• [UK Telegraph] This is the real conspiracy of silence in the election

    From Michael Ejercito@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jul 1 06:50:17 2024
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    https://www.reddit.com/r/LockdownSkepticism/comments/1dsoods/uk_telegraph_this_is_the_real_conspiracy_of/


    Here are three articles on the same subject, from the UK Telegraph, on
    three successive days. All three point out the same thing: that, in this frenzied election season - we are, what, 3 days away from the election
    date? 4 days? Can't remember, I care so much little - no-one is
    mentioning COVID, lockdowns, vaccines, vaccine mandates.

    This is the real conspiracy of silence in the election (28th June,
    Francis Hoar)

    The Conservatives are paying the terrible price for Britain's lockdown
    amnesia (29th June, Daniel Hannan)

    This is the one glaring omission from this election's endless debates
    (30th June, Liam Halligan)

    Francis Hoar KC is a barrister with a long involvement in anti-lockdown activism. I vividly remember seeing him at the corner of Whitehall and Parliament Square during an anti-lockdown protest, in full barrister's
    dress, talking animatedly with a group of people who'd gathered around
    him. (I joined in the discussion, of course!)

    Daniel Hannan (now Lord Hannan, I think?) is a familiar figure in
    Brexiter politics. I can't remember the details of his involvement with
    Nigel Farage: was he a financier of the Brexit movement, or of the
    Brexit Party?

    Liam Halligan I know little about: but it seems he interviewed Jay
    Bhattacharya in 2021.

    All three are well worth reading. Choice quotes:

    Hoar:

    ...the ability to exercise democratic choice matters little if the
    public is unable to give its verdict on the sitting government’s most far-reaching decision. We can only hope that time and experience will
    teach us the lessons that will not be learned in this election about
    this catastrophic error.

    Hannan:

    The paradox of the current election is that both Johnson and Sunak were
    more sceptical of the lockdown than most of those who now blame them for
    it. Recall that Keir Starmer opposed the loosening of restrictions, and
    even wanted them reimposed at the end of 2021.

    Halligan:

    The impact of lockdown and the question of how the UK should respond to
    the next pandemic remain at the heart of the nation’s collective
    psyche.The fact this highly controversial policy has barely been
    mentioned during the subsequent general election campaign, despite
    compelling evidence countless mistakes were made, is yet another reason
    public faith in politics is so seriously diminished.

    The depressing thing is that while it's good to read publicly-expressed opinions which agree with my own - that this election is almost entirely meaningless - none of the three authors presents any possible solution.
    Except, of course, that "we" (meaning the public sphere) should start
    talking about it. Which is extremely unlikely to happen, either in the 3
    (4?) days remaining before the polling booths open, or during the idle, 2-month-long, Parliament-on-holiday orgy of Labour triumphalism which is
    likely to follow.

    Hannan does, rightly, give credit to Nigel Farage for being the only
    candidate to mention lockdown: which Farage has, in scathing tones.
    Hannan doesn't go this far, or even hint at it (in spite of some bad
    blood between the two of them which I seem to remember), but Farage's
    speeches on lockdown seem to me to be a bit opportunistic. Though Hannan
    does make me think better of Farage by pointing out that, though he was
    in favour of the first lockdown, he was passionately against the second
    and the third (I'd forgotten that).

    My own view is that I'm glad that Farage is stirring up "trouble" by
    trying to bring lockdown onto the agenda. I'm grateful to him for it,
    though I've never been a political supporter of his (in fact, he was my political opponent during Remain/Brexit). The flaw in this tactic of his
    - for my desired purposes, not his - is that this is very likely to make
    the 'proper' parties which we should vote for even less likely to take
    the issue seriously: simply because it's Farage who raises it. We have
    our own Farage Derangement Syndrome over here, like TDS over in the US.
    (On the other hand, for Farage's own purposes, slamming lockdown will
    win him plenty of supporters down here in the general public).

    Which makes me wonder: is forcing the 'proper' political authorities and parties to face up to the hideousness of what they did in 2020-24 a
    realistic or feasible goal? Or should we write that off as impossible?
    Is the best we can hope for that political authority, based on ignoring
    this elephant in the room, will just continue to wither away, become
    more and more farcical and divorced from reality? Until something
    happens... it's a bit of a millennial, apocalyptic situation.

    I've read (and probably written) plenty of opinion that the "mainstream" parties, after their complicity in lockdown, are finished, discredited.
    Yet right here, in the UK, is depressing evidence that they are far from finished: if they're dead, they certainly haven't stopped twitching yet.
    There Is Still No Alternative, as Thatcher didn't quite say. The
    election is basically about the same old two parties.

    Except for Nigel Farage's Reform, who are unlikely to win many seats
    (partly due to our weird, minority-party-hating electoral system).
    Personally I don't agree with Reform on many issues, though I obviously
    agree completely with them on lockdown. So I'm in the weird position of
    not voting for them (which doesn't matter where I live, they'd never
    win), but still hoping that they win a significant number of seats, just
    to give them a voice to go on poking holes in the 'proper' parties'
    bubble of delusion.

    In other words, I'm hoping for political instability: even though that
    means more waiting, apocalyptically, for something, eventually, to
    happen. Even though the prospect of political instability is pretty
    horrrible. But I prefer it to the alternative: political 'stability', in
    which everyone knows exactly what's happening, because everyone agrees completely. I've lived through that, and I never want to again.

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  • From HeartDoc Andrew@21:1/5 to Michael Ejercito on Mon Jul 1 15:36:21 2024
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    Michael Ejercito wrote:

    https://www.reddit.com/r/LockdownSkepticism/comments/1dsoods/uk_telegraph_this_is_the_real_conspiracy_of/


    Here are three articles on the same subject, from the UK Telegraph, on
    three successive days. All three point out the same thing: that, in this >frenzied election season - we are, what, 3 days away from the election
    date? 4 days? Can't remember, I care so much little - no-one is
    mentioning COVID, lockdowns, vaccines, vaccine mandates.

    This is the real conspiracy of silence in the election (28th June,
    Francis Hoar)

    The Conservatives are paying the terrible price for Britain's lockdown >amnesia (29th June, Daniel Hannan)

    This is the one glaring omission from this election's endless debates
    (30th June, Liam Halligan)

    Francis Hoar KC is a barrister with a long involvement in anti-lockdown >activism. I vividly remember seeing him at the corner of Whitehall and >Parliament Square during an anti-lockdown protest, in full barrister's
    dress, talking animatedly with a group of people who'd gathered around
    him. (I joined in the discussion, of course!)

    Daniel Hannan (now Lord Hannan, I think?) is a familiar figure in
    Brexiter politics. I can't remember the details of his involvement with
    Nigel Farage: was he a financier of the Brexit movement, or of the
    Brexit Party?

    Liam Halligan I know little about: but it seems he interviewed Jay >Bhattacharya in 2021.

    All three are well worth reading. Choice quotes:

    Hoar:

    ...the ability to exercise democratic choice matters little if the
    public is unable to give its verdict on the sitting government’s most >far-reaching decision. We can only hope that time and experience will
    teach us the lessons that will not be learned in this election about
    this catastrophic error.

    Hannan:

    The paradox of the current election is that both Johnson and Sunak were
    more sceptical of the lockdown than most of those who now blame them for
    it. Recall that Keir Starmer opposed the loosening of restrictions, and
    even wanted them reimposed at the end of 2021.

