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  • Re: Clock rates don't depend on 'gravity'

    From Darryle Batsman Bakshtanowsky@21:1/5 to Tom Roberts on Mon Nov 27 20:50:56 2023
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity, sci.physics

    Tom Roberts wrote:

    On 11/26/23 2:49 PM, RichD wrote:
    All at the same distance from the center?

    No. Because the earth is not a perfect ellipsoid, and does not have
    constant density.

    yes, it's obvious there is more land and continents northern hemisphere.
    The south has however the Antarctic. It's like going back to an army which openly wanted to kill you.

    ð—¡ð—²ð˜„_ð—­ð—²ð—®ð—¹ð—®ð—»ð—±_ð—¶ð˜€_ð—®_ð—–ð—¿ð—¶ð—ºð—²_ð—¦ð—°ð—²ð—»ð—²!
    https://bi%74%63hute.com/video/7v9rLA0kHH6r

    ð—¨.ð—¦._ð—”ð—¿ð—ºð˜†_ð—•ð—²ð—´ð˜€_ð—”ð—»ð˜ð—¶-ð—©ð—®ð˜…ð˜…ð—²ð—¿ð˜€_ð˜ð—¼_ð—¥ð—²ð˜ð˜‚ð—¿ð—»
    https://bi%74%63hute.com/video/xYtcyA3So3PI

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  • From Physfitfreak@21:1/5 to Darryle Batsman Bakshtanowsky on Mon Nov 27 18:21:37 2023
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity, sci.physics

    On 11/27/2023 2:50 PM, Darryle Batsman Bakshtanowsky wrote:


    ð—¡ð—²ð˜„_ð—­ð—²ð—®ð—¹ð—®ð—»ð—±_ð—¶ð˜€_ð—®_ð—–ð—¿ð—¶ð—ºð—²_ð—¦ð—°ð—²ð—»ð—²!
    https://bi%74%63hute.com/video/7v9rLA0kHH6r


    Other than the bullshit that only suits a moron like you Hanson, her
    accent, heavily suppressed to sound like American, still managed to take
    me back four decades to one of our professors (from New Zealand).

    I never forget that. "eaksityshan laya" (excitation layer!). Hehe :-)

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  • From Dickie Makhalin Belikovich@21:1/5 to Physfitfreak on Tue Nov 28 15:42:08 2023
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity, sci.physics

    Physfitfreak wrote:

    On 11/27/2023 2:50 PM, Darryle Batsman Bakshtanowsky wrote:
    ð—¡ð—²ð˜„_ð—­ð—²ð—®ð—¹ð—®ð—»ð—±_ð—¶ð˜€_ð—®_ð—–ð—¿ð—¶ð—ºð—²_ð—¦ð—°ð—²ð—»ð—²!
    https://bi%74%63hute.com/video/7v9rLA0kHH6r

    Other than the bullshit that only suits a moron like you Hanson, her
    accent, heavily suppressed to sound like American, still managed to take
    me back four decades to one of our professors (from New Zealand).
    I never forget that. "eaksityshan laya" (excitation layer!). Hehe

    you don't undrestand shit, fucking stupid. Nor PDE, matrices, groups and tensors. How about now??

    ð—”ð—¿ð—°ð—µð—¯ð—¶ð˜€ð—µð—¼ð—½_ð—–ð—®ð—¿ð—¹ð—¼_ð— ð—®ð—¿ð—¶ð—®_ð—©ð—¶ð—´ð—®ð—»ð—¼
    https://rumble.com/v1w4jom-archbishop-carlo-maria-vigano.html

    ð—©ð—®ð—°ð—°ð—¶ð—»ð—²_ð—¶ð—»ð—·ð˜‚ð—¿ð—¶ð—²ð˜€._ð—ªð—µð—®ð˜_ð˜ð—µð—²ð˜†_ð—µð—®ð˜ƒð—²_ð—±ð—¼ð—»ð—²_ð˜ð—¼_ð—µð˜‚ð—ºð—®ð—»ð—¶ð˜ð˜†_ð—¶ð˜€_ð—½ð˜‚ð—¿ð—²_ð—²ð˜ƒð—¶ð—¹._ð—ªð—®ð˜ð—°ð—µ_ð—®ð˜_ð˜†ð—¼
    ð˜‚ð—¿_ð—¼ð˜„ð—»_ð—¿ð—¶ð˜€ð—¸ https://bi%74%63hute.com/video/f7dSmddUvLPN

    kiss my ass.

