• Deaths of Despair vs. Covid Death

    From Michael Ejercito@21:1/5 to All on Sun Dec 8 07:59:22 2024
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    https://www.reddit.com/r/LockdownSkepticism/comments/1h9ceng/deaths_of_despair_vs_covid_death/


    Deaths of Despair vs. Covid Death
    Public Health
    I remember thinking, if we increase deaths of despair (DoD) even 20%
    with lockdowns, we're likely already exceeding any any COVID deaths of
    young people.

    Not going through a whole CDC wonder export this time, just using
    ChatGPT. So not perfect data or comparison, but enlightening.

    The average age of DoD is about 36, mainly in 25-49 age group. Average
    COVID death 78.

    DEATHS OF DESPAIR (US) from ChatGPT (all, not broken down by age bracket unfortunately):

    2010: Approximately 80,000

    2011: ~85,000 deaths.

    2012: ~90,000 deaths.

    2013: ~95,000 deaths.

    2014: ~102,000 deaths.

    2015: ~110,000 deaths.

    2016: ~118,000 deaths.

    2017: ~127,000 deaths.

    2018: ~130,000 deaths. (Slowing increase)

    2019: ~132,000 deaths. (Slowing still)

    2020: ~155,000 deaths. (Lockdown)

    2021: ~176,000 deaths.

    2022: ~211,000+ (incomplete, this is the tally so far)

    2023: "early data suggesting similar or slightly exceeding 2022."

    2024: "likely to remain around 200,000"

    Compare to COVID DEATHS UNDER 50

    2020: ~11,600 deaths.

    2021: ~19,900 deaths.

    2022: ~5,300 deaths.

    2023: Estimated 2,200 deaths.

    2024: Won't give me data easily, but suggests trending down. Let's say
    ~2,000.

    At a glance, I'm seeing likely 250,000+/- additional deaths of despair 2020-2024... mostly 25-49 demographic, about 5x the covid mortality in
    that group... who all got it anyway.

    Obviously more nuance than this, covid death stats unreliable, etc., but
    pretty confident my initial reaction was one to consider before burning everything down and treating despair like an inconvenience.

    Again, sacrificing the young (DoD avg. victim 36) for the elderly (Covid
    avg. victim 78).

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  • From HeartDoc Andrew@21:1/5 to Michael Ejercito on Sun Dec 8 12:51:54 2024
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    Michael Ejercito wrote:

    https://www.reddit.com/r/LockdownSkepticism/comments/1h9ceng/deaths_of_despair_vs_covid_death/


    Deaths of Despair vs. Covid Death
    Public Health
    I remember thinking, if we increase deaths of despair (DoD) even 20%
    with lockdowns, we're likely already exceeding any any COVID deaths of
    young people.

    Not going through a whole CDC wonder export this time, just using
    ChatGPT. So not perfect data or comparison, but enlightening.

    The average age of DoD is about 36, mainly in 25-49 age group. Average
    COVID death 78.

    DEATHS OF DESPAIR (US) from ChatGPT (all, not broken down by age bracket >unfortunately):

    2010: Approximately 80,000

    2011: ~85,000 deaths.

    2012: ~90,000 deaths.

    2013: ~95,000 deaths.

    2014: ~102,000 deaths.

    2015: ~110,000 deaths.

    2016: ~118,000 deaths.

    2017: ~127,000 deaths.

    2018: ~130,000 deaths. (Slowing increase)

    2019: ~132,000 deaths. (Slowing still)

    2020: ~155,000 deaths. (Lockdown)

    2021: ~176,000 deaths.

    2022: ~211,000+ (incomplete, this is the tally so far)

    2023: "early data suggesting similar or slightly exceeding 2022."

    2024: "likely to remain around 200,000"

    Compare to COVID DEATHS UNDER 50

    2020: ~11,600 deaths.

    2021: ~19,900 deaths.

    2022: ~5,300 deaths.

    2023: Estimated 2,200 deaths.

    2024: Won't give me data easily, but suggests trending down. Let's say >~2,000.

    At a glance, I'm seeing likely 250,000+/- additional deaths of despair >2020-2024... mostly 25-49 demographic, about 5x the covid mortality in
    that group... who all got it anyway.

    Obviously more nuance than this, covid death stats unreliable, etc., but >pretty confident my initial reaction was one to consider before burning >everything down and treating despair like an inconvenience.

    Again, sacrificing the young (DoD avg. victim 36) for the elderly (Covid
    avg. victim 78).

    Those who hope (Isaiah 40:31) in the LORD Who is our #1 perfect
    (Matthew 5:48) Example of living http://WonderfullyHungry.org (Luke
    24:42-3) have peace (Galatians 5:22-3) from the "Prince of Peace"
    (Isaiah 9:6) instead of despair.

    Indeed, I am http://WonderfullyHungry.org (Philippians 4:12) for food
    right now (Luke 6:21a) and hope you, Michael, and others reading this,
    also have a healthy appetite for food right now too.

    So how are you ?

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  • From HeartDoc Andrew@21:1/5 to All on Sun Dec 8 12:54:13 2024
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    (Hope) 12/08/24 Again not a LoosePeeledChristianBigotIdiot ...

    https://groups.google.com/g/sci.med.cardiology/c/Ai33hw5PINI/m/wytVpY68MwAJ

    Instead be "woke" to the sin of racial prejudice:

    https://tinyurl.com/JesusIsWoke (i.e. not a Nazi bigot) *and* risen!!!

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  • From Loose Cannon@21:1/5 to MEjercit@HotMail.com on Sun Dec 8 15:07:24 2024
    XPost: alt.bible.prophecy, soc.culture.usa, soc.culture.israel

    On Sun, 8 Dec 2024 07:59:22 -0800, Michael Ejercito
    <MEjercit@HotMail.com> wrote:

    https://www.reddit.com/r/LockdownSkepticism/comments/1h9ceng/deaths_of_despair_vs_covid_death/


    Deaths of Despair vs. Covid Death
    Public Health
    I remember thinking, if we increase deaths of despair (DoD) even 20%
    with lockdowns, we're likely already exceeding any any COVID deaths of
    young people.

    Not going through a whole CDC wonder export this time, just using
    ChatGPT. So not perfect data or comparison, but enlightening.

    The average age of DoD is about 36, mainly in 25-49 age group. Average
    COVID death 78.

    DEATHS OF DESPAIR (US) from ChatGPT (all, not broken down by age bracket >unfortunately):

    2010: Approximately 80,000

    2011: ~85,000 deaths.

    2012: ~90,000 deaths.

    2013: ~95,000 deaths.

    2014: ~102,000 deaths.

    2015: ~110,000 deaths.

    2016: ~118,000 deaths.

    2017: ~127,000 deaths.

    2018: ~130,000 deaths. (Slowing increase)

    2019: ~132,000 deaths. (Slowing still)

    2020: ~155,000 deaths. (Lockdown)

    2021: ~176,000 deaths.

    2022: ~211,000+ (incomplete, this is the tally so far)

    2023: "early data suggesting similar or slightly exceeding 2022."

    2024: "likely to remain around 200,000"

    Compare to COVID DEATHS UNDER 50

    2020: ~11,600 deaths.

    2021: ~19,900 deaths.

    2022: ~5,300 deaths.

    2023: Estimated 2,200 deaths.

    2024: Won't give me data easily, but suggests trending down. Let's say >~2,000.

    At a glance, I'm seeing likely 250,000+/- additional deaths of despair >2020-2024... mostly 25-49 demographic, about 5x the covid mortality in
    that group... who all got it anyway.

    Obviously more nuance than this, covid death stats unreliable, etc., but >pretty confident my initial reaction was one to consider before burning >everything down and treating despair like an inconvenience.

    Again, sacrificing the young (DoD avg. victim 36) for the elderly (Covid
    avg. victim 78).


    How does this crap pertain to any of the groups you spammed?

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  • From Loose Cannon@21:1/5 to disciple@T3WiJ.com on Sun Dec 8 15:07:20 2024
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    XPost: alt.christnet.christianlife

    On Sun, 08 Dec 2024 12:51:54 -0500, HeartDoc Andrew
    <disciple@T3WiJ.com> wrote:

    <DELETE GOOK BLATHER>

    January 20th, 2025 can't get here fast enough

    https://postimg.cc/0r8NkFQy

    Goodbye gooks!

