• Re: DeepSeek helping me to clarify =?UTF-8?B?V2llbi1FaW5zdGVpbi1Qb2luY2

    From Bertitaylor@21:1/5 to Physfitfreak on Wed Apr 16 23:38:02 2025
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity, sci.physics

    On Wed, 16 Apr 2025 22:22:41 +0000, Physfitfreak wrote:

    On 4/16/25 4:14 AM, J. J. Lodder wrote:
    Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 4/14/25 2:01 PM, J. J. Lodder wrote:
    rhertz <hertz778@gmail.com> wrote:

    Wien was already a Nobel Prize by 1905. He had a tremendous respect and >>>>> influence from the European physics community (and also abroad). Planck >>>>> didn't have this.

    Why should we believe anything you write
    when you can't even get simple facts like this right?

    Jan


    What difference does it make what happened anyway. I don't understand
    you guys in this relativity forum.

    Some physics were developed and that's it. The important thing is the
    physics not the history of physics. Doesn't matter who did what.

    And all these human names Priests have packed into it. Concepts as well
    as units and rules and even some formulas! All with human names on them. >>> Are you people nuts?..

    Perhaps, but it is a very human trait.
    Things memorise more easily when there is a name attached to it.

    For example, even asteroids get names.
    Asteroid 1001 Gaussia for example may be easier on the brain
    than the provisional designation 1923 OA.
    Asteroid 'Gaussia' will even be understood if the number is forgotten,

    Jan




    No it's not that innocent a mess. Priest-minded crappy scientists,
    disguised as "scientists" have been forcing it to pack non-related
    humanities stuff in it for their own tribal interests. And they've gone
    too far. It's become disgusting in fact. Takes the attention of students
    away to stuff unrelated to physics.

    What physics? Modern physics is crap. Arindam's future physics is what
    matters. It is based upon pre Helmholtz physics.

    Did Newton ever do that?

    How could he? Who could he name? He was the first and also the greatest physicist. He had enough trouble from the Aristotlean elites. Even more
    than Arindam from Einsteinian elites. Who will Arindam refer for his
    future physics? Only those who preceded him and are known for their
    original contributions. Newton was following Copernicus and Galileo. In
    his time that was a revolutionary thing to do so best avoided.



    Of course not. As far as I know he never named
    names in his physics works. The closest that he came to point to a
    "history" of it was his comment about "giants". He was too good a
    physicist to name even those giants, cause it would be trash as far as physics concepts were concerned.

    Ah Roachie there is such a thing called individuality which all mediocre parasitic peoples seek to crush on the supposed equalising basis. Cut
    down tall poppies. Rob their intellectual property by loud proclamation
    of social justice.

    Physics history is a humanities field. It has absolutely nothing to do
    with physics.

    It jolly well has, to see the development of the field on a forensic
    basis.

    Woof-woof woof woof woof-woof

    Bertietaylor

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  • From Bertitaylor@21:1/5 to Physfitfreak on Thu Apr 17 13:44:55 2025
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity, sci.physics

    On Thu, 17 Apr 2025 3:45:31 +0000, Physfitfreak wrote:

    On 4/16/25 5:22 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:
    On 4/16/25 4:14 AM, J. J. Lodder wrote:
    Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 4/14/25 2:01 PM, J. J. Lodder wrote:
    rhertz <hertz778@gmail.com> wrote:

    Wien was already a Nobel Prize by 1905. He had a tremendous respect >>>>>> and
    influence from the European physics community (and also abroad).
    Planck
    didn't have this.

    Why should we believe anything you write
    when you can't even get simple facts like this right?

    Jan


    What difference does it make what happened anyway. I don't understand
    you guys in this relativity forum.

    Some physics were developed and that's it. The important thing is the
    physics not the history of physics. Doesn't matter who did what.

    And all these human names Priests have packed into it. Concepts as well >>>> as units and rules and even some formulas! All with human names on them. >>>> Are you people nuts?..

    Perhaps, but it is a very human trait.
    Things memorise more easily when there is a name attached to it.

    For example, even asteroids get names.
    Asteroid 1001 Gaussia for example may be easier on the brain
    than the provisional designation 1923 OA.
    Asteroid 'Gaussia' will even be understood if the number is forgotten,

    Jan




    No it's not that innocent a mess. Priest-minded crappy scientists,
    disguised as "scientists" have been forcing it to pack non-related
    humanities stuff in it for their own tribal interests. And they've gone
    too far. It's become disgusting in fact. Takes the attention of students
    away to stuff unrelated to physics.

