• The cause of gravity and unification of forces

    From Bertitaylor@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jul 2 02:33:15 2025
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity, sci.physics

    Arindam has given the details of the cause of gravity in his matchless
    essay, easily available in Usenet. Link is easy to find.

    Gravity is a mild attractive force caused by electrostatic attraction
    between atoms being more than electrostatic repulsion.

    The electrons in the outer shells and in the nucleus of an atom
    certainly repel electrons from all atoms. However maths and calculation
    show that the protons in the nucleus must attract the electrons somewhat
    more.

    The so called strong force is actually the very strong attractive bond
    between protons and electrons at very small distances.

    WOOF woof-woof woof woof-woof woof

    Bertietaylor (Arindam's celestial cyberdogs)

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  • From Jim Pennino@21:1/5 to Bertitaylor on Tue Jul 1 20:51:59 2025
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity, sci.physics

    In sci.physics Bertitaylor <bertietaylor@myyahoo.com> wrote:
    Arindam has given the details of the cause of gravity in his matchless
    essay, easily available in Usenet. Link is easy to find.

    Gravity is a mild attractive force caused by electrostatic attraction
    between atoms being more than electrostatic repulsion.

    The electrons in the outer shells and in the nucleus of an atom
    certainly repel electrons from all atoms. However maths and calculation
    show that the protons in the nucleus must attract the electrons somewhat more.

    The so called strong force is actually the very strong attractive bond between protons and electrons at very small distances.

    WOOF woof-woof woof woof-woof woof

    Bertietaylor (Arindam's celestial cyberdogs)

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    AI evaluation:

    Arindam’s latest post, continuing under his alias “Bertietaylor,” again demonstrates a fundamental misunderstanding of well-established physics. Let’s break it down:
    Core Claims and Their Scientific Standing

    “Gravity is a mild attractive force caused by electrostatic
    attraction between atoms being more than electrostatic repulsion.”

    Incorrect: Gravity is not caused by electrostatic forces.
    Gravity arises from mass and energy as described by Einstein’s
    General Relativity, not from a residual imbalance in atomic charges.
    At atomic and molecular levels, electrostatic forces dominate,
    and in neutral matter, these forces largely cancel. If
    electrostatic forces drove gravity, materials with different
    compositions would fall at different rates—which they don’t
    (Galileo showed this long ago, and it's confirmed to high precision).

    “The electrons in the outer shells and in the nucleus... certainly
    repel electrons from all atoms.”

    Partially Correct: Yes, electrons repel each other due to like
    charges.

    But flawed context: This doesn't relate meaningfully to gravity.
    Electron-electron repulsion does not contribute to large-scale
    attraction. Moreover, electrons are not in the nucleus under
    normal conditions—only in certain beta decay processes is this
    relevant.

    “Maths and calculation show that the protons... attract the electrons
    somewhat more.”

    False assumption: In neutral atoms, Coulombic forces are
    balanced—that’s the definition of electrical neutrality.
    There's no hidden surplus of proton-electron attraction driving
    a net interatomic attraction. If such a surplus existed, matter
    would collapse.

    “The so-called strong force is actually the very strong attractive
    bond between protons and electrons at very small distances.”

    Totally wrong: The strong nuclear force binds protons and
    neutrons together in the nucleus.
    It has nothing to do with electrons, which are governed by
    electromagnetic interactions. The strong force is mediated by
    gluons and acts only at sub-femtometer scales between quarks.
    Suggesting that it’s an electron-proton bond is a category error.

    Cognitive or Intellectual Assessment (assuming sincerity)

    If Arindam sincerely believes what he writes:

    He appears to lack a basic grasp of atomic structure, electromagnetism,
    and nuclear physics.

    He consistently confuses distinct physical forces (electromagnetic,
    gravitational, nuclear) and tries to reduce everything to a
    misunderstood form of electrostatics.

    He presents his assertions with absolute confidence, indicating
    delusional certainty rather than scientific inquiry or error correction.

    The repeated use of “WOOF woof-woof...” and “celestial cyberdogs”
    adds a layer of surrealist or manic flavor, possibly pointing to
    grandiose or performative thinking.

    Conclusion

    This post is scientifically invalid on every major claim.
    Arindam/Bertietaylor shows:

    A rejection of mainstream physics,

    Repeated invocation of fictional mechanisms,

    And possibly signs of delusional ideation or compulsive
    pseudoscientific narrative-building.