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  • From HeartDoc Andrew@21:1/5 to All on Sun Dec 8 15:20:54 2024
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    <Hope> 12/08/24 Loose/KK again vainjangling (1 Tim 1:6) ...

    https://groups.google.com/g/sci.med.cardiology/c/4tIJn_I167w/m/bKWQRUarAgAJ

    Link to post explicating vainjangling by the eternally condemned: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/O23NguTslhI/-xLGqnNjAAAJ

    "Like a moth to flame, the eternally condemned tragically return to be
    ever more cursed by GOD."

    Behold in wide-eyed wonder and amazement at the continued fulfillment
    of this prophecy as clearly demonstrated within the following USENET
    threads:

    (1) Link to thread titled "LORD Jesus Christ of Nazareth is our #1
    Example of being wonderfully hungry;"

    https://groups.google.com/g/sci.med.cardiology/c/_iVmOb7q3_Q/m/E8L7TNNtAgAJ

    (2) Link to thread titled "Being wonderfully hungry;"

    https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/sci.med.cardiology/uCPb3ldOv5M

    (3) Link to thread titled "A very very very simple definition of sin;"

    https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.bible.prophecy/xunFWhan_AM

    (4) Link to thread titled "The LORD says 'Blessed are you who hunger
    now;'"

    https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.bible.prophecy/e4sW8dr44rM

    (5) Link to thread titled "Being wonderfully hungry like LORD Jesus;"

    https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/xPY1Uzl-ZNk/QeKLDNCpCwAJ

    ... for the continued benefit (Romans 8:28) of those of us who are http://WonderfullyHungry.org like GOD ( http://bit.ly/Lk2442 ) with
    all glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to the LORD.

    Source: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/O23NguTslhI/pIZcsOCJBwAJ

    Laus DEO !

    While wonderfully hungry ( http://bit.ly/Philippians4_12 ) in the Holy
    Spirit, Who causes (Deuteronomy 8:3) me to hunger right now (Luke
    6:21a), I pray (2 Chronicles 7:14) that GOD continues to curse
    (Jeremiah 17:5) you, who are eternally condemned (Mark 3:29), more
    than ever in the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Amen.

    Laus DEO ! ! !

    Bottom line: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/O23NguTslhI/h5lE-mr0DAAJ

    <begin trichotomy>

    (1) Born-again (John 3:3 & 5) humans - Folks who have GOD's Help (i.e.
    Holy Spirit) to stop (John 5:14) sinning by being
    http://WonderfullyHungry.org (Philippians 4:12) **but** are still
    able to choose via their own "free will" to be instead http://bit.ly/terribly_hungry (Genesis 25:32) trapped in the
    entangling (Hebrews 12:1) deadly (i.e. killed immortals Adam&Eve) sin
    of gluttony (Proverbs 23:2).

    (2) Eternally condemned (Mark 3:29) humans - Folks who will never have
    GOD's Help (i.e. Holy Spirit) to stop being
    http://bit.ly/terribly_hungry (2 Kings 6:29) as evident by their
    constant vainjangling (1 Timothy 1:6) about everything except how to
    stop (John 5:14) sinning.

    (3) Perishing humans - The remaining folks who may possibly (Matthew
    19:26) become born-again (John 3:3 & 5) as new (2 Corinthians 5:17)
    creatures in Christ.

    <end trichotomy>

    Suggested further reading:
    http://T3WiJ.com

    +++

    someone eternally condemned & ever more cursed by GOD wrote:
    HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

    Subject: The LORD says "Blessed are you who hunger now ..."

    Source: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/e4sW8dr44rM/NSkTJxvFBAAJ

    Shame on andrew, look at his red face.

    LIE.

    The color of my face in **not** visible here on USENET nor is the
    color of my face red for those who can see me.

    He is trying to pull a fast one. His scripture bit is found among these:

    '14 Bible verses about Spiritual Hunger'

    Such are the lies coming from the lying pens of the http://bit.ly/terribly_hungry (Genesis 25:32) commentators.

    That which is "spiritual" is independent of time so that there
    would've been no reference to "now."

    Therefore, the LORD is referring to physical hunger here instead of
    the spiritual "hunger and thirst for righteousness" elsewhere in
    Scripture.

    Indeed, physical hunger can **not** coexist with physical thirst
    because the latter results in the loss of saliva needed for physical
    hunger.

    It is when we hunger for food "now" (Luke 6:21a) that we are able to
    eat food "now."

    No such time constraints exist for "spiritual hunger."

    Moreover, the perspective of Luke 6:21a through the eyes of a
    physician (i.e. Dr. Luke) would be logically expected to be physical
    instead of spiritual.

    All glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD for His compelling you
    to unwittingly demonstrate your ever worsening cognitive condition
    which is tragically a consequence of His cursing (Jeremiah 17:5) you
    more than ever.

    Laus DEO !

    +++

    someone eternally condemned & ever more cursed by GOD perseverated:
    (in a vain attempt to refute posts about being wonderfully hungry)

    Psalms
    81:10 I am the LORD thy God, which brought thee out of the land of Egypt: >open thy mouth wide, and I will fill it.

    Indeed, receiving a mouthful (Psalm 81:10) of manna from GOD will only
    make His http://WDJW.great-site.net/Redeemed want even more, so that
    we're even http://bit.ly/wonderfully_hungrier with all glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD.

    Laus DEO !

    Proverbs
    13:25 The righteous has enough to satisfy his appetite, But the stomach of >the wicked is in need.

    Indeed, the righteous know to be satisfied (Luke 6:21a) with an omer
    (Exodus 16:16) of manna, while the wicked need (Proverbs 13:25) this
    knowledge as evident by their eating until they are full (i.e.
    satiated).

    Joel
    2:26 And ye shall eat in plenty, and be satisfied, and praise the name of
    the LORD your God, that hath dealt wondrously with you: and my
    people shall never be ashamed.

    Indeed, an omer (32 ounces per Revelation 6:6) of manna is plenty
    (Joel 2:26) with all glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD and to
    the shame of you, who are eternally (Mark 3:29) condemned.

    Laus DEO ! !

    Psalms
    107 For he satisfies the thirsty and fills the hungry with good things.

    Indeed, being filled (Psalm 107:9) with an omer (Exodus 16:16) of
    manna is a Wonderful (Isaiah 9:6) thing while being satiated (i.e.
    full) is evil.

    Acts
    14:17 "Yet he did not leave himself without witness, for he did good by >giving you rains from heaven and fruitful seasons, satisfying
    your hearts with food and gladness."

    In the interim, you, who are eternally (Mark 3:29) condemned, will
    never be satisfied (Acts 14:17) because you are ever more cursed
    (Jeremiah 17:5) by GOD.

    Source: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/uCPb3ldOv5M/KgM8NFKuAQAJ

    +++

    someone eternally condemned & ever more cursed by GOD perseverated:
    HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

    Subject: a very very very simple definition of sin ...

    Source: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/mXmFD9kIocc/y8GNXircBQAJ

    Does andrew's "definition" agree with scripture? Let's see in 1 John:

    Actually, sin is **not** defined in 1 John 1:8-10

    John wrote this to christians. The greek grammer (sic) speaks of an ongoing >> status. He includes himself in that status.

    John was a Jew instead of a Greek so there is really no reason to
    think that Greek grammar is relevant here.

    1:8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is
    not in us.

    1:9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, >> and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

    1:10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is >> not in us.

    John also wrote earlier at John 5:14 that LORD Jesus commands:

    "Now stop sinning or something worse may happen to you." (John 5:14)

    And, indeed, your being eternally condemned (Mark 3:29) & ever more
    cursed (Jeremiah 17:5) by GOD, as evident by your ever worsening
    cognitive deficits, is really worse.

    Now again, here's how to really stop sinning as LORD Jesus commands
    (John 5:14):

    https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/2-Qpn-o81J4/ldGubKEZAgAJ

    While wonderfully hungry ( http://bit.ly/Philippians4_12 ) in the Holy
    Spirit, Who causes (Deuteronomy 8:3) me to hunger right now (Luke
    6:21a), I again pray (2 Chronicles 7:14) that GOD continues to curse
    (Jeremiah 17:5) you, who are eternally condemned (Mark 3:29), more
    than ever in the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Amen.

    Laus DEO ! ! !

