• A Ragtag Group of Covid Truth-Tellers Go to Washington

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    A Ragtag Group of Covid Truth-Tellers Go to Washington

    Kelley Krohnert, a wife and mother who lives just outside Atlanta,
    started a website in 2020 to hold government agencies accountable for
    their Covid data. (Kendrick Brinson for The Free Press)
    During the pandemic, they were ostracized. Now, they’re influencing
    public policy.
    By Carrie McKean
    05.14.25 — Health and Self-Improvement
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    Earlier this week, we ran a collection of pieces by the new leaders of
    American public health—doctors Jay Bhattacharya, Marty Makary, and Vinay Prasad—all of whom just happen to have contributed to The Free Press.
    Five years ago, they raised serious questions in our pages about
    lockdowns, shuttered schools, and vaccine mandates—questions for which
    they were vilified. Now, all of them have been not only vindicated, but promoted to some of the highest offices in public health. But these
    leaders are only part of the story. Behind them is a ragtag group of
    ordinary Americans who also asked questions during the Covid era, and
    kept asking them, even though they were belittled, discredited, and
    ostracized. In today’s piece, reporter Carrie McKean profiles these individuals, and asks them: How can we move forward? How can these new
    leaders restore our faith in public health?
    —The Editors


    Five years ago, Kelley Krohnert, a wife and mother who lives just
    outside Atlanta and runs a small photography business, was, like most of
    us, filled with dread and confusion. It was the early days of Covid. At
    the time, the Georgia Health Department wasn’t keeping a public record
    of the number of cases. So Kelley, who’s in her forties, began plugging numbers she saw on the news into her own spreadsheet and started a
    website, Covid-Georgia.com, to share her data, gaining a wide following
    on Twitter (now X) under the handle @KelleyKGa.

    It didn’t take long for Krohnert to start noticing statistical errors,
    which grew only more common as time went on. The CDC’s own “unofficial” Covid Data Tracker of cases from across the nation often reported higher pediatric death counts than the official numbers on the National Center
    for Health Statistics website. And the media often reported those higher numbers. As time went on, the CDC reported that 4 percent of Covid
    deaths were children, when their own data showed it was .04 percent. In
    2022, she discovered that a frightening study cited by the CDC during
    its push for a pediatric Covid vaccine vastly inflated the disease’s
    risk to children; for example, it compared 26 months of Covid-associated
    deaths to one year of deaths from other causes.


    “These were mistakes and errors a middle-school student wouldn’t make,” Krohnert said of errors she found in CDC Covid data. (Angela Weiss/AFP
    via Getty Images)
    “These were mistakes and errors a middle-school student wouldn’t make,” Krohnert told me. She didn’t start out with any inherent suspicion of
    the government. She expected officials to be a trusted source of
    information and to deliver level-headed guidance. But the more she
    burrowed into the Covid numbers, the more problems she saw. And
    remarkably, all the errors she identified made things seem worse and
    more dangerous than they were.

    Krohnert did get some recognition and vindication. After she alerted the authors of the study about their errors regarding Covid’s risks to
    children, they immediately made corrections, and the CDC eventually
    stopped claiming Covid was one of the top five killers of children. Yet Krohnert said the agency never responded to her directly. It also
    characterized her as just “a person with a web page or a blog” in an
    email that became public following an FOIA request to the study’s
    authors. And it plowed ahead with approval of the childhood Covid
    vaccine. After Krohnert replied to a post by Surgeon General Jerome
    Adams that defended Covid vaccine trials, he posted a thread. “You trust
    your electrician / plumber / tax preparer. You should trust your doc,”
    Adams wrote.

    As for the inflated case numbers? Eventually, the CDC quietly removed
    72,277 misattributed deaths from the Covid Data Tracker, a data
    correction attributed to Krohnert’s advocacy by The BMJ (formerly the
    British Medical Journal).

    Looking back now through the fog of Covid, it is easy to overlook the
    data nerds, virologists, epidemiologists, and ordinary citizens like
    Krohnert who, scattered across the country, doggedly fact-checked the
    U.S. government. For their efforts, they were censored and shadow-banned
    on social media, scorned by polite society, and discredited as
    dangerous, science-denying conspiracy theorists by high-level government officials and the mainstream media. But they persisted, and 40 to 50 of
    them eventually connected on Twitter, creating an informal group they
    dubbed “Rational Ground/Team Reality.”


    In 2022, Kelly Krohnert discovered that a study cited by the CDC during
    its push for a pediatric Covid vaccine vastly inflated the disease’s
    risk to children. (Michael Nagle/Xinhua via Getty Images)
    And since then, times have changed. Today, Team Reality is seeing their recommendations adopted by the federal government.

    One of the medical experts who broke with the consensus during the
    pandemic and joined forces with Rational Ground, Dr. Jay Bhattacharya, a professor of health policy at Stanford University School of Medicine, is
    now the director of the National Institutes of Health. Two weeks ago, in
    one of his first official actions, Bhattacharya announced that the NIH
    will accelerate the rollout of a plan to make available to the public
    all data gathered from taxpayer-funded NIH scientific research studies.
    It’s a policy recommendation consistently put forth by members of
    Rational Ground.