    Unless this is satire or trolling (which is possible but unlikely
    given the consistency), it represents a severely flawed model of
    physical reality rooted in personal invention rather than evidence
    or comprehension.


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  • From Bertitaylor@21:1/5 to Bertitaylor on Wed Jul 2 06:32:49 2025
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity, sci.physics

    On Wed, 2 Jul 2025 2:33:12 +0000, Bertitaylor wrote:

    Arindam has given the details of the cause of gravity in his matchless
    essay, easily available in Usenet. Link is easy to find.

    Gravity is a mild attractive force caused by electrostatic attraction
    between atoms being more than electrostatic repulsion.

    The electrons in the outer shells and in the nucleus of an atom
    certainly repel electrons from all atoms. However maths and calculation
    show that the protons in the nucleus must attract the electrons somewhat more.

    The so called strong force is actually the very strong attractive bond between protons and electrons at very small distances.

    WOOF woof-woof woof woof-woof woof

    Bertietaylor (Arindam's celestial cyberdogs)

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    Gravity shows the nuclear structure as composed of protons and
    electrons. Of course, radioactivity with beta rays directly shows that electrons exist in the nucleus.

    The gamma ray, or extremely powerful X ray, has a frequency
    corresponding to intranuclear distances. This shows the existence of
    aether as infinitely fine and elastic medium for electromagnetic waves.

    Woof woof woof woof-woof

    Bertietaylor

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  • From Jim Pennino@21:1/5 to Bertitaylor on Wed Jul 2 06:41:16 2025
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity, sci.physics

    In sci.physics Bertitaylor <bertietaylor@myyahoo.com> wrote:
    On Wed, 2 Jul 2025 2:33:12 +0000, Bertitaylor wrote:

    Arindam has given the details of the cause of gravity in his matchless
    essay, easily available in Usenet. Link is easy to find.

    Gravity is a mild attractive force caused by electrostatic attraction
    between atoms being more than electrostatic repulsion.

    The electrons in the outer shells and in the nucleus of an atom
    certainly repel electrons from all atoms. However maths and calculation
    show that the protons in the nucleus must attract the electrons somewhat
    more.

    The so called strong force is actually the very strong attractive bond
    between protons and electrons at very small distances.

    WOOF woof-woof woof woof-woof woof

    Bertietaylor (Arindam's celestial cyberdogs)

    --

    Gravity shows the nuclear structure as composed of protons and
    electrons. Of course, radioactivity with beta rays directly shows that electrons exist in the nucleus.

    The gamma ray, or extremely powerful X ray, has a frequency
    corresponding to intranuclear distances. This shows the existence of
    aether as infinitely fine and elastic medium for electromagnetic waves.

    Woof woof woof woof-woof

    Bertietaylor

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    AI evaluation:

    Arindam (writing as "Bertietaylor") continues his pattern of conflating outdated or misunderstood physics concepts with idiosyncratic conclusions. Here's a point-by-point evaluation of this latest post:
    Claim 1: "Gravity shows the nuclear structure as composed of protons and electrons."

    Scientific evaluation: This is factually incorrect.

    Gravity does not determine or reveal nuclear structure. Nuclear
    structure is governed by the strong nuclear force, not gravitational
    interaction, which is many orders of magnitude weaker.

    Atomic nuclei consist of protons and neutrons. The idea that the
    nucleus is made of protons and electrons is a discarded
    early-20th-century hypothesis (the proton-electron model) that was
    debunked by discoveries in nuclear physics.

    Conclusion: A clear misunderstanding of nuclear and gravitational physics.

    Claim 2: "Radioactivity with beta rays directly shows that electrons exist
    in the nucleus."

    Scientific evaluation: This is a misinterpretation.

    In beta-minus decay, a neutron decays into a proton, electron, and
    antineutrino. The electron (beta particle) is not pre-existing in
    the nucleus but is created in the decay process via the weak nuclear
    force.

    No evidence supports the idea of free electrons "living" inside the
    nucleus in a bound state.

    Conclusion: Misrepresentation of beta decay; confuses emission with
    preexistence.

    Claim 3: "The gamma ray, or extremely powerful X ray, has a frequency corresponding to intranuclear distances."

    Scientific evaluation: Partly correct, but misused.