    Halligan:

    The impact of lockdown and the question of how the UK should respond to
    the next pandemic remain at the heart of the nation’s collective
    psyche.The fact this highly controversial policy has barely been
    mentioned during the subsequent general election campaign, despite
    compelling evidence countless mistakes were made, is yet another reason >public faith in politics is so seriously diminished.

    The depressing thing is that while it's good to read publicly-expressed >opinions which agree with my own - that this election is almost entirely >meaningless - none of the three authors presents any possible solution. >Except, of course, that "we" (meaning the public sphere) should start
    talking about it. Which is extremely unlikely to happen, either in the 3
    (4?) days remaining before the polling booths open, or during the idle, >2-month-long, Parliament-on-holiday orgy of Labour triumphalism which is >likely to follow.

    Hannan does, rightly, give credit to Nigel Farage for being the only >candidate to mention lockdown: which Farage has, in scathing tones.
    Hannan doesn't go this far, or even hint at it (in spite of some bad
    blood between the two of them which I seem to remember), but Farage's >speeches on lockdown seem to me to be a bit opportunistic. Though Hannan
    does make me think better of Farage by pointing out that, though he was
    in favour of the first lockdown, he was passionately against the second
    and the third (I'd forgotten that).

    My own view is that I'm glad that Farage is stirring up "trouble" by
    trying to bring lockdown onto the agenda. I'm grateful to him for it,
    though I've never been a political supporter of his (in fact, he was my >political opponent during Remain/Brexit). The flaw in this tactic of his
    - for my desired purposes, not his - is that this is very likely to make
    the 'proper' parties which we should vote for even less likely to take
    the issue seriously: simply because it's Farage who raises it. We have
    our own Farage Derangement Syndrome over here, like TDS over in the US.
    (On the other hand, for Farage's own purposes, slamming lockdown will
    win him plenty of supporters down here in the general public).

    Which makes me wonder: is forcing the 'proper' political authorities and >parties to face up to the hideousness of what they did in 2020-24 a
    realistic or feasible goal? Or should we write that off as impossible?
    Is the best we can hope for that political authority, based on ignoring
    this elephant in the room, will just continue to wither away, become
    more and more farcical and divorced from reality? Until something
    happens... it's a bit of a millennial, apocalyptic situation.

    I've read (and probably written) plenty of opinion that the "mainstream" >parties, after their complicity in lockdown, are finished, discredited.
    Yet right here, in the UK, is depressing evidence that they are far from >finished: if they're dead, they certainly haven't stopped twitching yet. >There Is Still No Alternative, as Thatcher didn't quite say. The
    election is basically about the same old two parties.

    Except for Nigel Farage's Reform, who are unlikely to win many seats
    (partly due to our weird, minority-party-hating electoral system).
    Personally I don't agree with Reform on many issues, though I obviously
    agree completely with them on lockdown. So I'm in the weird position of
    not voting for them (which doesn't matter where I live, they'd never
    win), but still hoping that they win a significant number of seats, just
    to give them a voice to go on poking holes in the 'proper' parties'
    bubble of delusion.

    In other words, I'm hoping for political instability: even though that
    means more waiting, apocalyptically, for something, eventually, to
    happen. Even though the prospect of political instability is pretty >horrrible. But I prefer it to the alternative: political 'stability', in >which everyone knows exactly what's happening, because everyone agrees >completely. I've lived through that, and I never want to again.

    In the interim, we are 100% prepared/protected in the "full armor of
    GOD" (Ephesians 6:11) which we put on as soon as we use Apostle Paul's
    secret (Philippians 4:12). Though masking is less protective, it helps
    us avoid the appearance of doing the evil of spreading airborne
    pathogens while there are people getting sick because of not being
    100% protected. It is written that we're to "abstain from **all**
    appearance of doing evil" (1 Thessalonians 5:22 w/**emphasis**).

    Meanwhile, the only *perfect* (Matt 5:47-8 ) way to eradicate the
    COVID-19 virus, thereby saving lives, in the UK & elsewhere is by
    rapidly (i.e. use the "Rapid COVID-19 Test" ) finding out at any given
    moment, including even while on-line, who among us are unwittingly
    contagious (i.e pre-symptomatic or asymptomatic) in order to
    "convince it forward" (John 15:12) for them to call their doctor and self-quarantine per their doctor in hopes of stopping this pandemic.
    Thus, we're hoping for the best while preparing for the worse-case
    scenario of the Alpha lineage mutations and others like the Omicron,
    Gamma, Beta, Epsilon, Iota, Lambda, Mu & Delta lineage mutations
    combining via slip-RNA-replication to form hybrids like "Deltamicron"
    that may render current COVID vaccines/monoclonals/medicines/pills no
    longer effective.

    Indeed, I am wonderfully hungry ( https://groups.google.com/g/sci.med.cardiology/c/6ZoE95d-VKc/m/14vVZoyOBgAJ
    ) and hope you, Michael, also have a healthy appetite too.

    So how are you ?

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  • From HeartDoc Andrew@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jul 1 15:37:48 2024
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    (Reform) 07/01/24 Again not a LoosePeeledDisgustingMemoryQuackBigot...

    https://groups.google.com/g/sci.med.cardiology/c/Ai33hw5PINI/m/wytVpY68MwAJ

    Instead be "woke" to the sin of racial prejudice:

    https://tinyurl.com/JesusIsWoke (i.e. not a Nazi bigot) *and* risen!!!

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  • From HeartDoc Andrew@21:1/5 to Michael Ejercito on Mon Jul 1 22:59:58 2024
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    Michael Ejercito wrote:
    HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
    Michael Ejercito wrote:
    https://www.reddit.com/r/LockdownSkepticism/comments/1dsoods/uk_telegraph_this_is_the_real_conspiracy_of/


    Here are three articles on the same subject, from the UK Telegraph, on >>>three successive days. All three point out the same thing: that, in this >>>frenzied election season - we are, what, 3 days away from the election >>>date? 4 days? Can't remember, I care so much little - no-one is >>>mentioning COVID, lockdowns, vaccines, vaccine mandates.

    This is the real conspiracy of silence in the election (28th June, >>>Francis Hoar)

    The Conservatives are paying the terrible price for Britain's lockdown >>>amnesia (29th June, Daniel Hannan)

    This is the one glaring omission from this election's endless debates >>>(30th June, Liam Halligan)

    Francis Hoar KC is a barrister with a long involvement in anti-lockdown >>>activism. I vividly remember seeing him at the corner of Whitehall and >>>Parliament Square during an anti-lockdown protest, in full barrister's >>>dress, talking animatedly with a group of people who'd gathered around >>>him. (I joined in the discussion, of course!)

    Daniel Hannan (now Lord Hannan, I think?) is a familiar figure in >>>Brexiter politics. I can't remember the details of his involvement with >>>Nigel Farage: was he a financier of the Brexit movement, or of the
    Brexit Party?

    Liam Halligan I know little about: but it seems he interviewed Jay >>>Bhattacharya in 2021.

    All three are well worth reading. Choice quotes:

    Hoar:

    ...the ability to exercise democratic choice matters little if the
    public is unable to give its verdict on the sitting government’s most >>>far-reaching decision. We can only hope that time and experience will >>>teach us the lessons that will not be learned in this election about
    this catastrophic error.