    “I believe very strongly that the products and data produced by
    scientific projects paid for by the public should be available to the public,” Bhattacharya told me in an email. Just 26 percent of Americans
    have a great deal of confidence that scientists are working for the
    public good, a recent poll found. Bhattacharya said rebuilding that
    fractured trust is at the core of what he must accomplish in his new job.


    “It was a kind of pinch-me moment,” said Justin Hart, a 53-year-old data and marketing consultant based in San Diego, about a gathering a few
    weeks ago with Bhattacharya near Washington to celebrate the appointment
    of the “fringe epidemiologist,” as he was baselessly called by former
    NIH director Dr. Francis Collins, to run the agency.

    Just two years ago, Hart, his wife Jenny, their toddler daughter, and Bhattacharya had walked the halls of Capitol Hill, passing out a
    one-page Rational Ground advocacy sheet and fruitlessly seeking
    conversations with lawmakers willing to consider their heterodox views.

    Hart and Bhattacharya connected in the early days of the pandemic thanks
    to mutual friends at Stanford. A small group gathered to meet after
    reading an article by Dr. John Ioannidis, a Stanford statistician and
    professor of biomedical data science. He said some of the same things
    they had all been thinking, including his warning in March 2020 that public-health officials were making consequential decisions without good
    data and calling the Covid response a potential “fiasco in the making.”

    From there, Team Reality grew. They became supporters of the Great
    Barrington Declaration, a document written by Bhattacharya and two
    colleagues, advocating for focused protection for those most vulnerable
    to Covid, and a return to close-to-normal life for the rest of society.
    The team plowed ahead with their advocacy, taking solace in their ragtag community when they faced the scorn of the mainstream.

    “We had people who were apolitical, people who were Democrats, people
    who were very conservative Republicans,” said Hart. “It’s amazing how unifying it can be when the government starts pushing around our kids
    and impinging our freedoms.”


    Matt Shapiro, who goes by the handle @PoliticalMath on X, describes
    himself as a right-of-center, “insatiably curious”
    artificial-intelligence engineer. (William DeShazer for The Free Press)
    Matt Shapiro, who goes by the handle @PoliticalMath on X and lives
    outside Atlanta, signed up early in the pandemic to process data for The Atlantic’s Covid Tracking Project, the most complete data repository of Covid’s impact in the U.S. Shapiro describes himself as a
    right-of-center, “insatiably curious” artificial-intelligence engineer
    with a background in data management, and he was eager to put his
    data-mining skills to work for the common good. His work became a
    “full-time Covid hobby,” he said. Shapiro joined other volunteers—“good people trying to do an important thing”—to input data, analyze trends,
    and make data-based recommendations to help shape public health.

    But when the data told a story that contradicted the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s recommendations, for example, that Covid spread
    as quickly in places with mask mandates as it did in places without
    them, his mostly left-leaning colleagues on the team went silent. “All
    my data friends that I had made doing all this work together were just
    like, ‘Not touching that,’ ” he recalled.

    Shapiro said he was mocked and isolated for questioning the predominant narrative that shuttering schools and businesses was lifesaving. More
    alarming to him were the massive implications such conformity had for
    society. “That’s not the story we’re telling ourselves about who we are,” he told me.


    Tracking Covid data became Matt Shapiro’s “full-time hobby” during the pandemic, he said. (William DeShazer for The Free Press)
    It was different with Rational Ground/Team Reality. Members of the group
    worked to provide data for Dr. Scott Atlas, a Covid adviser during the
    first Trump administration, who used their findings to refute CDC
    assessments at briefings. They advised governors and state-level Covid
    task forces, like that of Florida governor Ron DeSantis, and federal
    lawmakers such as Andrew Clyde of Georgia and Dan Crenshaw of Texas, all Republicans. They held regional gatherings and relentlessly pursued
    grassroots campaigns to correct and call out errors wherever they found
    them.

    In such a diverse group, there was often sharp disagreement. “We’ve had people rage-quit,” said Hart. “Like in any human endeavor, we definitely have our moments where people don’t see things in the same way, but we
    had an open forum where we felt like we could hash it out and discuss things.”


    Five years later, Team Reality is still advocating for institutional
    reforms based on what they saw during the pandemic. Under the leadership
    of Bhattacharya, some of those changes are already happening. They want safeguards to protect the American people from overreaching government authority, and they think that constraining power and increasing
    transparency will ultimately help restore trust in public health.

    To achieve this, they want public-health policy discussions to be
    robust, with dissenting voices and a comprehensive cost-benefit analysis
    of any public-health policy proposal before it becomes enforceable, even
    in emergency situations.


    “Government scientists do not have a monopoly on the truth,” NIH
    director Jay Bhattacharya told The Free Press. (Andrew Harnik via Getty
    Images)
    “Public health policy decisions need a high quality of evidence
    demonstrating a good amount of benefit for a small amount of
    imposition,” said Krohnert. “With Covid, we got the opposite:
    low-quality evidence demonstrating a small amount of benefit with
    massive impositions and untold costs.”

    They also call for radical transparency. Because CDC guidance during
    Covid was often based on desired outcomes rather than actual data-driven science, Shapiro said, data from any publicly funded study should be
    publicly available. “If you collect data with our taxpayer money, it’s
    our data, and you should have to show it to us, rather than only showing
    it if it achieves some end-policy goal,” he said.

    Bhattacharya agrees. “Government scientists do not have a monopoly on
    the truth, which is most likely to be found by a spirit of open-minded investigation, including by members of the public with access to the
    same data as public-health officials,” he told me.