    https://thepeoplesvoice.tv/

    ð—”ð—¿ð—°ð—µð—¯ð—¶ð˜€ð—µð—¼ð—½ ð—©ð—¶ð—´ð—®ð—»ð—¼: ð—ªð—² ð—”ð—¿ð—² ð—¨ð—»ð—±ð—²ð—¿ð—´ð—¼ð—¶ð—»ð—´ ð—” ð—šð—¹ð—¼ð—¯ð—®ð—¹ ð—–ð—¼ð˜‚ð—½ ð——’éð˜ð—®ð˜ & ð— ð˜‚ð˜€ð˜ ð—™ð—¶ð—´ð—µð˜ ð—•ð—®ð—°ð—¸
    ð—¢ð—¿
    ð—Ÿð—¼ð˜€ð—² ð—˜ð˜ƒð—²ð—¿ð˜†ð˜ð—µð—¶ð—»ð—´

    ð—ªð—˜ð—™:_‘ð—”ð—¹ð—¹_ð—§ð—¿ð—®ð˜ƒð—²ð—¹_ð—ªð—¶ð—¹ð—¹_ð—¦ð—¼ð—¼ð—»_ð—•ð—²_ð—¥ð—²ð˜€ð˜ð—¿ð—¶ð—°ð˜ð—²ð—±_ð—¯ð˜†_ð—£ð—²ð—¿ð˜€ð—¼ð—»ð—®ð—¹_ð—–ð—®ð—¿ð—¯ð—¼ð—»_ð—”ð—¹ð—¹ð—¼ð˜„ð—®ð—»ð—°ð—²ð˜€â€™

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  • From Bryant Ustimovich Davletov@21:1/5 to RichD on Sat Dec 2 13:45:02 2023
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity, sci.physics

    RichD wrote:

    On November 26, Tom Roberts wrote:
    there is an obvious physical centre: the point at which the Newtonian
    potential is lowest.
    That would be the center of mass.
    The geoid is defined a set of points at the same potential?
    To a physicist, the geoid is the locus of all points on earth that have
    the same metric (considering just the earth). For all practical
    purposes this is the same as having the same Newtonian gravitational
    potential.

    Is there an Einstein gravitational potential, is that well defined?

    no there isn't. Einstine knew no mechanics, electronics. Not an electronic engineer. However, this ð—®ð—ºð—²ð—¿ð—¶ð—°ð—®ð—»_ð—–ð—µð—¿ð—¶ð˜€ð˜ð—¶ð—®ð—» here is saying ð˜ð—µð—²_ð—¯ð—¹ð—¶ð—»ð—¸ð—²ð—» is a
    member of ð˜ð—µð—²_{ð˜ð—¿ð—¶ð—¯ð—²}. Any other around here, member of the {ð˜ð—¿ð—¶ð—¯ð—²}??

    ð—–ð—¢ð—£28_ð—”ð—±ð—¼ð—½ð˜ð˜€_ð—–ð—¹ð—¶ð—ºð—®ð˜ð—²_ð—ð˜‚ð˜€ð˜ð—¶ð—°ð—²_ð—ªð—²ð—®ð—¹ð˜ð—µ_ð—¥ð—²ð—±ð—¶ð˜€ð˜ð—¿ð—¶ð—¯ð˜‚ð˜ð—¶ð—¼ð—»_ð—¦ð—°ð—µð—²ð—ºð—²
    https://bi%74%63hute.com/video/RcRoSyvhFIBg/

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  • From Jacob Bakhtadze Halapkhaev@21:1/5 to Ross Finlayson on Mon Dec 4 16:37:17 2023
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity, sci.physics

    Ross Finlayson wrote:

    In a region wit weak fields and velocities << c, GR reduces
    approximately to Newtonian gravitation, with the approximation being
    exceedingly good. Tom Roberts