    Hannan:

    The paradox of the current election is that both Johnson and Sunak were >>>more sceptical of the lockdown than most of those who now blame them for >>>it. Recall that Keir Starmer opposed the loosening of restrictions, and >>>even wanted them reimposed at the end of 2021.

    Halligan:

    The impact of lockdown and the question of how the UK should respond to >>>the next pandemic remain at the heart of the nation’s collective >>>psyche.The fact this highly controversial policy has barely been >>>mentioned during the subsequent general election campaign, despite >>>compelling evidence countless mistakes were made, is yet another reason >>>public faith in politics is so seriously diminished.

    The depressing thing is that while it's good to read publicly-expressed >>>opinions which agree with my own - that this election is almost entirely >>>meaningless - none of the three authors presents any possible solution. >>>Except, of course, that "we" (meaning the public sphere) should start >>>talking about it. Which is extremely unlikely to happen, either in the 3 >>>(4?) days remaining before the polling booths open, or during the idle, >>>2-month-long, Parliament-on-holiday orgy of Labour triumphalism which is >>>likely to follow.

    Hannan does, rightly, give credit to Nigel Farage for being the only >>>candidate to mention lockdown: which Farage has, in scathing tones. >>>Hannan doesn't go this far, or even hint at it (in spite of some bad >>>blood between the two of them which I seem to remember), but Farage's >>>speeches on lockdown seem to me to be a bit opportunistic. Though Hannan >>>does make me think better of Farage by pointing out that, though he was >>>in favour of the first lockdown, he was passionately against the second >>>and the third (I'd forgotten that).

    My own view is that I'm glad that Farage is stirring up "trouble" by >>>trying to bring lockdown onto the agenda. I'm grateful to him for it, >>>though I've never been a political supporter of his (in fact, he was my >>>political opponent during Remain/Brexit). The flaw in this tactic of his >>>- for my desired purposes, not his - is that this is very likely to make >>>the 'proper' parties which we should vote for even less likely to take >>>the issue seriously: simply because it's Farage who raises it. We have >>>our own Farage Derangement Syndrome over here, like TDS over in the US. >>>(On the other hand, for Farage's own purposes, slamming lockdown will
    win him plenty of supporters down here in the general public).

    Which makes me wonder: is forcing the 'proper' political authorities and >>>parties to face up to the hideousness of what they did in 2020-24 a >>>realistic or feasible goal? Or should we write that off as impossible?
    Is the best we can hope for that political authority, based on ignoring >>>this elephant in the room, will just continue to wither away, become
    more and more farcical and divorced from reality? Until something >>>happens... it's a bit of a millennial, apocalyptic situation.

    I've read (and probably written) plenty of opinion that the "mainstream" >>>parties, after their complicity in lockdown, are finished, discredited. >>>Yet right here, in the UK, is depressing evidence that they are far from >>>finished: if they're dead, they certainly haven't stopped twitching yet. >>>There Is Still No Alternative, as Thatcher didn't quite say. The
    election is basically about the same old two parties.

    Except for Nigel Farage's Reform, who are unlikely to win many seats >>>(partly due to our weird, minority-party-hating electoral system). >>>Personally I don't agree with Reform on many issues, though I obviously >>>agree completely with them on lockdown. So I'm in the weird position of >>>not voting for them (which doesn't matter where I live, they'd never >>>win), but still hoping that they win a significant number of seats, just >>>to give them a voice to go on poking holes in the 'proper' parties' >>>bubble of delusion.

    In other words, I'm hoping for political instability: even though that >>>means more waiting, apocalyptically, for something, eventually, to >>>happen. Even though the prospect of political instability is pretty >>>horrrible. But I prefer it to the alternative: political 'stability', in >>>which everyone knows exactly what's happening, because everyone agrees >>>completely. I've lived through that, and I never want to again.

    In the interim, we are 100% prepared/protected in the "full armor of
    GOD" (Ephesians 6:11) which we put on as soon as we use Apostle Paul's >>secret (Philippians 4:12). Though masking is less protective, it helps
    us avoid the appearance of doing the evil of spreading airborne
    pathogens while there are people getting sick because of not being
    100% protected. It is written that we're to "abstain from **all** >>appearance of doing evil" (1 Thessalonians 5:22 w/**emphasis**).

    Meanwhile, the only *perfect* (Matt 5:47-8 ) way to eradicate the
    COVID-19 virus, thereby saving lives, in the UK & elsewhere is by
    rapidly (i.e. use the "Rapid COVID-19 Test" ) finding out at any given >>moment, including even while on-line, who among us are unwittingly >>contagious (i.e pre-symptomatic or asymptomatic) in order to
    "convince it forward" (John 15:12) for them to call their doctor and >>self-quarantine per their doctor in hopes of stopping this pandemic.
    Thus, we're hoping for the best while preparing for the worse-case
    scenario of the Alpha lineage mutations and others like the Omicron,
    Gamma, Beta, Epsilon, Iota, Lambda, Mu & Delta lineage mutations
    combining via slip-RNA-replication to form hybrids like "Deltamicron"
    that may render current COVID vaccines/monoclonals/medicines/pills no >>longer effective.

    Indeed, I am wonderfully hungry ( >>https://groups.google.com/g/sci.med.cardiology/c/6ZoE95d-VKc/m/14vVZoyOBgAJ >>) and hope you, Michael, also have a healthy appetite too.

    So how are you ?

    I am wonderfully hungry!

    While wonderfully hungry in the Holy Spirit, Who causes (Deuteronomy
    8:3) us to hunger, I note that you, Michael, are rapture ready (Luke
    17:37 means no COVID just as eagles circling over their food have no
    COVID) and pray (2 Chronicles 7:14) that our Everlasting (Isaiah 9:6)
    Father in Heaven continues to give us "much more" (Luke 11:13) Holy
    Spirit (Galatians 5:22-23) so that we'd have much more of His Help to
    always say/write that we're "wonderfully hungry" in **all** ways
    including especially caring to "convince it forward" (John 15:12) with
    all glory (Psalm112:1) to GOD (aka HaShem, Elohim, Abba, DEO), in
    the name (John 16:23) of LORD Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Amen.

    Laus DEO !

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  • From HeartDoc Andrew@21:1/5 to Michael Ejercito on Mon Jul 1 23:51:42 2024
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    Michael Ejercito wrote:
    HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
    Michael Ejercito wrote:
    HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
    Michael Ejercito wrote:
    https://www.reddit.com/r/LockdownSkepticism/comments/1dsoods/uk_telegraph_this_is_the_real_conspiracy_of/


    Here are three articles on the same subject, from the UK Telegraph, on >>>>>three successive days. All three point out the same thing: that, in this >>>>>frenzied election season - we are, what, 3 days away from the election >>>>>date? 4 days? Can't remember, I care so much little - no-one is >>>>>mentioning COVID, lockdowns, vaccines, vaccine mandates.