    Humility is an uncommon virtue for top government officials, but
    Bhattacharya knows better than most how the experts can get things
    wrong. “On topic after topic. . . Rational Ground analysts outperformed
    and corrected government agencies,” he told me. “Rational Ground often relied on data that agencies like the CDC had made publicly available to correct the CDC itself on its misinterpretations of its own data.”


    Matt Shapiro said he was mocked and isolated for questioning the
    predominant narrative during Covid that shuttering schools and
    businesses was lifesaving. (William DeShazer for The Free Press)
    Opening the data to the public could help extremists misrepresent data
    and take it out of context, but the benefits outweigh the risks, said
    Krohnert. “Blocking access to data is not going to prevent bad actors
    from spreading misinformation. If anything, it adds fuel to the fire,
    because they can make up what they want and claim it’s from some study
    the government ‘doesn’t want you to see,’ ” she said.

    Other hoped-for reforms go far beyond data reporting. It’s about what
    gets studied to begin with. During the pandemic, policy decisions with
    enormous effects, such as universal masking or standing six feet apart,
    we now know were based on flawed research, or often just guesswork. But according to Hart, the federal health agencies resisted funding studies
    that might refute CDC recommendations.

    Then there is the matter of institutional conflicts of interest. For
    example, Hart was dismayed to learn that the same people who sit on NIH
    grant committees to decide where funding goes also make policy
    recommendations.

    Such conflicts are a problem. After watching the CDC make so many
    errors—and always in the same direction—Krohnert co-wrote a paper for
    the open-access Social Science Research Network, with Dr. Vinay Prasad,
    the new head of the Food and Drug Administration’s Center for Biologics Evaluation and Research, calling for a firewall between the government
    entities that gather statistics and those setting policy as a shield
    against “real or perceived systematic bias.”

    Krohnert also thinks there need to be better conversations about the
    nature and efficacy of CDC recommendations, which can be overly cautious
    and reflect a low tolerance for risk, such as its recommendation not to
    eat raw cookie dough. As a result, the general public often ignores the
    CDC’s advice.


    “Blocking access to data is not going to prevent bad actors from
    spreading misinformation,” Krohnert said. “If anything, it adds fuel to
    the fire.” (Kendrick Brinson for The Free Press)
    Since their recommendations can take on the force of law, official recommendations by the CDC ought to include room for dissent—or at least
    some wiggle room, depending on the circumstances, Krohnert said. For
    example, a recommendation to wear masks to prevent the spread of disease
    might come with a qualification that it might not be appropriate in
    every situation, so that pediatric speech-therapy clinics and preschools needn’t worry about getting sued for failing to follow the agency’s advice.

    And though they do want sweeping reform, Team Reality don’t want to burn
    the house down completely. Krohnert said she doesn’t want to render the
    CDC useless. Just the opposite. She believes that Americans need
    entities they can trust, though government power usually should be
    limited to the ability to recommend and not compel.

    “Public-health enforcing isolation of very sick, very contagious people
    is not particularly controversial,” she said. “But during Covid, we had public-health enforcing quarantine of healthy individuals.

    “We just seemed to skip over all the ethics of that.”

    There is, understandably, some concern that, as the editors of The Free
    Press wrote yesterday in an editorial about public health, “this administration’s approach to reform often uses a hacksaw when a scalpel
    is called for.” And yet, the people Trump has selected to lead the NIH,
    CDC, and FDA are highly credentialed, well-respected, and extremely
    competent, and they are advocating policies that are as careful as they
    are radical. “These aren’t Robespierre lieutenants being elevated to
    judge, jury, and executioner when the revolution was won,” said Hart. “These are the people who should’ve been running things in the first place.”


    Readers of The Free Press will be familiar with the names of the doctors
    just appointed to high positions overseeing the nation’s public
    health—Jay Bhattacharya, Marty Makary, and Vinay Prasad—because they
    have been writing for The FP since The FP began. You’ll find a
    compendium of their work here:

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    Michael Ejercito wrote:

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    A Ragtag Group of Covid Truth-Tellers Go to Washington

    Kelley Krohnert, a wife and mother who lives just outside Atlanta,
    started a website in 2020 to hold government agencies accountable for
    their Covid data. (Kendrick Brinson for The Free Press)
    During the pandemic, they were ostracized. Now, theyre influencing
    public policy.
    By Carrie McKean
    05.14.25 Health and Self-Improvement
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    Earlier this week, we ran a collection of pieces by the new leaders of >American public healthdoctors Jay Bhattacharya, Marty Makary, and Vinay >Prasadall of whom just happen to have contributed to The Free Press.
    Five years ago, they raised serious questions in our pages about
    lockdowns, shuttered schools, and vaccine mandatesquestions for which
    they were vilified. Now, all of them have been not only vindicated, but >promoted to some of the highest offices in public health. But these
    leaders are only part of the story. Behind them is a ragtag group of
    ordinary Americans who also asked questions during the Covid era, and
    kept asking them, even though they were belittled, discredited, and >ostracized. In todays piece, reporter Carrie McKean profiles these >individuals, and asks them: How can we move forward? How can these new >leaders restore our faith in public health?
    The Editors


    Five years ago, Kelley Krohnert, a wife and mother who lives just
    outside Atlanta and runs a small photography business, was, like most of
    us, filled with dread and confusion. It was the early days of Covid. At
    the time, the Georgia Health Department wasnt keeping a public record
    of the number of cases. So Kelley, whos in her forties, began plugging >numbers she saw on the news into her own spreadsheet and started a
    website, Covid-Georgia.com, to share her data, gaining a wide following
    on Twitter (now X) under the handle @KelleyKGa.