    Again, this is done in hopes of convincing all reading this to stop
    being http://bit.ly/terribly_hungry (2 Kings 6:29) where all are in
    danger of becoming eternally condemned (Mark 3:29) just as had
    happened to Ananias and Sapphira and more contemporaneously to Bob
    Pastorio.

    Again, the LORD did strike down http://bit.ly/Bob_Pastorio on Fool's
    day just 9+ years ago:

    http://bobs-amanuensis.livejournal.com/8728.html

    Again, this is done ...

    http://bit.ly/HeartDocAndrew touts hunger (Luke 6:21a) with all glory
    ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD, Who causes us to hunger
    (Deuteronomy 8:3) when He blesses us right now (Luke 6:21a) thereby
    removing the http://WDJW.great-site.net/VAT from around the heart

    ...because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart,

    HeartDoc Andrew <><
    --
    Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
    Cardiologist with an http://bit.ly/EternalMedicalLicense
    2028 & upwards non-partisan candidate for U.S. President: http://WonderfullyHungry.org
    and author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
    http://bit.ly/HeartDocAndrewCare
    which is the only **healthy** cure for the U.S. healthcare crisis

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  • From Michael Ejercito@21:1/5 to HeartDoc Andrew on Sun Dec 8 18:38:04 2024
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    HeartDoc Andrew wrote:
    Michael Ejercito wrote:

    https://www.reddit.com/r/LockdownSkepticism/comments/1h9ceng/deaths_of_despair_vs_covid_death/


    Deaths of Despair vs. Covid Death
    Public Health
    I remember thinking, if we increase deaths of despair (DoD) even 20%
    with lockdowns, we're likely already exceeding any any COVID deaths of
    young people.

    Not going through a whole CDC wonder export this time, just using
    ChatGPT. So not perfect data or comparison, but enlightening.

    The average age of DoD is about 36, mainly in 25-49 age group. Average
    COVID death 78.

    DEATHS OF DESPAIR (US) from ChatGPT (all, not broken down by age bracket
    unfortunately):

    2010: Approximately 80,000

    2011: ~85,000 deaths.

    2012: ~90,000 deaths.

    2013: ~95,000 deaths.

    2014: ~102,000 deaths.

    2015: ~110,000 deaths.

    2016: ~118,000 deaths.

    2017: ~127,000 deaths.

    2018: ~130,000 deaths. (Slowing increase)

    2019: ~132,000 deaths. (Slowing still)

    2020: ~155,000 deaths. (Lockdown)

    2021: ~176,000 deaths.

    2022: ~211,000+ (incomplete, this is the tally so far)

    2023: "early data suggesting similar or slightly exceeding 2022."

    2024: "likely to remain around 200,000"

    Compare to COVID DEATHS UNDER 50

    2020: ~11,600 deaths.

    2021: ~19,900 deaths.

    2022: ~5,300 deaths.

    2023: Estimated 2,200 deaths.

    2024: Won't give me data easily, but suggests trending down. Let's say
    ~2,000.

    At a glance, I'm seeing likely 250,000+/- additional deaths of despair
    2020-2024... mostly 25-49 demographic, about 5x the covid mortality in
    that group... who all got it anyway.

    Obviously more nuance than this, covid death stats unreliable, etc., but
    pretty confident my initial reaction was one to consider before burning
    everything down and treating despair like an inconvenience.

    Again, sacrificing the young (DoD avg. victim 36) for the elderly (Covid
    avg. victim 78).

    Those who hope (Isaiah 40:31) in the LORD Who is our #1 perfect
    (Matthew 5:48) Example of living http://WonderfullyHungry.org (Luke
    24:42-3) have peace (Galatians 5:22-3) from the "Prince of Peace"
    (Isaiah 9:6) instead of despair.

    Indeed, I am http://WonderfullyHungry.org (Philippians 4:12) for food
    right now (Luke 6:21a) and hope you, Michael, and others reading this,
    also have a healthy appetite for food right now too.

    So how are you ?

    I am wonderfully hungry!


    Michael

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  • From HeartDoc Andrew@21:1/5 to Michael Ejercito on Sun Dec 8 21:54:20 2024
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    Michael Ejercito wrote:
    HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
    Michael Ejercito wrote:

    https://www.reddit.com/r/LockdownSkepticism/comments/1h9ceng/deaths_of_despair_vs_covid_death/


    Deaths of Despair vs. Covid Death
    Public Health
    I remember thinking, if we increase deaths of despair (DoD) even 20%
    with lockdowns, we're likely already exceeding any any COVID deaths of
    young people.

    Not going through a whole CDC wonder export this time, just using
    ChatGPT. So not perfect data or comparison, but enlightening.

    The average age of DoD is about 36, mainly in 25-49 age group. Average
    COVID death 78.

    DEATHS OF DESPAIR (US) from ChatGPT (all, not broken down by age bracket >>> unfortunately):

    2010: Approximately 80,000

    2011: ~85,000 deaths.

    2012: ~90,000 deaths.

    2013: ~95,000 deaths.

    2014: ~102,000 deaths.

    2015: ~110,000 deaths.

    2016: ~118,000 deaths.

    2017: ~127,000 deaths.

    2018: ~130,000 deaths. (Slowing increase)

    2019: ~132,000 deaths. (Slowing still)

    2020: ~155,000 deaths. (Lockdown)

    2021: ~176,000 deaths.

    2022: ~211,000+ (incomplete, this is the tally so far)

    2023: "early data suggesting similar or slightly exceeding 2022."

    2024: "likely to remain around 200,000"

    Compare to COVID DEATHS UNDER 50

    2020: ~11,600 deaths.

    2021: ~19,900 deaths.

    2022: ~5,300 deaths.

    2023: Estimated 2,200 deaths.

    2024: Won't give me data easily, but suggests trending down. Let's say
    ~2,000.

    At a glance, I'm seeing likely 250,000+/- additional deaths of despair
    2020-2024... mostly 25-49 demographic, about 5x the covid mortality in
    that group... who all got it anyway.

    Obviously more nuance than this, covid death stats unreliable, etc., but >>> pretty confident my initial reaction was one to consider before burning
    everything down and treating despair like an inconvenience.

    Again, sacrificing the young (DoD avg. victim 36) for the elderly (Covid >>> avg. victim 78).

    Those who hope (Isaiah 40:31) in the LORD Who is our #1 perfect
    (Matthew 5:48) Example of living http://WonderfullyHungry.org (Luke
    24:42-3) have peace (Galatians 5:22-3) from the "Prince of Peace"
    (Isaiah 9:6) instead of despair.

    Indeed, I am http://WonderfullyHungry.org (Philippians 4:12) for food
    right now (Luke 6:21a) and hope you, Michael, and others reading this,
    also have a healthy appetite for food right now too.

    So how are you ?

    I am wonderfully hungry!

    While wonderfully hungry in the Holy Spirit, Who causes (Deuteronomy
    8:3) us to hunger, I note that you, Michael, are rapture ready (Luke
    17:37 means no COVID just as eagles circling over their food have no
    COVID) and pray (2 Chronicles 7:14) that our Everlasting (Isaiah 9:6)
    Father in Heaven continues to give us "much more" (Luke 11:13) Holy
    Spirit (Galatians 5:22-23) so that we'd have much more of His Help to
    always say/write that we're "wonderfully hungry" in **all** ways
    including especially caring to "convince it forward" (John 15:12) with
    all glory (Psalm112:1) to GOD (aka HaShem, Elohim, Abba, DEO), in
    the name (John 16:23) of LORD Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Amen.

    Laus DEO !

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  • From Michael Ejercito@21:1/5 to HeartDoc Andrew on Mon Dec 9 07:16:07 2024
    XPost: alt.bible.prophecy, soc.culture.usa, soc.culture.israel
    XPost: alt.christnet.christianlife

    HeartDoc Andrew wrote:
    Michael Ejercito wrote:
    HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
    Michael Ejercito wrote:

    https://www.reddit.com/r/LockdownSkepticism/comments/1h9ceng/deaths_of_despair_vs_covid_death/


    Deaths of Despair vs. Covid Death
    Public Health
    I remember thinking, if we increase deaths of despair (DoD) even 20%
    with lockdowns, we're likely already exceeding any any COVID deaths of >>>> young people.

    Not going through a whole CDC wonder export this time, just using
    ChatGPT. So not perfect data or comparison, but enlightening.

