• Distributed Garbage Collection (Was: I don't buy the ONE INTERNET idea

    From Mild Shock@21:1/5 to Mild Shock on Sat Dec 21 01:57:30 2024
    Hi,

    Once a while the Alexandrian library burns
    down to ground. Something similar happens
    in the world wide web, in a more

    organic form which has similarty with
    distributed garbage collection, but has
    an economic twist. Since hosting still

    costs money, the garbage collection sweeps
    away stuff that isn't valuable. Every
    product has a life cycle. If a product

    has reached and of life phase, its unlikely
    that much information about a product will
    survive in a living manner. Only accidental

    fossils will survive. For example recently
    the Z80 was discontinued:

    n April 15, 2024, Zilog announced the
    discontinuation of the Z80 processor, with
    orders being accepted until June 14, 2024. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zilog_Z80#Discontinuation

    Bye

    Mild Shock schrieb:
    You are just an idiot fanatic, that
    doesn't show any evidence, i.e. name
    a server that would keep your nonsense

    for 50 years. This is possibly because

    you are completely brainwashed like
    many fanatic people on this planet,
    who don't understand that a wise man

    has to accept that nothing is constant.

    Even the new oppenheimer makes the same
    fallacy here, when he halucinates that
    there is only one internet:

    Ilya Sutskever: "Sequence to sequence https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yvBqasHLZs

    You are just a complete nuthead. And Ilya
    Sutskever is not the new oppenheimer,
    he is porobably a complete moron.

    Ross Finlayson schrieb:
    On 12/19/2024 11:49 PM, Mild Shock wrote:
    So on eternal-september this post on
    comp.lang.prolog is missing:

    Subject: Re: Cut opaqueness in ISO prolog
    From: Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name>
    Injection-Date: Sun, 05 Nov 2023 20:21:36 +0000

    Its present on solani.org though.
    Concerning sci.math the news providers
    eternal-september and solani.org argee.

    They have currently this many messages:

    sci.math: 492

    Thats all they have stored.

    Mild Shock schrieb:

    You can check out your newserver here:

    https://www.newsgroupreviews.com/

    For example it says for http://www.eternal-september.org/

    Retention is currently 2 years for de.*,
    160 days for the Big 8, 130 days for alt.*
    and 90 days for other hierarchies.

    So Big 8 is only 160 days.

    Ross Finlayson schrieb:
    On 12/19/2024 06:16 PM, Mild Shock wrote:
    Nope, it lands nowhere and gets deleted after
    a while. This is called the retention time.

    Different servers will have different
    retention times for the same newsgroup;
    some may keep posts for as little as one
    or two weeks, others may hold them for many years.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usenet_newsgroup#Types

    Do you find any of your posts from 12
    years ago on an ordinary news server?

    Ross Finlayson schrieb:

    Yeah, every USENET post sort of lands right in
    the Library of Congress, don't you know.


    Sure, some modern services have 20+ years text retention,
    if you were following news.admin when Google Groups
    cut itself loose from usenet after turning into a
    vandalistic spam-hive that it could obviously mitigate,
    about "Archive All Text Usenet", some fellow furthermore
    posted a feed of like all of text usenet and like
    including the DejaNews CD's contents and these, yeah.

    It's not even like 4 terabytes.  Less than a 1000 movies, say.

    What are you a clown?  I'm not buying your spam.





    That's merely "site policy", don't you know that
    in the peerage or compeerage or leechage of usenet
    peers, that, any one sets their own site policy?

    Various commercial peers for example tout their
    decades, at least, of retention, and various
    archives have been around since "the DejaNews CDs",
    and various current feeds exist of "all text usenet".

    Furthermore that "eternal-september" is considered
    just a charlatan's ruse of a sort since other "free
    humanitarian interest" usenet peers are hard to find.
    It's just some spooks.

    Try reading the RFC's and charters about USENET,
    maybe you'll learn a little bit more that it's
    been around since before the World Wide Web.

    Yeah I'm thinking about connecting text usenet
    to these new "Mastodon" or "Bluesky" feeds,
    should be pretty simple.

    I suggest you quit your insolent cretinry.




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