    Nobody's quite sure how gravity works as it would involve assuming a perpetuum mobile by the usual theories, so there's lots going into why "quantum gravity" is really some "total field gravity" which arrives
    must be some "fall gavity".

    none of which. There is no "fall gravity", but merely my "ð—¢ð—»_ð˜ð—µð—²_ð——ð—¶ð˜ƒð—²ð—¿ð—´ð—²ð—»ð˜_ð— ð—®ð˜ð—²ð—¿_ð—¼ð—³_ð˜ð—µð—²_ð— ð—¼ð˜ƒð—¶ð—»ð—´_ð—žð—¼ð—²ð—¿ð—½ð—²ð—¿ð˜€_ð— ð—¼ð—±ð—²ð—¹". Good point. One more to
    add to the stream.

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  • From Stanely Turbin Bazarov@21:1/5 to Ross Finlayson on Tue Dec 5 17:32:42 2023
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity, sci.physics

    Ross Finlayson wrote:

    So, hopefully you understand that the same experiments,
    and same data, have this different sort interpretation,
    with as much or more explanatory power, from less, and, that it helps reconcile GR and SR, and, other relevant theories, like QM, with a

    yes sure. The ð—¸ð—µð—®ð˜‡ð—®ð—¿_ð—´ð—¼ð˜†ð˜€_ð—¼ð—³_ð—®ð—ºð—²ð—¿ð—¶ð—°ð—® are sick in their fucking head.

    ð—¨ð—¸ð—¿ð—®ð—¶ð—»ð—²_ð—¶ð—´ð—»ð—¼ð—¿ð—²ð—±_ð—¨ð—¦_'ð—°ð—¼ð˜‚ð—»ð˜ð—²ð—¿-ð—¼ð—³ð—³ð—²ð—»ð˜€ð—¶ð˜ƒð—²'_ð˜€ð˜ð—¿ð—®ð˜ð—²ð—´ð˜†_–_ð—ªð—®ð—£ð—¼
    Washington reportedly wanted a single focused advance sooner, but Kiev disagreed
    https://r%74.com/russia/588498-ukraine-offensive-postmortem-wapo/

    General Mark Milley, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff at the time,
    advised the Ukrainians to also send sabotage groups into the Russian rear, saying there “should be no Russian who goes to sleep ð˜„ð—¶ð˜ð—µð—¼ð˜‚ð˜ ð˜„ð—¼ð—»ð—±ð—²ð—¿ð—¶ð—»ð—´ ð—¶ð—³
    ð˜ð—µð—²ð˜†â€™ð—¿ð—² ð—´ð—¼ð—¶ð—»ð—´ ð˜ð—¼ ð—´ð—²ð˜ ð˜ð—µð—²ð—¶ð—¿ ð˜ð—µð—¿ð—¼ð—®ð˜ ð˜€ð—¹ð—¶ð˜ ð—¶ð—» ð˜ð—µð—² ð—ºð—¶ð—±ð—±ð—¹ð—² ð—¼ð—³ ð˜ð—µð—² ð—»ð—¶ð—´ð—µð˜,†according to one
    official.

    clearly ð—®_ð—–ð—¿ð—¶ð—ºð—²_ð—®ð—´ð—®ð—¶ð—»ð˜€ð˜_ð—›ð˜‚ð—ºð—®ð—»ð—¶ð˜ð˜†. A ð˜„ð—®ð—¿_ð—°ð—¿ð—¶ð—ºð—². How these wankers walk
    unpunished on the face of the earth, I have no idea.

    Mark Milley is a damn disgrace, but a disgrace in a good way for the
    Russians. He's a useful idiot in terms of Ukraines defeat. But all
    together hes a stupid sob.

    Kiev is supported by 50+ NATO and western friendly military allies ,yet
    failed miserably to win a total war against Mother Russia. Ukranazi
    commanders should do the honour of committing harakiri to appease their
    dead soldiers in this futile war.

    A series of eight tabletop wargames at the US base in Wiesbaden.'' ... Why didn't the yanks ask Hollywood how yankraine could win??