    This is the real conspiracy of silence in the election (28th June, >>>>>Francis Hoar)

    The Conservatives are paying the terrible price for Britain's lockdown >>>>>amnesia (29th June, Daniel Hannan)

    This is the one glaring omission from this election's endless debates >>>>>(30th June, Liam Halligan)

    Francis Hoar KC is a barrister with a long involvement in anti-lockdown >>>>>activism. I vividly remember seeing him at the corner of Whitehall and >>>>>Parliament Square during an anti-lockdown protest, in full barrister's >>>>>dress, talking animatedly with a group of people who'd gathered around >>>>>him. (I joined in the discussion, of course!)

    Daniel Hannan (now Lord Hannan, I think?) is a familiar figure in >>>>>Brexiter politics. I can't remember the details of his involvement with >>>>>Nigel Farage: was he a financier of the Brexit movement, or of the >>>>>Brexit Party?

    Liam Halligan I know little about: but it seems he interviewed Jay >>>>>Bhattacharya in 2021.

    All three are well worth reading. Choice quotes:

    Hoar:

    ...the ability to exercise democratic choice matters little if the >>>>>public is unable to give its verdict on the sitting government’s most >>>>>far-reaching decision. We can only hope that time and experience will >>>>>teach us the lessons that will not be learned in this election about >>>>>this catastrophic error.

    Hannan:

    The paradox of the current election is that both Johnson and Sunak were >>>>>more sceptical of the lockdown than most of those who now blame them for >>>>>it. Recall that Keir Starmer opposed the loosening of restrictions, and >>>>>even wanted them reimposed at the end of 2021.

    Halligan:

    The impact of lockdown and the question of how the UK should respond to >>>>>the next pandemic remain at the heart of the nation’s collective >>>>>psyche.The fact this highly controversial policy has barely been >>>>>mentioned during the subsequent general election campaign, despite >>>>>compelling evidence countless mistakes were made, is yet another reason >>>>>public faith in politics is so seriously diminished.

    The depressing thing is that while it's good to read publicly-expressed >>>>>opinions which agree with my own - that this election is almost entirely >>>>>meaningless - none of the three authors presents any possible solution. >>>>>Except, of course, that "we" (meaning the public sphere) should start >>>>>talking about it. Which is extremely unlikely to happen, either in the 3 >>>>>(4?) days remaining before the polling booths open, or during the idle, >>>>>2-month-long, Parliament-on-holiday orgy of Labour triumphalism which is >>>>>likely to follow.

    Hannan does, rightly, give credit to Nigel Farage for being the only >>>>>candidate to mention lockdown: which Farage has, in scathing tones. >>>>>Hannan doesn't go this far, or even hint at it (in spite of some bad >>>>>blood between the two of them which I seem to remember), but Farage's >>>>>speeches on lockdown seem to me to be a bit opportunistic. Though Hannan >>>>>does make me think better of Farage by pointing out that, though he was >>>>>in favour of the first lockdown, he was passionately against the second >>>>>and the third (I'd forgotten that).

    My own view is that I'm glad that Farage is stirring up "trouble" by >>>>>trying to bring lockdown onto the agenda. I'm grateful to him for it, >>>>>though I've never been a political supporter of his (in fact, he was my >>>>>political opponent during Remain/Brexit). The flaw in this tactic of his >>>>>- for my desired purposes, not his - is that this is very likely to make >>>>>the 'proper' parties which we should vote for even less likely to take >>>>>the issue seriously: simply because it's Farage who raises it. We have >>>>>our own Farage Derangement Syndrome over here, like TDS over in the US. >>>>>(On the other hand, for Farage's own purposes, slamming lockdown will >>>>>win him plenty of supporters down here in the general public).

    Which makes me wonder: is forcing the 'proper' political authorities and >>>>>parties to face up to the hideousness of what they did in 2020-24 a >>>>>realistic or feasible goal? Or should we write that off as impossible? >>>>>Is the best we can hope for that political authority, based on ignoring >>>>>this elephant in the room, will just continue to wither away, become >>>>>more and more farcical and divorced from reality? Until something >>>>>happens... it's a bit of a millennial, apocalyptic situation.

    I've read (and probably written) plenty of opinion that the "mainstream" >>>>>parties, after their complicity in lockdown, are finished, discredited. >>>>>Yet right here, in the UK, is depressing evidence that they are far from >>>>>finished: if they're dead, they certainly haven't stopped twitching yet. >>>>>There Is Still No Alternative, as Thatcher didn't quite say. The >>>>>election is basically about the same old two parties.

    Except for Nigel Farage's Reform, who are unlikely to win many seats >>>>>(partly due to our weird, minority-party-hating electoral system). >>>>>Personally I don't agree with Reform on many issues, though I obviously >>>>>agree completely with them on lockdown. So I'm in the weird position of >>>>>not voting for them (which doesn't matter where I live, they'd never >>>>>win), but still hoping that they win a significant number of seats, just >>>>>to give them a voice to go on poking holes in the 'proper' parties' >>>>>bubble of delusion.

    In other words, I'm hoping for political instability: even though that >>>>>means more waiting, apocalyptically, for something, eventually, to >>>>>happen. Even though the prospect of political instability is pretty >>>>>horrrible. But I prefer it to the alternative: political 'stability', in >>>>>which everyone knows exactly what's happening, because everyone agrees >>>>>completely. I've lived through that, and I never want to again.

    In the interim, we are 100% prepared/protected in the "full armor of >>>>GOD" (Ephesians 6:11) which we put on as soon as we use Apostle Paul's >>>>secret (Philippians 4:12). Though masking is less protective, it helps >>>>us avoid the appearance of doing the evil of spreading airborne >>>>pathogens while there are people getting sick because of not being
    100% protected. It is written that we're to "abstain from **all** >>>>appearance of doing evil" (1 Thessalonians 5:22 w/**emphasis**).

    Meanwhile, the only *perfect* (Matt 5:47-8 ) way to eradicate the >>>>COVID-19 virus, thereby saving lives, in the UK & elsewhere is by >>>>rapidly (i.e. use the "Rapid COVID-19 Test" ) finding out at any given >>>>moment, including even while on-line, who among us are unwittingly >>>>contagious (i.e pre-symptomatic or asymptomatic) in order to
    "convince it forward" (John 15:12) for them to call their doctor and >>>>self-quarantine per their doctor in hopes of stopping this pandemic. >>>>Thus, we're hoping for the best while preparing for the worse-case >>>>scenario of the Alpha lineage mutations and others like the Omicron, >>>>Gamma, Beta, Epsilon, Iota, Lambda, Mu & Delta lineage mutations >>>>combining via slip-RNA-replication to form hybrids like "Deltamicron" >>>>that may render current COVID vaccines/monoclonals/medicines/pills no >>>>longer effective.

    Indeed, I am wonderfully hungry ( >>>>https://groups.google.com/g/sci.med.cardiology/c/6ZoE95d-VKc/m/14vVZoyOBgAJ >>>>) and hope you, Michael, also have a healthy appetite too.

    So how are you ?

    I am wonderfully hungry!

    While wonderfully hungry in the Holy Spirit, Who causes (Deuteronomy
    8:3) us to hunger, I note that you, Michael, are rapture ready (Luke
    17:37 means no COVID just as eagles circling over their food have no
    COVID) and pray (2 Chronicles 7:14) that our Everlasting (Isaiah 9:6) >>Father in Heaven continues to give us "much more" (Luke 11:13) Holy
    Spirit (Galatians 5:22-23) so that we'd have much more of His Help to >>always say/write that we're "wonderfully hungry" in **all** ways
    including especially caring to "convince it forward" (John 15:12) with
    all glory (Psalm112:1) to GOD (aka HaShem, Elohim, Abba, DEO), in
    the name (John 16:23) of LORD Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Amen.

