On Monday, December 25, 2023 at 3:56:24โฏPM UTC-8, Dono. wrote:
On Monday, December 25, 2023 at 2:01:59โฏPM UTC-8, Laurence Clark
Dumbfuck, Gravity affects massless particles, like the photons.Light has no mass.Then gravity wouldn't affect it,
By bending massless space twice as much as gravity affects everything
else.
On 12/26/2023 11:59 AM, Maciej Wozniak wrote:
On Tuesday 26 December 2023 at 16:48:43 UTC+1, Tom Roberts wrote:
Not true. We just know that Maciej Wozniak knows nothing about GPS,Spitting and ravings won't help, poor fanatic trash. the "improper"
GR, or clocks.
clocks of GPS will keep measuring t'=t, just like all serious clocks
always did.
And once again, you got it back asswards. t'โ t is the whole reason why
the master clock divisor on a GPS satellite is set to 9192631774.1 and
not 9192631770.
Then, you must be able to explain what the physical cause is of theNo clock runs fast. Each clock ticks at its normal rate oฬถfฬถ 1 sฬถeฬถcฬถoฬถnฬถdฬถ pฬถeฬถrฬถ
atomic clock moving fast.
sฬถeฬถcฬถoฬถnฬถdฬถ.
Den 10.01.2024 22:38, skrev Laurence Clark Crossen:
You cannot defeat my argument by insistently asserting that experiments
have proved an illogical theory that never made any unambiguous
predictions. You can only do so by demonstrating the logical character
of your theory, which you only assert. Countless excellent scientists
have shown it is totally illogical.
Experimental evidence trumps your opinion and belief.
GR is thoroughly cฬถoฬถnฬถfฬถiฬถrฬถmฬถeฬถdฬถ and nฬถeฬถvฬถeฬถrฬถ fฬถaฬถlฬถsฬถiฬถfฬถiฬถeฬถdฬถ.
On 1/11/2024 7:11 AM, Lou wrote: Really?eW91ciBPUklHSU5BTCBjbGFpbSwgR00vKHItcicpIGlzIHdyb25nISBQYXVsIGNhdWdodCB5b3UsIGFuZCBpbg==
5.2716726e-10 is not the correct answer? It looks exactly the same as
the prediction from GR. Are ๐๐ผ๐ ๐ณ๐ถ๐ป๐ฎ๐น๐น๐ ๐ฎ๐ฑ๐บ๐ถ๐๐๐ถ๐ป๐ด ๐๐ฅ ๐ถ๐ ๐๐ฟ๐ผ๐ป๐ด?
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Again,
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I am laughing at your ORIGINAL mistake!U2xvcHB5LCBzbG9wcHksIHNsb3BweQ==!!
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frequencies of the cesium or rubidium atomic frequency standards first
needed to be brought down using high-speed ECL prescalers to something
below, say, 100 MHz. So let us assume a 128x prescaler. The input
frequency from a CAFS would therefore be 71.817435703125 MHz, while the
input frequency from a RAFS would be 53.3959578976875 MHz.
I'm not sure what the high speed prescaler logic would be but ECL sounds correct, being of that time period.
On 1/12/2024 4:37 PM, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:
I thought GR was measuring the gravitational effects.
GR is mass warping spacetime. In GR gravity is not a force, it is the
effect of objects following geodesics in warped spacetime which look
curved so look like a force to us.
Everybody in this thread is over-thinking this and getting bogged down
in irrelevancies. In particular, tฬถhฬถeฬถ mฬถeฬถaฬถnฬถiฬถnฬถgฬถ oฬถfฬถ "tฬถiฬถmฬถeฬถ" iฬถsฬถ nฬถoฬถtฬถ iฬถmฬถpฬถoฬถrฬถtฬถaฬถnฬถtฬถ
-- eฬถvฬถeฬถrฬถyฬถtฬถhฬถiฬถnฬถgฬถ cฬถaฬถnฬถ bฬถeฬถ, aฬถnฬถdฬถ sฬถhฬถoฬถuฬถlฬถdฬถ bฬถeฬถ, eฬถxฬถpฬถrฬถeฬถsฬถsฬถeฬถdฬถ iฬถnฬถ tฬถeฬถrฬถmฬถsฬถ oฬถfฬถ cฬถlฬถoฬถcฬถkฬถ
rฬถeฬถaฬถdฬถiฬถnฬถgฬถsฬถ, bฬถeฬถcฬถaฬถuฬถsฬถeฬถ tฬถhฬถeฬถyฬถ aฬถrฬถeฬถ wฬถhฬถaฬถtฬถ iฬถsฬถ mฬถeฬถaฬถsฬถuฬถrฬถeฬถdฬถ.
On 1/20/24 11:50 PM, Prokaryotic Capase Homolog wrote:
The second does not change with altitude of a clock above or below the
geoid.
Yes.
So by the same token there should be no problem with a caesium clock
beating out 9192631770 beats per second on earth. And 9192631774.1 up
there in space.
Except 9192631774.1 cycles isn't a second. It's a tiny bit longer.
And that Cs clocks run at different speeds at different altitudes due
to gravitational effects.
Again, no I did not. All Cs clocks tick at 9192631770 periods per
second. By dฬถeฬถfฬถiฬถnฬถiฬถtฬถiฬถoฬถnฬถ.
On 1/21/2024 11:18 PM, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:
"No, I haven't forgot that the clock in a GPS SV
is not a normal clock. It ticks out only 0.99999999946085 seconds per
seconds. It runs too slow to be a normal clock."
No, it is set at a lower frequency to run exactly the same in orbit as
a clock on Earth.
Well, yeah, that's the gravitational blueshift of the transmitted
signal. A blueshift increases the received frequency. They design the
system so that the lower frequencies used on the satellite are EXACTLY compensated by the blueshift.
On 1/23/24 10:17 PM, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:
So the clocks are modified by means of an oscillator that makes them
run the same rate in space as on Earth BY DEFINITION.
No! You need to LEARN HOW TO READ.
The nonstandard clock in a GPS satellite runs at a slower rate than a
clock on the geoid. This is done so SIGNALS from the satellite arrive on
the geoid with the correct frequency. Tom Roberts
On 1/24/24 12:51 AM, Maciej Wozniak wrote:
On Wednesday 24 January 2024 at 05:49:02 UTC+1, Tom Roberts wrote:
The nonstandard clock in a GPS satellite runs at a slower rate than a
clock on the geoid.
9 192 631 774 is slower rate than 9 192 631 770, poor halfbrain?
Yes, of course. The Cs-133 oscillator inherently oscillates at 9,192,631,770Hz. So since the nonstandard clock in the GPS satellite
waits until 9,192,631,774 oscillations have passed between its 1-second ticks, it does indeed tick more slowly than a standard clock.
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