• Some of Our Top Schools Are Embarrassing Themselves Over Covid Why are

    From Michael Ejercito@21:1/5 to All on Sun Oct 6 09:11:09 2024
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    Some of Our Top Schools Are Embarrassing Themselves Over Covid
    Why are places like Stanford and Johns Hopkins hosting gatherings of
    well-known coronavirus cranks?

    Gregg Gonsalves
    Share



    Stanford University President Jonathan Levin.
    Stanford University president Jonathan Levin

    (Justin Sullivan / Getty Images)
    Today, Stanford University is holding an all-day gathering on the Covid pandemic, with its new president making opening remarks. It’s the second
    such meeting at a prestigious university in recent months, after Johns
    Hopkins hosted a “symposium on health policy” in September. They may
    seem fine on the surface, but both events should be a source of
    embarrassment for the institutions involved. (I have a personal stake in
    the former gathering: I’m spending my time this fall at Stanford with a
    group of wonderful, truly talented researchers, who I hope do not get
    sprayed with the stink of this misbegotten affair.)

    The video player is currently playing an ad.




    While the organization and funding for these two meetings isn’t
    explicitly linked, the cast of characters at both are eerily similar.
    They each feature a collection of well-known Covid contrarians: those
    who, in the early days of the pandemic thought we should “let ’er rip” and get as many people infected as possible, with a performative nod to protecting the vulnerable; suggested that vaccine and mask mandates were somehow akin to Nazi totalitarianism; told us not to worry about
    variants (“variants, schmariants,” as one of them remarked months before Delta and Omicron blasted their way through the US); and said we’d have
    herd immunity by April 2021.

    If you want just one piece of evidence about the kind of cranks we’re
    talking about, consider this: A late addition to the Stanford meeting is
    a senior editor of the Epoch Times, a far-right publication that not
    only dabbles in Covid conspiracies but is a frequent purveyor of climate
    change denialism.

    While the organizers have tried to add a few reasonable voices to the
    meeting, it doesn’t change the overall thrust of these gatherings. As
    former Texas governor Ann Richards said, “You can put lipstick and
    earrings on a hog and call it Monique, but it’s still a pig.”

    Health reporters like Michael Hiltzik at the Los Angeles Times blew the
    whistle on the Stanford conference in mid-September, and others who have focused on debunking the pseudoscience of this crew have written about
    the meetings on both coasts. The faculty at both institutions who are
    pushed for and are behind these convocations have defended them on the
    grounds of academic freedom—a defense that, in our current era of
    freakouts over “cancel culture,” neither Stanford or Hopkins would have
    had an easy time overcoming. Chalk one up to the contrarians for putting
    these schools in an impossible situation—though that still does not
    explain why Stanford’s president feels the need to personally show up today.

    The architects of these meetings come with bags and bags of right-wing
    funding, some of it laundered through think tanks and other
    institutions. They have met with Trump officials in the White House and
    guided Florida Governor Ron DeSantis on Covid-19 policy. Some of them
    even got a shout-out from Bret Stephens at The New York Times last week.

    They whine on and on about how terribly they’ve been treated, but, far
    from being persecuted, they are celebrated on the right, even if the
    mainstream members of their professions have, time and time again,
    considered their ideas and roundly rejected them on their merits.

    My question is: Why host these meetings now and in these venues?

    Some have suggested this is about “auditioning” for the next Trump administration as much as it is trying to rewrite the history of the
    pandemic. Both are in part probably true. But if you zoom out and think
    about these meetings in the context of the right’s war on higher
    education, I believe the purpose becomes clearer.

    These Covid contrarians—who have found little support for their views
    among their peers—have decided that the science has been turned into “a dogmatic tool of oppression” for rejecting them. In their minds they are Galileos against the church, and now they are tilting their fury against
    the institutions themselves. This tack is of course reminiscent of the right’s attacks on the universities as bastions of woke, left-wing
    ideology, which either need to be reformed (by hiring more conservative faculty) or gutted and rebuilt to their liking (e.g., New College of
    Florida).

    In this light, these two meetings are about establishing a
    beachhead—building credibility in what many of the organizers would
    consider the liberal bastions of academia. If you cannot convince your colleagues of the worth of your arguments, then you can cry out that
    you’re being discriminated against for simply having “differing views.” But things don’t work like that in science: we don’t teach intelligent design alongside evolution, or alternative theories of the cause of
    AIDS. Supporters of those discredited ideas would say we need to “teach
    the controversy” and not be dogmatic, but there is no controversy to be
    had: the preponderance of the evidence supports evolution and HIV as the
    cause of AIDS. Similarly, many of the Covid contrarians’ favorite claims
    have withered in the sunlight of scientific scrutiny.

    Current Issue
    Cover of October 2024 Issue
    October 2024 Issue
    But just as the Federalist Society has established influence over law
    schools and the judiciary, the Covid contrarians and their supporters
    would like to do the same for medicine and public health, by
    mainstreaming their views—both in academic settings and then in public policy—by sheer brute force. They won’t give up, and they have the money and resources to continue their campaigns. Should former president Trump
    regain the White House, their fortunes will rise and these threats to
    academic integrity, and to the public health itself (through adoption of
    their views in practice) will go into overdrive.

    And for anyone who thinks this is all academic, in mid-September, the
    surgeon general of Florida recommended against the use of mRNA Covid
    vaccines, just as we’re heading into respiratory virus season,
    endangering the lives of the residents of the state with quackery and pseudoscience. Of course, it’s the same Covid contrarians who have
    organized these meetings, who have been advising the DeSantis
    administration for several years now on pandemic policy. Shame on them.