    The average age of DoD is about 36, mainly in 25-49 age group. Average >>>> COVID death 78.

    DEATHS OF DESPAIR (US) from ChatGPT (all, not broken down by age bracket >>>> unfortunately):

    2010: Approximately 80,000

    2011: ~85,000 deaths.

    2012: ~90,000 deaths.

    2013: ~95,000 deaths.

    2014: ~102,000 deaths.

    2015: ~110,000 deaths.

    2016: ~118,000 deaths.

    2017: ~127,000 deaths.

    2018: ~130,000 deaths. (Slowing increase)

    2019: ~132,000 deaths. (Slowing still)

    2020: ~155,000 deaths. (Lockdown)

    2021: ~176,000 deaths.

    2022: ~211,000+ (incomplete, this is the tally so far)

    2023: "early data suggesting similar or slightly exceeding 2022."

    2024: "likely to remain around 200,000"

    Compare to COVID DEATHS UNDER 50

    2020: ~11,600 deaths.

    2021: ~19,900 deaths.

    2022: ~5,300 deaths.

    2023: Estimated 2,200 deaths.

    2024: Won't give me data easily, but suggests trending down. Let's say >>>> ~2,000.

    At a glance, I'm seeing likely 250,000+/- additional deaths of despair >>>> 2020-2024... mostly 25-49 demographic, about 5x the covid mortality in >>>> that group... who all got it anyway.

    Obviously more nuance than this, covid death stats unreliable, etc., but >>>> pretty confident my initial reaction was one to consider before burning >>>> everything down and treating despair like an inconvenience.

    Again, sacrificing the young (DoD avg. victim 36) for the elderly (Covid >>>> avg. victim 78).

    Those who hope (Isaiah 40:31) in the LORD Who is our #1 perfect
    (Matthew 5:48) Example of living http://WonderfullyHungry.org (Luke
    24:42-3) have peace (Galatians 5:22-3) from the "Prince of Peace"
    (Isaiah 9:6) instead of despair.

    Indeed, I am http://WonderfullyHungry.org (Philippians 4:12) for food
    right now (Luke 6:21a) and hope you, Michael, and others reading this,
    also have a healthy appetite for food right now too.

    So how are you ?

    I am wonderfully hungry!

    While wonderfully hungry in the Holy Spirit, Who causes (Deuteronomy
    8:3) us to hunger, I note that you, Michael, are rapture ready (Luke
    17:37 means no COVID just as eagles circling over their food have no
    COVID) and pray (2 Chronicles 7:14) that our Everlasting (Isaiah 9:6)
    Father in Heaven continues to give us "much more" (Luke 11:13) Holy
    Spirit (Galatians 5:22-23) so that we'd have much more of His Help to
    always say/write that we're "wonderfully hungry" in **all** ways
    including especially caring to "convince it forward" (John 15:12) with
    all glory (Psalm112:1) to GOD (aka HaShem, Elohim, Abba, DEO), in
    the name (John 16:23) of LORD Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Amen.

    Laus DEO !

    Thank you for noting that I have no COVID.


    Michael

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  • From HeartDoc Andrew@21:1/5 to Michael Ejercito on Mon Dec 9 10:25:58 2024
    XPost: alt.bible.prophecy, soc.culture.usa, soc.culture.israel
    XPost: alt.christnet.christianlife

    Michael Ejercito wrote:
    HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
    Michael Ejercito wrote:
    HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
    Michael Ejercito wrote:

    https://www.reddit.com/r/LockdownSkepticism/comments/1h9ceng/deaths_of_despair_vs_covid_death/


    Deaths of Despair vs. Covid Death
    Public Health
    I remember thinking, if we increase deaths of despair (DoD) even 20% >>>>> with lockdowns, we're likely already exceeding any any COVID deaths of >>>>> young people.

    Not going through a whole CDC wonder export this time, just using
    ChatGPT. So not perfect data or comparison, but enlightening.

    The average age of DoD is about 36, mainly in 25-49 age group. Average >>>>> COVID death 78.

    DEATHS OF DESPAIR (US) from ChatGPT (all, not broken down by age bracket >>>>> unfortunately):

    2010: Approximately 80,000

    2011: ~85,000 deaths.

    2012: ~90,000 deaths.

    2013: ~95,000 deaths.

    2014: ~102,000 deaths.

    2015: ~110,000 deaths.

    2016: ~118,000 deaths.

    2017: ~127,000 deaths.

    2018: ~130,000 deaths. (Slowing increase)

    2019: ~132,000 deaths. (Slowing still)

    2020: ~155,000 deaths. (Lockdown)

    2021: ~176,000 deaths.

    2022: ~211,000+ (incomplete, this is the tally so far)

    2023: "early data suggesting similar or slightly exceeding 2022."

    2024: "likely to remain around 200,000"

    Compare to COVID DEATHS UNDER 50

    2020: ~11,600 deaths.

    2021: ~19,900 deaths.

    2022: ~5,300 deaths.

    2023: Estimated 2,200 deaths.

    2024: Won't give me data easily, but suggests trending down. Let's say >>>>> ~2,000.

    At a glance, I'm seeing likely 250,000+/- additional deaths of despair >>>>> 2020-2024... mostly 25-49 demographic, about 5x the covid mortality in >>>>> that group... who all got it anyway.

    Obviously more nuance than this, covid death stats unreliable, etc., but >>>>> pretty confident my initial reaction was one to consider before burning >>>>> everything down and treating despair like an inconvenience.

    Again, sacrificing the young (DoD avg. victim 36) for the elderly (Covid >>>>> avg. victim 78).

    Those who hope (Isaiah 40:31) in the LORD Who is our #1 perfect
    (Matthew 5:48) Example of living http://WonderfullyHungry.org (Luke
    24:42-3) have peace (Galatians 5:22-3) from the "Prince of Peace"
    (Isaiah 9:6) instead of despair.

    Indeed, I am http://WonderfullyHungry.org (Philippians 4:12) for food
    right now (Luke 6:21a) and hope you, Michael, and others reading this, >>>> also have a healthy appetite for food right now too.

    So how are you ?

    I am wonderfully hungry!

    While wonderfully hungry in the Holy Spirit, Who causes (Deuteronomy
    8:3) us to hunger, I note that you, Michael, are rapture ready (Luke
    17:37 means no COVID just as eagles circling over their food have no
    COVID) and pray (2 Chronicles 7:14) that our Everlasting (Isaiah 9:6)
    Father in Heaven continues to give us "much more" (Luke 11:13) Holy
    Spirit (Galatians 5:22-23) so that we'd have much more of His Help to
    always say/write that we're "wonderfully hungry" in **all** ways
    including especially caring to "convince it forward" (John 15:12) with
    all glory (Psalm112:1) to GOD (aka HaShem, Elohim, Abba, DEO), in
    the name (John 16:23) of LORD Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Amen.

    Laus DEO !

    Thank you for noting that I have no COVID.

    Just please do likewise as our LORD Jesus & I have done for you,
    Michael, and http://go.WDJW.net/ConvinceItForward (John 15:12) to be https://bit.ly/Wonderfully_Hungrier more blessed by GOD right now
    (Luke 6:21a):

    https://bit.ly/WDJW_RightNow

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  • From Loose Cannon@21:1/5 to All on Mon Dec 9 10:40:16 2024
    XPost: alt.bible.prophecy, soc.culture.usa, soc.culture.israel
    XPost: alt.christnet.christianlife, alt.atheism

    https://gcmb.mylicense.com/verification

    Name: Andrew Ben-Hua Chung
    Designation: MD
    Lic #: 40347
    Profession: Physician
    Subtype: Full
    Status: Lapsed
    Issued: 8/3/1995
    Expires: 7/31/2017
    Street Address: **********
    MABLETON GA 30126
    County: Cobb
    Country: United States
    Public Document 04-40347

    ORDER OF THE BOARD:
    Comes now, the Georgia Composite Medical Board and hereby enters an
    Order after reviewing the Initial Decision in the above styled case.
    After hearing the argument and testimony of the Appellant herein,
    Andrew Ben-Hua Chung, M.D., the Board finds as follows after
    deliberation:

    FINDINGS OF FACT: The Board agrees with the initial decision.
    CONCLUSIONS OF LAW
    The Board agrees with the initial decision regarding conclusions of
    law.

    CONCLUSION
    The Board Orders that the respondent's license is revoked instanter.
    This the 9th day of March 2017.

