• Re: Corona isn't over 2024 (Was: French Philosophy in 2024)

    From Mild Shock@21:1/5 to Mild Shock on Fri Jul 12 12:35:50 2024
    Hi,

    Forget face masks, it might be the
    beginning of a new experience for the world!

    Coronaviruses are oculotropic https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7241406/

    Bye

    Mild Shock schrieb:
    Hi,

    In 2023 Dr. Ben Goertzel praised back to
    normal, today in 2024 everybody has mysterious
    eyeinfections and a new wave is reported:

    Flirt-Varianten: Sommer-Coronawelle nimmt Fahrt auf https://www.mdr.de/wissen/medizin-gesundheit/corona-fallzahlen-sommerwelle-100.html


    Bye

    Mild Shock schrieb:
    Hi,

    Actually thridness is not only the art of making
    three-fold divisions. Usually one aims a finding
    a 3 that is the relation between 1 and 2, so that

    we have this relation satisfied:

        3(1, 2)

    Of course we can have the stance, and say that |-
    does that already. Only |- is highly ambigious,
    if you see Γ |- α you don't know what was the last

    inference rule applied. But for proof extraction
    you want exactly know that.

    Bye

    P.S.: And Peirce isn't wrong when he says thirdness
    is enough, just take set theory, which can do all
    of mathematics? Its based on  this thirdness only:

        x ∈ y

    The set membership. But set membership is as ugly as |-,
    it also doesn't say why an element belongs to a set.

    LoL

    Mild Shock schrieb:
    Hi,

    Now I had an extremly resilient correspondent, who
    wants to do proof extraction, but at the same
    time refuses to learn the Curry-Howard isomorphism.

    But its so easy, was just watching:

    Hyperon Session with Dr. Ben Goertzel
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Uy3j4WCiXQ

    At t=1853 he mentions C. S. Peirce thirdness, which
    you can use to explain the Curry-Howard isomorphism:


    1 *\        Γ = Context
       | \
       |  * 3    t = λ-Expression
       | /
    2 */        α = Type


    The above is a trikonic visualization of the judgement
    Γ |- t : α, applying the art of making three-fold divisions.

    But I guess C. S. Peirce is not read in France, since
    it requires English. Or maybe there is a french translation?

    Bye

    Mild Shock schrieb:
    Could be a wake-up call this many participants
    already in the commitee, that the whole logic
    world was asleep for many years:

    Non-Classical Logics. Theory and Applications XI,
    5-8 September 2024, Lodz (Poland)
    https://easychair.org/cfp/NCL24

    Why is Minimal Logic at the core of many things?
    Because it is the logic of Curry-Howard isomoprhism
    for symple types:

    ----------------
    Γ ∪ { A } ⊢ A

    Γ ∪ { A } ⊢ B
    ----------------
    Γ ⊢ A → B

    Γ ⊢ A → B           Δ ⊢ A
    ----------------------------
    Γ ∪ Δ ⊢ B

    And funny things can happen, especially when people
    hallucinate duality or think symmetry is given, for
    example in newer inventions such as λμ-calculus,

    but then omg ~~p => p is nevertheless not provable,
    because they forgot an inference rule. LoL

    Recommended reading so far:

    Propositional Logics Related to Heyting’s and Johansson’s
    February 2008 - Krister Segerberg
    https://www.researchgate.net/publication/228036664

    The Logic of Church and Curry
    Jonathan P. Seldin - 2009
    https://www.sciencedirect.com/handbook/handbook-of-the-history-of-logic/vol/5/suppl/C


    Meanwhile I am going back to my tinkering with my
    Prolog system, which even provides a more primitive
    logic than minimal logic, pure Prolog is minimal

    logic without embedded implication.




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  • From Mild Shock@21:1/5 to Mild Shock on Fri Jul 12 12:19:22 2024
    Hi,

    In 2023 Dr. Ben Goertzel praised back to
    normal, today in 2024 everybody has mysterious
    eyeinfections and a new wave is reported:

    Flirt-Varianten: Sommer-Coronawelle nimmt Fahrt auf https://www.mdr.de/wissen/medizin-gesundheit/corona-fallzahlen-sommerwelle-100.html

    Bye

    Mild Shock schrieb:
    Hi,

    Actually thridness is not only the art of making
    three-fold divisions. Usually one aims a finding
    a 3 that is the relation between 1 and 2, so that

    we have this relation satisfied:

       3(1, 2)

    Of course we can have the stance, and say that |-
    does that already. Only |- is highly ambigious,
    if you see Γ |- α you don't know what was the last

    inference rule applied. But for proof extraction
    you want exactly know that.

    Bye

    P.S.: And Peirce isn't wrong when he says thirdness
    is enough, just take set theory, which can do all
    of mathematics? Its based on  this thirdness only:

       x ∈ y

    The set membership. But set membership is as ugly as |-,
    it also doesn't say why an element belongs to a set.

    LoL

    Mild Shock schrieb:
    Hi,

    Now I had an extremly resilient correspondent, who
    wants to do proof extraction, but at the same
    time refuses to learn the Curry-Howard isomorphism.

    But its so easy, was just watching:

    Hyperon Session with Dr. Ben Goertzel
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Uy3j4WCiXQ

    At t=1853 he mentions C. S. Peirce thirdness, which
    you can use to explain the Curry-Howard isomorphism:


    1 *\        Γ = Context
       | \
       |  * 3    t = λ-Expression
       | /
    2 */        α = Type


    The above is a trikonic visualization of the judgement
    Γ |- t : α, applying the art of making three-fold divisions.

    But I guess C. S. Peirce is not read in France, since
    it requires English. Or maybe there is a french translation?

    Bye

    Mild Shock schrieb:
    Could be a wake-up call this many participants
    already in the commitee, that the whole logic
    world was asleep for many years:

    Non-Classical Logics. Theory and Applications XI,
    5-8 September 2024, Lodz (Poland)
    https://easychair.org/cfp/NCL24

    Why is Minimal Logic at the core of many things?
    Because it is the logic of Curry-Howard isomoprhism
    for symple types:

    ----------------
    Γ ∪ { A } ⊢ A

    Γ ∪ { A } ⊢ B
    ----------------
    Γ ⊢ A → B

    Γ ⊢ A → B           Δ ⊢ A
    ----------------------------
    Γ ∪ Δ ⊢ B

    And funny things can happen, especially when people
    hallucinate duality or think symmetry is given, for
    example in newer inventions such as λμ-calculus,

    but then omg ~~p => p is nevertheless not provable,
    because they forgot an inference rule. LoL

    Recommended reading so far:

    Propositional Logics Related to Heyting’s and Johansson’s
    February 2008 - Krister Segerberg
    https://www.researchgate.net/publication/228036664

    The Logic of Church and Curry
    Jonathan P. Seldin - 2009
    https://www.sciencedirect.com/handbook/handbook-of-the-history-of-logic/vol/5/suppl/C


    Meanwhile I am going back to my tinkering with my
    Prolog system, which even provides a more primitive
    logic than minimal logic, pure Prolog is minimal

    logic without embedded implication.



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