• Re: Complex roots

    From Python@21:1/5 to All on Thu Mar 20 17:10:12 2025
    Le 20/03/2025 à 17:45, Richard Hachel a écrit :
    The goal is to completely do without Argand geometry (which is strictly useless
    in Cartesian planes). Here, we have a curve f(x), which gives us a real root x=1,
    since f(x)=(x-1)²(x²+4), but also two complex roots, which are no longer systematically x'=2i and x"=-2i.

    This is very strange and worthy of interest.

    Thus, f'(x)=x²+4 does not have the same complex roots as f(x)=(x-1)²(x²+4).

    This clearly confuses all mathematicians, and even makes them laugh.

    And yet it's true.

    Just as real roots are unalterable (I can multiply by as many roots as I want, I
    would always have my first roots continued in the equation), this is no longer
    true for complex roots. This is very strange.

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    x'=2i

    Yes, but...

    x"=-0.38829i and not x"=-2i

    R.H.

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  • From Richard Hachel@21:1/5 to All on Thu Mar 20 16:45:35 2025
    The goal is to completely do without Argand geometry (which is strictly
    useless in Cartesian planes). Here, we have a curve f(x), which gives us a
    real root x=1,
    since f(x)=(x-1)²(x²+4), but also two complex roots, which are no longer systematically x'=2i and x"=-2i.

    This is very strange and worthy of interest.

    Thus, f'(x)=x²+4 does not have the same complex roots as
    f(x)=(x-1)²(x²+4).

    This clearly confuses all mathematicians, and even makes them laugh.

    And yet it's true.

    Just as real roots are unalterable (I can multiply by as many roots as I
    want, I would always have my first roots continued in the equation), this
    is no longer true for complex roots. This is very strange.

    <http://nemoweb.net/jntp?MgzF4TKP_46j3u1MBdnuxy16Yhg@jntp/Data.Media:1>


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    x'=2i

    Yes, but...

    x"=-0.38829i and not x"=-2i

    R.H.

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  • From Python@21:1/5 to All on Thu Mar 20 17:22:52 2025
    Le 20/03/2025 à 18:20, efji a écrit :
    Le 20/03/2025 à 17:45, Richard Hachel a écrit :
    Thus, f'(x)=x²+4 does not have the same complex roots as f(x)=(x-1)²(x²+4).

    in addition of ignoring the signification of "root", "associativity", "equality", "inclusion", "absorbing element", he proves now that he
    doesn't know the notion of "derivative" and the basic notations of
    maths. His ignorance and conceit are infinite...

    He is using confusing notations on purpose. Like all cranks his point is
    to introduce confusions, WM does the same.

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  • From efji@21:1/5 to All on Thu Mar 20 18:20:11 2025
    Le 20/03/2025 à 17:45, Richard Hachel a écrit :
    Thus, f'(x)=x²+4 does not have the same complex roots as f(x)=(x-1)²(x²+4).

    in addition of ignoring the signification of "root", "associativity", "equality", "inclusion", "absorbing element", he proves now that he
    doesn't know the notion of "derivative" and the basic notations of
    maths. His ignorance and conceit are infinite...

    --
    F.J.

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  • From Moebius@21:1/5 to All on Thu Mar 20 19:26:53 2025
    Am 20.03.2025 um 18:22 schrieb Python:
    Le 20/03/2025 à 18:20, efji a écrit :
    Le 20/03/2025 à 17:45, Richard Hachel a écrit :

    Thus, f'(x)=x²+4 does not have the same complex roots as
    f(x)=(x-1)²(x²+4).

    in addition of ignoring the signification of "root", "associativity",
    "equality", "inclusion", "absorbing element", he proves now that he
    doesn't know the notion of "derivative" and the basic notations of
    maths. His ignorance and conceit are infinite...

    He is using confusing notations on purpose. Like all cranks his point is
    to introduce confusions, WM does the same.

    Indeed!

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  • From Richard Hachel@21:1/5 to All on Thu Mar 20 21:14:20 2025
    Le 20/03/2025 à 18:22, Python a écrit :
    Le 20/03/2025 à 18:20, efji a écrit :
    Le 20/03/2025 à 17:45, Richard Hachel a écrit :

    He is using confusing notations on purpose.

    Oui, il fait exprès de se gourer.

    R.H.

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