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  • From HeartDoc Andrew@21:1/5 to All on Mon Dec 9 11:29:28 2024
    XPost: alt.bible.prophecy, soc.culture.usa, soc.culture.israel
    XPost: alt.christnet.christianlife

    <Hope> 12/09/24 Loose/KK again vainjangling (1 Tim 1:6) ...

    https://groups.google.com/g/sci.med.cardiology/c/4tIJn_I167w/m/bKWQRUarAgAJ

    Link to post explicating vainjangling by the eternally condemned: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/O23NguTslhI/-xLGqnNjAAAJ

    "Like a moth to flame, the eternally condemned tragically return to be
    ever more cursed by GOD."

    Behold in wide-eyed wonder and amazement at the continued fulfillment
    of this prophecy as clearly demonstrated within the following USENET
    threads:

    (1) Link to thread titled "LORD Jesus Christ of Nazareth is our #1
    Example of being wonderfully hungry;"

    https://groups.google.com/g/sci.med.cardiology/c/_iVmOb7q3_Q/m/E8L7TNNtAgAJ

    (2) Link to thread titled "Being wonderfully hungry;"

    https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/sci.med.cardiology/uCPb3ldOv5M

    (3) Link to thread titled "A very very very simple definition of sin;"

    https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.bible.prophecy/xunFWhan_AM

    (4) Link to thread titled "The LORD says 'Blessed are you who hunger
    now;'"

    https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.bible.prophecy/e4sW8dr44rM

    (5) Link to thread titled "Being wonderfully hungry like LORD Jesus;"

    https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/xPY1Uzl-ZNk/QeKLDNCpCwAJ

    ... for the continued benefit (Romans 8:28) of those of us who are http://WonderfullyHungry.org like GOD ( http://bit.ly/Lk2442 ) with
    all glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to the LORD.

    Source: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/O23NguTslhI/pIZcsOCJBwAJ

    Laus DEO !

    While wonderfully hungry ( http://bit.ly/Philippians4_12 ) in the Holy
    Spirit, Who causes (Deuteronomy 8:3) me to hunger right now (Luke
    6:21a), I pray (2 Chronicles 7:14) that GOD continues to curse
    (Jeremiah 17:5) you, who are eternally condemned (Mark 3:29), more
    than ever in the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Amen.

    Laus DEO ! ! !

    Bottom line: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/O23NguTslhI/h5lE-mr0DAAJ

    <begin trichotomy>

    (1) Born-again (John 3:3 & 5) humans - Folks who have GOD's Help (i.e.
    Holy Spirit) to stop (John 5:14) sinning by being
    http://WonderfullyHungry.org (Philippians 4:12) **but** are still
    able to choose via their own "free will" to be instead http://bit.ly/terribly_hungry (Genesis 25:32) trapped in the
    entangling (Hebrews 12:1) deadly (i.e. killed immortals Adam&Eve) sin
    of gluttony (Proverbs 23:2).

    (2) Eternally condemned (Mark 3:29) humans - Folks who will never have
    GOD's Help (i.e. Holy Spirit) to stop being
    http://bit.ly/terribly_hungry (2 Kings 6:29) as evident by their
    constant vainjangling (1 Timothy 1:6) about everything except how to
    stop (John 5:14) sinning.

    (3) Perishing humans - The remaining folks who may possibly (Matthew
    19:26) become born-again (John 3:3 & 5) as new (2 Corinthians 5:17)
    creatures in Christ.

    <end trichotomy>

    Suggested further reading:
    http://T3WiJ.com

    +++

    someone eternally condemned & ever more cursed by GOD wrote:
    HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

    Subject: The LORD says "Blessed are you who hunger now ..."

    Source: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/e4sW8dr44rM/NSkTJxvFBAAJ

    Shame on andrew, look at his red face.

    LIE.

    The color of my face in **not** visible here on USENET nor is the
    color of my face red for those who can see me.

    He is trying to pull a fast one. His scripture bit is found among these:

    '14 Bible verses about Spiritual Hunger'

    Such are the lies coming from the lying pens of the http://bit.ly/terribly_hungry (Genesis 25:32) commentators.

    That which is "spiritual" is independent of time so that there
    would've been no reference to "now."

    Therefore, the LORD is referring to physical hunger here instead of
    the spiritual "hunger and thirst for righteousness" elsewhere in
    Scripture.

    Indeed, physical hunger can **not** coexist with physical thirst
    because the latter results in the loss of saliva needed for physical
    hunger.

    It is when we hunger for food "now" (Luke 6:21a) that we are able to
    eat food "now."

    No such time constraints exist for "spiritual hunger."

    Moreover, the perspective of Luke 6:21a through the eyes of a
    physician (i.e. Dr. Luke) would be logically expected to be physical
    instead of spiritual.

    All glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD for His compelling you
    to unwittingly demonstrate your ever worsening cognitive condition
    which is tragically a consequence of His cursing (Jeremiah 17:5) you
    more than ever.

    Laus DEO !

    +++

    someone eternally condemned & ever more cursed by GOD perseverated:
    (in a vain attempt to refute posts about being wonderfully hungry)

    Psalms
    81:10 I am the LORD thy God, which brought thee out of the land of Egypt: >open thy mouth wide, and I will fill it.

    Indeed, receiving a mouthful (Psalm 81:10) of manna from GOD will only
    make His http://WDJW.great-site.net/Redeemed want even more, so that
    we're even http://bit.ly/wonderfully_hungrier with all glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD.

    Laus DEO !

    Proverbs
    13:25 The righteous has enough to satisfy his appetite, But the stomach of >the wicked is in need.

    Indeed, the righteous know to be satisfied (Luke 6:21a) with an omer
    (Exodus 16:16) of manna, while the wicked need (Proverbs 13:25) this
    knowledge as evident by their eating until they are full (i.e.
    satiated).

    Joel
    2:26 And ye shall eat in plenty, and be satisfied, and praise the name of
    the LORD your God, that hath dealt wondrously with you: and my
    people shall never be ashamed.

    Indeed, an omer (32 ounces per Revelation 6:6) of manna is plenty
    (Joel 2:26) with all glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD and to
    the shame of you, who are eternally (Mark 3:29) condemned.

    Laus DEO ! !

    Psalms
    107 For he satisfies the thirsty and fills the hungry with good things.

    Indeed, being filled (Psalm 107:9) with an omer (Exodus 16:16) of
    manna is a Wonderful (Isaiah 9:6) thing while being satiated (i.e.
    full) is evil.

    Acts
    14:17 "Yet he did not leave himself without witness, for he did good by >giving you rains from heaven and fruitful seasons, satisfying
    your hearts with food and gladness."

    In the interim, you, who are eternally (Mark 3:29) condemned, will
    never be satisfied (Acts 14:17) because you are ever more cursed
    (Jeremiah 17:5) by GOD.

    Source: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/uCPb3ldOv5M/KgM8NFKuAQAJ

    +++

    someone eternally condemned & ever more cursed by GOD perseverated:
    HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

    Subject: a very very very simple definition of sin ...

    Source: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/mXmFD9kIocc/y8GNXircBQAJ

    Does andrew's "definition" agree with scripture? Let's see in 1 John:

    Actually, sin is **not** defined in 1 John 1:8-10

    John wrote this to christians. The greek grammer (sic) speaks of an ongoing >> status. He includes himself in that status.

    John was a Jew instead of a Greek so there is really no reason to
    think that Greek grammar is relevant here.

    1:8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is
    not in us.

    1:9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, >> and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

    1:10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is >> not in us.

    John also wrote earlier at John 5:14 that LORD Jesus commands:

    "Now stop sinning or something worse may happen to you." (John 5:14)

    And, indeed, your being eternally condemned (Mark 3:29) & ever more
    cursed (Jeremiah 17:5) by GOD, as evident by your ever worsening
    cognitive deficits, is really worse.

    Now again, here's how to really stop sinning as LORD Jesus commands
    (John 5:14):

    https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/2-Qpn-o81J4/ldGubKEZAgAJ

    While wonderfully hungry ( http://bit.ly/Philippians4_12 ) in the Holy
    Spirit, Who causes (Deuteronomy 8:3) me to hunger right now (Luke
    6:21a), I again pray (2 Chronicles 7:14) that GOD continues to curse
    (Jeremiah 17:5) you, who are eternally condemned (Mark 3:29), more
    than ever in the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Amen.

