• "superhumaness" excels "stackoverflow reputation" (Re: Im memoriam Doug

    From Mild Shock@21:1/5 to Mild Shock on Sun Dec 1 01:10:04 2024
    Hi,

    Lets say I have to chose between pig wrestle with a
    grammar nazi stackoverflow user with 100k reputation, or
    to interact with ChatGPT that puts a lot of

    effort to understand the least cue I give, isn't
    shot in to english only, you can also use it with
    german, turkish, etc.. what ever.

    Who do I use as a programming companion, stackoverflow
    or ChatGPT. I think ChatGPT is the clear winner,
    it doesn't feature the abomination of a virtual

    prison like stackoverflow. Or as Cycorp, Inc has put
    it already decades ago:

    Common Sense Reasoning – From Cyc to Intelligent Assistant
    Doug Lenat et al. - August 2006
    2 The Case for an Ambient Research Assistant
    2.3 Components of a Truly Intelligent Computational Assistant
    Natural Language:
    An assistant system must be able to remember
    questions, statements, etc. from the user, and
    what its own response was, in order to understand
    the kinds of language ‘shortcuts’ people normally use
    in context.
    https://www.researchgate.net/publication/226813714

    Bye


    Mild Shock schrieb:
    Thats a funny quote:

    "Once you have a truly massive amount of information
    integrated as knowledge, then the human-software
    system will be superhuman, in the same sense that
    mankind with writing is superhuman compared to
    mankind before writing."

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douglas_Lenat#Quotes

    Mild Shock schrieb:
    Just reading:

    "Deep ecologists reject any mechanical
    or computer model of nature, and see
    the Earth as a living organism, which
    should be treated and understood accordingly"
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_ecology#Sources

    Now that we enter the age of AI. What
    about an AI Computer model. An AI Earth
    Computer model? Any pointers?


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  • From Mild Shock@21:1/5 to Mild Shock on Sun Dec 1 11:39:28 2024
    Hi,

    Chatgpt is definitely unreliable.

    So is stackoverflow, you have no guarantee
    to get a realiable answer. Sometimes they
    have even biased nonsense, due to the over

    representation of certain communities on
    stackoverflow. But ChatGPT it is easier to
    re-iterate a problem and explore solutions,

    you don't get punished for sloppy questions,
    or changing topic midflight exploring corner
    digging deeper and deeper.

    ChatGPT certainly beats stackoverflow.

    Also stackoverflow is extremly hysteric about
    keeping every comment trail, and has a very
    slow garbage collection. I think stackoveflow

    automatically deletes a answer with negative
    votes after a while. On the other hand ChatGPT
    keeps a side bar with all the interactions,

    and you can delete an interaction any time
    you want to do so. There is no maniac idea to
    keep interactions. Stackoverflow possibly

    only keeps this interactions to be able to
    send people to their virtual prison. Basically
    they have become a perverted para-governemental

    institution that exercises violence.

    Mild Shock schrieb:
    Hi,

    Lets say I have to chose between pig wrestle with a
    grammar nazi stackoverflow user with 100k reputation, or
    to interact with ChatGPT that puts a lot of

    effort to understand the least cue I give, isn't
    shot in to english only, you can also use it with
    german, turkish, etc.. what ever.

    Who do I use as a programming companion, stackoverflow
    or ChatGPT. I think ChatGPT is the clear winner,
    it doesn't feature the abomination of a virtual

    prison like stackoverflow. Or as Cycorp, Inc has put
    it already decades ago:

    Common Sense Reasoning – From Cyc to Intelligent Assistant
    Doug Lenat et al. - August 2006
    2 The Case for an Ambient Research Assistant
    2.3 Components of a Truly Intelligent Computational Assistant
    Natural Language:
    An assistant system must be able to remember
    questions, statements, etc. from the user, and
    what its own response was, in order to understand
    the kinds of language ‘shortcuts’ people normally use
    in context.
    https://www.researchgate.net/publication/226813714

    Bye


    Mild Shock schrieb:
    Thats a funny quote:

    "Once you have a truly massive amount of information
    integrated as knowledge, then the human-software
    system will be superhuman, in the same sense that
    mankind with writing is superhuman compared to
    mankind before writing."

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douglas_Lenat#Quotes

    Mild Shock schrieb:
    Just reading:

    "Deep ecologists reject any mechanical
    or computer model of nature, and see
    the Earth as a living organism, which
    should be treated and understood accordingly"
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_ecology#Sources

    Now that we enter the age of AI. What
    about an AI Computer model. An AI Earth
    Computer model? Any pointers?



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