• Re: Einstein synchronisation

    From =?iso-8859-2?b?UvN6c2EgRXJk9XMgS+Fs@21:1/5 to Paul B. Andersen on Mon Feb 26 21:16:20 2024
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity, sci.physics

    Paul B. Andersen wrote:

    We have two equal clocks C_A and C_B. They are not synced in any way,
    but they are using the same time unit, let's call it second.
    The clocks run at the same rate.

    nonsense, "equal" clocks are always synced with offsets. Read this, to undrestand even more.

    ๐—ช๐—ฎ๐—ฟ_๐—ฃ๐—ถ๐—ด_๐—ฉ๐—ถ๐—ฐ๐˜๐—ผ๐—ฟ๐—ถ๐—ฎ_๐—ก๐˜‚๐—น๐—ฎ๐—ป๐—ฑ_๐—›๐—ฎ๐˜€_๐—”๐—ป๐—ผ๐˜๐—ต๐—ฒ๐—ฟ_๐—ฆ๐˜‚๐—ฟ๐—ฝ๐—ฟ๐—ถ๐˜€๐—ฒ_๐—ณ๐—ผ๐—ฟ_๐—ฃ๐˜‚๐˜๐—ถ๐—ป
    https://b%69%74%63%68ute.com/video/FWoCOARqFLEB

    ๐—ก๐—ผ๐˜_๐—ฎ_๐—ฝ๐—ฒ๐—ป๐—ป๐˜†_๐—บ๐—ผ๐—ฟ๐—ฒ_๐—ณ๐—ผ๐—ฟ_๐—จ๐—ธ๐—ฟ๐—ฎ๐—ถ๐—ป๐—ฒ.
    https://b%69%74%63%68ute.com/video/iloqV2zu306Z

    ๐—ง๐˜‚๐—ฐ๐—ธ๐—ฒ๐—ฟ_๐—–๐—ฎ๐—ฟ๐—น๐˜€๐—ผ๐—ป_๐—๐˜‚๐˜€๐˜_๐—˜๐—ซ๐—ฃ๐—ข๐—ฆ๐—˜๐——_๐—ฆ๐—ผ๐—บ๐—ฒ๐˜๐—ต๐—ถ๐—ป๐—ด_๐—œ๐—ป๐—ฐ๐—ฟ๐—ฒ๐—ฑ๐—ถ๐—ฏ๐—น๐˜†_๐—ง๐—ฒ๐—ฟ๐—ฟ๐—ถ๐—ณ๐˜†๐—ถ๐—ป๐—ด_๐—œ๐—ป๐˜€๐—ถ๐—ฑ๐—ฒ_๐—ง๐—ต๐—
    ฒ_๐—จ๐—ป๐—ถ๐˜๐—ฒ๐—ฑ_๐—ฆ๐˜๐—ฎ๐˜๐—ฒ๐˜€ https://b%69%74%63%68ute.com/video/OZaUGR8ROnyA

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  • From trolidous@21:1/5 to All on Mon Feb 26 17:39:58 2024
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity, sci.physics

    On 2/26/24 13:16, Rรณzsa Erdล‘s Kรกlmรกn wrote:
    Paul B. Andersen wrote:

    We have two equal clocks C_A and C_B. They are not synced in any way,
    but they are using the same time unit, let's call it second.
    The clocks run at the same rate.

    nonsense, "equal" clocks are always synced with offsets. Read this, to undrestand even more.

    ๐—ช๐—ฎ๐—ฟ_๐—ฃ๐—ถ๐—ด_๐—ฉ๐—ถ๐—ฐ๐˜๐—ผ๐—ฟ๐—ถ๐—ฎ_๐—ก๐˜‚๐—น๐—ฎ๐—ป๐—ฑ_๐—›๐—ฎ๐˜€_๐—”๐—ป๐—ผ๐˜๐—ต๐—ฒ๐—ฟ_๐—ฆ๐˜‚๐—ฟ๐—ฝ๐—ฟ๐—ถ๐˜€๐—ฒ_๐—ณ๐—ผ๐—ฟ_๐—ฃ๐˜‚๐˜๐—ถ๐—ป
    https://b%69%74%63%68ute.com/video/FWoCOARqFLEB

    ๐—ก๐—ผ๐˜_๐—ฎ_๐—ฝ๐—ฒ๐—ป๐—ป๐˜†_๐—บ๐—ผ๐—ฟ๐—ฒ_๐—ณ๐—ผ๐—ฟ_๐—จ๐—ธ๐—ฟ๐—ฎ๐—ถ๐—ป๐—ฒ.
    https://b%69%74%63%68ute.com/video/iloqV2zu306Z