    Did Newton ever do that? Of course not. As far as I know he never named
    names in his physics works. The closest that he came to point to a
    "history" of it was his comment about "giants". He was too good a
    physicist to name even those giants, cause it would be trash as far as
    physics concepts were concerned.

    Physics history is a humanities field. It has absolutely nothing to do
    with physics.






    Wouldn't it be better if for a paper that's been published, the writers
    of it would appear as only codes, and not their names or affiliations,
    codes which themselves would change with each new paper they write. This
    will secure the danger of bias in reading such papers. There'd only be
    the material to concentrate on, and nothing else that could give the
    readers any cues about in whose presence they are when they're reading
    the work. Physics requires such degree of objectivity.

    Any new advance is subjective, Roachie. In time it becomes objective
    when many approve. With mysterious codes instead of names it becomes
    merely robotic. And full. No fun. Yes tribalism is an issue. It will not
    go away.

    The references section of the paper should likewise avoid giving such
    cues. Only the titles of the papers, and dates, together with the corresponding codes tied to each one and unique to it, would be given.

    People write papers for their careers. Their own careers. One does not
    work for the elevation of mysterious codes.

    This will fight tribalism.

    Nothing beats tribalism. The most fundamental quality of apes,
    tribalism.

    All that bias that's packed today in the form of who's who will get eliminated, and what's left is physics itself to research and understand
    and develop.

    Careerists do not do any worthwhile research as hobbyists like Newton
    and Arindam. Their speciality is politics, not research. What to write
    where to get published and receive grants.



    Under such system, Arindams of the world will subsist, but only at the subsistence level.

    Roachie, Arindam has been persona non grata to the physics journals. He
    does not have a single publication in any physics journal.

    So Arindam posts his work in Usenet, Facebook and YouTube. The control
    the physicists have is to ignore him and ridicule him. They cannot
    challenge him online or media for they know that they he have no chance
    against Arindam's immensely superior and clear future physics.

    All that bullshit keeps coming and are quickly read
    and tossed away by researchers. I don't think the loss of time and
    effort involved would be even mentionable. If I read 20 different works
    of Arindam not knowing they've all been from him, it would still take me really seconds for each to find the bogus there and toss them. I mean
    the waste of time for 20 of them added together would be less than 10 minutes.

    Okay you are such a confirmed dickhead, that is well known. Nothing
    special. All anti-Arindam physicists are dickheads with their dicks
    buried in their personal black holes. Snakes!

    And with continuation of this norm, researchers will get super sharp in detecting bogus not from knowing the author, but from the presented
    material itself because they would have no other ways to prevent such material coming to them. They won't have an "Arindam" or "Archimedes Plutonium" name attached to help them toss'em faster. I think the
    additional bogus detecting skills it creates is/8 worth the little price paid.

    Stupid Roachie, Arindam does not publish in journals so your coding
    stuff is irrelevant.

    And physics will remain a physics-based, not an author-based science.

    Tch tch, the future of physics will be the physics of Arindam. Out with inertia. Thermodynamics. Relativity nonsenses. Quantum Bunkum.

    The way it is now, when I open a physics book I get nausiated by it. It
    feels like a Bible, written by the Fremasonry. Fuck you of course for
    it. Fuck you cro-magnons.

    Who cares for the feelings of roaches, Roachie! Eat beans and fart.

    Woof-woof woof woof woof-woof woof

    Bertietaylor

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  • From Bertitaylor@21:1/5 to Bertitaylor on Thu Apr 17 21:24:06 2025
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity, sci.physics

    On Thu, 17 Apr 2025 13:44:53 +0000, Bertitaylor wrote:

    On Thu, 17 Apr 2025 3:45:31 +0000, Physfitfreak wrote:

    On 4/16/25 5:22 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:
    On 4/16/25 4:14 AM, J. J. Lodder wrote:
    Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 4/14/25 2:01 PM, J. J. Lodder wrote:
    rhertz <hertz778@gmail.com> wrote:

    Wien was already a Nobel Prize by 1905. He had a tremendous respect >>>>>>> and
    influence from the European physics community (and also abroad). >>>>>>> Planck
    didn't have this.

    Why should we believe anything you write
    when you can't even get simple facts like this right?

    Jan


    What difference does it make what happened anyway. I don't understand >>>>> you guys in this relativity forum.