    Laus DEO !

    Source:
    https://narkive.com/fM46obJE.6

    Thank you for noting that I have no COVID.

    Just please do likewise as our LORD Jesus & I have done for you,
    Michael, and http://go.WDJW.net/ConvinceItForward (John 15:12) to be https://bit.ly/Wonderfully_Hungrier more blessed by GOD right now
    (Luke 6:21a).

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  • From HeartDoc Andrew@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jul 3 13:56:04 2024
    XPost: alt.bible.prophecy, uk.legal, uk.politics.misc
    XPost: alt.christnet.christianlife

    <Reform> 07/03/24 Disgusting/KK again vainjangling (1 Tim 1:6) ...

    https://narkive.com/GHNKXeiE.10

    Link to post explicating vainjangling by the eternally condemned: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/O23NguTslhI/-xLGqnNjAAAJ

    "Like a moth to flame, the eternally condemned tragically return to be
    ever more cursed by GOD."

    Behold in wide-eyed wonder and amazement at the continued fulfillment
    of this prophecy as clearly demonstrated within the following USENET
    threads:

    (1) Link to thread titled "LORD Jesus Christ of Nazareth is our #1
    Example of being wonderfully hungry;"

    https://groups.google.com/g/sci.med.cardiology/c/_iVmOb7q3_Q/m/E8L7TNNtAgAJ

    (2) Link to thread titled "Being wonderfully hungry;"

    https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/sci.med.cardiology/uCPb3ldOv5M

    (3) Link to thread titled "A very very very simple definition of sin;"

    https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.bible.prophecy/xunFWhan_AM

    (4) Link to thread titled "The LORD says 'Blessed are you who hunger
    now;'"

    https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.bible.prophecy/e4sW8dr44rM

    (5) Link to thread titled "Being wonderfully hungry like LORD Jesus;"

    https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/xPY1Uzl-ZNk/QeKLDNCpCwAJ

    ... for the continued benefit (Romans 8:28) of those of us who are http://WonderfullyHungry.org like GOD ( http://bit.ly/Lk2442 ) with
    all glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to the LORD.

    Source: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/O23NguTslhI/pIZcsOCJBwAJ

    Laus DEO !

    While wonderfully hungry ( http://bit.ly/Philippians4_12 ) in the Holy
    Spirit, Who causes (Deuteronomy 8:3) me to hunger right now (Luke
    6:21a), I pray (2 Chronicles 7:14) that GOD continues to curse
    (Jeremiah 17:5) you, who are eternally condemned (Mark 3:29), more
    than ever in the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Amen.

    Laus DEO ! ! !

    Bottom line: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/O23NguTslhI/h5lE-mr0DAAJ

    <begin trichotomy>

    (1) Born-again (John 3:3 & 5) humans - Folks who have GOD's Help (i.e.
    Holy Spirit) to stop (John 5:14) sinning by being
    http://WonderfullyHungry.org (Philippians 4:12) **but** are still
    able to choose via their own "free will" to be instead http://bit.ly/terribly_hungry (Genesis 25:32) trapped in the
    entangling (Hebrews 12:1) deadly (i.e. killed immortals Adam&Eve) sin
    of gluttony (Proverbs 23:2).

    (2) Eternally condemned (Mark 3:29) humans - Folks who will never have
    GOD's Help (i.e. Holy Spirit) to stop being
    http://bit.ly/terribly_hungry (2 Kings 6:29) as evident by their
    constant vainjangling (1 Timothy 1:6) about everything except how to
    stop (John 5:14) sinning.

    (3) Perishing humans - The remaining folks who may possibly (Matthew
    19:26) become born-again (John 3:3 & 5) as new (2 Corinthians 5:17)
    creatures in Christ.

    <end trichotomy>

    Suggested further reading:
    http://T3WiJ.com

    +++

    someone eternally condemned & ever more cursed by GOD wrote:
    HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

    Subject: The LORD says "Blessed are you who hunger now ..."

    Source: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/e4sW8dr44rM/NSkTJxvFBAAJ

    Shame on andrew, look at his red face.

    LIE.

    The color of my face in **not** visible here on USENET nor is the
    color of my face red for those who can see me.

    He is trying to pull a fast one. His scripture bit is found among these:

    '14 Bible verses about Spiritual Hunger'

    Such are the lies coming from the lying pens of the http://bit.ly/terribly_hungry (Genesis 25:32) commentators.

    That which is "spiritual" is independent of time so that there
    would've been no reference to "now."

    Therefore, the LORD is referring to physical hunger here instead of
    the spiritual "hunger and thirst for righteousness" elsewhere in
    Scripture.

    Indeed, physical hunger can **not** coexist with physical thirst
    because the latter results in the loss of saliva needed for physical
    hunger.

    It is when we hunger for food "now" (Luke 6:21a) that we are able to
    eat food "now."

    No such time constraints exist for "spiritual hunger."

    Moreover, the perspective of Luke 6:21a through the eyes of a
    physician (i.e. Dr. Luke) would be logically expected to be physical
    instead of spiritual.

    All glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD for His compelling you
    to unwittingly demonstrate your ever worsening cognitive condition
    which is tragically a consequence of His cursing (Jeremiah 17:5) you
    more than ever.

    Laus DEO !

    +++

    someone eternally condemned & ever more cursed by GOD perseverated:
    (in a vain attempt to refute posts about being wonderfully hungry)

    Psalms
    81:10 I am the LORD thy God, which brought thee out of the land of Egypt: >open thy mouth wide, and I will fill it.

    Indeed, receiving a mouthful (Psalm 81:10) of manna from GOD will only
    make His http://WDJW.great-site.net/Redeemed want even more, so that
    we're even http://bit.ly/wonderfully_hungrier with all glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD.

    Laus DEO !

    Proverbs
    13:25 The righteous has enough to satisfy his appetite, But the stomach of >the wicked is in need.

    Indeed, the righteous know to be satisfied (Luke 6:21a) with an omer
    (Exodus 16:16) of manna, while the wicked need (Proverbs 13:25) this
    knowledge as evident by their eating until they are full (i.e.
    satiated).

    Joel
    2:26 And ye shall eat in plenty, and be satisfied, and praise the name of
    the LORD your God, that hath dealt wondrously with you: and my
    people shall never be ashamed.

    Indeed, an omer (32 ounces per Revelation 6:6) of manna is plenty
    (Joel 2:26) with all glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD and to
    the shame of you, who are eternally (Mark 3:29) condemned.

    Laus DEO ! !

    Psalms
    107 For he satisfies the thirsty and fills the hungry with good things.

    Indeed, being filled (Psalm 107:9) with an omer (Exodus 16:16) of
    manna is a Wonderful (Isaiah 9:6) thing while being satiated (i.e.
    full) is evil.

    Acts
    14:17 "Yet he did not leave himself without witness, for he did good by >giving you rains from heaven and fruitful seasons, satisfying
    your hearts with food and gladness."

    In the interim, you, who are eternally (Mark 3:29) condemned, will
    never be satisfied (Acts 14:17) because you are ever more cursed
    (Jeremiah 17:5) by GOD.