    It didnt take long for Krohnert to start noticing statistical errors,
    which grew only more common as time went on. The CDCs own unofficial
    Covid Data Tracker of cases from across the nation often reported higher >pediatric death counts than the official numbers on the National Center
    for Health Statistics website. And the media often reported those higher >numbers. As time went on, the CDC reported that 4 percent of Covid
    deaths were children, when their own data showed it was .04 percent. In
    2022, she discovered that a frightening study cited by the CDC during
    its push for a pediatric Covid vaccine vastly inflated the diseases
    risk to children; for example, it compared 26 months of Covid-associated >deaths to one year of deaths from other causes.


    These were mistakes and errors a middle-school student wouldnt make, >Krohnert said of errors she found in CDC Covid data. (Angela Weiss/AFP
    via Getty Images)
    These were mistakes and errors a middle-school student wouldnt make, >Krohnert told me. She didnt start out with any inherent suspicion of
    the government. She expected officials to be a trusted source of
    information and to deliver level-headed guidance. But the more she
    burrowed into the Covid numbers, the more problems she saw. And
    remarkably, all the errors she identified made things seem worse and
    more dangerous than they were.

    Krohnert did get some recognition and vindication. After she alerted the >authors of the study about their errors regarding Covids risks to
    children, they immediately made corrections, and the CDC eventually
    stopped claiming Covid was one of the top five killers of children. Yet >Krohnert said the agency never responded to her directly. It also >characterized her as just a person with a web page or a blog in an
    email that became public following an FOIA request to the studys
    authors. And it plowed ahead with approval of the childhood Covid
    vaccine. After Krohnert replied to a post by Surgeon General Jerome
    Adams that defended Covid vaccine trials, he posted a thread. You trust
    your electrician / plumber / tax preparer. You should trust your doc,
    Adams wrote.

    As for the inflated case numbers? Eventually, the CDC quietly removed
    72,277 misattributed deaths from the Covid Data Tracker, a data
    correction attributed to Krohnerts advocacy by The BMJ (formerly the
    British Medical Journal).

    Looking back now through the fog of Covid, it is easy to overlook the
    data nerds, virologists, epidemiologists, and ordinary citizens like
    Krohnert who, scattered across the country, doggedly fact-checked the
    U.S. government. For their efforts, they were censored and shadow-banned
    on social media, scorned by polite society, and discredited as
    dangerous, science-denying conspiracy theorists by high-level government >officials and the mainstream media. But they persisted, and 40 to 50 of
    them eventually connected on Twitter, creating an informal group they
    dubbed Rational Ground/Team Reality.


    In 2022, Kelly Krohnert discovered that a study cited by the CDC during
    its push for a pediatric Covid vaccine vastly inflated the diseases
    risk to children. (Michael Nagle/Xinhua via Getty Images)
    And since then, times have changed. Today, Team Reality is seeing their >recommendations adopted by the federal government.

    One of the medical experts who broke with the consensus during the
    pandemic and joined forces with Rational Ground, Dr. Jay Bhattacharya, a >professor of health policy at Stanford University School of Medicine, is
    now the director of the National Institutes of Health. Two weeks ago, in
    one of his first official actions, Bhattacharya announced that the NIH
    will accelerate the rollout of a plan to make available to the public
    all data gathered from taxpayer-funded NIH scientific research studies.
    Its a policy recommendation consistently put forth by members of
    Rational Ground.

    I believe very strongly that the products and data produced by
    scientific projects paid for by the public should be available to the >public, Bhattacharya told me in an email. Just 26 percent of Americans
    have a great deal of confidence that scientists are working for the
    public good, a recent poll found. Bhattacharya said rebuilding that
    fractured trust is at the core of what he must accomplish in his new job.


    It was a kind of pinch-me moment, said Justin Hart, a 53-year-old data
    and marketing consultant based in San Diego, about a gathering a few
    weeks ago with Bhattacharya near Washington to celebrate the appointment
    of the fringe epidemiologist, as he was baselessly called by former
    NIH director Dr. Francis Collins, to run the agency.

    Just two years ago, Hart, his wife Jenny, their toddler daughter, and >Bhattacharya had walked the halls of Capitol Hill, passing out a
    one-page Rational Ground advocacy sheet and fruitlessly seeking
    conversations with lawmakers willing to consider their heterodox views.

    Hart and Bhattacharya connected in the early days of the pandemic thanks
    to mutual friends at Stanford. A small group gathered to meet after
    reading an article by Dr. John Ioannidis, a Stanford statistician and >professor of biomedical data science. He said some of the same things
    they had all been thinking, including his warning in March 2020 that >public-health officials were making consequential decisions without good
    data and calling the Covid response a potential fiasco in the making.

    From there, Team Reality grew. They became supporters of the Great
    Barrington Declaration, a document written by Bhattacharya and two >colleagues, advocating for focused protection for those most vulnerable
    to Covid, and a return to close-to-normal life for the rest of society.
    The team plowed ahead with their advocacy, taking solace in their ragtag >community when they faced the scorn of the mainstream.

