• Re: Waste of EU money / bread and butter of statistics (Re: Deep Ecolog

    From Mild Shock@21:1/5 to Mild Shock on Wed Nov 6 10:22:12 2024
    Hi,

    My experience with change_arg/3 so far,
    one that is akin to nb_linkarg/3 from SWI-Prolog
    is as follows:

    - The lack of purity in that there is one
    more side effect, is compensated in that we
    don't need a FFI and dozen foreign function
    implemented gadgets, like this gadget,
    termed "dedicated low-level implementation".

    In SWI-Prolog, this can rely on an efficient specialised
    implementation of aggregate_all(count,_,_), while we provide
    a dedicated low-level XSB implementation in a count module
    that we include with our program, courtesy of David S.
    Warren (personal communication).

    - Instead of million different gadgets, there
    is only one gadget, which is change_arg/3 itself.
    One can integrate it with the Prolog garbage collection.
    I could demonstrated the same that change_arg/3
    can fully participate in minor and major garbage collections
    of the Prolog system using a write barrier.

    - Having only this gadget, one can implement nb_XXX
    datastructures such as findall/3 bag. The big advantage
    since it will rely on Prolog garbage collection, is
    that no slow setup_call_cleanup/3 is needed. You can
    complemently forget about an infrastructure for this
    monster, its all superseeded by garbage collection,
    you also don't need to call some free()

    - You can spin it further and implement more nb_XXX
    datastructures profiting from the same advantages
    again, this is ongoing work right now. Example
    datastrutures are library(util/hash) and the
    brand new library(util/tree).

    - You can spin it even further to the ultimate goal.
    You can then use these nb_XXX datastructures to
    have memory savy aggregates. And thats one of the
    plateaus we want to reach. We want to compete
    with Pandas from Python and participate in Billion
    Row Challenges.

    Bye

    Mild Shock schrieb:
    Hi,

    Spain is one of the main recipients of EU recovery funds,
    with a total of 163 billion euros ($178 billion) earmarked
    for the country, approximately half in grants and the rest
    in loans. It has already received 37 billion euros.

    Madrid and software.imdea.org is no exception. Probably
    the same disaster as the Valencia floods. The money
    is just siphoned into some crooks pockets. The biggest
    crooks are at the moment ALP & friends,

    just publishing a series of failure reports. Every
    paper just reports some problems, never solutions.
    Most recent cringe example:

    BoostRLR: The beauty of Prolog for statistical
    relational learning https://www.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de/fileadmin/10030600/2024/KI_2004_paper_174.pdf


    What the fuck does this mean:

    In SWI-Prolog, this can rely on an efficient specialised
    implementation of aggregate_all(count,_,_), while we provide
    a dedicated low-level XSB implementation in a count module
    that we include with our program, courtesy of David S.
    Warren (personal communication).

    Why is change_arg/3 not common among Prolog systems.
    Why do we deal with aggregates like we are still in
    stone age. Aggregates are a well known discipline
    of database technology.

    Why only aggregate_all/2 and not also a memory savy
    solutions of aggregate/3. Aggregates are the bread
    and butter of statistics.

    Bye

    Mild Shock schrieb:
    Just reading:

    "Deep ecologists reject any mechanical
    or computer model of nature, and see
    the Earth as a living organism, which
    should be treated and understood accordingly"
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_ecology#Sources

    Now that we enter the age of AI. What
    about an AI Computer model. An AI Earth
    Computer model? Any pointers?



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