    Source: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/uCPb3ldOv5M/KgM8NFKuAQAJ

    +++

    someone eternally condemned & ever more cursed by GOD perseverated:
    HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

    Subject: a very very very simple definition of sin ...

    Source: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/mXmFD9kIocc/y8GNXircBQAJ

    Does andrew's "definition" agree with scripture? Let's see in 1 John:

    Actually, sin is **not** defined in 1 John 1:8-10

    John wrote this to christians. The greek grammer (sic) speaks of an ongoing >> status. He includes himself in that status.

    John was a Jew instead of a Greek so there is really no reason to
    think that Greek grammar is relevant here.

    1:8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is
    not in us.

    1:9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, >> and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

    1:10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is >> not in us.

    John also wrote earlier at John 5:14 that LORD Jesus commands:

    "Now stop sinning or something worse may happen to you." (John 5:14)

    And, indeed, your being eternally condemned (Mark 3:29) & ever more
    cursed (Jeremiah 17:5) by GOD, as evident by your ever worsening
    cognitive deficits, is really worse.

    Now again, here's how to really stop sinning as LORD Jesus commands
    (John 5:14):

    https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/2-Qpn-o81J4/ldGubKEZAgAJ

    While wonderfully hungry ( http://bit.ly/Philippians4_12 ) in the Holy
    Spirit, Who causes (Deuteronomy 8:3) me to hunger right now (Luke
    6:21a), I again pray (2 Chronicles 7:14) that GOD continues to curse
    (Jeremiah 17:5) you, who are eternally condemned (Mark 3:29), more
    than ever in the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Amen.

    Laus DEO ! ! !

    Again, this is done in hopes of convincing all reading this to stop
    being http://bit.ly/terribly_hungry (2 Kings 6:29) where all are in
    danger of becoming eternally condemned (Mark 3:29) just as had
    happened to Ananias and Sapphira and more contemporaneously to Bob
    Pastorio.

    Again, the LORD did strike dead http://bit.ly/Bob_Pastorio on Fool's
    day just 9+ years ago:

    http://bobs-amanuensis.livejournal.com/8728.html

    Again, this is done ...

    http://bit.ly/HeartDocAndrew touts hunger (Luke 6:21a) with all glory
    ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD, Who causes us to hunger
    (Deuteronomy 8:3) when He blesses us right now (Luke 6:21a) thereby
    removing the http://WDJW.great-site.net/VAT from around the heart

    ...because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart,

    HeartDoc Andrew <><
    --
    Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
    Cardiologist with an http://bit.ly/EternalMedicalLicense
    2024 & upwards non-partisan candidate for U.S. President: http://WonderfullyHungry.org
    and author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
    http://bit.ly/HeartDocAndrewCare
    which is the only **healthy** cure for the U.S. healthcare crisis

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From HeartDoc Andrew@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jul 4 14:17:56 2024
    XPost: alt.bible.prophecy, uk.legal, uk.politics.misc
    XPost: alt.christnet.christianlife

    <Reform> 07/04/24 Loose/KK again vainjangling (1 Tim 1:6) ...

    https://narkive.com/GHNKXeiE.10

    Link to post explicating vainjangling by the eternally condemned: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/O23NguTslhI/-xLGqnNjAAAJ

    "Like a moth to flame, the eternally condemned tragically return to be
    ever more cursed by GOD."

    Behold in wide-eyed wonder and amazement at the continued fulfillment
    of this prophecy as clearly demonstrated within the following USENET
    threads:

    (1) Link to thread titled "LORD Jesus Christ of Nazareth is our #1
    Example of being wonderfully hungry;"

    https://groups.google.com/g/sci.med.cardiology/c/_iVmOb7q3_Q/m/E8L7TNNtAgAJ

    (2) Link to thread titled "Being wonderfully hungry;"

    https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/sci.med.cardiology/uCPb3ldOv5M

    (3) Link to thread titled "A very very very simple definition of sin;"

    https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.bible.prophecy/xunFWhan_AM

    (4) Link to thread titled "The LORD says 'Blessed are you who hunger
    now;'"

    https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.bible.prophecy/e4sW8dr44rM

    (5) Link to thread titled "Being wonderfully hungry like LORD Jesus;"

    https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/xPY1Uzl-ZNk/QeKLDNCpCwAJ

    ... for the continued benefit (Romans 8:28) of those of us who are http://WonderfullyHungry.org like GOD ( http://bit.ly/Lk2442 ) with
    all glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to the LORD.

    Source: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/O23NguTslhI/pIZcsOCJBwAJ

    Laus DEO !

    While wonderfully hungry ( http://bit.ly/Philippians4_12 ) in the Holy
    Spirit, Who causes (Deuteronomy 8:3) me to hunger right now (Luke
    6:21a), I pray (2 Chronicles 7:14) that GOD continues to curse
    (Jeremiah 17:5) you, who are eternally condemned (Mark 3:29), more
    than ever in the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Amen.

    Laus DEO ! ! !

    Bottom line: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/O23NguTslhI/h5lE-mr0DAAJ

    <begin trichotomy>

    (1) Born-again (John 3:3 & 5) humans - Folks who have GOD's Help (i.e.
    Holy Spirit) to stop (John 5:14) sinning by being
    http://WonderfullyHungry.org (Philippians 4:12) **but** are still
    able to choose via their own "free will" to be instead http://bit.ly/terribly_hungry (Genesis 25:32) trapped in the
    entangling (Hebrews 12:1) deadly (i.e. killed immortals Adam&Eve) sin
    of gluttony (Proverbs 23:2).

    (2) Eternally condemned (Mark 3:29) humans - Folks who will never have
    GOD's Help (i.e. Holy Spirit) to stop being
    http://bit.ly/terribly_hungry (2 Kings 6:29) as evident by their
    constant vainjangling (1 Timothy 1:6) about everything except how to
    stop (John 5:14) sinning.

    (3) Perishing humans - The remaining folks who may possibly (Matthew
    19:26) become born-again (John 3:3 & 5) as new (2 Corinthians 5:17)
    creatures in Christ.

    <end trichotomy>

    Suggested further reading:
    http://T3WiJ.com

    +++

    someone eternally condemned & ever more cursed by GOD wrote:
    HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

    Subject: The LORD says "Blessed are you who hunger now ..."

    Source: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/e4sW8dr44rM/NSkTJxvFBAAJ

    Shame on andrew, look at his red face.

    LIE.

    The color of my face in **not** visible here on USENET nor is the
    color of my face red for those who can see me.

    He is trying to pull a fast one. His scripture bit is found among these:

    '14 Bible verses about Spiritual Hunger'

    Such are the lies coming from the lying pens of the http://bit.ly/terribly_hungry (Genesis 25:32) commentators.

    That which is "spiritual" is independent of time so that there
    would've been no reference to "now."

    Therefore, the LORD is referring to physical hunger here instead of
    the spiritual "hunger and thirst for righteousness" elsewhere in
    Scripture.

    Indeed, physical hunger can **not** coexist with physical thirst
    because the latter results in the loss of saliva needed for physical
    hunger.

    It is when we hunger for food "now" (Luke 6:21a) that we are able to
    eat food "now."

    No such time constraints exist for "spiritual hunger."

