Volney wrote:
On 12/17/2023 12:08 PM, JanPB wrote:
On Thursday, December 14, 2023 at 8:39:34â¯PM UTC-8, The Starmaker
wrote:
by now most of yous heard Google Groups will shut down for good...
Well, it was fun while it lasted (I started posting to Usenet in
1985). -- Jan
Why do you say that? There are many newsreaders and NNTP servers in
existence for you to use. Since you were posting in 1985, long before
there was any such a thing as Google Groups (or even Google), you know
this.
Jan is loosing it...
Well, it was fun while it lasted (I started posting to Usenet in
1985). -- Jan
Why do you say that? There are many newsreaders and NNTP servers in
existence for you to use. Since you were posting in 1985, long before
there was any such a thing as Google Groups (or even Google), you
know this.
Jan is loosing it...
indeed. With the year too. He meant 1995. In 1985 were mostly Bulletin
Board Systems, aka BBS. But the usenet went kaput since former
dejanews,
where posting needs no account, phone number etc.
USENET was established in 1980.
However the unwashed masses had limited access until the late 80's when
NNTP access became available and the masses were starting to get
Internet access. The demise of dejanews had little to no effect on
USENET.
The Starmaker wrote:
Volney wrote:
On 12/17/2023 12:08 PM, JanPB wrote:
On Thursday, December 14, 2023 at 8:39:34â?¯PM UTC-8, The Starmaker
wrote:
by now most of yous heard Google Groups will shut down for good...
Well, it was fun while it lasted (I started posting to Usenet in
1985). -- Jan
Why do you say that? There are many newsreaders and NNTP servers in
existence for you to use. Since you were posting in 1985, long before
there was any such a thing as Google Groups (or even Google), you know
this.
Jan is loosing it...
indeed. With the year too. He meant 1995. In 1985 were mostly Bulletin
Board Systems, aka BBS. But the usenet went kaput since former dejanews, where posting needs no account, phone number etc.
Jim Pennino wrote:
Well, it was fun while it lasted (I started posting to Usenet in
1985). -- Jan
Why do you say that? There are many newsreaders and NNTP servers in
existence for you to use. Since you were posting in 1985, long before >>>>> there was any such a thing as Google Groups (or even Google), you
know this.
Jan is loosing it...
indeed. With the year too. He meant 1995. In 1985 were mostly Bulletin
Board Systems, aka BBS. But the usenet went kaput since former
dejanews,
where posting needs no account, phone number etc.
USENET was established in 1980.
However the unwashed masses had limited access until the late 80's when
NNTP access became available and the masses were starting to get
Internet access. The demise of dejanews had little to no effect on
USENET.
it had, a search on deja was a search on usenet already. Plus interface
for read and post. Also, in 1985 he must have been using Commodore with magnetic tapes. No usenet, no www etc. You guys are making shit up like manure of a cow.
Jim Pennino formulated on Sunday :
In sci.physics Micki Marushko Barabashev <ukms@mmsiokio.sk> wrote:
The Starmaker wrote:
Volney wrote:
On 12/17/2023 12:08 PM, JanPB wrote:
On Thursday, December 14, 2023 at 8:39:34â?¯PM UTC-8, The Starmaker >>>>>> wrote:
by now most of yous heard Google Groups will shut down for good... >>>>>>Well, it was fun while it lasted (I started posting to Usenet in
1985). -- Jan
Why do you say that? There are many newsreaders and NNTP servers in
existence for you to use. Since you were posting in 1985, long before >>>>> there was any such a thing as Google Groups (or even Google), you know >>>>> this.
Jan is loosing it...
indeed. With the year too. He meant 1995. In 1985 were mostly Bulletin
Board Systems, aka BBS. But the usenet went kaput since former dejanews, >>> where posting needs no account, phone number etc.
USENET was established in 1980.
From Wikipedia:
"Brian Kantor of the University of California, San Diego, and Phil
Lapsley of the University of California, Berkeley, wrote RFC 977, the specification for the Network News Transfer Protocol, in March 1986.
Other contributors included Stan O. Barber from the Baylor College of Medicine and Erik Fair of Apple Computer."
