• Re: [SR] Usefulness of real velocities in accelerated relativistic fram

    From Bosephis Provenza Sciacca@21:1/5 to Richard Hachel on Thu Mar 14 16:56:52 2024
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity, sci.physics

    Richard Hachel wrote:

    Le 14/03/2024 à 15:02, "Paul B. Andersen" a écrit :
    Your opinion of SR is irrelevant.
    SR is a consistent theory, and the issue is: "Does SR predict that
    accelerated objects will behave as you claim they do?"

    No, YOU are saying that my concepts are irrelevant.
    As for accelerated frames of reference, I said that things are poorly explained by physicists and that certain equations are false.
    Some are correct, like To=(x/c).sqrt(1+2c²/ax) Or x=(c²/a)[sqrt(1+a²To²/c²)-1] But many others are incorrect.

    I beg you to reconsider

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  • From Guzman Velazquez@21:1/5 to Richard Hachel on Thu Mar 14 17:06:05 2024
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity, sci.physics

    Richard Hachel wrote:

    Le 14/03/2024 à 15:02, "Paul B. Andersen" a écrit :
    https://paulba.no/paper/index.html But the issue is:
    Does SR predict what you claim it predicts?

    Here is the problem: We now know that Newtonian physics is out of the running, and that we must use a relativistic theory.

    are we sure??

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  • From Justo =?iso-8859-2?q?=A6lusarczyk?=@21:1/5 to Richard Hachel on Thu Mar 14 17:16:40 2024
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity, sci.physics

    Richard Hachel wrote:

    Le 13/03/2024 à 21:59, "Paul B. Andersen" a écrit :
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    Don't worry about my reactions.
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  • From Alcazar babita@21:1/5 to Richard Hachel on Thu Mar 14 17:35:27 2024
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity, sci.physics

    Richard Hachel wrote:

    Le 14/03/2024 à 15:02, "Paul B. Andersen" a écrit :
    So for any t > 0 Vm > Vr/2
    It is not possible to make SR predict anything else!
    ====================================================

    You don't understand anything I'm telling you...
    In these conditions, it is very difficult to discuss.

    no, that's you. There are mainly 2 ways of observation in fluid dynamics (eulerian). You either move with the particle, or you observe it fixed from outside. Russia is a threat to them, not to us.

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  • From Cresencio Papadelias@21:1/5 to Richard Hachel on Sat Mar 16 17:40:51 2024
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity, sci.physics

    Richard Hachel wrote:

    Le 16/03/2024 à 14:18, "Paul B. Andersen" a écrit :
    So Richard Hachel's theory is identical to Newtonian Mechanics.

    Absolutely not. Your comments are criminal.

    yes, for instance the Northstream 2 and 2 energy pipelines, blown up under
    the sea. But you are not less criminal. Your entire fucking government is criminal, with proofs.

    When I write To=(x/c).sqrt(1+c²/ax) it is not SR.

    you have to make sure you undrestand the symbols first. You complain you
    don't know what time is. And the wife of Macron is a man. An older man,
    hence the Macrone must be the female part, taking dicks in his ass for pleasure.

    Micron's Wife Answers the Allegations https://b%69%74%63%68ute.com/video/cmKDn21Xfwie

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  • From Dutch =?iso-8859-1?b?U+Fya/Z6aQ==?=@21:1/5 to Paul B. Andersen on Sat Mar 16 19:18:16 2024
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity, sci.physics

    Paul B. Andersen wrote:

    So there is no problem: Vr = a.Tr where a is the proper acceleration of
    the rocket and Vr is the speed of the rocket in the inertial frame.

    not sure. But you have to read this paper, page 20:20, You guys from
    amrica don't know how a nazi looks like, and 𝘄𝗵𝗮𝘁_𝗮_𝗻𝗮𝘇𝗶_𝗶𝘀. Amazing paper,
    almost better than Parenti.

    𝗦𝗖𝗢𝗧𝗧_𝗥𝗜𝗧𝗧𝗘𝗥_-_𝗥𝗨𝗦𝗦𝗜𝗔𝗡_𝗗𝗘𝗠𝗢𝗖𝗥𝗔𝗖𝗬_𝗜𝗡_𝗪𝗔𝗥_𝗠𝗢𝗗𝗘_(𝗧𝗥𝗔𝗡𝗦𝗟𝗔𝗧𝗘𝗗_𝗚𝗲𝗿𝗺𝗮𝗻_-_𝗘𝗻𝗴𝗹𝗶𝘀𝗵)
    https://bitchute.com/video/47dKxmM4UP5t

    the bitch, in her favour, is naming Einstine, as he was not a nazi, lol.

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  • From Patricia Fukuyama@21:1/5 to Richard Hachel on Tue Mar 19 12:45:07 2024
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity, sci.physics

    Richard Hachel wrote:

    Le 18/03/2024 à 22:12, "Paul B. Andersen" a écrit :
    The proper time of the rocket when it passes Tau Ceti is:
    τ = (c/a)⋅arsinh(a⋅t) = 3.13894 y

    Here is the error. Physicists use the Minkowskian metric and it is not correct. You have to use (I understand that this is confusing) the
    Newtonian equation. Physicists absolutely need to understand something:
    the rocket is AT REST in its frame of reference, and it is from start to finish.

    you guys don't even know what a nazi is. A nazi is 𝗮_𝗸𝗵𝗮𝘇𝗮𝗿_𝗴𝗼𝘆 thinking he
    is arian lol.