    USA and British in their deluded minds think they will go scores free with
    all ð˜ð—µð—²ð—¶ð—¿ ð—²ð˜ƒð—¶ð—¹ ð—®ð—°ð˜ð—¶ð˜ƒð—¶ð˜ð—¶ð—²ð˜€ ð—®ð—¿ð—¼ð˜‚ð—»ð—± ð˜ð—µð—² ð˜„ð—¼ð—¿ð—¹ð—±. Setting ð—»ð—²ð—¶ð—´ð—µð—¯ð—¼ð—¿ð˜€ ð—®ð—»ð—± ð—¯ð—¿ð—¼ð˜ð—µð—²ð—¿ð˜€ ð—®ð—´ð—®ð—¶ð—»ð
    ˜€ð˜
    ð—²ð—®ð—°ð—µ ð—¼ð˜ð—µð—²ð—¿ for their own selfish and hateful ends. Their own judgments will
    be horrible and their so called enemies will pity them.

    Have ANY of these "Western" military "leaders" ever WON a war? I am
    American citizen in my 80s, there has been not "WINS" since WWll. That's
    when we nuked Japan. I really don't think the U.S. and all its Europe
    friends would have defeated Germany it it wasn't for Russia beating the
    hell out of the Germans who were stupid enough to attack Russia. Russia
    paid a major price but defeated powerful German forces and we Americans
    never even thanked them. No America don't win wars they simply just kill
    and be killed while getting other countries to do the same, but, where are
    the winners?

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  • From Roscoe Molodensky Baiguloff@21:1/5 to Physfitfreak on Wed Dec 6 09:45:21 2023
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity, sci.physics

    Physfitfreak wrote:

    On 12/5/2023 11:32 AM, Stanely Turbin Bazarov wrote:
    Mark Milley is a damn disgrace, but a disgrace in a good way for the
    Russians. He's a useful idiot in terms of Ukraines defeat. But all
    together hes a stupid sob.

    Hanson, you dumb ass, he is one of the better ones in the military.

    lol, if not mistaken, he was threatening ð—±ð—¿ð˜‚ð—ºð—½ð—³, if elected president "ð˜„ð—²
    ð—®ð—¿ð—² ð—ºð—¼ð—¿ð—² ð˜ð—µð—®ð—» ð—µð—¶ð—º", hence you have ð˜ð—µð—² ð—ºð—¶ð—¹ð—¶ð˜ð—®ð—¿ð˜† ð˜ð—µð—¿ð—²ð—®ð˜ð—²ð—»ð—¶ð—»ð—´ ð˜ð—µð—² ð—½ð—¿ð—²ð˜€ð—¶ð—±ð—²ð—»ð˜, on TV.
    How is that better, you fucking ð—®ð—ºð—®ð—¿ð˜‚ð—°ð—®ð—» ð—¶ð—±ð—¶ð—¼ð˜. It looks like you are the
    stupidest ð—ºð—²ð—ºð—¯ð—²ð—¿ ð—¼ð—³ ð˜ð—µð—² {ð˜ð—¿ð—¶ð—¯ð—²} in this forum. ð—¡ð˜‚ð—¿ð—²ð—ºð—¯ð—²ð—¿ð—´_2 are waiting for
    you dirty wankers. ð—–ð—¿ð—¶ð—ºð—²ð˜€ ð—®ð—´ð—®ð—¶ð—»ð˜€ð˜ ð—µð˜‚ð—ºð—®ð—»ð—¶ð˜ð˜†, ð˜„ð—®ð—¿_ð—°ð—¿ð—¶ð—ºð—²ð˜€, genocide, ð—°ð—¿ð—¶ð—ºð—²ð˜€ ð—¶ð—»
    ð—´ð—²ð—»ð—²ð—¿ð—®ð—¹ etc.