So, you are saying that the Usenet predates the protocol it uses?
However the unwashed masses had limited access until the late 80's when
NNTP access became available and the masses were starting to get
Internet access.
The demise of dejanews had little to no effect on USENET.
But the rise of Google Groups and the, IMO, mishandling of the system
by them made a real mess.
it had, a search on deja was a search on usenet already. Plus interface
for read and post. Also, in 1985 he must have been using Commodore with
magnetic tapes. No usenet, no www etc. You guys are making shit up like
manure of a cow.
Before the late 80's USENET was distributed vi UUCP over phone lines.
Most of the USENET nodes were mainframes of one sort or another and you
had to associated with government, academia, or government contracting
to get access.
It happens that Jim Pennino formulated :
In sci.physics FromTheRafters <FTR@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
Jim Pennino formulated on Sunday :
In sci.physics Micki Marushko Barabashev <ukms@mmsiokio.sk> wrote:
The Starmaker wrote:
Volney wrote:
On 12/17/2023 12:08 PM, JanPB wrote:
On Thursday, December 14, 2023 at 8:39:34â?¯PM UTC-8, The Starmaker >>>>>>>> wrote:
by now most of yous heard Google Groups will shut down for good... >>>>>>>>Well, it was fun while it lasted (I started posting to Usenet in >>>>>>>> 1985). -- Jan
Why do you say that? There are many newsreaders and NNTP servers in >>>>>>> existence for you to use. Since you were posting in 1985, long before >>>>>>> there was any such a thing as Google Groups (or even Google), you know >>>>>>> this.
Jan is loosing it...
indeed. With the year too. He meant 1995. In 1985 were mostly Bulletin >>>>> Board Systems, aka BBS. But the usenet went kaput since former dejanews, >>>>> where posting needs no account, phone number etc.
USENET was established in 1980.
From Wikipedia:
"Brian Kantor of the University of California, San Diego, and Phil
Lapsley of the University of California, Berkeley, wrote RFC 977, the
specification for the Network News Transfer Protocol, in March 1986.
Other contributors included Stan O. Barber from the Baylor College of
Medicine and Erik Fair of Apple Computer."
So, you are saying that the Usenet predates the protocol it uses?
Prior to NNTP, USENET was distributed vi UUCP over dial up phone lines.
From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usenet, first paragraph:
"It was developed from the general-purpose Unix-to-Unix Copy (UUCP)
dial-up network architecture. Tom Truscott and Jim Ellis conceived the
idea in 1979, and it was established in 1980."
Yes, in the same sense that astronomy was developed from astrology and chemistry from alchemy.
In sci.physics FromTheRafters <FTR@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
Jim Pennino formulated on Sunday :
However the unwashed masses had limited access until the late 80's when
NNTP access became available and the masses were starting to get
Internet access.
The demise of dejanews had little to no effect on USENET.
But the rise of Google Groups and the, IMO, mishandling of the system
by them made a real mess.
Yes, USENET turned to crap when everyone, no matter how insane, got
access.
Jim Pennino wrote:
it had, a search on deja was a search on usenet already. Plus interface
for read and post. Also, in 1985 he must have been using Commodore with
magnetic tapes. No usenet, no www etc. You guys are making shit up like
manure of a cow.
Before the late 80's USENET was distributed vi UUCP over phone lines.
Most of the USENET nodes were mainframes of one sort or another and you
had to associated with government, academia, or government contracting
to get access.
yes, but it was directly to a BBS, then going to something called 𝗳𝗶𝗱𝗼𝗻𝗲𝘁. I
doubt it was in 1985.
The only effect of the move from UUCP to NNTP was a reduction in article latency.
Using UUCP articles were queued to be sent to non-local USENET nodes at
night when the telephone rates went down.
In sci.physics Lonnie Lohno <llno@loonehln.ni> wrote:
Jim Pennino wrote:
it had, a search on deja was a search on usenet already. Plus
interface for read and post. Also, in 1985 he must have been using
Commodore with magnetic tapes. No usenet, no www etc. You guys are
making shit up like manure of a cow.