    𝗔𝘇𝗼𝘃_𝗡𝗮𝘇𝗶𝘀_𝗺𝗮𝗸𝗲_𝘃𝗶𝗱𝗲𝗼_𝗶𝗻𝘃𝗶𝘁𝗶𝗻𝗴_𝗙𝗿𝗲𝗻𝗰𝗵_𝗙𝗼𝗿𝗲𝗶𝗴𝗻_𝗟𝗲𝗴𝗶𝗼𝗻_𝘁𝗼_𝗵𝗲𝗹𝗽_𝗮𝗴𝗮𝗶𝗻𝘀𝘁_𝗥𝘂𝘀
    𝘀𝗶𝗮_𝗶𝗻_𝗨𝗸𝗿𝗮𝗶𝗻𝗲 https://b%69%74%63%68%75te.com/video/k6vuaKzLIQ8V

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  • From Otis =?iso-8859-1?b?Rvxs9nA=?=@21:1/5 to Volney on Wed Mar 20 20:23:13 2024
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity, sci.physics

    Volney wrote:

    n 3/16/2024 10:29 AM, Richard Hachel wrote:
    Le 16/03/2024 à 14:18, "Paul B. Andersen" a écrit :
    But why is "[SR]" in the subject line when you only are talking about
    Newtonian Mechanics?

    Vous plaisantez, monsieur. C'est indigne de vous.
    Je vous supplie de revenir à plus d'intelligence.

    Why are you telling Paul that his father smelt of elderberries?

    your sincerity my friend.But they had 𝗺𝗲𝗲𝘁𝗶𝗻𝗴𝘀_𝗮𝗳𝘁𝗲𝗿_𝗺𝗲𝗲𝘁𝗶𝗻𝗴𝘀_𝗶𝗻_𝗘𝗨, about
    balkanizing Russia, stealing their resources etc. With the motherfucker 𝗡𝗮𝘃𝗮𝗹𝗻𝘆_𝗮𝗻𝗱_𝗬𝘂𝗹𝗹𝗮𝗻𝗱𝗮 in place, to take over and everything. My butt, almost
    incredible. Here the proof, because proofs are essential in Physics. The fucking EU are corrupt like shit, obvious.

    (18:00) thank you my friend 𝗙𝗿𝗲𝗻𝗰𝗵_𝗺𝗲𝗱𝗶𝗮_𝘄𝗮𝗿𝗴𝗮𝗺𝗶𝗻𝗴_20𝗞_𝘁𝗿𝗼𝗼𝗽𝘀.
    𝗥𝘂𝘀𝘀𝗶𝗮_𝗜𝗻𝘁𝗲𝗹,_2𝗞_𝗙𝗿𝗲𝗻𝗰𝗵_𝘁𝗿𝗼𝗼𝗽𝘀_𝗨𝗸𝗿𝗮𝗶𝗻𝗲.
    𝗘𝗨_𝗽𝗮𝗻𝗶𝗰,_𝗸𝗲𝗲𝗽_𝘄𝗮𝗿_𝗴𝗼𝗶𝗻𝗴
    https://youtu.be/07yaxhmvFJA

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  • From Ronny Pantelakos@21:1/5 to Volney on Wed Mar 20 20:38:17 2024
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity, sci.physics

    Volney wrote:

    On 3/16/2024 10:29 AM, Richard Hachel wrote:
    Le 16/03/2024 à 14:18, "Paul B. Andersen" a écrit :
    But why is "[SR]" in the subject line when you only are talking about
    Newtonian Mechanics?

    Vous plaisantez, monsieur. C'est indigne de vous.
    Je vous supplie de revenir à plus d'intelligence.

    Why are you telling Paul that his father smelt of elderberries?

    they had 2,3 days events and conferences in EU to kill Russia. What is it
    you don't undrestand?? Come on, you have to undrestand. Probably not even
    the gay actor 𝘀𝗺𝗲𝗹𝗹𝗲𝗻𝘀𝗸𝘆 knew about this plan, speaking the witch.

    (from 18:00) 𝗙𝗿𝗲𝗻𝗰𝗵_𝗺𝗲𝗱𝗶𝗮_𝘄𝗮𝗿𝗴𝗮𝗺𝗶𝗻𝗴_20𝗞_𝘁𝗿𝗼𝗼𝗽𝘀. 𝗥𝘂𝘀𝘀𝗶𝗮_𝗜𝗻𝘁𝗲𝗹,_2𝗞_𝗙𝗿𝗲𝗻𝗰𝗵_𝘁𝗿𝗼𝗼𝗽𝘀_𝗨𝗸𝗿𝗮𝗶𝗻𝗲.
    𝗘𝗨_𝗽𝗮𝗻𝗶𝗰,_𝗸𝗲𝗲𝗽_𝘄𝗮𝗿_𝗴𝗼𝗶𝗻𝗴
    https://youtu.be/07yaxhmvFJA

    so fucking sad with these despicable satanists.

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