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  • From HeartDoc Andrew@21:1/5 to Michael Ejercito on Sun Oct 6 17:41:52 2024
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    Michael Ejercito wrote:

    https://www.reddit.com/r/LockdownSkepticism/comments/1fweoqu/some_of_our_top_schools_are_embarrassing/


    Some of Our Top Schools Are Embarrassing Themselves Over Covid
    Why are places like Stanford and Johns Hopkins hosting gatherings of >well-known coronavirus cranks?

    Gregg Gonsalves
    Share



    Stanford University President Jonathan Levin.
    Stanford University president Jonathan Levin

    (Justin Sullivan / Getty Images)
    Today, Stanford University is holding an all-day gathering on the Covid >pandemic, with its new president making opening remarks. Its the second
    such meeting at a prestigious university in recent months, after Johns >Hopkins hosted a symposium on health policy in September. They may
    seem fine on the surface, but both events should be a source of
    embarrassment for the institutions involved. (I have a personal stake in
    the former gathering: Im spending my time this fall at Stanford with a
    group of wonderful, truly talented researchers, who I hope do not get
    sprayed with the stink of this misbegotten affair.)

    The video player is currently playing an ad.




    While the organization and funding for these two meetings isnt
    explicitly linked, the cast of characters at both are eerily similar.
    They each feature a collection of well-known Covid contrarians: those
    who, in the early days of the pandemic thought we should let er rip
    and get as many people infected as possible, with a performative nod to >protecting the vulnerable; suggested that vaccine and mask mandates were >somehow akin to Nazi totalitarianism; told us not to worry about
    variants (variants, schmariants, as one of them remarked months before >Delta and Omicron blasted their way through the US); and said wed have
    herd immunity by April 2021.

    If you want just one piece of evidence about the kind of cranks were
    talking about, consider this: A late addition to the Stanford meeting is
    a senior editor of the Epoch Times, a far-right publication that not
    only dabbles in Covid conspiracies but is a frequent purveyor of climate >change denialism.

    While the organizers have tried to add a few reasonable voices to the >meeting, it doesnt change the overall thrust of these gatherings. As
    former Texas governor Ann Richards said, You can put lipstick and
    earrings on a hog and call it Monique, but its still a pig.

    Health reporters like Michael Hiltzik at the Los Angeles Times blew the >whistle on the Stanford conference in mid-September, and others who have >focused on debunking the pseudoscience of this crew have written about
    the meetings on both coasts. The faculty at both institutions who are
    pushed for and are behind these convocations have defended them on the >grounds of academic freedoma defense that, in our current era of
    freakouts over cancel culture, neither Stanford or Hopkins would have
    had an easy time overcoming. Chalk one up to the contrarians for putting >these schools in an impossible situationthough that still does not
    explain why Stanfords president feels the need to personally show up today.

    The architects of these meetings come with bags and bags of right-wing >funding, some of it laundered through think tanks and other
    institutions. They have met with Trump officials in the White House and >guided Florida Governor Ron DeSantis on Covid-19 policy. Some of them
    even got a shout-out from Bret Stephens at The New York Times last week.

    They whine on and on about how terribly theyve been treated, but, far
    from being persecuted, they are celebrated on the right, even if the >mainstream members of their professions have, time and time again,
    considered their ideas and roundly rejected them on their merits.

    My question is: Why host these meetings now and in these venues?

    Some have suggested this is about auditioning for the next Trump >administration as much as it is trying to rewrite the history of the >pandemic. Both are in part probably true. But if you zoom out and think
    about these meetings in the context of the rights war on higher
    education, I believe the purpose becomes clearer.

    These Covid contrarianswho have found little support for their views
    among their peershave decided that the science has been turned into a >dogmatic tool of oppression for rejecting them. In their minds they are >Galileos against the church, and now they are tilting their fury against
    the institutions themselves. This tack is of course reminiscent of the >rights attacks on the universities as bastions of woke, left-wing
    ideology, which either need to be reformed (by hiring more conservative >faculty) or gutted and rebuilt to their liking (e.g., New College of >Florida).

    In this light, these two meetings are about establishing a
    beachheadbuilding credibility in what many of the organizers would
    consider the liberal bastions of academia. If you cannot convince your >colleagues of the worth of your arguments, then you can cry out that
    youre being discriminated against for simply having differing views.
    But things dont work like that in science: we dont teach intelligent
    design alongside evolution, or alternative theories of the cause of
    AIDS. Supporters of those discredited ideas would say we need to teach
    the controversy and not be dogmatic, but there is no controversy to be
    had: the preponderance of the evidence supports evolution and HIV as the >cause of AIDS. Similarly, many of the Covid contrarians favorite claims
    have withered in the sunlight of scientific scrutiny.

    Current Issue
    Cover of October 2024 Issue
    October 2024 Issue
    But just as the Federalist Society has established influence over law
    schools and the judiciary, the Covid contrarians and their supporters
    would like to do the same for medicine and public health, by
    mainstreaming their viewsboth in academic settings and then in public >policyby sheer brute force. They wont give up, and they have the money
    and resources to continue their campaigns. Should former president Trump >regain the White House, their fortunes will rise and these threats to >academic integrity, and to the public health itself (through adoption of >their views in practice) will go into overdrive.

    And for anyone who thinks this is all academic, in mid-September, the
    surgeon general of Florida recommended against the use of mRNA Covid >vaccines, just as were heading into respiratory virus season,
    endangering the lives of the residents of the state with quackery and >pseudoscience. Of course, its the same Covid contrarians who have
    organized these meetings, who have been advising the DeSantis
    administration for several years now on pandemic policy. Shame on them.

    In the interim, we are 100% prepared/protected in the "full armor of
    GOD" (Ephesians 6:11) which we put on as soon as we use Apostle Paul's
    secret (Philippians 4:12). Though masking is less protective, it helps
    us avoid the appearance of doing the evil of spreading airborne
    pathogens while there are people getting sick because of not being
    100% protected. It is written that we're to "abstain from **all**
    appearance of doing evil" (1 Thessalonians 5:22 w/**emphasis**).