Before the late 80's USENET was distributed vi UUCP over phone lines.
Most of the USENET nodes were mainframes of one sort or another and
you had to associated with government, academia, or government
contracting to get access.
yes, but it was directly to a BBS, then going to something called
𝗳𝗶𝗱𝗼𝗻𝗲𝘁. I doubt it was in 1985.
Garbled nonsense.
The basic structure of how articles pass from server to server and to
clients has not changed, only the underlying physical transfer has
changed from modems over phone lines to direct TCP/IP connections.
Jim Pennino wrote:
In sci.physics Lonnie Lohno <llno@loonehln.ni> wrote:
Jim Pennino wrote:
it had, a search on deja was a search on usenet already. Plus
interface for read and post. Also, in 1985 he must have been using
Commodore with magnetic tapes. No usenet, no www etc. You guys are
making shit up like manure of a cow.
Before the late 80's USENET was distributed vi UUCP over phone lines.
Most of the USENET nodes were mainframes of one sort or another and
you had to associated with government, academia, or government
contracting to get access.
yes, but it was directly to a BBS, then going to something called
𝗳𝗶𝗱𝗼𝗻𝗲𝘁. I doubt it was in 1985.
Garbled nonsense.
The basic structure of how articles pass from server to server and to
clients has not changed, only the underlying physical transfer has
changed from modems over phone lines to direct TCP/IP connections.
this imbecile doesn't know what fidonet is and how BBS and the wire
telephone works. You fucking imbecile. You are wasting our time.
Jim Pennino wrote:
The only effect of the move from UUCP to NNTP was a reduction in article
latency.
Using UUCP articles were queued to be sent to non-local USENET nodes at
night when the telephone rates went down.
uucp was used to email before any nntp. You don't know the shit you think
you know. Unix2unix copy protocol has nothing to do with the telephone, idiot.
In sci.physics George Babit Badoff <ddfn@gnero/af.gf> wrote:
Jim Pennino wrote:
The only effect of the move from UUCP to NNTP was a reduction in
article latency.
Using UUCP articles were queued to be sent to non-local USENET nodes
at night when the telephone rates went down.
uucp was used to email before any nntp. You don't know the shit you
think you know. Unix2unix copy protocol has nothing to do with the
telephone, idiot.
And yet another Dunning–Kruger Russian moron displays his ignorance.
"UUCP (Unix-to-Unix Copy)
On 12/18/2023 11:24 AM, Jim Pennino wrote:
But the rise of Google Groups and the, IMO, mishandling of the system
by them made a real mess.
Yes, USENET turned to crap when everyone, no matter how insane, got
access.
a.k.a. "Eternal September".
On 12/18/2023 11:24 AM, Jim Pennino wrote:
In sci.physics FromTheRafters <FTR@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
Jim Pennino formulated on Sunday :
a.k.a. "Eternal September".However the unwashed masses had limited access until the late 80's when >>>> NNTP access became available and the masses were starting to get
Internet access.
The demise of dejanews had little to no effect on USENET.
But the rise of Google Groups and the, IMO, mishandling of the system
by them made a real mess.
Yes, USENET turned to crap when everyone, no matter how insane, got
access.
Jim Pennino wrote:
In sci.physics George Babit Badoff <ddfn@gnero/af.gf> wrote:
Jim Pennino wrote:
The only effect of the move from UUCP to NNTP was a reduction in
article latency.
Using UUCP articles were queued to be sent to non-local USENET nodes
at night when the telephone rates went down.
uucp was used to email before any nntp. You don't know the shit you
think you know. Unix2unix copy protocol has nothing to do with the
telephone, idiot.
And yet another Dunning–Kruger Russian moron displays his ignorance.
"UUCP (Unix-to-Unix Copy)
copy 𝗣𝗥𝗢𝗧𝗢𝗖𝗢𝗟, fucking stoopid. Copy in unix is just 𝗰𝗽, in 𝗮𝗻𝘆 protocol.
You don't even undrestand letters, idiot.