    Some physics were developed and that's it. The important thing is the >>>>> physics not the history of physics. Doesn't matter who did what.

    And all these human names Priests have packed into it. Concepts as well >>>>> as units and rules and even some formulas! All with human names on them. >>>>> Are you people nuts?..

    Perhaps, but it is a very human trait.
    Things memorise more easily when there is a name attached to it.

    For example, even asteroids get names.
    Asteroid 1001 Gaussia for example may be easier on the brain
    than the provisional designation 1923 OA.
    Asteroid 'Gaussia' will even be understood if the number is forgotten, >>>>
    Jan




    No it's not that innocent a mess. Priest-minded crappy scientists,
    disguised as "scientists" have been forcing it to pack non-related
    humanities stuff in it for their own tribal interests. And they've gone
    too far. It's become disgusting in fact. Takes the attention of students >>> away to stuff unrelated to physics.

    Did Newton ever do that? Of course not. As far as I know he never named
    names in his physics works. The closest that he came to point to a
    "history" of it was his comment about "giants". He was too good a
    physicist to name even those giants, cause it would be trash as far as
    physics concepts were concerned.

    Physics history is a humanities field. It has absolutely nothing to do
    with physics.






    Wouldn't it be better if for a paper that's been published, the writers
    of it would appear as only codes, and not their names or affiliations,
    codes which themselves would change with each new paper they write. This
    will secure the danger of bias in reading such papers. There'd only be
    the material to concentrate on, and nothing else that could give the
    readers any cues about in whose presence they are when they're reading
    the work. Physics requires such degree of objectivity.

    Any new advance is subjective, Roachie. In time it becomes objective
    when many approve. With mysterious codes instead of names it becomes
    merely robotic. And full.

    Dull, not full, above.
    Autocorrect can be a pain.



    No fun. Yes tribalism is an issue. It will not
    go away.

    The references section of the paper should likewise avoid giving such
    cues. Only the titles of the papers, and dates, together with the
    corresponding codes tied to each one and unique to it, would be given.

    People write papers for their careers. Their own careers. One does not
    work for the elevation of mysterious codes.

    This will fight tribalism.

    Nothing beats tribalism. The most fundamental quality of apes,
    tribalism.

    All that bias that's packed today in the form of who's who will get
    eliminated, and what's left is physics itself to research and understand
    and develop.

    Careerists do not do any worthwhile research as hobbyists like Newton
    and Arindam. Their speciality is politics, not research. What to write
    where to get published and receive grants.



    Under such system, Arindams of the world will subsist, but only at the
    subsistence level.

    Roachie, Arindam has been persona non grata to the physics journals. He
    does not have a single publication in any physics journal.

    So Arindam posts his work in Usenet, Facebook and YouTube. The control
    the physicists have is to ignore him and ridicule him. They cannot
    challenge him online or media for they know that they he have no chance against Arindam's immensely superior and clear future physics.

    All that bullshit keeps coming and are quickly read
    and tossed away by researchers. I don't think the loss of time and
    effort involved would be even mentionable. If I read 20 different works
    of Arindam not knowing they've all been from him, it would still take me
    really seconds for each to find the bogus there and toss them. I mean
    the waste of time for 20 of them added together would be less than 10
    minutes.

    Okay you are such a confirmed dickhead, that is well known. Nothing
    special. All anti-Arindam physicists are dickheads with their dicks
    buried in their personal black holes. Snakes!

    And with continuation of this norm, researchers will get super sharp in
    detecting bogus not from knowing the author, but from the presented
    material itself because they would have no other ways to prevent such
    material coming to them. They won't have an "Arindam" or "Archimedes
    Plutonium" name attached to help them toss'em faster. I think the
    additional bogus detecting skills it creates is/8 worth the little price
    paid.

    Stupid Roachie, Arindam does not publish in journals so your coding
    stuff is irrelevant.

    And physics will remain a physics-based, not an author-based science.

    Tch tch, the future of physics will be the physics of Arindam. Out with inertia. Thermodynamics. Relativity nonsenses. Quantum Bunkum.

    The way it is now, when I open a physics book I get nausiated by it. It
    feels like a Bible, written by the Fremasonry. Fuck you of course for
    it. Fuck you cro-magnons.

    Who cares for the feelings of roaches, Roachie! Eat beans and fart.

    Woof-woof woof woof woof-woof woof

    Bertietaylor

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