    Meanwhile, the only *perfect* (Matt 5:47-8 ) way to eradicate the
    COVID-19 virus, thereby saving lives, in the US & elsewhere is by
    rapidly (i.e. use the "Rapid COVID-19 Test" ) finding out at any given
    moment, including even while on-line, who among us are unwittingly
    contagious (i.e pre-symptomatic or asymptomatic) in order to
    "convince it forward" (John 15:12) for them to call their doctor and self-quarantine per their doctor in hopes of stopping this pandemic.
    Thus, we're hoping for the best while preparing for the worse-case
    scenario of the Alpha lineage mutations and others like the Omicron,
    Gamma, Beta, Epsilon, Iota, Lambda, Mu & Delta lineage mutations
    combining via slip-RNA-replication to form hybrids like "Deltamicron"
    that may render current COVID vaccines/monoclonals/medicines/pills no
    longer effective.

    Indeed, I am wonderfully hungry ( https://groups.google.com/g/sci.med.cardiology/c/6ZoE95d-VKc/m/14vVZoyOBgAJ
    ) and hope you, Michael, also have a healthy appetite too.

    So how are you ?

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  • From HeartDoc Andrew@21:1/5 to All on Sun Oct 6 17:43:40 2024
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    (Stanford) 10/06/24 Again not a LoosePeeledQuackIdiot bigot ...

    https://groups.google.com/g/sci.med.cardiology/c/Ai33hw5PINI/m/wytVpY68MwAJ

    Instead be "woke" to the sin of racial prejudice:

    https://tinyurl.com/JesusIsWoke (i.e. not a Nazi bigot) *and* risen!!!

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  • From Michael Ejercito@21:1/5 to HeartDoc Andrew on Sun Oct 6 17:40:58 2024
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    HeartDoc Andrew wrote:
    Michael Ejercito wrote:

    https://www.reddit.com/r/LockdownSkepticism/comments/1fweoqu/some_of_our_top_schools_are_embarrassing/


    Some of Our Top Schools Are Embarrassing Themselves Over Covid
    Why are places like Stanford and Johns Hopkins hosting gatherings of
    well-known coronavirus cranks?

    Gregg Gonsalves
    Share



    Stanford University President Jonathan Levin.
    Stanford University president Jonathan Levin

    (Justin Sullivan / Getty Images)
    Today, Stanford University is holding an all-day gathering on the Covid
    pandemic, with its new president making opening remarks. It’s the second >> such meeting at a prestigious university in recent months, after Johns
    Hopkins hosted a “symposium on health policy” in September. They may
    seem fine on the surface, but both events should be a source of
    embarrassment for the institutions involved. (I have a personal stake in
    the former gathering: I’m spending my time this fall at Stanford with a
    group of wonderful, truly talented researchers, who I hope do not get
    sprayed with the stink of this misbegotten affair.)

    The video player is currently playing an ad.




    While the organization and funding for these two meetings isn’t
    explicitly linked, the cast of characters at both are eerily similar.
    They each feature a collection of well-known Covid contrarians: those
    who, in the early days of the pandemic thought we should “let ’er rip” >> and get as many people infected as possible, with a performative nod to
    protecting the vulnerable; suggested that vaccine and mask mandates were
    somehow akin to Nazi totalitarianism; told us not to worry about
    variants (“variants, schmariants,” as one of them remarked months before >> Delta and Omicron blasted their way through the US); and said we’d have
    herd immunity by April 2021.

    If you want just one piece of evidence about the kind of cranks we’re
    talking about, consider this: A late addition to the Stanford meeting is
    a senior editor of the Epoch Times, a far-right publication that not
    only dabbles in Covid conspiracies but is a frequent purveyor of climate
    change denialism.

    While the organizers have tried to add a few reasonable voices to the
    meeting, it doesn’t change the overall thrust of these gatherings. As
    former Texas governor Ann Richards said, “You can put lipstick and
    earrings on a hog and call it Monique, but it’s still a pig.”

    Health reporters like Michael Hiltzik at the Los Angeles Times blew the
    whistle on the Stanford conference in mid-September, and others who have
    focused on debunking the pseudoscience of this crew have written about
    the meetings on both coasts. The faculty at both institutions who are
    pushed for and are behind these convocations have defended them on the
    grounds of academic freedom—a defense that, in our current era of
    freakouts over “cancel culture,” neither Stanford or Hopkins would have >> had an easy time overcoming. Chalk one up to the contrarians for putting
    these schools in an impossible situation—though that still does not
    explain why Stanford’s president feels the need to personally show up today.

    The architects of these meetings come with bags and bags of right-wing
    funding, some of it laundered through think tanks and other
    institutions. They have met with Trump officials in the White House and
    guided Florida Governor Ron DeSantis on Covid-19 policy. Some of them
    even got a shout-out from Bret Stephens at The New York Times last week.

    They whine on and on about how terribly they’ve been treated, but, far >>from being persecuted, they are celebrated on the right, even if the
    mainstream members of their professions have, time and time again,
    considered their ideas and roundly rejected them on their merits.

    My question is: Why host these meetings now and in these venues?

    Some have suggested this is about “auditioning” for the next Trump
    administration as much as it is trying to rewrite the history of the
    pandemic. Both are in part probably true. But if you zoom out and think
    about these meetings in the context of the right’s war on higher
    education, I believe the purpose becomes clearer.

    These Covid contrarians—who have found little support for their views
    among their peers—have decided that the science has been turned into “a >> dogmatic tool of oppression” for rejecting them. In their minds they are >> Galileos against the church, and now they are tilting their fury against
    the institutions themselves. This tack is of course reminiscent of the
    right’s attacks on the universities as bastions of woke, left-wing
    ideology, which either need to be reformed (by hiring more conservative
    faculty) or gutted and rebuilt to their liking (e.g., New College of
    Florida).