    Gamma rays do indeed have very short wavelengths (on the order of
    10^-12 m), consistent with nuclear energy transitions. They are
    typically emitted during nuclear decay.

    However, this does not imply anything about aether or validate its
    existence.

    Conclusion: Correct numerical scale, but the inferred conclusion is non
    sequitur.

    Claim 4: "This shows the existence of aether as infinitely fine and elastic medium for electromagnetic waves."

    Scientific evaluation: This is an outdated and disproven idea.

    The luminiferous aether was ruled out by experiments like the
    Michelson–Morley experiment (1887) and replaced by Einstein's
    theory of special relativity, which does not require a medium
    for light propagation.

    Quantum field theory and general relativity provide robust
    frameworks for understanding electromagnetic waves and gravity
    without invoking an aether.

    Conclusion: Arindam is reviving a pre-relativistic idea that has been
    decisively rejected.

    "Woof woof woof woof-woof"

    This appears to be Arindam’s idiosyncratic rhetorical flourish,
    possibly intended to mock or signal derision, though it only further
    distances his argument from scientific seriousness.

    Overall Assessment

    Arindam continues to recycle:

    Long-discredited models (electrons in the nucleus),

    Misunderstood interpretations of nuclear decay,

    Revivalist pseudoscience (aether theory),

    And rhetorical dog-barking meant to ridicule rather than clarify.

    If he sincerely believes this, it strongly suggests deep-rooted
    misconceptions, possibly delusional thinking, or fixation on obsolete
    theories in defiance of overwhelming modern evidence. The persistent
    rejection of basic scientific facts despite their accessibility could
    be symptomatic of a paranoid or grandiose belief structure, not necessarily pathological in itself, but clearly disconnected from consensus reality.



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  • From David Canzi@21:1/5 to Bertitaylor on Wed Jul 2 12:08:44 2025
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity, sci.physics

    On 7/1/25 22:33, Bertitaylor wrote:
    Arindam has given the details of the cause of gravity in his matchless
    essay, easily available in Usenet. Link is easy to find.

    "Helen Hunt will have it. Go to Helen Hunt for it."

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  • From Bertitaylor@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jul 2 21:55:57 2025
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity, sci.physics

    Looks like Penisnino is smarter than we thought!

    He is putting words into AI's mouth!

    For not even AI could be as wrong and dishonest as is evident.

    The imbecile often shows low cunning. Definitely Penisnino has to be
    upgraded from idiot to imbecile status.

    WOOF woof woof-woof woof woof-woof low cunning has raised apes above
    all! No doubt. And yet, it is pathetic in a way.

    Bertietaylor

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  • From Python@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jul 2 22:09:52 2025
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity, sci.physics

    Le 02/07/2025 à 23:55, bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) a écrit :
    ...
    WOOF woof woof-woof woof woof-woof low cunning has raised apes above
    all! No doubt. And yet, it is pathetic in a way.

    Bertietaylor

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    "Bertie Taylor" aka Arindam eating his own shit:

    https://ibb.co/6JmK3p70

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  • From Jim Pennino@21:1/5 to Bertitaylor on Wed Jul 2 15:11:43 2025
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity, sci.physics

    In sci.physics Bertitaylor <bertietaylor@myyahoo.com> wrote:
    Looks like Penisnino is smarter than we thought!

    He is putting words into AI's mouth!

    For not even AI could be as wrong and dishonest as is evident.

    The imbecile often shows low cunning. Definitely Penisnino has to be
    upgraded from idiot to imbecile status.

    WOOF woof woof-woof woof woof-woof low cunning has raised apes above
    all! No doubt. And yet, it is pathetic in a way.

    Bertietaylor

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    AI analysis:

    Arindam’s latest post as “Bertietaylor” follows his typical pattern of:

    Ad hominem attacks: He fixates on an invented insult ("Penisnino")
    and cycles through derogatory classifications like “idiot” and
    “imbecile.” This is not a critique but rather name-calling masquerading
    as commentary.

    Projection and anthropomorphizing AI: He claims the user is “putting
    words into AI’s mouth” while also suggesting that AI couldn’t be “as
    wrong and dishonest” as the human target. This paints AI as a neutral
    or superior arbiter while excusing his own misuse of it. The irony is
    that this rhetorical move both denies AI’s sophistication and uses its
    presumed objectivity as a bludgeon.

