfiable specification thus asks an ill-formed question.

    The question "Is the specification of halt decider satisfiable?"
    is not ill-formed.


    Whenever undecidability is anchored epistemological antinomy
    that means that the decider is trying to determine whether
    a self-contradictory expression is true or false. All of these
    cases are ill-formed.

    The self-contradictory nature of the halting problem counter-example
    input makes this input ill-formed.

    ...14 Every epistemological antinomy can likewise be used for a similar undecidability proof...
    ...We are therefore confronted with a proposition which asserts its own unprovability. 15 ...
    (Gödel 1931:43-44)

    Nice to see that you don't disagree.

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    Mikko

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  • From Richard Damon@21:1/5 to olcott on Fri Mar 15 11:29:39 2024
    On 3/15/24 7:46 AM, olcott wrote:
    On 3/15/2024 5:34 AM, Mikko wrote:
    On 2024-03-13 14:19:22 +0000, olcott said:

    On 3/13/2024 4:10 AM, Mikko wrote:
    On 2024-03-12 14:45:51 +0000, olcott said:

    This is my 2004 work that proposes that the halting problem has
    an unsatisfiable specification thus asks an ill-formed question.

    The question "Is the specification of halt decider satisfiable?"
    is not ill-formed.


    Whenever undecidability is anchored epistemological antinomy
    that means that the decider is trying to determine whether
    a self-contradictory expression is true or false. All of these
    cases are ill-formed.

    The self-contradictory nature of the halting problem counter-example
    input makes this input ill-formed.

    ...14 Every epistemological antinomy can likewise be used for a
    similar undecidability proof...
    ...We are therefore confronted with a proposition which asserts its
    own unprovability. 15 ...
    (Gödel 1931:43-44)

    Nice to see that you don't disagree.


    I just showed how and why Gödel' comments are incorrect.


    Nope, you show you don't understand them.

    Likely because you don't understand the concept of Meta-Theories

    Likely because you just don't understand the condcept of Formal Logic
    Systems.

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  • From Mikko@21:1/5 to olcott on Sun Mar 17 17:12:02 2024
    On 2024-03-15 14:46:09 +0000, olcott said:

    On 3/15/2024 5:34 AM, Mikko wrote:
    On 2024-03-13 14:19:22 +0000, olcott said:

    On 3/13/2024 4:10 AM, Mikko wrote:
    On 2024-03-12 14:45:51 +0000, olcott said:

    This is my 2004 work that proposes that the halting problem has
    an unsatisfiable specification thus asks an ill-formed question.

    The question "Is the specification of halt decider satisfiable?"
    is not ill-formed.


    Whenever undecidability is anchored epistemological antinomy
    that means that the decider is trying to determine whether
    a self-contradictory expression is true or false. All of these
    cases are ill-formed.

    The self-contradictory nature of the halting problem counter-example
    input makes this input ill-formed.

    ...14 Every epistemological antinomy can likewise be used for a similar
    undecidability proof...
    ...We are therefore confronted with a proposition which asserts its own
    unprovability. 15 ...
    (Gödel 1931:43-44)

    Nice to see that you don't disagree.


    I just showed how and why Gödel' comments are incorrect.

    No, you didn't. You just quoted some but said nothing obout them.

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    Mikko

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