• Re: Most people believe that mathematical truths are logically necessar

    From Julio Di Egidio@21:1/5 to Chris M. Thomasson on Thu Jul 10 13:35:59 2025
    XPost: sci.logic

    On 10/07/2025 03:52, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
    On 7/9/2025 3:35 PM, Julio Di Egidio wrote:
    [I'll post here since I cannot post there.]

    I think most people believe that mathematical truths are logically
    necessary.

    Most people don't even know what necessary vs contingent means.
    (Non-trivial) mathematical truth is (necessarily!) contingent, on
    mathematical definitions and rules!  (Even those who believe God
    gave us the integers, should remember that at least the rest is man
    made.)  Indeed, logic and mathematics rather are *opposite* poles!

    The fact that sqrt(2) is irrational doesn't depend on who proved it,
    when they proved it, whether they liked it, or any other contingent
    historical facts.

    In fact, contingent does not reduce to historical, it's not even in
    the same category...  Truth rather is that almost nobody can even
    guess anymore what *logic*, even more so *philosophy*, even is: and
    any *value* or *judgment* that is not just by arbitrium and abuse.

    I think pi is pi even regarding beings from another planet? If they know
    what a circle is... ;^)

    If they know what a circle is, they know what *geometry* is,
    and geometry indeed goes with logic, not with mathematics...

    ...which I have been saying around here for 15+ years, you
    fucking nazi-retarded cunts and polluters of all ponds.

    Eat shit and die, you and the whole bandwagon.

    *Plonk*

    -Julio

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