    ๐—ง๐˜‚๐—ฐ๐—ธ๐—ฒ๐—ฟ_๐—–๐—ฎ๐—ฟ๐—น๐˜€๐—ผ๐—ป_๐—๐˜‚๐˜€๐˜_๐—˜๐—ซ๐—ฃ๐—ข๐—ฆ๐—˜๐——_๐—ฆ๐—ผ๐—บ๐—ฒ๐˜๐—ต๐—ถ๐—ป๐—ด_๐—œ๐—ป๐—ฐ๐—ฟ๐—ฒ๐—ฑ๐—ถ๐—ฏ๐—น๐˜†_๐—ง๐—ฒ๐—ฟ๐—ฟ๐—ถ๐—ณ๐˜†๐—ถ๐—ป๐—ด_๐—œ๐—ป๐˜€๐—ถ๐—ฑ๐—ฒ_๐—ง๐—ต๐—
    ฒ_๐—จ๐—ป๐—ถ๐˜๐—ฒ๐—ฑ_๐—ฆ๐˜๐—ฎ๐˜๐—ฒ๐˜€
    https://b%69%74%63%68ute.com/video/OZaUGR8ROnyA


    Volodymyr Zelenskyy is clearly the president of the combined
    Soviet Union of Ukraine, Belarus, and Russia.

    Vladimir Putin is clearly engaging in armed insurrection against
    the Soviet Union, by not accepting commands from his commander-in-chief, Volodymyr Zelenskyy.

    If a compromise is wanted than the President of the Soviet Union is
    clearly Alexander Lukashenko.

    Who can clearly know, who can understand? I am thinking that Boris
    Yeltsin did clearly secede Russia from the Soviet Union. At least
    I guess, that was a little while back. Vladimir Lenin did put in
    his Constitution Article 4 - something like 'Soviet Socialist
    Republics can secede from the Soviet Union'. Was it outrageous
    to think that someone might have obeyed his Constitution at
    some point in time?

    Who can clearly know, who can understand? Then there are those
    exchanges here between some 'Radical Republican' 'starmaker'
    and this other guy. Is it better or worse than that 'forgive
    me I'm sick I cry' guy maybe from Birmingham, England rather
    than Birmingham, Alabama? Who can clearly know, who can understand?

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  • From The Starmaker@21:1/5 to The Starmaker on Mon Feb 26 22:01:37 2024
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity, sci.physics

    The Starmaker wrote:

    Richard Hachel wrote:

    https://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/specrel/specrel.pdf

    The problem with Einstein's synchronization is that it is defined in a Galilean way.
    Einstein presupposes in his frame of reference, a flat and absolute
    present time, and therefore goes very quickly to definition, to move on to the next paragraph.
    What is he really saying new? Nothing.
    The great thing is to say:
    tA'-tA=2AB/c
    I can also add, in the same sense, that a swallow is a swallow.
    Then Einstein will commit the enormous relativistic error of immediately and without paying attention to t(AB)=t(BA), a proposition which can only be true for a neutral observer placed at an equal distance from A and B, and having to take into account only identical anisochrony, and perfect simultaneity of the two watches.
    The equality that he posits is therefore completely false, intellectually false, physically false, for the enormous majority of points in his space that he will take as reference.

    His synchronization method, but he does not say it, is ONLY valid for a given point P, and the simultaneity of various events occurring in the frame of reference is ONLY valid for this point and not the integrity of the frame of reference.

    He doesn't explain this.

    Or worse, he doesn't know it.

    R.H.

    Nature forgot to synchronize.

    Nature does not display any...clocks.


    The shorest distance between two points is a straight line.

    But Nature does not display any straight lines.


    Otherwise, ...ants would travel in staight lines...but they don't.


    Only Platonists see straight lines.

    (just another cult)





    --
    The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
    to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
    and challenge the unchallengeable.

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  • From Vernon =?iso-8859-1?q?Rom=E3o_Sim=F@21:1/5 to Paul B. Andersen on Tue Feb 27 21:45:03 2024
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity, sci.physics

    Paul B. Andersen wrote:

    Den 27.02.2024 01:46, skrev Python:
    Not "in France", this is not the point, the point is that Nemo NNTP
    server did not relay the post. This is unrelated to Google Groups
    shutdown as Paul in not posting through this gateway,
    Instead of complaining here, which is pointless, you'd better advise
    Nemo's administrator.

    Please post these links so Richard Hackel can read them.
    Free NNTP servers:
    https://www.eternal-september.org https://www.i2pn2.org/

    you are beautiful. I love Russia as never before. I am just angry, I think
    the Putina is a traitor, sending the nazis on paid vacation to Turkey,
    which is clearly treason.