    We had people who were apolitical, people who were Democrats, people
    who were very conservative Republicans, said Hart. Its amazing how >unifying it can be when the government starts pushing around our kids
    and impinging our freedoms.


    Matt Shapiro, who goes by the handle @PoliticalMath on X, describes
    himself as a right-of-center, insatiably curious
    artificial-intelligence engineer. (William DeShazer for The Free Press)
    Matt Shapiro, who goes by the handle @PoliticalMath on X and lives
    outside Atlanta, signed up early in the pandemic to process data for The >Atlantics Covid Tracking Project, the most complete data repository of >Covids impact in the U.S. Shapiro describes himself as a
    right-of-center, insatiably curious artificial-intelligence engineer
    with a background in data management, and he was eager to put his
    data-mining skills to work for the common good. His work became a
    full-time Covid hobby, he said. Shapiro joined other volunteersgood >people trying to do an important thingto input data, analyze trends,
    and make data-based recommendations to help shape public health.

    But when the data told a story that contradicted the Centers for Disease >Control and Preventions recommendations, for example, that Covid spread
    as quickly in places with mask mandates as it did in places without
    them, his mostly left-leaning colleagues on the team went silent. All
    my data friends that I had made doing all this work together were just
    like, Not touching that,? he recalled.

    Shapiro said he was mocked and isolated for questioning the predominant >narrative that shuttering schools and businesses was lifesaving. More >alarming to him were the massive implications such conformity had for >society. Thats not the story were telling ourselves about who we
    are, he told me.


    Tracking Covid data became Matt Shapiros full-time hobby during the >pandemic, he said. (William DeShazer for The Free Press)
    It was different with Rational Ground/Team Reality. Members of the group >worked to provide data for Dr. Scott Atlas, a Covid adviser during the
    first Trump administration, who used their findings to refute CDC
    assessments at briefings. They advised governors and state-level Covid
    task forces, like that of Florida governor Ron DeSantis, and federal >lawmakers such as Andrew Clyde of Georgia and Dan Crenshaw of Texas, all >Republicans. They held regional gatherings and relentlessly pursued >grassroots campaigns to correct and call out errors wherever they found
    them.

    In such a diverse group, there was often sharp disagreement. Weve had >people rage-quit, said Hart. Like in any human endeavor, we definitely
    have our moments where people dont see things in the same way, but we
    had an open forum where we felt like we could hash it out and discuss >things.


    Five years later, Team Reality is still advocating for institutional
    reforms based on what they saw during the pandemic. Under the leadership
    of Bhattacharya, some of those changes are already happening. They want >safeguards to protect the American people from overreaching government >authority, and they think that constraining power and increasing
    transparency will ultimately help restore trust in public health.

    To achieve this, they want public-health policy discussions to be
    robust, with dissenting voices and a comprehensive cost-benefit analysis
    of any public-health policy proposal before it becomes enforceable, even
    in emergency situations.


    Government scientists do not have a monopoly on the truth, NIH
    director Jay Bhattacharya told The Free Press. (Andrew Harnik via Getty >Images)
    Public health policy decisions need a high quality of evidence
    demonstrating a good amount of benefit for a small amount of
    imposition, said Krohnert. With Covid, we got the opposite:
    low-quality evidence demonstrating a small amount of benefit with
    massive impositions and untold costs.

    They also call for radical transparency. Because CDC guidance during
    Covid was often based on desired outcomes rather than actual data-driven >science, Shapiro said, data from any publicly funded study should be
    publicly available. If you collect data with our taxpayer money, its
    our data, and you should have to show it to us, rather than only showing
    it if it achieves some end-policy goal, he said.

    Bhattacharya agrees. Government scientists do not have a monopoly on
    the truth, which is most likely to be found by a spirit of open-minded >investigation, including by members of the public with access to the
    same data as public-health officials, he told me.

    Humility is an uncommon virtue for top government officials, but
    Bhattacharya knows better than most how the experts can get things
    wrong. On topic after topic. . . Rational Ground analysts outperformed
    and corrected government agencies, he told me. Rational Ground often
    relied on data that agencies like the CDC had made publicly available to >correct the CDC itself on its misinterpretations of its own data.


    Matt Shapiro said he was mocked and isolated for questioning the
    predominant narrative during Covid that shuttering schools and
    businesses was lifesaving. (William DeShazer for The Free Press)
    Opening the data to the public could help extremists misrepresent data
    and take it out of context, but the benefits outweigh the risks, said >Krohnert. Blocking access to data is not going to prevent bad actors
    from spreading misinformation. If anything, it adds fuel to the fire,
    because they can make up what they want and claim its from some study
    the government doesnt want you to see,? she said.

    Other hoped-for reforms go far beyond data reporting. Its about what
    gets studied to begin with. During the pandemic, policy decisions with >enormous effects, such as universal masking or standing six feet apart,
    we now know were based on flawed research, or often just guesswork. But >according to Hart, the federal health agencies resisted funding studies
    that might refute CDC recommendations.

    Then there is the matter of institutional conflicts of interest. For
    example, Hart was dismayed to learn that the same people who sit on NIH
    grant committees to decide where funding goes also make policy >recommendations.