    In this light, these two meetings are about establishing a
    beachhead—building credibility in what many of the organizers would
    consider the liberal bastions of academia. If you cannot convince your
    colleagues of the worth of your arguments, then you can cry out that
    you’re being discriminated against for simply having “differing views.”
    But things don’t work like that in science: we don’t teach intelligent >> design alongside evolution, or alternative theories of the cause of
    AIDS. Supporters of those discredited ideas would say we need to “teach
    the controversy” and not be dogmatic, but there is no controversy to be
    had: the preponderance of the evidence supports evolution and HIV as the
    cause of AIDS. Similarly, many of the Covid contrarians’ favorite claims >> have withered in the sunlight of scientific scrutiny.

    Current Issue
    Cover of October 2024 Issue
    October 2024 Issue
    But just as the Federalist Society has established influence over law
    schools and the judiciary, the Covid contrarians and their supporters
    would like to do the same for medicine and public health, by
    mainstreaming their views—both in academic settings and then in public
    policy—by sheer brute force. They won’t give up, and they have the money >> and resources to continue their campaigns. Should former president Trump
    regain the White House, their fortunes will rise and these threats to
    academic integrity, and to the public health itself (through adoption of
    their views in practice) will go into overdrive.

    And for anyone who thinks this is all academic, in mid-September, the
    surgeon general of Florida recommended against the use of mRNA Covid
    vaccines, just as we’re heading into respiratory virus season,
    endangering the lives of the residents of the state with quackery and
    pseudoscience. Of course, it’s the same Covid contrarians who have
    organized these meetings, who have been advising the DeSantis
    administration for several years now on pandemic policy. Shame on them.

    In the interim, we are 100% prepared/protected in the "full armor of
    GOD" (Ephesians 6:11) which we put on as soon as we use Apostle Paul's
    secret (Philippians 4:12). Though masking is less protective, it helps
    us avoid the appearance of doing the evil of spreading airborne
    pathogens while there are people getting sick because of not being
    100% protected. It is written that we're to "abstain from **all**
    appearance of doing evil" (1 Thessalonians 5:22 w/**emphasis**).

    Meanwhile, the only *perfect* (Matt 5:47-8 ) way to eradicate the
    COVID-19 virus, thereby saving lives, in the US & elsewhere is by
    rapidly (i.e. use the "Rapid COVID-19 Test" ) finding out at any given moment, including even while on-line, who among us are unwittingly
    contagious (i.e pre-symptomatic or asymptomatic) in order to
    "convince it forward" (John 15:12) for them to call their doctor and self-quarantine per their doctor in hopes of stopping this pandemic.
    Thus, we're hoping for the best while preparing for the worse-case
    scenario of the Alpha lineage mutations and others like the Omicron,
    Gamma, Beta, Epsilon, Iota, Lambda, Mu & Delta lineage mutations
    combining via slip-RNA-replication to form hybrids like "Deltamicron"
    that may render current COVID vaccines/monoclonals/medicines/pills no
    longer effective.

    Indeed, I am wonderfully hungry ( https://groups.google.com/g/sci.med.cardiology/c/6ZoE95d-VKc/m/14vVZoyOBgAJ
    ) and hope you, Michael, also have a healthy appetite too.

    So how are you ?

    I am wonderfully hungry!


    Michael

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  • From HeartDoc Andrew@21:1/5 to Michael Ejercito on Mon Oct 7 00:18:29 2024
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    Michael Ejercito wrote:
    HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
    Michael Ejercito wrote:

    https://www.reddit.com/r/LockdownSkepticism/comments/1fweoqu/some_of_our_top_schools_are_embarrassing/


    Some of Our Top Schools Are Embarrassing Themselves Over Covid
    Why are places like Stanford and Johns Hopkins hosting gatherings of
    well-known coronavirus cranks?

    Gregg Gonsalves
    Share



    Stanford University President Jonathan Levin.
    Stanford University president Jonathan Levin

    (Justin Sullivan / Getty Images)
    Today, Stanford University is holding an all-day gathering on the Covid
    pandemic, with its new president making opening remarks. Its the second >>> such meeting at a prestigious university in recent months, after Johns
    Hopkins hosted a symposium on health policy in September. They may
    seem fine on the surface, but both events should be a source of
    embarrassment for the institutions involved. (I have a personal stake in >>> the former gathering: Im spending my time this fall at Stanford with a
    group of wonderful, truly talented researchers, who I hope do not get
    sprayed with the stink of this misbegotten affair.)

    The video player is currently playing an ad.




    While the organization and funding for these two meetings isnt
    explicitly linked, the cast of characters at both are eerily similar.
    They each feature a collection of well-known Covid contrarians: those
    who, in the early days of the pandemic thought we should let er rip
    and get as many people infected as possible, with a performative nod to
    protecting the vulnerable; suggested that vaccine and mask mandates were >>> somehow akin to Nazi totalitarianism; told us not to worry about
    variants (variants, schmariants, as one of them remarked months before >>> Delta and Omicron blasted their way through the US); and said wed have
    herd immunity by April 2021.

    If you want just one piece of evidence about the kind of cranks were
    talking about, consider this: A late addition to the Stanford meeting is >>> a senior editor of the Epoch Times, a far-right publication that not
    only dabbles in Covid conspiracies but is a frequent purveyor of climate >>> change denialism.

    While the organizers have tried to add a few reasonable voices to the
    meeting, it doesnt change the overall thrust of these gatherings. As
    former Texas governor Ann Richards said, You can put lipstick and
    earrings on a hog and call it Monique, but its still a pig.