    ð—¨ð—¸ð—¿ð—®ð—¶ð—»ð—²'ð˜€_ð—­ð—²ð—¹ð—²ð—»ð˜€ð—¸ð˜†_ð—–ð—”ð—¨ð—šð—›ð—§_ð—•ð˜‚ð˜†ð—¶ð—»ð—´_$75_ð— ð—¶ð—¹ð—¹ð—¶ð—¼ð—»_ð—Ÿð˜‚ð˜…ð˜‚ð—¿ð˜†_ð—¬ð—®ð—°ð—µð˜_ð—ªð—¶ð˜ð—µ_ð—¨.ð—¦._ð— ð—¼ð—»ð—²ð˜†
    https://bi%74%63hute.com/video/EwMFbIVgb95n

    ð—”ð—¿ð—²ð˜€ð˜ð—¼ð˜ƒð—¶ð—°ð—µ_-_ð—ªð—²_ð—ºð—²ð˜€ð˜€ð—²ð—±_ð˜‚ð—½...ð˜„ð—²_ð—½ð—¶ð—°ð—¸ð—²ð—±_ð˜ð—µð—²_ð—¹ð—¼ð˜€ð—¶ð—»ð—´_ð˜€ð—¶ð—±ð—²_ð—¥ð—²ð—®ð—¹ð—¶ð˜‡ð—®ð˜ð—¶ð—¼ð—»ð˜€_ð—µð—¶ð˜_ð—µð—®ð—¿ð—±
    https://bi%74%63hute.com/video/wyHKAREypONV

    ð—”ð—¿ð—²ð˜€ð˜ð—¼ð˜ƒð—¶ð—°ð—µ_ð—®ð—±ð—ºð—¶ð˜ð˜€_ð—”ð—ºð—²ð—¿ð—¶ð—°ð—®_ð—°ð—®ð—»'ð˜_ð—°ð—¼ð—ºð—½ð—²ð˜ð—²_ð˜„ð—¶ð˜ð—µ_ð˜ð—µð—²_ð—¶ð—»ð—±ð˜‚ð˜€ð˜ð—¿ð—¶ð—®ð—¹_ð—½ð—¼ð˜„ð—²ð—¿ð—µð—¼ð˜‚ð˜€ð—²ð
    ˜€_ð—¼ð—³_ð—¥ð˜‚ð˜€ð˜€ð—¶ð—® https://bi%74%63hute.com/video/rPty8Zlajin7

    ð—¦ð—›ð—¢ð—–ð—žð—œð—¡ð—š_ð—™ð—¼ð—¼ð˜ð—®ð—´ð—²_ð—¢ð—³_ð—šð—®ð˜‡ð—®_ð——ð—²ð˜€ð˜ð—¿ð˜‚ð—°ð˜ð—¶ð—¼n
    https://bi%74%63hute.com/video/0Oayk1od9co

    95_ð—£ð—²ð—¿ð—°ð—²ð—»ð˜_ð—¢ð—³_ð—ªð—¼ð—¿ð—¹ð—±'ð˜€_ð—£ð—¿ð—¼ð˜ð—²ð˜€ð˜ð˜€_ð—”ð—¿ð—²_ð—£ð—¿ð—¼-ð—£ð—®ð—¹ð—²ð˜€ð˜ð—¶ð—»ð—²_ð—®ð—»ð—±_ð—”ð—šð—”ð—œð—¡ð—¦ð—§_ð—¼ð—°ð—°ð˜‚ð—½ð—¶ð—²ð—±_ð—£ð—®ð—¹ð—²ð
    ˜€ð˜ð—¶ð—»ð—²
    https://bi%74%63hute.com/video/kcfdfPFG7EnY

    ð—•ð—¨ð—¥ð—¬ð—œð—¡ð—š_ð—•ð˜‚ð—¿ð—»ð—²ð—±_ð—–ð—®ð—¿ð˜€_ð—§ð—µð—²ð˜†_ð—”ð˜ð˜ð—®ð—°ð—¸ð—²ð—±_ð—¢ð—»_ð—¢ð—°ð˜ð—¼ð—¯ð—²ð—¿_7ð˜ð—µ
    https://bi%74%63hute.com/video/28gYkMFWAyUl

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  • From Coke Bir@21:1/5 to Ken Seto on Thu Dec 7 17:23:36 2023
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity, sci.physics

    Ken Seto wrote:

    .T̶h̶e̶r̶e̶f̶o̶r̶e̶ h̶i̶s̶ c̶l̶o̶c̶k̶ w̶i̶l̶l̶ a̶c̶c̶u̶m̶u̶l̶a̶t̶e̶ c̶l̶o̶c̶k̶ s̶e̶c̶o̶n̶d̶ a̶t̶ a̶ f̶a̶s̶t̶e̶s̶t̶ r̶a̶t̶e̶ i̶n̶ a̶
    g̶r̶a̶v̶i̶t̶y̶ e̶n̶v̶i̶r̶o̶n̶m̶e̶n̶t̶.

    you don't even know what ð™–ð™˜ð™˜ð™ªð™¢ð™ªð™¡ð™–ð™©ð™š stands for, you fucking liar and thief.
    It must be your country and culture of thieves of america.