    ๐—ช๐—”๐—ง๐—–๐—›_๐—จ๐—ธ๐—ฟ๐—ฎ๐—ถ๐—ป๐—ฒโ€™๐˜€_๐˜€๐—ฐ๐—ฎ๐—ฟ๐—ฐ๐—ฒ_๐—ช๐—ฒ๐˜€๐˜๐—ฒ๐—ฟ๐—ป-๐˜€๐˜‚๐—ฝ๐—ฝ๐—น๐—ถ๐—ฒ๐—ฑ_๐—ต๐—ฎ๐—ฟ๐—ฑ๐˜„๐—ฎ๐—ฟ๐—ฒ_๐—ฑ๐—ฒ๐˜€๐˜๐—ฟ๐—ผ๐˜†๐—ฒ๐—ฑ_(๐—ฉ๐—œ๐——๐—˜๐—ข๐—ฆ)
    Online footage shows the destruction of multiple military vehicles Kiev received from its foreign backers https://r%74.com/russia/593271-ukrainian-western-equipment-destroyed/

    Just to explain to Russians, my government locked me down forced my wife
    and children to get jabbed or lose their jobs. They jabbed my brother and
    my parents who are all dead now. Trushitdeau supports genocide in Gaza, supports Ukraine who are Nazis and have been trampling Russian speakers
    rights and lives since the CIA staged the Maiden coup. So yes I cheer
    Russia and Russians. I don't recognize Canada or the west anymore. They
    have betrayed everything I was raised to believe and what they used to at
    least pay lip service to. I spit on Trudeau and everything in the west. It
    is the empire of lies. Russia Russia Russia Long Live Russia!

    What a wonderful exhibition those now useless pieces would make.
    It could be named "The West's taxpayer's Billion Dollar Retirement Fund".
    Or "Up in smoke"! ๐Ÿ™„

    Make sure - Pentagon, military complex money are not intended on
    production the best weapons of war - primely it is money laundering
    operation for a few benefactors. Weapons are prototypes, laboratory state
    of the art for pre-arranged, polygon usage and propaganda, public
    influencing.

    RT News make me happy every day.

    Wonderful, meaning full of wonder. I wish all the very same fine fate for
    that entire "rare" Zionist Colonialist Empire, AKA US Led Rules-based International Order! Amen to that! Down with Fascism and "liberal"
    capitalism.

    ๐— ๐—ฎ๐—ฐ๐—ฟ๐—ผ๐—ป_๐—ถ๐˜€_๐—ณ๐—ฟ๐—ฒ๐—ฎ๐—ธ๐—ถ๐—ป๐—ด_๐—ผ๐˜‚๐˜_๐—ผ๐˜ƒ๐—ฒ๐—ฟ_๐—จ๐—ธ๐—ฟ๐—ฎ๐—ถ๐—ป๐—ฒ_๐—ฐ๐—ผ๐—น๐—น๐—ฎ๐—ฝ๐˜€๐—ฒ
    https://youtu.be/EtkS5bRC8_I

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  • From Cecilio San Kwang@21:1/5 to Volney on Tue Feb 27 22:27:33 2024
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity, sci.physics

    Volney wrote:

    On 2/27/2024 5:47 AM, Richard Hachel wrote:
    I repeat, the solution proposed by Einstein is biased in the sense that
    we will never be able to match two watches together, it is IMPOSSIBLE,
    it is abstract, it is ridiculous in SR well understood.

    Einstein defines what it means for two clocks to be synchronized.

    my friendo, a "๐—ฑ๐—ฒ๐—ณ๐—ถ๐—ป๐—ฒ" is nothing. A "๐—ฐ๐—ผ๐—ป๐˜€๐—ฒ๐—ป๐˜" is everything. Try again. You
    can't. Because the Einstine is wrong. The Einstine is just ๐—ฎ_๐—ณ๐—ถ๐—ด๐˜‚๐—ฟ๐—ฒ. Not a
    scientist.

    https://th%65%70%65%6f%70%6c%65%73%76oice.tv/

    ๐—ช๐—˜๐—™_๐—œ๐—ป๐˜€๐—ถ๐—ฑ๐—ฒ๐—ฟ:_๐—œ๐—บ๐—บ๐—ถ๐—ป๐—ฒ๐—ป๐˜_โ€˜๐—™๐—ฎ๐—น๐˜€๐—ฒ_๐—™๐—น๐—ฎ๐—ดโ€™_๐—–๐˜†๐—ฏ๐—ฒ๐—ฟ_๐—”๐˜๐˜๐—ฎ๐—ฐ๐—ธ_๐—ช๐—ถ๐—น๐—น_๐——๐—ถ๐˜€๐—ฟ๐˜‚๐—ฝ๐˜_2024_๐—˜๐—น๐—ฒ๐—ฐ๐˜๐—ถ๐—ผ๐—ป
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    February 27, 2024 Niamh Harris 0
    British officials are now saying that biological males who identify as
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