    Health reporters like Michael Hiltzik at the Los Angeles Times blew the
    whistle on the Stanford conference in mid-September, and others who have >>> focused on debunking the pseudoscience of this crew have written about
    the meetings on both coasts. The faculty at both institutions who are
    pushed for and are behind these convocations have defended them on the
    grounds of academic freedoma defense that, in our current era of
    freakouts over cancel culture, neither Stanford or Hopkins would have
    had an easy time overcoming. Chalk one up to the contrarians for putting >>> these schools in an impossible situationthough that still does not
    explain why Stanfords president feels the need to personally show up today.

    The architects of these meetings come with bags and bags of right-wing
    funding, some of it laundered through think tanks and other
    institutions. They have met with Trump officials in the White House and
    guided Florida Governor Ron DeSantis on Covid-19 policy. Some of them
    even got a shout-out from Bret Stephens at The New York Times last week. >>>
    They whine on and on about how terribly theyve been treated, but, far >>>from being persecuted, they are celebrated on the right, even if the
    mainstream members of their professions have, time and time again,
    considered their ideas and roundly rejected them on their merits.

    My question is: Why host these meetings now and in these venues?

    Some have suggested this is about auditioning for the next Trump
    administration as much as it is trying to rewrite the history of the
    pandemic. Both are in part probably true. But if you zoom out and think
    about these meetings in the context of the rights war on higher
    education, I believe the purpose becomes clearer.

    These Covid contrarianswho have found little support for their views
    among their peershave decided that the science has been turned into a
    dogmatic tool of oppression for rejecting them. In their minds they are >>> Galileos against the church, and now they are tilting their fury against >>> the institutions themselves. This tack is of course reminiscent of the
    rights attacks on the universities as bastions of woke, left-wing
    ideology, which either need to be reformed (by hiring more conservative
    faculty) or gutted and rebuilt to their liking (e.g., New College of
    Florida).

    In this light, these two meetings are about establishing a
    beachheadbuilding credibility in what many of the organizers would
    consider the liberal bastions of academia. If you cannot convince your
    colleagues of the worth of your arguments, then you can cry out that
    youre being discriminated against for simply having differing views.
    But things dont work like that in science: we dont teach intelligent
    design alongside evolution, or alternative theories of the cause of
    AIDS. Supporters of those discredited ideas would say we need to teach
    the controversy and not be dogmatic, but there is no controversy to be
    had: the preponderance of the evidence supports evolution and HIV as the >>> cause of AIDS. Similarly, many of the Covid contrarians favorite claims >>> have withered in the sunlight of scientific scrutiny.

    Current Issue
    Cover of October 2024 Issue
    October 2024 Issue
    But just as the Federalist Society has established influence over law
    schools and the judiciary, the Covid contrarians and their supporters
    would like to do the same for medicine and public health, by
    mainstreaming their viewsboth in academic settings and then in public
    policyby sheer brute force. They wont give up, and they have the money >>> and resources to continue their campaigns. Should former president Trump >>> regain the White House, their fortunes will rise and these threats to
    academic integrity, and to the public health itself (through adoption of >>> their views in practice) will go into overdrive.

    And for anyone who thinks this is all academic, in mid-September, the
    surgeon general of Florida recommended against the use of mRNA Covid
    vaccines, just as were heading into respiratory virus season,
    endangering the lives of the residents of the state with quackery and
    pseudoscience. Of course, its the same Covid contrarians who have
    organized these meetings, who have been advising the DeSantis
    administration for several years now on pandemic policy. Shame on them.

    In the interim, we are 100% prepared/protected in the "full armor of
    GOD" (Ephesians 6:11) which we put on as soon as we use Apostle Paul's
    secret (Philippians 4:12). Though masking is less protective, it helps
    us avoid the appearance of doing the evil of spreading airborne
    pathogens while there are people getting sick because of not being
    100% protected. It is written that we're to "abstain from **all**
    appearance of doing evil" (1 Thessalonians 5:22 w/**emphasis**).

    Meanwhile, the only *perfect* (Matt 5:47-8 ) way to eradicate the
    COVID-19 virus, thereby saving lives, in the US & elsewhere is by
    rapidly (i.e. use the "Rapid COVID-19 Test" ) finding out at any given
    moment, including even while on-line, who among us are unwittingly
    contagious (i.e pre-symptomatic or asymptomatic) in order to
    "convince it forward" (John 15:12) for them to call their doctor and
    self-quarantine per their doctor in hopes of stopping this pandemic.
    Thus, we're hoping for the best while preparing for the worse-case
    scenario of the Alpha lineage mutations and others like the Omicron,
    Gamma, Beta, Epsilon, Iota, Lambda, Mu & Delta lineage mutations
    combining via slip-RNA-replication to form hybrids like "Deltamicron"
    that may render current COVID vaccines/monoclonals/medicines/pills no
    longer effective.

    Indeed, I am wonderfully hungry (
    https://groups.google.com/g/sci.med.cardiology/c/6ZoE95d-VKc/m/14vVZoyOBgAJ >> ) and hope you, Michael, also have a healthy appetite too.

    So how are you ?

    I am wonderfully hungry!

    While wonderfully hungry in the Holy Spirit, Who causes (Deuteronomy
    8:3) us to hunger, I note that you, Michael, are rapture ready (Luke
    17:37 means no COVID just as eagles circling over their food have no
    COVID) and pray (2 Chronicles 7:14) that our Everlasting (Isaiah 9:6)
    Father in Heaven continues to give us "much more" (Luke 11:13) Holy
    Spirit (Galatians 5:22-23) so that we'd have much more of His Help to
    always say/write that we're "wonderfully hungry" in **all** ways
    including especially caring to "convince it forward" (John 15:12) with
    all glory (Psalm112:1) to GOD (aka HaShem, Elohim, Abba, DEO), in
    the name (John 16:23) of LORD Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Amen.

    Laus DEO !