    Laus DEO ! ! !

    Again, this is done in hopes of convincing all reading this to stop
    being http://bit.ly/terribly_hungry (2 Kings 6:29) where all are in
    danger of becoming eternally condemned (Mark 3:29) just as had
    happened to Ananias and Sapphira and more contemporaneously to Bob
    Pastorio.

    Again, the LORD did strike down http://bit.ly/Bob_Pastorio on Fool's
    day just 9+ years ago:

    http://bobs-amanuensis.livejournal.com/8728.html

    Again, this is done ...

    http://bit.ly/HeartDocAndrew touts hunger (Luke 6:21a) with all glory
    ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD, Who causes us to hunger
    (Deuteronomy 8:3) when He blesses us right now (Luke 6:21a) thereby
    removing the http://WDJW.great-site.net/VAT from around the heart

    ...because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart,

    HeartDoc Andrew <><
    --
    Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
    Cardiologist with an http://bit.ly/EternalMedicalLicense
    2028 & upwards non-partisan candidate for U.S. President: http://WonderfullyHungry.org
    and author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
    http://bit.ly/HeartDocAndrewCare
    which is the only **healthy** cure for the U.S. healthcare crisis

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  • From Loose Cannon@21:1/5 to MEjercit@HotMail.com on Mon Dec 9 13:47:50 2024
    XPost: alt.bible.prophecy, soc.culture.usa, soc.culture.israel
    XPost: alt.christnet.christianlife

    On Mon, 9 Dec 2024 07:16:07 -0800, Michael Ejercito
    <MEjercit@HotMail.com> wrote:

    HeartDoc Andrew wrote:
    Michael Ejercito wrote:
    HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
    Michael Ejercito wrote:

    https://www.reddit.com/r/LockdownSkepticism/comments/1h9ceng/deaths_of_despair_vs_covid_death/


    Deaths of Despair vs. Covid Death
    Public Health
    I remember thinking, if we increase deaths of despair (DoD) even 20% >>>>> with lockdowns, we're likely already exceeding any any COVID deaths of >>>>> young people.

    Not going through a whole CDC wonder export this time, just using
    ChatGPT. So not perfect data or comparison, but enlightening.

    The average age of DoD is about 36, mainly in 25-49 age group. Average >>>>> COVID death 78.

    DEATHS OF DESPAIR (US) from ChatGPT (all, not broken down by age bracket >>>>> unfortunately):

    2010: Approximately 80,000

    2011: ~85,000 deaths.

    2012: ~90,000 deaths.

    2013: ~95,000 deaths.

    2014: ~102,000 deaths.

    2015: ~110,000 deaths.

    2016: ~118,000 deaths.

    2017: ~127,000 deaths.

    2018: ~130,000 deaths. (Slowing increase)

    2019: ~132,000 deaths. (Slowing still)

    2020: ~155,000 deaths. (Lockdown)

    2021: ~176,000 deaths.

    2022: ~211,000+ (incomplete, this is the tally so far)

    2023: "early data suggesting similar or slightly exceeding 2022."

    2024: "likely to remain around 200,000"

    Compare to COVID DEATHS UNDER 50

    2020: ~11,600 deaths.

    2021: ~19,900 deaths.

    2022: ~5,300 deaths.

    2023: Estimated 2,200 deaths.

    2024: Won't give me data easily, but suggests trending down. Let's say >>>>> ~2,000.

    At a glance, I'm seeing likely 250,000+/- additional deaths of despair >>>>> 2020-2024... mostly 25-49 demographic, about 5x the covid mortality in >>>>> that group... who all got it anyway.

    Obviously more nuance than this, covid death stats unreliable, etc., but >>>>> pretty confident my initial reaction was one to consider before burning >>>>> everything down and treating despair like an inconvenience.

    Again, sacrificing the young (DoD avg. victim 36) for the elderly (Covid >>>>> avg. victim 78).

    Those who hope (Isaiah 40:31) in the LORD Who is our #1 perfect
    (Matthew 5:48) Example of living http://WonderfullyHungry.org (Luke
    24:42-3) have peace (Galatians 5:22-3) from the "Prince of Peace"
    (Isaiah 9:6) instead of despair.

    Indeed, I am http://WonderfullyHungry.org (Philippians 4:12) for food
    right now (Luke 6:21a) and hope you, Michael, and others reading this, >>>> also have a healthy appetite for food right now too.

    So how are you ?

    I am wonderfully hungry!

    While wonderfully hungry in the Holy Spirit, Who causes (Deuteronomy
    8:3) us to hunger, I note that you, Michael, are rapture ready (Luke
    17:37 means no COVID just as eagles circling over their food have no
    COVID) and pray (2 Chronicles 7:14) that our Everlasting (Isaiah 9:6)
    Father in Heaven continues to give us "much more" (Luke 11:13) Holy
    Spirit (Galatians 5:22-23) so that we'd have much more of His Help to
    always say/write that we're "wonderfully hungry" in **all** ways
    including especially caring to "convince it forward" (John 15:12) with
    all glory (Psalm112:1) to GOD (aka HaShem, Elohim, Abba, DEO), in
    the name (John 16:23) of LORD Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Amen.

    Laus DEO !

    Thank you for noting that I have no COVID.


    You are choosing to believe someone whose own state REVOKED his
    license to practice medicine. The fact that he has tried to practice
    without benefit of license is illegal. That makes him a criminal. That
    makes you an idiot for listening to a quack. If he says you don't have
    Covid, go get tested. While you're there, get tested for monkeypox
    too. Those nights you spent at the Queen Mary parking lot might be
    haunting you.








    Michael

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  • From HeartDoc Andrew@21:1/5 to All on Mon Dec 9 14:24:14 2024
    XPost: alt.bible.prophecy, soc.culture.usa, soc.culture.israel
    XPost: alt.christnet.christianlife

    <Hope> 12/09/24 Loose/KK againX2 vainjangling (1 Tim 1:6) ...

    https://groups.google.com/g/sci.med.cardiology/c/4tIJn_I167w/m/bKWQRUarAgAJ

    Link to post explicating vainjangling by the eternally condemned: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/O23NguTslhI/-xLGqnNjAAAJ

    "Like a moth to flame, the eternally condemned tragically return to be
    ever more cursed by GOD."

    Behold in wide-eyed wonder and amazement at the continued fulfillment
    of this prophecy as clearly demonstrated within the following USENET
    threads:

    (1) Link to thread titled "LORD Jesus Christ of Nazareth is our #1
    Example of being wonderfully hungry;"

    https://groups.google.com/g/sci.med.cardiology/c/_iVmOb7q3_Q/m/E8L7TNNtAgAJ

    (2) Link to thread titled "Being wonderfully hungry;"

    https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/sci.med.cardiology/uCPb3ldOv5M

    (3) Link to thread titled "A very very very simple definition of sin;"

    https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.bible.prophecy/xunFWhan_AM

    (4) Link to thread titled "The LORD says 'Blessed are you who hunger
    now;'"

    https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.bible.prophecy/e4sW8dr44rM

    (5) Link to thread titled "Being wonderfully hungry like LORD Jesus;"

    https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/xPY1Uzl-ZNk/QeKLDNCpCwAJ

    ... for the continued benefit (Romans 8:28) of those of us who are http://WonderfullyHungry.org like GOD ( http://bit.ly/Lk2442 ) with
    all glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to the LORD.

    Source: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/O23NguTslhI/pIZcsOCJBwAJ

    Laus DEO !

    While wonderfully hungry ( http://bit.ly/Philippians4_12 ) in the Holy
    Spirit, Who causes (Deuteronomy 8:3) me to hunger right now (Luke
    6:21a), I pray (2 Chronicles 7:14) that GOD continues to curse
    (Jeremiah 17:5) you, who are eternally condemned (Mark 3:29), more
    than ever in the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Amen.

    Laus DEO ! ! !

    Bottom line: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/O23NguTslhI/h5lE-mr0DAAJ

    <begin trichotomy>

    (1) Born-again (John 3:3 & 5) humans - Folks who have GOD's Help (i.e.
    Holy Spirit) to stop (John 5:14) sinning by being
    http://WonderfullyHungry.org (Philippians 4:12) **but** are still
    able to choose via their own "free will" to be instead http://bit.ly/terribly_hungry (Genesis 25:32) trapped in the
    entangling (Hebrews 12:1) deadly (i.e. killed immortals Adam&Eve) sin
    of gluttony (Proverbs 23:2).