    Such conflicts are a problem. After watching the CDC make so many
    errorsand always in the same directionKrohnert co-wrote a paper for
    the open-access Social Science Research Network, with Dr. Vinay Prasad,
    the new head of the Food and Drug Administrations Center for Biologics >Evaluation and Research, calling for a firewall between the government >entities that gather statistics and those setting policy as a shield
    against real or perceived systematic bias.

    Krohnert also thinks there need to be better conversations about the
    nature and efficacy of CDC recommendations, which can be overly cautious
    and reflect a low tolerance for risk, such as its recommendation not to
    eat raw cookie dough. As a result, the general public often ignores the
    CDCs advice.


    Blocking access to data is not going to prevent bad actors from
    spreading misinformation, Krohnert said. If anything, it adds fuel to
    the fire. (Kendrick Brinson for The Free Press)
    Since their recommendations can take on the force of law, official >recommendations by the CDC ought to include room for dissentor at least
    some wiggle room, depending on the circumstances, Krohnert said. For
    example, a recommendation to wear masks to prevent the spread of disease >might come with a qualification that it might not be appropriate in
    every situation, so that pediatric speech-therapy clinics and preschools >neednt worry about getting sued for failing to follow the agencys advice.

    And though they do want sweeping reform, Team Reality dont want to burn
    the house down completely. Krohnert said she doesnt want to render the
    CDC useless. Just the opposite. She believes that Americans need
    entities they can trust, though government power usually should be
    limited to the ability to recommend and not compel.

    Public-health enforcing isolation of very sick, very contagious people
    is not particularly controversial, she said. But during Covid, we had >public-health enforcing quarantine of healthy individuals.

    We just seemed to skip over all the ethics of that.

    There is, understandably, some concern that, as the editors of The Free
    Press wrote yesterday in an editorial about public health, this >administrations approach to reform often uses a hacksaw when a scalpel
    is called for. And yet, the people Trump has selected to lead the NIH,
    CDC, and FDA are highly credentialed, well-respected, and extremely >competent, and they are advocating policies that are as careful as they
    are radical. These arent Robespierre lieutenants being elevated to
    judge, jury, and executioner when the revolution was won, said Hart.
    These are the people who shouldve been running things in the first place.

    In the interim, we are 100% prepared/protected in the "full armor of
    GOD" (Ephesians 6:11) which we put on as soon as we use Apostle Paul's
    secret (Philippians 4:12). Though masking is less protective, it helps
    us avoid the appearance of doing the evil of spreading airborne
    pathogens while there are people getting sick because of not being
    100% protected. It is written that we're to "abstain from **all**
    appearance of doing evil" (1 Thessalonians 5:22 w/**emphasis**).

    Meanwhile, the only *perfect* (Matt 5:47-8 ) way to eradicate the
    COVID-19 virus, thereby saving lives, in the US & elsewhere is by
    rapidly (i.e. use the "Rapid COVID-19 Test" ) finding out at any given
    moment, including even while on-line, who among us are unwittingly
    contagious (i.e pre-symptomatic or asymptomatic) in order to
    "convince it forward" (John 15:12) for them to call their doctor and self-quarantine per their doctor in hopes of stopping this pandemic.
    Thus, we're hoping for the best while preparing for the worse-case
    scenario of the Alpha lineage mutations and others like the Omicron,
    Gamma, Beta, Epsilon, Iota, Lambda, Mu & Delta lineage mutations
    combining via slip-RNA-replication to form hybrids like "Deltamicron"
    that may render current COVID vaccines/monoclonals/medicines/pills no
    longer effective.

    Indeed, I am wonderfully hungry ( https://groups.google.com/g/sci.med.cardiology/c/6ZoE95d-VKc/m/14vVZoyOBgAJ
    ) and hope you, Michael, also have a healthy appetite too.

    So how are you ?

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  • From Michael Ejercito@21:1/5 to Loose Cannon on Mon May 19 07:34:34 2025
    XPost: alt.bible.prophecy, soc.culture.usa, soc.culture.israel
    XPost: uk.legal

    Loose Cannon wrote:
    On Sun, 18 May 2025 08:22:59 -0700, Michael Ejercito
    <MEjercit@HotMail.com> wrote:

    https://www.reddit.com/r/LockdownSkepticism/comments/1kn24i0/a_ragtag_group_of_covid_truthtellers_go_to/


    A Ragtag Group of gooks....

    <DELETE PLAGIARIZED BULLSHIT>

    Your breed brought that shit here and spread it everywhere.
    What do you allege is my breed?

    Now
    America is deporting all the slant-eyed turds once and for all.

    https://postimg.cc/0r8NkFQy

    Goodbye gooks!


    You sure have hostility against people who are slant of eye.

    Is it because they all outearn you, outwit you, outsex you, and
    outclass you?