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  • From Michael Ejercito@21:1/5 to HeartDoc Andrew on Mon Oct 7 06:47:05 2024
    XPost: alt.bible.prophecy, soc.culture.usa, soc.culture.israel
    XPost: alt.christnet.christianlife

    HeartDoc Andrew wrote:
    Michael Ejercito wrote:
    HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
    Michael Ejercito wrote:

    https://www.reddit.com/r/LockdownSkepticism/comments/1fweoqu/some_of_our_top_schools_are_embarrassing/


    Some of Our Top Schools Are Embarrassing Themselves Over Covid
    Why are places like Stanford and Johns Hopkins hosting gatherings of
    well-known coronavirus cranks?

    Gregg Gonsalves
    Share



    Stanford University President Jonathan Levin.
    Stanford University president Jonathan Levin

    (Justin Sullivan / Getty Images)
    Today, Stanford University is holding an all-day gathering on the Covid >>>> pandemic, with its new president making opening remarks. It’s the second >>>> such meeting at a prestigious university in recent months, after Johns >>>> Hopkins hosted a “symposium on health policy” in September. They may >>>> seem fine on the surface, but both events should be a source of
    embarrassment for the institutions involved. (I have a personal stake in >>>> the former gathering: I’m spending my time this fall at Stanford with a >>>> group of wonderful, truly talented researchers, who I hope do not get
    sprayed with the stink of this misbegotten affair.)

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    While the organization and funding for these two meetings isn’t
    explicitly linked, the cast of characters at both are eerily similar.
    They each feature a collection of well-known Covid contrarians: those
    who, in the early days of the pandemic thought we should “let ’er rip”
    and get as many people infected as possible, with a performative nod to >>>> protecting the vulnerable; suggested that vaccine and mask mandates were >>>> somehow akin to Nazi totalitarianism; told us not to worry about
    variants (“variants, schmariants,” as one of them remarked months before
    Delta and Omicron blasted their way through the US); and said we’d have >>>> herd immunity by April 2021.

    If you want just one piece of evidence about the kind of cranks we’re >>>> talking about, consider this: A late addition to the Stanford meeting is >>>> a senior editor of the Epoch Times, a far-right publication that not
    only dabbles in Covid conspiracies but is a frequent purveyor of climate >>>> change denialism.

    While the organizers have tried to add a few reasonable voices to the
    meeting, it doesn’t change the overall thrust of these gatherings. As >>>> former Texas governor Ann Richards said, “You can put lipstick and
    earrings on a hog and call it Monique, but it’s still a pig.”

    Health reporters like Michael Hiltzik at the Los Angeles Times blew the >>>> whistle on the Stanford conference in mid-September, and others who have >>>> focused on debunking the pseudoscience of this crew have written about >>>> the meetings on both coasts. The faculty at both institutions who are
    pushed for and are behind these convocations have defended them on the >>>> grounds of academic freedom—a defense that, in our current era of
    freakouts over “cancel culture,” neither Stanford or Hopkins would have
    had an easy time overcoming. Chalk one up to the contrarians for putting >>>> these schools in an impossible situation—though that still does not
    explain why Stanford’s president feels the need to personally show up today.

    The architects of these meetings come with bags and bags of right-wing >>>> funding, some of it laundered through think tanks and other
    institutions. They have met with Trump officials in the White House and >>>> guided Florida Governor Ron DeSantis on Covid-19 policy. Some of them
    even got a shout-out from Bret Stephens at The New York Times last week. >>>>
    They whine on and on about how terribly they’ve been treated, but, far >>> >from being persecuted, they are celebrated on the right, even if the
    mainstream members of their professions have, time and time again,
    considered their ideas and roundly rejected them on their merits.

    My question is: Why host these meetings now and in these venues?

    Some have suggested this is about “auditioning” for the next Trump >>>> administration as much as it is trying to rewrite the history of the
    pandemic. Both are in part probably true. But if you zoom out and think >>>> about these meetings in the context of the right’s war on higher
    education, I believe the purpose becomes clearer.

    These Covid contrarians—who have found little support for their views >>>> among their peers—have decided that the science has been turned into “a
    dogmatic tool of oppression” for rejecting them. In their minds they are >>>> Galileos against the church, and now they are tilting their fury against >>>> the institutions themselves. This tack is of course reminiscent of the >>>> right’s attacks on the universities as bastions of woke, left-wing
    ideology, which either need to be reformed (by hiring more conservative >>>> faculty) or gutted and rebuilt to their liking (e.g., New College of
    Florida).

    In this light, these two meetings are about establishing a
    beachhead—building credibility in what many of the organizers would
    consider the liberal bastions of academia. If you cannot convince your >>>> colleagues of the worth of your arguments, then you can cry out that
    you’re being discriminated against for simply having “differing views.”
    But things don’t work like that in science: we don’t teach intelligent >>>> design alongside evolution, or alternative theories of the cause of
    AIDS. Supporters of those discredited ideas would say we need to “teach >>>> the controversy” and not be dogmatic, but there is no controversy to be >>>> had: the preponderance of the evidence supports evolution and HIV as the >>>> cause of AIDS. Similarly, many of the Covid contrarians’ favorite claims >>>> have withered in the sunlight of scientific scrutiny.

    Current Issue
    Cover of October 2024 Issue
    October 2024 Issue
    But just as the Federalist Society has established influence over law
    schools and the judiciary, the Covid contrarians and their supporters
    would like to do the same for medicine and public health, by
    mainstreaming their views—both in academic settings and then in public >>>> policy—by sheer brute force. They won’t give up, and they have the money
    and resources to continue their campaigns. Should former president Trump >>>> regain the White House, their fortunes will rise and these threats to
    academic integrity, and to the public health itself (through adoption of >>>> their views in practice) will go into overdrive.