    ð—–ð—µð—¶ð—»ð—®_ð˜ð—²ð—¹ð—¹ð˜€_ð—˜ð—¨_ð˜ð—¼_ð˜ð—®ð—¹ð—¸_ð˜ð—¼_ð—¥ð˜‚ð˜€ð˜€ð—¶ð—®
    Beijing tried to warn Brussels that sanctions and military aid would not
    work against Moscow, diplomat Wu Hongbo has said https://r%74.com/news/588681-china-eu-ukraine-talks/

    rofl, they tried doing a soviet union 2.0 against russia, at same time
    tried to do a 'gaddafi' on Putin using ukraine cannon fodders.
    ahahahhaahaha lmao, it all FAILED. world leaders non-westerners sided with russia instead. ahahahhahaa

    They EU fool Ukraine bite Russia then they press China to press Russia to surrender … How? It’s extremely stinking fuckery bullshit.

    EU painted themselves into a corner. They only have themselves to blame.
    They are liars and thieves.

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  • From Rhett Gehman Batukov@21:1/5 to mitchr...@gmail.com on Thu Dec 7 18:43:42 2023
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity, sci.physics

    mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:

    Absolute motion with respect to what?

    A̶b̶s̶o̶l̶u̶t̶e̶ m̶o̶t̶i̶o̶n̶ i̶s̶ w̶i̶t̶h̶ r̶e̶s̶p̶e̶c̶t̶ t̶o̶ s̶p̶a̶c̶e̶ jan.
    Immaterial space is unmarked.

    space alone is immaterial, my friend. You can't put a reference frame on
    space alone. You must chose a point, which succincts the
    material. ð—Ÿð—¼ð—¹, ð—¿ð—¼ð—³ð—¹, ð—¹ð—ºð—®ð—¼, ð—®ð—®ð—®ð—µð—®ð—µð—®ð—µð—®ð—µð—®ð—µð—®ð—®ð—®!!

    ð—§ð—¿ð˜‚ð—ºð—½_ð˜„ð—¶ð—¹ð—¹_ð—¹ð—²ð—®ð˜ƒð—²_ð—¡ð—”ð—§ð—¢_–_ð—²ð˜…_ð—£ð—²ð—»ð˜ð—®ð—´ð—¼ð—»_ð—°ð—µð—¶ð—²ð—³
    Without the US to hold it up, the bloc would “collapse,†Mark Esper has told MSNBC
    https://r%74.com/news/588687-trump-withdraw-nato-esper/

    After the successful completion of Russia's SMO in Ukraine, NATO as the military bully of the Yankees is finished. The EU is also finished.

    NATO has been on thin ice since Russia ð—¶ð—»ð˜ð—²ð—¿ð˜ƒð—²ð—»ð—²ð—± ð—¶ð—» ð—¦ð˜†ð—¿ð—¶ð—® on the request of
    Bashar al-Assad , back in September the 30th 2015 . Lol, rofl, lmao, ð—¯ð˜„ð—®ð—®ð—®ð—µð—®ð—µð—®ð—µð—®ð—®ð—®ð—®ð—®. That was a dire warning for the US led NATO coalition.

    I agree with that. Get the US out of NATO and let NATO collaps. NOW - we
    need to get rid of Israel. Israel is one more millstone round our neck,
    one more parasite. We need to cut the cord now! Our subservience to Israel
    has contributed to the hatred against American around the world. It's time
    to restore American independence! AMERICA FIRST!

    He's just another pro-war jerk on TV. It doesn't look like Congress will provide any more money for Ukraine. And Ukraine isn't part of NATO so I
    don't follow his logic at a NATO collapse.

    America may be looking towards a few years of peace -- what a horrible
    scenario for Washington! Not happening - peace is not on the Zionist
    agenda.

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