    Michael

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  • From Michael Ejercito@21:1/5 to HeartDoc Andrew on Mon May 19 07:33:36 2025
    XPost: alt.bible.prophecy, soc.culture.usa, soc.culture.israel
    XPost: alt.christnet.christianlife

    HeartDoc Andrew wrote:
    Michael Ejercito wrote:

    https://www.reddit.com/r/LockdownSkepticism/comments/1kn24i0/a_ragtag_group_of_covid_truthtellers_go_to/


    A Ragtag Group of Covid Truth-Tellers Go to Washington

    Kelley Krohnert, a wife and mother who lives just outside Atlanta,
    started a website in 2020 to hold government agencies accountable for
    their Covid data. (Kendrick Brinson for The Free Press)
    During the pandemic, they were ostracized. Now, they’re influencing
    public policy.
    By Carrie McKean
    05.14.25 — Health and Self-Improvement
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    Earlier this week, we ran a collection of pieces by the new leaders of
    American public health—doctors Jay Bhattacharya, Marty Makary, and Vinay >> Prasad—all of whom just happen to have contributed to The Free Press.
    Five years ago, they raised serious questions in our pages about
    lockdowns, shuttered schools, and vaccine mandates—questions for which
    they were vilified. Now, all of them have been not only vindicated, but
    promoted to some of the highest offices in public health. But these
    leaders are only part of the story. Behind them is a ragtag group of
    ordinary Americans who also asked questions during the Covid era, and
    kept asking them, even though they were belittled, discredited, and
    ostracized. In today’s piece, reporter Carrie McKean profiles these
    individuals, and asks them: How can we move forward? How can these new
    leaders restore our faith in public health?
    —The Editors


    Five years ago, Kelley Krohnert, a wife and mother who lives just
    outside Atlanta and runs a small photography business, was, like most of
    us, filled with dread and confusion. It was the early days of Covid. At
    the time, the Georgia Health Department wasn’t keeping a public record
    of the number of cases. So Kelley, who’s in her forties, began plugging
    numbers she saw on the news into her own spreadsheet and started a
    website, Covid-Georgia.com, to share her data, gaining a wide following
    on Twitter (now X) under the handle @KelleyKGa.

    It didn’t take long for Krohnert to start noticing statistical errors,
    which grew only more common as time went on. The CDC’s own “unofficial”
    Covid Data Tracker of cases from across the nation often reported higher
    pediatric death counts than the official numbers on the National Center
    for Health Statistics website. And the media often reported those higher
    numbers. As time went on, the CDC reported that 4 percent of Covid
    deaths were children, when their own data showed it was .04 percent. In
    2022, she discovered that a frightening study cited by the CDC during
    its push for a pediatric Covid vaccine vastly inflated the disease’s
    risk to children; for example, it compared 26 months of Covid-associated
    deaths to one year of deaths from other causes.


    “These were mistakes and errors a middle-school student wouldn’t make,”
    Krohnert said of errors she found in CDC Covid data. (Angela Weiss/AFP
    via Getty Images)
    “These were mistakes and errors a middle-school student wouldn’t make,”
    Krohnert told me. She didn’t start out with any inherent suspicion of
    the government. She expected officials to be a trusted source of
    information and to deliver level-headed guidance. But the more she
    burrowed into the Covid numbers, the more problems she saw. And
    remarkably, all the errors she identified made things seem worse and
    more dangerous than they were.

    Krohnert did get some recognition and vindication. After she alerted the
    authors of the study about their errors regarding Covid’s risks to
    children, they immediately made corrections, and the CDC eventually
    stopped claiming Covid was one of the top five killers of children. Yet
    Krohnert said the agency never responded to her directly. It also
    characterized her as just “a person with a web page or a blog” in an
    email that became public following an FOIA request to the study’s
    authors. And it plowed ahead with approval of the childhood Covid
    vaccine. After Krohnert replied to a post by Surgeon General Jerome
    Adams that defended Covid vaccine trials, he posted a thread. “You trust >> your electrician / plumber / tax preparer. You should trust your doc,”
    Adams wrote.

    As for the inflated case numbers? Eventually, the CDC quietly removed
    72,277 misattributed deaths from the Covid Data Tracker, a data
    correction attributed to Krohnert’s advocacy by The BMJ (formerly the
    British Medical Journal).

    Looking back now through the fog of Covid, it is easy to overlook the
    data nerds, virologists, epidemiologists, and ordinary citizens like
    Krohnert who, scattered across the country, doggedly fact-checked the
    U.S. government. For their efforts, they were censored and shadow-banned
    on social media, scorned by polite society, and discredited as
    dangerous, science-denying conspiracy theorists by high-level government
    officials and the mainstream media. But they persisted, and 40 to 50 of
    them eventually connected on Twitter, creating an informal group they
    dubbed “Rational Ground/Team Reality.”


    In 2022, Kelly Krohnert discovered that a study cited by the CDC during
    its push for a pediatric Covid vaccine vastly inflated the disease’s
    risk to children. (Michael Nagle/Xinhua via Getty Images)
    And since then, times have changed. Today, Team Reality is seeing their
    recommendations adopted by the federal government.

    One of the medical experts who broke with the consensus during the
    pandemic and joined forces with Rational Ground, Dr. Jay Bhattacharya, a
    professor of health policy at Stanford University School of Medicine, is
    now the director of the National Institutes of Health. Two weeks ago, in
    one of his first official actions, Bhattacharya announced that the NIH
    will accelerate the rollout of a plan to make available to the public
    all data gathered from taxpayer-funded NIH scientific research studies.
    It’s a policy recommendation consistently put forth by members of
    Rational Ground.

    “I believe very strongly that the products and data produced by
    scientific projects paid for by the public should be available to the
    public,” Bhattacharya told me in an email. Just 26 percent of Americans
    have a great deal of confidence that scientists are working for the
    public good, a recent poll found. Bhattacharya said rebuilding that
    fractured trust is at the core of what he must accomplish in his new job.