    And for anyone who thinks this is all academic, in mid-September, the
    surgeon general of Florida recommended against the use of mRNA Covid
    vaccines, just as we’re heading into respiratory virus season,
    endangering the lives of the residents of the state with quackery and
    pseudoscience. Of course, it’s the same Covid contrarians who have
    organized these meetings, who have been advising the DeSantis
    administration for several years now on pandemic policy. Shame on them. >>>
    In the interim, we are 100% prepared/protected in the "full armor of
    GOD" (Ephesians 6:11) which we put on as soon as we use Apostle Paul's
    secret (Philippians 4:12). Though masking is less protective, it helps
    us avoid the appearance of doing the evil of spreading airborne
    pathogens while there are people getting sick because of not being
    100% protected. It is written that we're to "abstain from **all**
    appearance of doing evil" (1 Thessalonians 5:22 w/**emphasis**).

    Meanwhile, the only *perfect* (Matt 5:47-8 ) way to eradicate the
    COVID-19 virus, thereby saving lives, in the US & elsewhere is by
    rapidly (i.e. use the "Rapid COVID-19 Test" ) finding out at any given
    moment, including even while on-line, who among us are unwittingly
    contagious (i.e pre-symptomatic or asymptomatic) in order to
    "convince it forward" (John 15:12) for them to call their doctor and
    self-quarantine per their doctor in hopes of stopping this pandemic.
    Thus, we're hoping for the best while preparing for the worse-case
    scenario of the Alpha lineage mutations and others like the Omicron,
    Gamma, Beta, Epsilon, Iota, Lambda, Mu & Delta lineage mutations
    combining via slip-RNA-replication to form hybrids like "Deltamicron"
    that may render current COVID vaccines/monoclonals/medicines/pills no
    longer effective.

    Indeed, I am wonderfully hungry (
    https://groups.google.com/g/sci.med.cardiology/c/6ZoE95d-VKc/m/14vVZoyOBgAJ >>> ) and hope you, Michael, also have a healthy appetite too.

    So how are you ?

    I am wonderfully hungry!

    While wonderfully hungry in the Holy Spirit, Who causes (Deuteronomy
    8:3) us to hunger, I note that you, Michael, are rapture ready (Luke
    17:37 means no COVID just as eagles circling over their food have no
    COVID) and pray (2 Chronicles 7:14) that our Everlasting (Isaiah 9:6)
    Father in Heaven continues to give us "much more" (Luke 11:13) Holy
    Spirit (Galatians 5:22-23) so that we'd have much more of His Help to
    always say/write that we're "wonderfully hungry" in **all** ways
    including especially caring to "convince it forward" (John 15:12) with
    all glory (Psalm112:1) to GOD (aka HaShem, Elohim, Abba, DEO), in
    the name (John 16:23) of LORD Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Amen.

    Laus DEO !

    Thank you for noting that I have no COVID.


    Michael

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  • From HeartDoc Andrew@21:1/5 to Michael Ejercito on Mon Oct 7 16:27:44 2024
    XPost: alt.bible.prophecy, soc.culture.usa, soc.culture.israel
    XPost: alt.christnet.christianlife

    Michael Ejercito wrote:
    HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
    Michael Ejercito wrote:
    HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
    Michael Ejercito wrote:

    https://www.reddit.com/r/LockdownSkepticism/comments/1fweoqu/some_of_our_top_schools_are_embarrassing/


    Some of Our Top Schools Are Embarrassing Themselves Over Covid
    Why are places like Stanford and Johns Hopkins hosting gatherings of >>>>> well-known coronavirus cranks?

    Gregg Gonsalves
    Share



    Stanford University President Jonathan Levin.
    Stanford University president Jonathan Levin

    (Justin Sullivan / Getty Images)
    Today, Stanford University is holding an all-day gathering on the Covid >>>>> pandemic, with its new president making opening remarks. Its the second >>>>> such meeting at a prestigious university in recent months, after Johns >>>>> Hopkins hosted a symposium on health policy in September. They may >>>>> seem fine on the surface, but both events should be a source of
    embarrassment for the institutions involved. (I have a personal stake in >>>>> the former gathering: Im spending my time this fall at Stanford with a >>>>> group of wonderful, truly talented researchers, who I hope do not get >>>>> sprayed with the stink of this misbegotten affair.)

    The video player is currently playing an ad.




    While the organization and funding for these two meetings isnt
    explicitly linked, the cast of characters at both are eerily similar. >>>>> They each feature a collection of well-known Covid contrarians: those >>>>> who, in the early days of the pandemic thought we should let er rip >>>>> and get as many people infected as possible, with a performative nod to >>>>> protecting the vulnerable; suggested that vaccine and mask mandates were >>>>> somehow akin to Nazi totalitarianism; told us not to worry about
    variants (variants, schmariants, as one of them remarked months before >>>>> Delta and Omicron blasted their way through the US); and said wed have >>>>> herd immunity by April 2021.

    If you want just one piece of evidence about the kind of cranks were >>>>> talking about, consider this: A late addition to the Stanford meeting is >>>>> a senior editor of the Epoch Times, a far-right publication that not >>>>> only dabbles in Covid conspiracies but is a frequent purveyor of climate >>>>> change denialism.

    While the organizers have tried to add a few reasonable voices to the >>>>> meeting, it doesnt change the overall thrust of these gatherings. As >>>>> former Texas governor Ann Richards said, You can put lipstick and
    earrings on a hog and call it Monique, but its still a pig.

    Health reporters like Michael Hiltzik at the Los Angeles Times blew the >>>>> whistle on the Stanford conference in mid-September, and others who have >>>>> focused on debunking the pseudoscience of this crew have written about >>>>> the meetings on both coasts. The faculty at both institutions who are >>>>> pushed for and are behind these convocations have defended them on the >>>>> grounds of academic freedoma defense that, in our current era of
    freakouts over cancel culture, neither Stanford or Hopkins would have >>>>> had an easy time overcoming. Chalk one up to the contrarians for putting >>>>> these schools in an impossible situationthough that still does not
    explain why Stanfords president feels the need to personally show up today.