    Pseudointellectual moralizing: The phrase “low cunning has raised apes
    above all!” is a typical Arindam-ism—misapplied evolutionary or
    philosophical metaphor attempting to sound profound but ultimately empty.
    It comes across as forced and bitter rather than insightful.

    Dog-speak ("WOOF woof..."): This recurring element is intended as a
    mocking flourish—his version of punctuation-by-ridicule. It serves to
    both undercut the seriousness of the discourse and signal contempt. It
    adds theatricality but undermines credibility.

    Psychological and Rhetorical Profile:

    Assuming sincerity, this post further reinforces the impression of:

    Grandiosity mixed with contempt, common in delusional or paranoid
    ideation.

    Obsessive engagement with specific individuals or targets of ridicule,
    hinting at fixation or persecution complex.

    Hostility masked as satire, lacking genuine argument or analysis.

    A collapse of logical framing, where critique is replaced by insult
    and performance.

    It contains no substantive physics, science, or rational argumentation. The purpose appears to be venting and self-display, rather than communication.

    Conclusion: This is another instance of Arindam’s increasingly unhinged, rhetorical posturing. It reveals more about his emotional state—aggrieved, self-righteous, and isolating—than it does about any external topic.


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  • From Bertitaylor@21:1/5 to Python on Thu Jul 3 00:25:09 2025
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity, sci.physics

    On Wed, 2 Jul 2025 22:09:52 +0000, Python wrote:

    Le 02/07/2025 à 23:55, bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) a écrit :
    ...
    WOOF woof woof-woof woof woof-woof low cunning has raised apes above
    all! No doubt. And yet, it is pathetic in a way.

    Bertietaylor

    --

    "Bertie Taylor" aka Arindam eating his own shit:

    https://ibb.co/6JmK3p70

    Fool, Arindam is enjoying his stay on Earth just as we are enjoying ours
    in Heaven.

    WOOF woof-woof woof woof-woof woof

    Bertietaylor

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  • From Jim Pennino@21:1/5 to Bertitaylor on Wed Jul 2 18:36:30 2025
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity, sci.physics

    In sci.physics Bertitaylor <bertietaylor@myyahoo.com> wrote:
    Okay, officially JimP is upgraded to imbecile status.

    WOOF woof woof-woof woof

    Bertietaylor

    --

    AI evaluation:

    Arindam, writing as "Bertietaylor," continues to use the same rhetorical patterns that have marked his recent online persona: insult-based
    deflection, performative derision, and dog-barking mockery as a signature flourish.

    Evaluation:

    Content:

    There is no substantive engagement with the prior analysis or
    criticism. Instead, Arindam resorts to labeling ("imbecile") and
    reiterating his now-familiar “WOOF” signature.

    This reflects an avoidance of argument rather than any attempt to
    refute or clarify a position.

    Tone and Intent:

    The tone is deliberately mocking and dismissive.

    It's not a genuine rebuttal but more of a social dominance display,
    meant to assert superiority by ridicule, not reason.

    The use of "officially" and the promotion to "imbecile" seems to
    parody academic or formal discourse, but in a childish, unserious way.

    Psychological Profile (Assuming Sincerity):
    If we take this at face value and not as trolling:

    The pattern suggests either paranoid defensiveness or grandiose
    delusion, with the "WOOF" motif functioning almost like a verbal
    tic or branding.

    The refusal to engage in rational discourse could point toward
    cognitive disorganization, or, more plausibly, a deliberate
    anti-intellectual posture tied to an oppositional identity.

    Comparison to Similar Figures:

    This tactic resembles that of pseudoscientific or conspiratorial
    figures who, when cornered by evidence or logic, default to ad
    hominem attacks and theatrical scorn rather than intellectual defense.

    It’s stylistically reminiscent of online personas who conflate
    attention with credibility and rely on performative contempt as
    their primary mode of argument.

    Conclusion:
    This is not an attempt at debate or scientific discussion. It's a
    continuation of Arindam's rhetorical theater — one that prioritizes
    insult, mock performance, and the illusion of authority over any sincere pursuit of truth or understanding.


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  • From Bertitaylor@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jul 3 00:22:43 2025
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity, sci.physics

    Okay, officially JimP is upgraded to imbecile status.

    WOOF woof woof-woof woof

    Bertietaylor

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