On Mon, 18 Dec 2023 13:15:00 -0500, Volney <volney@invalid.invalid>
wrote:
On 12/18/2023 11:24 AM, Jim Pennino wrote:
In sci.physics FromTheRafters <FTR@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:a.k.a. "Eternal September".
Jim Pennino formulated on Sunday :
However the unwashed masses had limited access until the late 80's when >>>>> NNTP access became available and the masses were starting to get
Internet access.
The demise of dejanews had little to no effect on USENET.
But the rise of Google Groups and the, IMO, mishandling of the system
by them made a real mess.
Yes, USENET turned to crap when everyone, no matter how insane, got
access.
Eternal-September is an open server, but to their credit, they have
little tolerance for spam. Usenet has become a dinosaur and it's the
reason access is diminishing. Personally, I liked Google's web reader
until it became overwhelmed with spammers
"Brian Kantor of the University of California, San Diego, and Phil
Lapsley of the University of California, Berkeley, wrote RFC 977,
the specification for the Network News Transfer Protocol, in March
1986. Other contributors included Stan O. Barber from the Baylor
College of Medicine and Erik Fair of Apple Computer."
So, you are saying that the Usenet predates the protocol it uses?
On Mon, 18 Dec 2023 13:15:00 -0500, Volney <volney@invalid.invalid>
wrote:
On 12/18/2023 11:24 AM, Jim Pennino wrote:
In sci.physics FromTheRafters <FTR@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:a.k.a. "Eternal September".
Jim Pennino formulated on Sunday :
However the unwashed masses had limited access until the late 80's when >>>>> NNTP access became available and the masses were starting to get
Internet access.
The demise of dejanews had little to no effect on USENET.
But the rise of Google Groups and the, IMO, mishandling of the system
by them made a real mess.
Yes, USENET turned to crap when everyone, no matter how insane, got
access.
Eternal-September is an open server, but to their credit, they have
little tolerance for spam. Usenet has become a dinosaur and it's the
reason access is diminishing. Personally, I liked Google's web reader
until it became overwhelmed with spammers
On 12/18/2023 3:18 PM, Jim Pennino wrote:
this imbecile doesn't know what fidonet is and how BBS and the wire
telephone works. You fucking imbecile. You are wasting our time.
Yet another Dunning–Kruger moron posting from an invalid domain...
Same Dunning–Kruger moron, the nymshifting russian troll.
No wonder the nymshifter is so confused. In 卐ru⚡︎⚡︎ia卐, FidoNet and
UUCP are state of the art.
On 12/18/2023 4:15 PM, JohnN wrote:
Eternal-September is an open server, but to their credit, they haveIt sounds like you don't know what "Eternal September" meant before the
little tolerance for spam. Usenet has become a dinosaur and it's the
reason access is diminishing. Personally, I liked Google's web reader
until it became overwhelmed with spammers
NNTP server by that name started using it.
Hint: Today is September 11067, 1993.
Volney wrote:
On 12/18/2023 4:15 PM, JohnN wrote:
Eternal-September is an open server, but to their credit, they haveIt sounds like you don't know what "Eternal September" meant before the
little tolerance for spam. Usenet has become a dinosaur and it's the
reason access is diminishing. Personally, I liked Google's web reader
until it became overwhelmed with spammers
NNTP server by that name started using it.
Hint: Today is September 11067, 1993.
you mean 𝗳𝗮𝗹𝘀𝗲_𝗳𝗹𝗮𝗴 9/11 2001?? Or the fake 𝗺𝗮𝗻𝗻𝗲𝗱_𝗺𝗼𝗼𝗻_𝗹𝗮𝗻𝗱𝗶𝗻𝗴?? What a
shame. Finally the 𝗰𝗮𝗽𝗶𝘁𝗮𝗹𝗶𝘀𝘁_"𝘄𝗲𝘀𝘁" is kaput. Countries are opening their
eyes to the 𝗳𝗮𝗸𝗲_𝗺𝗼𝗻𝗲𝘆, the 𝗰𝗼𝗹𝗹𝗲𝗰𝘁𝗶𝘃𝗲_𝘄𝗲𝘀𝘁 produces, to enslave the world,
making citizens go hungry in beds.