    (2) Eternally condemned (Mark 3:29) humans - Folks who will never have
    GOD's Help (i.e. Holy Spirit) to stop being
    http://bit.ly/terribly_hungry (2 Kings 6:29) as evident by their
    constant vainjangling (1 Timothy 1:6) about everything except how to
    stop (John 5:14) sinning.

    (3) Perishing humans - The remaining folks who may possibly (Matthew
    19:26) become born-again (John 3:3 & 5) as new (2 Corinthians 5:17)
    creatures in Christ.

    <end trichotomy>

    Suggested further reading:
    http://T3WiJ.com

    +++

    someone eternally condemned & ever more cursed by GOD wrote:
    HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

    Subject: The LORD says "Blessed are you who hunger now ..."

    Source: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/e4sW8dr44rM/NSkTJxvFBAAJ

    Shame on andrew, look at his red face.

    LIE.

    The color of my face in **not** visible here on USENET nor is the
    color of my face red for those who can see me.

    He is trying to pull a fast one. His scripture bit is found among these:

    '14 Bible verses about Spiritual Hunger'

    Such are the lies coming from the lying pens of the http://bit.ly/terribly_hungry (Genesis 25:32) commentators.

    That which is "spiritual" is independent of time so that there
    would've been no reference to "now."

    Therefore, the LORD is referring to physical hunger here instead of
    the spiritual "hunger and thirst for righteousness" elsewhere in
    Scripture.

    Indeed, physical hunger can **not** coexist with physical thirst
    because the latter results in the loss of saliva needed for physical
    hunger.

    It is when we hunger for food "now" (Luke 6:21a) that we are able to
    eat food "now."

    No such time constraints exist for "spiritual hunger."

    Moreover, the perspective of Luke 6:21a through the eyes of a
    physician (i.e. Dr. Luke) would be logically expected to be physical
    instead of spiritual.

    All glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD for His compelling you
    to unwittingly demonstrate your ever worsening cognitive condition
    which is tragically a consequence of His cursing (Jeremiah 17:5) you
    more than ever.

    Laus DEO !

    +++

    someone eternally condemned & ever more cursed by GOD perseverated:
    (in a vain attempt to refute posts about being wonderfully hungry)

    Psalms
    81:10 I am the LORD thy God, which brought thee out of the land of Egypt: >open thy mouth wide, and I will fill it.

    Indeed, receiving a mouthful (Psalm 81:10) of manna from GOD will only
    make His http://WDJW.great-site.net/Redeemed want even more, so that
    we're even http://bit.ly/wonderfully_hungrier with all glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD.

    Laus DEO !

    Proverbs
    13:25 The righteous has enough to satisfy his appetite, But the stomach of >the wicked is in need.

    Indeed, the righteous know to be satisfied (Luke 6:21a) with an omer
    (Exodus 16:16) of manna, while the wicked need (Proverbs 13:25) this
    knowledge as evident by their eating until they are full (i.e.
    satiated).

    Joel
    2:26 And ye shall eat in plenty, and be satisfied, and praise the name of
    the LORD your God, that hath dealt wondrously with you: and my
    people shall never be ashamed.

    Indeed, an omer (32 ounces per Revelation 6:6) of manna is plenty
    (Joel 2:26) with all glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD and to
    the shame of you, who are eternally (Mark 3:29) condemned.

    Laus DEO ! !

    Psalms
    107 For he satisfies the thirsty and fills the hungry with good things.

    Indeed, being filled (Psalm 107:9) with an omer (Exodus 16:16) of
    manna is a Wonderful (Isaiah 9:6) thing while being satiated (i.e.
    full) is evil.

    Acts
    14:17 "Yet he did not leave himself without witness, for he did good by >giving you rains from heaven and fruitful seasons, satisfying
    your hearts with food and gladness."

    In the interim, you, who are eternally (Mark 3:29) condemned, will
    never be satisfied (Acts 14:17) because you are ever more cursed
    (Jeremiah 17:5) by GOD.

    Source: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/uCPb3ldOv5M/KgM8NFKuAQAJ

    +++

    someone eternally condemned & ever more cursed by GOD perseverated:
    HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

    Subject: a very very very simple definition of sin ...

    Source: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/mXmFD9kIocc/y8GNXircBQAJ

    Does andrew's "definition" agree with scripture? Let's see in 1 John:

    Actually, sin is **not** defined in 1 John 1:8-10

    John wrote this to christians. The greek grammer (sic) speaks of an ongoing >> status. He includes himself in that status.

    John was a Jew instead of a Greek so there is really no reason to
    think that Greek grammar is relevant here.

    1:8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is
    not in us.

    1:9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, >> and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

    1:10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is >> not in us.

    John also wrote earlier at John 5:14 that LORD Jesus commands:

    "Now stop sinning or something worse may happen to you." (John 5:14)

    And, indeed, your being eternally condemned (Mark 3:29) & ever more
    cursed (Jeremiah 17:5) by GOD, as evident by your ever worsening
    cognitive deficits, is really worse.

    Now again, here's how to really stop sinning as LORD Jesus commands
    (John 5:14):

    https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/2-Qpn-o81J4/ldGubKEZAgAJ

    While wonderfully hungry ( http://bit.ly/Philippians4_12 ) in the Holy
    Spirit, Who causes (Deuteronomy 8:3) me to hunger right now (Luke
    6:21a), I again pray (2 Chronicles 7:14) that GOD continues to curse
    (Jeremiah 17:5) you, who are eternally condemned (Mark 3:29), more
    than ever in the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Amen.

    Laus DEO ! ! !

    Again, this is done in hopes of convincing all reading this to stop
    being http://bit.ly/terribly_hungry (2 Kings 6:29) where all are in
    danger of becoming eternally condemned (Mark 3:29) just as had
    happened to Ananias and Sapphira and more contemporaneously to Bob
    Pastorio.

    Again, the LORD did strike down http://bit.ly/Bob_Pastorio on Fool's
    day just 9+ years ago:

    http://bobs-amanuensis.livejournal.com/8728.html

    Again, this is done ...

    http://bit.ly/HeartDocAndrew touts hunger (Luke 6:21a) with all glory
    ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD, Who causes us to hunger
    (Deuteronomy 8:3) when He blesses us right now (Luke 6:21a) thereby
    removing the http://WDJW.great-site.net/VAT from around the heart

    ...because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart,

    HeartDoc Andrew <><
    --
    Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
    Cardiologist with an http://bit.ly/EternalMedicalLicense
    2028 & upwards non-partisan candidate for U.S. President: http://WonderfullyHungry.org
    and author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
    http://bit.ly/HeartDocAndrewCare
    which is the only **healthy** cure for the U.S. healthcare crisis

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  • From HeartDoc Andrew@21:1/5 to All on Fri Dec 13 11:22:06 2024
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    XPost: alt.christnet.christianlife

    (Hope) 12/13/24 Again praying w/ MichaelE here ...

    https://narkive.com/246Wtu6f.8

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  • From HeartDoc Andrew@21:1/5 to All on Fri Dec 13 11:23:48 2024
    XPost: alt.bible.prophecy, soc.culture.usa, soc.culture.israel
    XPost: alt.christnet.christianlife

    <Hope> 12/13/24 Loose/KK again vainjangling (1 Tim 1:6) ...

    https://groups.google.com/g/sci.med.cardiology/c/4tIJn_I167w/m/bKWQRUarAgAJ

    Link to post explicating vainjangling by the eternally condemned: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/O23NguTslhI/-xLGqnNjAAAJ

    "Like a moth to flame, the eternally condemned tragically return to be
    ever more cursed by GOD."