    The architects of these meetings come with bags and bags of right-wing >>>>> funding, some of it laundered through think tanks and other
    institutions. They have met with Trump officials in the White House and >>>>> guided Florida Governor Ron DeSantis on Covid-19 policy. Some of them >>>>> even got a shout-out from Bret Stephens at The New York Times last week. >>>>>
    They whine on and on about how terribly theyve been treated, but, far >>>> >from being persecuted, they are celebrated on the right, even if the >>>>> mainstream members of their professions have, time and time again,
    considered their ideas and roundly rejected them on their merits.

    My question is: Why host these meetings now and in these venues?

    Some have suggested this is about auditioning for the next Trump
    administration as much as it is trying to rewrite the history of the >>>>> pandemic. Both are in part probably true. But if you zoom out and think >>>>> about these meetings in the context of the rights war on higher
    education, I believe the purpose becomes clearer.

    These Covid contrarianswho have found little support for their views >>>>> among their peershave decided that the science has been turned into a >>>>> dogmatic tool of oppression for rejecting them. In their minds they are >>>>> Galileos against the church, and now they are tilting their fury against >>>>> the institutions themselves. This tack is of course reminiscent of the >>>>> rights attacks on the universities as bastions of woke, left-wing
    ideology, which either need to be reformed (by hiring more conservative >>>>> faculty) or gutted and rebuilt to their liking (e.g., New College of >>>>> Florida).

    In this light, these two meetings are about establishing a
    beachheadbuilding credibility in what many of the organizers would
    consider the liberal bastions of academia. If you cannot convince your >>>>> colleagues of the worth of your arguments, then you can cry out that >>>>> youre being discriminated against for simply having differing views. >>>>> But things dont work like that in science: we dont teach intelligent >>>>> design alongside evolution, or alternative theories of the cause of
    AIDS. Supporters of those discredited ideas would say we need to teach >>>>> the controversy and not be dogmatic, but there is no controversy to be >>>>> had: the preponderance of the evidence supports evolution and HIV as the >>>>> cause of AIDS. Similarly, many of the Covid contrarians favorite claims >>>>> have withered in the sunlight of scientific scrutiny.

    Current Issue
    Cover of October 2024 Issue
    October 2024 Issue
    But just as the Federalist Society has established influence over law >>>>> schools and the judiciary, the Covid contrarians and their supporters >>>>> would like to do the same for medicine and public health, by
    mainstreaming their viewsboth in academic settings and then in public >>>>> policyby sheer brute force. They wont give up, and they have the money >>>>> and resources to continue their campaigns. Should former president Trump >>>>> regain the White House, their fortunes will rise and these threats to >>>>> academic integrity, and to the public health itself (through adoption of >>>>> their views in practice) will go into overdrive.

    And for anyone who thinks this is all academic, in mid-September, the >>>>> surgeon general of Florida recommended against the use of mRNA Covid >>>>> vaccines, just as were heading into respiratory virus season,
    endangering the lives of the residents of the state with quackery and >>>>> pseudoscience. Of course, its the same Covid contrarians who have
    organized these meetings, who have been advising the DeSantis
    administration for several years now on pandemic policy. Shame on them. >>>>
    In the interim, we are 100% prepared/protected in the "full armor of
    GOD" (Ephesians 6:11) which we put on as soon as we use Apostle Paul's >>>> secret (Philippians 4:12). Though masking is less protective, it helps >>>> us avoid the appearance of doing the evil of spreading airborne
    pathogens while there are people getting sick because of not being
    100% protected. It is written that we're to "abstain from **all**
    appearance of doing evil" (1 Thessalonians 5:22 w/**emphasis**).

    Meanwhile, the only *perfect* (Matt 5:47-8 ) way to eradicate the
    COVID-19 virus, thereby saving lives, in the US & elsewhere is by
    rapidly (i.e. use the "Rapid COVID-19 Test" ) finding out at any given >>>> moment, including even while on-line, who among us are unwittingly
    contagious (i.e pre-symptomatic or asymptomatic) in order to
    "convince it forward" (John 15:12) for them to call their doctor and
    self-quarantine per their doctor in hopes of stopping this pandemic.
    Thus, we're hoping for the best while preparing for the worse-case
    scenario of the Alpha lineage mutations and others like the Omicron,
    Gamma, Beta, Epsilon, Iota, Lambda, Mu & Delta lineage mutations
    combining via slip-RNA-replication to form hybrids like "Deltamicron"
    that may render current COVID vaccines/monoclonals/medicines/pills no
    longer effective.

    Indeed, I am wonderfully hungry (
    https://groups.google.com/g/sci.med.cardiology/c/6ZoE95d-VKc/m/14vVZoyOBgAJ
    ) and hope you, Michael, also have a healthy appetite too.

    So how are you ?

    I am wonderfully hungry!

    While wonderfully hungry in the Holy Spirit, Who causes (Deuteronomy
    8:3) us to hunger, I note that you, Michael, are rapture ready (Luke
    17:37 means no COVID just as eagles circling over their food have no
    COVID) and pray (2 Chronicles 7:14) that our Everlasting (Isaiah 9:6)
    Father in Heaven continues to give us "much more" (Luke 11:13) Holy
    Spirit (Galatians 5:22-23) so that we'd have much more of His Help to
    always say/write that we're "wonderfully hungry" in **all** ways
    including especially caring to "convince it forward" (John 15:12) with
    all glory (Psalm112:1) to GOD (aka HaShem, Elohim, Abba, DEO), in
    the name (John 16:23) of LORD Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Amen.

    Laus DEO !

    Thank you for noting that I have no COVID.

    Just please do likewise as our LORD Jesus & I have done for you,
    Michael, and http://go.WDJW.net/ConvinceItForward (John 15:12) to be https://bit.ly/Wonderfully_Hungrier more blessed by GOD right now
    (Luke 6:21a).

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