𝗙𝗿𝗮𝗻𝗰𝗲_𝗳𝗼𝗿𝗰𝗲𝗱_𝘁𝗼_𝗰𝗹𝗼𝘀𝗲_𝗲𝗺𝗯𝗮𝘀𝘀𝘆_𝗶𝗻_𝗳𝗼𝗿𝗺𝗲𝗿_𝗰𝗼𝗹𝗼𝗻𝘆_–_𝗥𝗲𝘂𝘁𝗲𝗿𝘀
“Constraints” imposed by Niger’s military government reportedly played a
role in the decision https://r%74.com/africa/589484-niger-france-embassy-closure/
Hurray! That calls for another celebration. Hahahahahahah
kudos to those who kick zio devils out of their sovereign countries
Another colonial empire bites the dust. Bravo Niger!
On 12/21/2023 7:23 PM, Marcelo Sarsberr wrote:
you mean 𝗳𝗮𝗹𝘀𝗲_𝗳𝗹𝗮𝗴 9/11 2001?? Or the fake 𝗺𝗮𝗻𝗻𝗲𝗱_𝗺𝗼𝗼𝗻_𝗹𝗮𝗻𝗱𝗶𝗻𝗴?? What
a shame. Finally the 𝗰𝗮𝗽𝗶𝘁𝗮𝗹𝗶𝘀𝘁_"𝘄𝗲𝘀𝘁" is kaput. Countries are opening
their eyes to the 𝗳𝗮𝗸𝗲_𝗺𝗼𝗻𝗲𝘆, the 𝗰𝗼𝗹𝗹𝗲𝗰𝘁𝗶𝘃𝗲_𝘄𝗲𝘀𝘁 produces, to enslave
the world, making citizens go hungry in beds.
𝗙𝗿𝗮𝗻𝗰𝗲_𝗳𝗼𝗿𝗰𝗲𝗱_𝘁𝗼_𝗰𝗹𝗼𝘀𝗲_𝗲𝗺𝗯𝗮𝘀𝘀𝘆_𝗶𝗻_𝗳𝗼𝗿𝗺𝗲𝗿_𝗰𝗼𝗹𝗼𝗻𝘆_–_𝗥𝗲𝘂𝘁𝗲𝗿𝘀
“Constraints” imposed by Niger’s military government reportedly played >> a role in the decision
https://r%74.com/africa/589484-niger-france-embassy-closure/
Hurray! That calls for another celebration. Hahahahahahah
kudos to those who kick zio devils out of their sovereign countries
Another colonial empire bites the dust. Bravo Niger!
I̶ s̶u̶p̶p̶o̶s̶e̶ V̶o̶l̶n̶e̶y̶ f̶i̶n̶d̶s̶ i̶t̶ a̶m̶u̶s̶i̶n̶g̶ t̶o̶ r̶e̶p̶l̶y̶ t̶o̶ y̶o̶u̶r̶ i̶n̶a̶n̶e̶ s̶t̶u̶p̶i̶d̶i̶t̶y̶.
fart raped whodat wrote:𝗼𝗻 𝗵𝗶𝗺𝘀𝗲𝗹𝗳 𝗮𝘀
On 12/21/2023 7:23 PM, Marcelo Sarsberr wrote:
you mean 𝗳𝗮𝗹𝘀𝗲_𝗳𝗹𝗮𝗴 9/11 2001?? Or the fake 𝗺𝗮𝗻𝗻𝗲𝗱_𝗺𝗼𝗼𝗻_𝗹𝗮𝗻𝗱𝗶𝗻𝗴?? What
a shame. Finally the 𝗰𝗮𝗽𝗶𝘁𝗮𝗹𝗶𝘀𝘁_"𝘄𝗲𝘀𝘁" is kaput. Countries are opening
their eyes to the 𝗳𝗮𝗸𝗲_𝗺𝗼𝗻𝗲𝘆, the 𝗰𝗼𝗹𝗹𝗲𝗰𝘁𝗶𝘃𝗲_𝘄𝗲𝘀𝘁 produces, to enslave
the world, making citizens go hungry in beds.