    Behold in wide-eyed wonder and amazement at the continued fulfillment
    of this prophecy as clearly demonstrated within the following USENET
    threads:

    (1) Link to thread titled "LORD Jesus Christ of Nazareth is our #1
    Example of being wonderfully hungry;"

    https://groups.google.com/g/sci.med.cardiology/c/_iVmOb7q3_Q/m/E8L7TNNtAgAJ

    (2) Link to thread titled "Being wonderfully hungry;"

    https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/sci.med.cardiology/uCPb3ldOv5M

    (3) Link to thread titled "A very very very simple definition of sin;"

    https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.bible.prophecy/xunFWhan_AM

    (4) Link to thread titled "The LORD says 'Blessed are you who hunger
    now;'"

    https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.bible.prophecy/e4sW8dr44rM

    (5) Link to thread titled "Being wonderfully hungry like LORD Jesus;"

    https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/xPY1Uzl-ZNk/QeKLDNCpCwAJ

    ... for the continued benefit (Romans 8:28) of those of us who are http://WonderfullyHungry.org like GOD ( http://bit.ly/Lk2442 ) with
    all glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to the LORD.

    Source: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/O23NguTslhI/pIZcsOCJBwAJ

    Laus DEO !

    While wonderfully hungry ( http://bit.ly/Philippians4_12 ) in the Holy
    Spirit, Who causes (Deuteronomy 8:3) me to hunger right now (Luke
    6:21a), I pray (2 Chronicles 7:14) that GOD continues to curse
    (Jeremiah 17:5) you, who are eternally condemned (Mark 3:29), more
    than ever in the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Amen.

    Laus DEO ! ! !

    Bottom line: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/O23NguTslhI/h5lE-mr0DAAJ

    <begin trichotomy>

    (1) Born-again (John 3:3 & 5) humans - Folks who have GOD's Help (i.e.
    Holy Spirit) to stop (John 5:14) sinning by being
    http://WonderfullyHungry.org (Philippians 4:12) **but** are still
    able to choose via their own "free will" to be instead http://bit.ly/terribly_hungry (Genesis 25:32) trapped in the
    entangling (Hebrews 12:1) deadly (i.e. killed immortals Adam&Eve) sin
    of gluttony (Proverbs 23:2).

    (2) Eternally condemned (Mark 3:29) humans - Folks who will never have
    GOD's Help (i.e. Holy Spirit) to stop being
    http://bit.ly/terribly_hungry (2 Kings 6:29) as evident by their
    constant vainjangling (1 Timothy 1:6) about everything except how to
    stop (John 5:14) sinning.

    (3) Perishing humans - The remaining folks who may possibly (Matthew
    19:26) become born-again (John 3:3 & 5) as new (2 Corinthians 5:17)
    creatures in Christ.

    <end trichotomy>

    Suggested further reading:
    http://T3WiJ.com

    +++

    someone eternally condemned & ever more cursed by GOD wrote:
    HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

    Subject: The LORD says "Blessed are you who hunger now ..."

    Source: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/e4sW8dr44rM/NSkTJxvFBAAJ

    Shame on andrew, look at his red face.

    LIE.

    The color of my face in **not** visible here on USENET nor is the
    color of my face red for those who can see me.

    He is trying to pull a fast one. His scripture bit is found among these:

    '14 Bible verses about Spiritual Hunger'

    Such are the lies coming from the lying pens of the http://bit.ly/terribly_hungry (Genesis 25:32) commentators.

    That which is "spiritual" is independent of time so that there
    would've been no reference to "now."

    Therefore, the LORD is referring to physical hunger here instead of
    the spiritual "hunger and thirst for righteousness" elsewhere in
    Scripture.

    Indeed, physical hunger can **not** coexist with physical thirst
    because the latter results in the loss of saliva needed for physical
    hunger.

    It is when we hunger for food "now" (Luke 6:21a) that we are able to
    eat food "now."

    No such time constraints exist for "spiritual hunger."

    Moreover, the perspective of Luke 6:21a through the eyes of a
    physician (i.e. Dr. Luke) would be logically expected to be physical
    instead of spiritual.

    All glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD for His compelling you
    to unwittingly demonstrate your ever worsening cognitive condition
    which is tragically a consequence of His cursing (Jeremiah 17:5) you
    more than ever.

    Laus DEO !

    +++

    someone eternally condemned & ever more cursed by GOD perseverated:
    (in a vain attempt to refute posts about being wonderfully hungry)

    Psalms
    81:10 I am the LORD thy God, which brought thee out of the land of Egypt: >open thy mouth wide, and I will fill it.

    Indeed, receiving a mouthful (Psalm 81:10) of manna from GOD will only
    make His http://WDJW.great-site.net/Redeemed want even more, so that
    we're even http://bit.ly/wonderfully_hungrier with all glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD.

    Laus DEO !

    Proverbs
    13:25 The righteous has enough to satisfy his appetite, But the stomach of >the wicked is in need.

    Indeed, the righteous know to be satisfied (Luke 6:21a) with an omer
    (Exodus 16:16) of manna, while the wicked need (Proverbs 13:25) this
    knowledge as evident by their eating until they are full (i.e.
    satiated).

    Joel
    2:26 And ye shall eat in plenty, and be satisfied, and praise the name of
    the LORD your God, that hath dealt wondrously with you: and my
    people shall never be ashamed.

    Indeed, an omer (32 ounces per Revelation 6:6) of manna is plenty
    (Joel 2:26) with all glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD and to
    the shame of you, who are eternally (Mark 3:29) condemned.

    Laus DEO ! !

    Psalms
    107 For he satisfies the thirsty and fills the hungry with good things.

    Indeed, being filled (Psalm 107:9) with an omer (Exodus 16:16) of
    manna is a Wonderful (Isaiah 9:6) thing while being satiated (i.e.
    full) is evil.

    Acts
    14:17 "Yet he did not leave himself without witness, for he did good by >giving you rains from heaven and fruitful seasons, satisfying
    your hearts with food and gladness."

    In the interim, you, who are eternally (Mark 3:29) condemned, will
    never be satisfied (Acts 14:17) because you are ever more cursed
    (Jeremiah 17:5) by GOD.

    Source: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/uCPb3ldOv5M/KgM8NFKuAQAJ

    +++

    someone eternally condemned & ever more cursed by GOD perseverated:
    HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

    Subject: a very very very simple definition of sin ...

    Source: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/mXmFD9kIocc/y8GNXircBQAJ

    Does andrew's "definition" agree with scripture? Let's see in 1 John:

    Actually, sin is **not** defined in 1 John 1:8-10

    John wrote this to christians. The greek grammer (sic) speaks of an ongoing >> status. He includes himself in that status.

    John was a Jew instead of a Greek so there is really no reason to
    think that Greek grammar is relevant here.

    1:8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is
    not in us.

    1:9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, >> and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

    1:10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is >> not in us.

    John also wrote earlier at John 5:14 that LORD Jesus commands:

    "Now stop sinning or something worse may happen to you." (John 5:14)

    And, indeed, your being eternally condemned (Mark 3:29) & ever more
    cursed (Jeremiah 17:5) by GOD, as evident by your ever worsening
    cognitive deficits, is really worse.

    Now again, here's how to really stop sinning as LORD Jesus commands
    (John 5:14):

    https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/2-Qpn-o81J4/ldGubKEZAgAJ

    While wonderfully hungry ( http://bit.ly/Philippians4_12 ) in the Holy
    Spirit, Who causes (Deuteronomy 8:3) me to hunger right now (Luke
    6:21a), I again pray (2 Chronicles 7:14) that GOD continues to curse
    (Jeremiah 17:5) you, who are eternally condemned (Mark 3:29), more
    than ever in the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Amen.

    Laus DEO ! ! !

    Again, this is done in hopes of convincing all reading this to stop
    being http://bit.ly/terribly_hungry (2 Kings 6:29) where all are in
    danger of becoming eternally condemned (Mark 3:29) just as had
    happened to Ananias and Sapphira and more contemporaneously to Bob
    Pastorio.

    Again, the LORD did strike down http://bit.ly/Bob_Pastorio on Fool's
    day just 9+ years ago:

    http://bobs-amanuensis.livejournal.com/8728.html

    Again, this is done ...

    http://bit.ly/HeartDocAndrew touts hunger (Luke 6:21a) with all glory
    ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD, Who causes us to hunger
    (Deuteronomy 8:3) when He blesses us right now (Luke 6:21a) thereby
    removing the http://WDJW.great-site.net/VAT from around the heart

    ...because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart,

    HeartDoc Andrew <><
    --
    Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
    Cardiologist with an http://bit.ly/EternalMedicalLicense
    2028 & upwards non-partisan candidate for U.S. President: http://WonderfullyHungry.org
    and author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
    http://bit.ly/HeartDocAndrewCare
    which is the only **healthy** cure for the U.S. healthcare crisis

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