    Moreover, the perspective of Luke 6:21a through the eyes of a
    physician (i.e. Dr. Luke) would be logically expected to be physical
    instead of spiritual.

    All glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD for His compelling you
    to unwittingly demonstrate your ever worsening cognitive condition
    which is tragically a consequence of His cursing (Jeremiah 17:5) you
    more than ever.

    Laus DEO !

    +++

    someone eternally condemned & ever more cursed by GOD perseverated:
    (in a vain attempt to refute posts about being wonderfully hungry)

    Psalms
    81:10 I am the LORD thy God, which brought thee out of the land of Egypt: >open thy mouth wide, and I will fill it.

    Indeed, receiving a mouthful (Psalm 81:10) of manna from GOD will only
    make His http://WDJW.great-site.net/Redeemed want even more, so that
    we're even http://bit.ly/wonderfully_hungrier with all glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD.

    Laus DEO !

    Proverbs
    13:25 The righteous has enough to satisfy his appetite, But the stomach of >the wicked is in need.

    Indeed, the righteous know to be satisfied (Luke 6:21a) with an omer
    (Exodus 16:16) of manna, while the wicked need (Proverbs 13:25) this
    knowledge as evident by their eating until they are full (i.e.
    satiated).

    Joel
    2:26 And ye shall eat in plenty, and be satisfied, and praise the name of
    the LORD your God, that hath dealt wondrously with you: and my
    people shall never be ashamed.

    Indeed, an omer (32 ounces per Revelation 6:6) of manna is plenty
    (Joel 2:26) with all glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD and to
    the shame of you, who are eternally (Mark 3:29) condemned.

    Laus DEO ! !

    Psalms
    107 For he satisfies the thirsty and fills the hungry with good things.

    Indeed, being filled (Psalm 107:9) with an omer (Exodus 16:16) of
    manna is a Wonderful (Isaiah 9:6) thing while being satiated (i.e.
    full) is evil.

    Acts
    14:17 "Yet he did not leave himself without witness, for he did good by >giving you rains from heaven and fruitful seasons, satisfying
    your hearts with food and gladness."

    In the interim, you, who are eternally (Mark 3:29) condemned, will
    never be satisfied (Acts 14:17) because you are ever more cursed
    (Jeremiah 17:5) by GOD.

    Source: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/uCPb3ldOv5M/KgM8NFKuAQAJ

    +++

    someone eternally condemned & ever more cursed by GOD perseverated:
    HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

    Subject: a very very very simple definition of sin ...

    Source: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/mXmFD9kIocc/y8GNXircBQAJ

    Does andrew's "definition" agree with scripture? Let's see in 1 John:

    Actually, sin is **not** defined in 1 John 1:8-10

    John wrote this to christians. The greek grammer (sic) speaks of an ongoing >> status. He includes himself in that status.

    John was a Jew instead of a Greek so there is really no reason to
    think that Greek grammar is relevant here.

    1:8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is
    not in us.

    1:9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, >> and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

    1:10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is >> not in us.

    John also wrote earlier at John 5:14 that LORD Jesus commands:

    "Now stop sinning or something worse may happen to you." (John 5:14)

    And, indeed, your being eternally condemned (Mark 3:29) & ever more
    cursed (Jeremiah 17:5) by GOD, as evident by your ever worsening
    cognitive deficits, is really worse.

    Now again, here's how to really stop sinning as LORD Jesus commands
    (John 5:14):

    https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/2-Qpn-o81J4/ldGubKEZAgAJ

    While wonderfully hungry ( http://bit.ly/Philippians4_12 ) in the Holy
    Spirit, Who causes (Deuteronomy 8:3) me to hunger right now (Luke
    6:21a), I again pray (2 Chronicles 7:14) that GOD continues to curse
    (Jeremiah 17:5) you, who are eternally condemned (Mark 3:29), more
    than ever in the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Amen.

    Laus DEO ! ! !

    Again, this is done in hopes of convincing all reading this to stop
    being http://bit.ly/terribly_hungry (2 Kings 6:29) where all are in
    danger of becoming eternally condemned (Mark 3:29) just as had
    happened to Ananias and Sapphira and more contemporaneously to Bob
    Pastorio.

    Again, the LORD did strike dead http://bit.ly/Bob_Pastorio on Fool's
    day just 9+ years ago:

    http://bobs-amanuensis.livejournal.com/8728.html

    Again, this is done ...

    http://bit.ly/HeartDocAndrew touts hunger (Luke 6:21a) with all glory
    ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD, Who causes us to hunger
    (Deuteronomy 8:3) when He blesses us right now (Luke 6:21a) thereby
    removing the http://WDJW.great-site.net/VAT from around the heart

    ...because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart,

    HeartDoc Andrew <><
    --
    Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
    Cardiologist with an http://bit.ly/EternalMedicalLicense
    2024 & upwards non-partisan candidate for U.S. President: http://WonderfullyHungry.org
    and author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
    http://bit.ly/HeartDocAndrewCare
    which is the only **healthy** cure for the U.S. healthcare crisis

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From HeartDoc Andrew@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jul 4 22:43:41 2024
    XPost: alt.bible.prophecy, uk.legal, uk.politics.misc
    XPost: alt.christnet.christianlife

    <Reform> 07/04/24 Loose/KK againX2 vainjangling (1 Tim 1:6) ...

    https://narkive.com/GHNKXeiE.10

    Link to post explicating vainjangling by the eternally condemned: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/O23NguTslhI/-xLGqnNjAAAJ

    "Like a moth to flame, the eternally condemned tragically return to be
    ever more cursed by GOD."

    Behold in wide-eyed wonder and amazement at the continued fulfillment
    of this prophecy as clearly demonstrated within the following USENET
    threads:

    (1) Link to thread titled "LORD Jesus Christ of Nazareth is our #1
    Example of being wonderfully hungry;"

    https://groups.google.com/g/sci.med.cardiology/c/_iVmOb7q3_Q/m/E8L7TNNtAgAJ

    (2) Link to thread titled "Being wonderfully hungry;"

    https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/sci.med.cardiology/uCPb3ldOv5M

    (3) Link to thread titled "A very very very simple definition of sin;"

    https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.bible.prophecy/xunFWhan_AM

    (4) Link to thread titled "The LORD says 'Blessed are you who hunger
    now;'"

    https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.bible.prophecy/e4sW8dr44rM

    (5) Link to thread titled "Being wonderfully hungry like LORD Jesus;"

    https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/xPY1Uzl-ZNk/QeKLDNCpCwAJ

    ... for the continued benefit (Romans 8:28) of those of us who are http://WonderfullyHungry.org like GOD ( http://bit.ly/Lk2442 ) with
    all glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to the LORD.

    Source: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/O23NguTslhI/pIZcsOCJBwAJ

    Laus DEO !

    While wonderfully hungry ( http://bit.ly/Philippians4_12 ) in the Holy
    Spirit, Who causes (Deuteronomy 8:3) me to hunger right now (Luke
    6:21a), I pray (2 Chronicles 7:14) that GOD continues to curse
    (Jeremiah 17:5) you, who are eternally condemned (Mark 3:29), more
    than ever in the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Amen.

    Laus DEO ! ! !

