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  • Re: Yes, Jesus believed He is God

    From Michael Ejercito@21:1/5 to Christ Rose on Thu Mar 27 05:06:23 2025
    XPost: alt.christnet.christnews, soc.culture.israel

    Christ Rose wrote:
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    Tue, 25 Mar 2025 08:53:19 -0400
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    "Sincerely" James <zebrabible@proton.me> wrote: ========================================
    [snip cancerous, poison lies]

    1. “Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I am.” (John 8:58, ESV)

    — Jesus applies the divine name “I AM” to Himself, identifying with the name God used in Exodus 3:14.

    2. “I and the Father are one.” (John 10:30, ESV)

    — Jesus claims unity of essence with the Father, not merely unity of purpose.

    3. “Whoever has seen me has seen the Father.” (John 14:9, ESV)

    — Jesus equates seeing Him with seeing the invisible God.

    4. “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me.” (Matthew 28:18, ESV)

    — Jesus declares total sovereign authority, which belongs only to God.

    5. “For as the Father raises the dead and gives them life, so also the
    Son gives life to whom he will.” (John 5:21, ESV)

    — Jesus claims the divine prerogative to give life.

    6. “For the Son of Man is lord of the Sabbath.” (Matthew 12:8, ESV)

    — Jesus claims lordship over the Sabbath, a divine institution
    established by God.

    7. “Your sins are forgiven.” (Mark 2:5, ESV)

    — Followed by the charge: “Who can forgive sins but God alone?” (Mark 2:7, ESV)

    — Jesus exercises a divine right, and affirms it by healing the man to prove His authority.

    8. “I am the first and the last.” (Revelation 1:17, ESV)
    — A divine title used by God in Isaiah 44:6, here claimed by the risen Christ.

    9. “I am the Alpha and the Omega, the beginning and the end.”
    (Revelation 22:13, ESV)

    — Jesus claims eternal, divine identity as the origin and goal of all things.

    10. “He who has seen me has seen the Father.” (John 14:9, ESV)

    — Jesus reveals the Father because He shares the same divine nature.

    These statements make sense only if Jesus believed He is truly God—almighty, eternal, and equal with the Father.

    You got that right!


    Michael

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  • From HeartDoc Andrew@21:1/5 to Michael Ejercito on Thu Mar 27 08:35:39 2025
    XPost: alt.christnet.christnews, soc.culture.israel, alt.bible.prophecy
    XPost: alt.christnet.christianlife

    Michael Ejercito wrote:

    perishing Christ Rose nymshifter wrote:
    ========================================
    Tue, 25 Mar 2025 08:53:19 -0400
    <do95ujpcfjseuaursbu42l209v8u0oipnd@4ax.com>
    "Sincerely" James <zebrabible@proton.me> wrote:
    ========================================
    [snip cancerous, poison lies]

    1. Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I am. (John 8:58, ESV) >>
    Jesus applies the divine name I AM to Himself, identifying with the
    name God used in Exodus 3:14.

    2. I and the Father are one. (John 10:30, ESV)

    Jesus claims unity of essence with the Father, not merely unity of
    purpose.

    3. Whoever has seen me has seen the Father. (John 14:9, ESV)

    Jesus equates seeing Him with seeing the invisible God.

    4. All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. (Matthew
    28:18, ESV)

    Jesus declares total sovereign authority, which belongs only to God.

    5. For as the Father raises the dead and gives them life, so also the
    Son gives life to whom he will. (John 5:21, ESV)

    Jesus claims the divine prerogative to give life.

    6. For the Son of Man is lord of the Sabbath. (Matthew 12:8, ESV)

    Jesus claims lordship over the Sabbath, a divine institution
    established by God.

    7. Your sins are forgiven. (Mark 2:5, ESV)

    Followed by the charge: Who can forgive sins but God alone? (Mark
    2:7, ESV)

    Jesus exercises a divine right, and affirms it by healing the man to
    prove His authority.

    8. I am the first and the last. (Revelation 1:17, ESV)
    A divine title used by God in Isaiah 44:6, here claimed by the risen
    Christ.

    9. I am the Alpha and the Omega, the beginning and the end.
    (Revelation 22:13, ESV)

    Jesus claims eternal, divine identity as the origin and goal of all
    things.

    10. He who has seen me has seen the Father. (John 14:9, ESV)

    Jesus reveals the Father because He shares the same divine nature.

    These statements make sense only if Jesus believed He is truly
    Godalmighty, eternal, and equal with the Father.

    You got that right!

    It is written that all scripture is GOD-breathed and useful for
    training in righteousness.

    In the interim, I am simply http://WonderfullyHungry.org (Philippians
    4:12) for food right now (Luke 6:21a) and hope you, Michael, and
    others reading this, have a healthy appetite for food right now too.

    So how are you ?

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  • From Loose Cannon@21:1/5 to disciple@T3WiJ.com on Fri Mar 28 16:45:06 2025
    XPost: alt.christnet.chrislife, soc.culture.israel, alt.bible.prophecy
    XPost: alt.christnet.christianlife

    On Thu, 27 Mar 2025 08:35:39 -0400, HeartDoc Andrew
    <disciple@T3WiJ.com> wrote:

    Michael Ejercito wrote:

    <DELETE MINDLESS GOOK RAMBLING>

    So how are you ?


    The fat fuck is doing fine. He has so far managed to evade ICE
    enforcement. But it won't be long. Same with you, quack. They will get
    you soner or later

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