𝗙𝗿𝗮𝗻𝗰𝗲_𝗳𝗼𝗿𝗰𝗲𝗱_𝘁𝗼_𝗰𝗹𝗼𝘀𝗲_𝗲𝗺𝗯𝗮𝘀𝘀𝘆_𝗶𝗻_𝗳𝗼𝗿𝗺𝗲𝗿_𝗰𝗼𝗹𝗼𝗻𝘆_–_𝗥𝗲𝘂𝘁𝗲𝗿𝘀
“Constraints” imposed by Niger’s military government reportedly played
a role in the decision
https://r%74.com/africa/589484-niger-france-embassy-closure/
Hurray! That calls for another celebration. Hahahahahahah
kudos to those who kick zio devils out of their sovereign countries
Another colonial empire bites the dust. Bravo Niger!
I̶ s̶u̶p̶p̶o̶s̶e̶ V̶o̶l̶n̶e̶y̶ f̶i̶n̶d̶s̶ i̶t̶ a̶m̶u̶s̶i̶n̶g̶ t̶o̶ r̶e̶p̶l̶y̶ t̶o̶ y̶o̶u̶r̶ i̶n̶a̶n̶e̶ s̶t̶u̶p̶i̶d̶i̶t̶y̶.
relate to what is been said, you uneducated farting bag of shit. Most probably 𝗗𝗿._𝗠𝗮𝗿𝗰𝗲𝗹𝗼 owns a PhD in Physics and many other things.
"𝗕𝘆 𝗳𝗮𝗿𝘁𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗹𝗼𝘂𝗱𝗲𝗿 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗺𝗮𝗻 𝗶𝘀 𝘂𝘀𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗽𝗮𝘀𝘀𝗶𝘃𝗲 𝗮𝗴𝗴𝗿𝗲𝘀𝘀𝗶𝘃𝗲 𝘃𝗶𝗼𝗹𝗲𝗻𝗰𝗲 𝘁𝗼 𝗽𝗼𝘀𝗶𝘁
𝗱𝗼𝗺𝗶𝗻𝗮𝗻𝘁. 𝗧𝗵𝗶𝘀 𝗶𝗻𝘁𝗶𝗺𝗶𝗱𝗮𝘁𝗲𝘀 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝘄𝗼𝗺𝗮𝗻 𝘀𝘂𝗯𝗰𝗼𝗻𝘀𝗰𝗶𝗼𝘂𝘀𝗹𝘆 𝗻𝗼𝘁 𝘁𝗼 𝗿𝗲𝗹𝗲𝗮𝘀𝗲 𝗮𝘀 𝗺𝗰𝗵
𝗳𝗹𝗮𝘁𝘂𝗹𝗲𝗻𝗰𝗲, 𝗮𝗻𝗱 𝘁𝗵𝘂𝘀 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝘄𝗼𝗺𝗮𝗻, 𝗳𝗲𝗮𝗿𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗳𝗼𝗿 𝗵𝗲𝗿 𝘀𝗮𝗳𝗲𝘁𝘆, 𝗱𝗼𝗲𝘀𝗻’𝘁 𝗳𝗮𝗿𝘁 𝗮𝘀 𝗹𝗼𝗱, 𝗮𝘀 𝗮 𝘀𝗶𝗴𝗻
𝗼𝗳 𝘀𝘂𝗯𝗺𝗶𝘀𝘀𝗶𝘃𝗲𝗻𝗲𝘀𝘀. 𝗧𝗵𝗶𝘀 𝗶𝗻 𝘁𝘂𝗿𝗻 𝗰𝗼𝗻𝘁𝗿𝗶𝗯𝘂𝘁𝗲𝘀 𝘁𝗼 𝗿𝗮𝗽𝗲 𝗰𝘂𝗹𝘁𝘂𝗿𝗲 𝗮𝗻𝗱 𝘄𝗼𝗺𝗲𝗻 𝗯𝗲𝗻𝗴
𝗼𝗽𝗽𝗿𝗲𝘀𝘀𝗲𝗱.”
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