    Bottom line: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/O23NguTslhI/h5lE-mr0DAAJ

    <begin trichotomy>

    (1) Born-again (John 3:3 & 5) humans - Folks who have GOD's Help (i.e.
    Holy Spirit) to stop (John 5:14) sinning by being
    http://WonderfullyHungry.org (Philippians 4:12) **but** are still
    able to choose via their own "free will" to be instead http://bit.ly/terribly_hungry (Genesis 25:32) trapped in the
    entangling (Hebrews 12:1) deadly (i.e. killed immortals Adam&Eve) sin
    of gluttony (Proverbs 23:2).

    (2) Eternally condemned (Mark 3:29) humans - Folks who will never have
    GOD's Help (i.e. Holy Spirit) to stop being
    http://bit.ly/terribly_hungry (2 Kings 6:29) as evident by their
    constant vainjangling (1 Timothy 1:6) about everything except how to
    stop (John 5:14) sinning.

    (3) Perishing humans - The remaining folks who may possibly (Matthew
    19:26) become born-again (John 3:3 & 5) as new (2 Corinthians 5:17)
    creatures in Christ.

    <end trichotomy>

    Suggested further reading:
    http://T3WiJ.com

    +++

    someone eternally condemned & ever more cursed by GOD wrote:
    HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

    Subject: The LORD says "Blessed are you who hunger now ..."

    Source: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/e4sW8dr44rM/NSkTJxvFBAAJ

    Shame on andrew, look at his red face.

    LIE.

    The color of my face in **not** visible here on USENET nor is the
    color of my face red for those who can see me.

    He is trying to pull a fast one. His scripture bit is found among these:

    '14 Bible verses about Spiritual Hunger'

    Such are the lies coming from the lying pens of the http://bit.ly/terribly_hungry (Genesis 25:32) commentators.

    That which is "spiritual" is independent of time so that there
    would've been no reference to "now."

    Therefore, the LORD is referring to physical hunger here instead of
    the spiritual "hunger and thirst for righteousness" elsewhere in
    Scripture.

    Indeed, physical hunger can **not** coexist with physical thirst
    because the latter results in the loss of saliva needed for physical
    hunger.

    It is when we hunger for food "now" (Luke 6:21a) that we are able to
    eat food "now."

    No such time constraints exist for "spiritual hunger."

    Moreover, the perspective of Luke 6:21a through the eyes of a
    physician (i.e. Dr. Luke) would be logically expected to be physical
    instead of spiritual.

    All glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD for His compelling you
    to unwittingly demonstrate your ever worsening cognitive condition
    which is tragically a consequence of His cursing (Jeremiah 17:5) you
    more than ever.

    Laus DEO !

    +++

    someone eternally condemned & ever more cursed by GOD perseverated:
    (in a vain attempt to refute posts about being wonderfully hungry)

    Psalms
    81:10 I am the LORD thy God, which brought thee out of the land of Egypt: >open thy mouth wide, and I will fill it.

    Indeed, receiving a mouthful (Psalm 81:10) of manna from GOD will only
    make His http://WDJW.great-site.net/Redeemed want even more, so that
    we're even http://bit.ly/wonderfully_hungrier with all glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD.

    Laus DEO !

    Proverbs
    13:25 The righteous has enough to satisfy his appetite, But the stomach of >the wicked is in need.

    Indeed, the righteous know to be satisfied (Luke 6:21a) with an omer
    (Exodus 16:16) of manna, while the wicked need (Proverbs 13:25) this
    knowledge as evident by their eating until they are full (i.e.
    satiated).

    Joel
    2:26 And ye shall eat in plenty, and be satisfied, and praise the name of
    the LORD your God, that hath dealt wondrously with you: and my
    people shall never be ashamed.

    Indeed, an omer (32 ounces per Revelation 6:6) of manna is plenty
    (Joel 2:26) with all glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD and to
    the shame of you, who are eternally (Mark 3:29) condemned.

    Laus DEO ! !

    Psalms
    107 For he satisfies the thirsty and fills the hungry with good things.

    Indeed, being filled (Psalm 107:9) with an omer (Exodus 16:16) of
    manna is a Wonderful (Isaiah 9:6) thing while being satiated (i.e.
    full) is evil.

    Acts
    14:17 "Yet he did not leave himself without witness, for he did good by >giving you rains from heaven and fruitful seasons, satisfying
    your hearts with food and gladness."

    In the interim, you, who are eternally (Mark 3:29) condemned, will
    never be satisfied (Acts 14:17) because you are ever more cursed
    (Jeremiah 17:5) by GOD.

    Source: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/uCPb3ldOv5M/KgM8NFKuAQAJ

    +++

    someone eternally condemned & ever more cursed by GOD perseverated:
    HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

    Subject: a very very very simple definition of sin ...

    Source: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/mXmFD9kIocc/y8GNXircBQAJ

    Does andrew's "definition" agree with scripture? Let's see in 1 John:

    Actually, sin is **not** defined in 1 John 1:8-10

    John wrote this to christians. The greek grammer (sic) speaks of an ongoing >> status. He includes himself in that status.

    John was a Jew instead of a Greek so there is really no reason to
    think that Greek grammar is relevant here.

    1:8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is
    not in us.

    1:9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, >> and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

    1:10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is >> not in us.

    John also wrote earlier at John 5:14 that LORD Jesus commands:

    "Now stop sinning or something worse may happen to you." (John 5:14)

    And, indeed, your being eternally condemned (Mark 3:29) & ever more
    cursed (Jeremiah 17:5) by GOD, as evident by your ever worsening
    cognitive deficits, is really worse.

    Now again, here's how to really stop sinning as LORD Jesus commands
    (John 5:14):

    https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/2-Qpn-o81J4/ldGubKEZAgAJ

    While wonderfully hungry ( http://bit.ly/Philippians4_12 ) in the Holy
    Spirit, Who causes (Deuteronomy 8:3) me to hunger right now (Luke
    6:21a), I again pray (2 Chronicles 7:14) that GOD continues to curse
    (Jeremiah 17:5) you, who are eternally condemned (Mark 3:29), more
    than ever in the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Amen.

    Laus DEO ! ! !

    Again, this is done in hopes of convincing all reading this to stop
    being http://bit.ly/terribly_hungry (2 Kings 6:29) where all are in
    danger of becoming eternally condemned (Mark 3:29) just as had
    happened to Ananias and Sapphira and more contemporaneously to Bob
    Pastorio.

    Again, the LORD did strike dead http://bit.ly/Bob_Pastorio on Fool's
    day just 9+ years ago:

    http://bobs-amanuensis.livejournal.com/8728.html

    Again, this is done ...

    http://bit.ly/HeartDocAndrew touts hunger (Luke 6:21a) with all glory
    ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD, Who causes us to hunger
    (Deuteronomy 8:3) when He blesses us right now (Luke 6:21a) thereby
    removing the http://WDJW.great-site.net/VAT from around the heart

    ...because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart,

    HeartDoc Andrew <><
    --
    Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
    Cardiologist with an http://bit.ly/EternalMedicalLicense
    2024 & upwards non-partisan candidate for U.S. President: http://WonderfullyHungry.org
    and author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
    http://bit.ly/HeartDocAndrewCare
    which is the only **healthy** cure for the U.S. healthcare crisis

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    (Reform) 07/04/24 Again praying w/ Michael here ...

    https://narkive.com/iskwPMPM.7

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