    “It was a kind of pinch-me moment,” said Justin Hart, a 53-year-old data >> and marketing consultant based in San Diego, about a gathering a few
    weeks ago with Bhattacharya near Washington to celebrate the appointment
    of the “fringe epidemiologist,” as he was baselessly called by former
    NIH director Dr. Francis Collins, to run the agency.

    Just two years ago, Hart, his wife Jenny, their toddler daughter, and
    Bhattacharya had walked the halls of Capitol Hill, passing out a
    one-page Rational Ground advocacy sheet and fruitlessly seeking
    conversations with lawmakers willing to consider their heterodox views.

    Hart and Bhattacharya connected in the early days of the pandemic thanks
    to mutual friends at Stanford. A small group gathered to meet after
    reading an article by Dr. John Ioannidis, a Stanford statistician and
    professor of biomedical data science. He said some of the same things
    they had all been thinking, including his warning in March 2020 that
    public-health officials were making consequential decisions without good
    data and calling the Covid response a potential “fiasco in the making.” >>
    From there, Team Reality grew. They became supporters of the Great
    Barrington Declaration, a document written by Bhattacharya and two
    colleagues, advocating for focused protection for those most vulnerable
    to Covid, and a return to close-to-normal life for the rest of society.
    The team plowed ahead with their advocacy, taking solace in their ragtag
    community when they faced the scorn of the mainstream.

    “We had people who were apolitical, people who were Democrats, people
    who were very conservative Republicans,” said Hart. “It’s amazing how >> unifying it can be when the government starts pushing around our kids
    and impinging our freedoms.”


    Matt Shapiro, who goes by the handle @PoliticalMath on X, describes
    himself as a right-of-center, “insatiably curious”
    artificial-intelligence engineer. (William DeShazer for The Free Press)
    Matt Shapiro, who goes by the handle @PoliticalMath on X and lives
    outside Atlanta, signed up early in the pandemic to process data for The
    Atlantic’s Covid Tracking Project, the most complete data repository of
    Covid’s impact in the U.S. Shapiro describes himself as a
    right-of-center, “insatiably curious” artificial-intelligence engineer >> with a background in data management, and he was eager to put his
    data-mining skills to work for the common good. His work became a
    “full-time Covid hobby,” he said. Shapiro joined other volunteers—“good
    people trying to do an important thing”—to input data, analyze trends, >> and make data-based recommendations to help shape public health.

    But when the data told a story that contradicted the Centers for Disease
    Control and Prevention’s recommendations, for example, that Covid spread >> as quickly in places with mask mandates as it did in places without
    them, his mostly left-leaning colleagues on the team went silent. “All
    my data friends that I had made doing all this work together were just
    like, ‘Not touching that,’?” he recalled.

    Shapiro said he was mocked and isolated for questioning the predominant
    narrative that shuttering schools and businesses was lifesaving. More
    alarming to him were the massive implications such conformity had for
    society. “That’s not the story we’re telling ourselves about who we
    are,” he told me.


    Tracking Covid data became Matt Shapiro’s “full-time hobby” during the >> pandemic, he said. (William DeShazer for The Free Press)
    It was different with Rational Ground/Team Reality. Members of the group
    worked to provide data for Dr. Scott Atlas, a Covid adviser during the
    first Trump administration, who used their findings to refute CDC
    assessments at briefings. They advised governors and state-level Covid
    task forces, like that of Florida governor Ron DeSantis, and federal
    lawmakers such as Andrew Clyde of Georgia and Dan Crenshaw of Texas, all
    Republicans. They held regional gatherings and relentlessly pursued
    grassroots campaigns to correct and call out errors wherever they found
    them.

    In such a diverse group, there was often sharp disagreement. “We’ve had >> people rage-quit,” said Hart. “Like in any human endeavor, we definitely >> have our moments where people don’t see things in the same way, but we
    had an open forum where we felt like we could hash it out and discuss
    things.”


    Five years later, Team Reality is still advocating for institutional
    reforms based on what they saw during the pandemic. Under the leadership
    of Bhattacharya, some of those changes are already happening. They want
    safeguards to protect the American people from overreaching government
    authority, and they think that constraining power and increasing
    transparency will ultimately help restore trust in public health.

    To achieve this, they want public-health policy discussions to be
    robust, with dissenting voices and a comprehensive cost-benefit analysis
    of any public-health policy proposal before it becomes enforceable, even
    in emergency situations.


    “Government scientists do not have a monopoly on the truth,” NIH
    director Jay Bhattacharya told The Free Press. (Andrew Harnik via Getty
    Images)
    “Public health policy decisions need a high quality of evidence
    demonstrating a good amount of benefit for a small amount of
    imposition,” said Krohnert. “With Covid, we got the opposite:
    low-quality evidence demonstrating a small amount of benefit with
    massive impositions and untold costs.”

    They also call for radical transparency. Because CDC guidance during
    Covid was often based on desired outcomes rather than actual data-driven
    science, Shapiro said, data from any publicly funded study should be
    publicly available. “If you collect data with our taxpayer money, it’s >> our data, and you should have to show it to us, rather than only showing
    it if it achieves some end-policy goal,” he said.

    Bhattacharya agrees. “Government scientists do not have a monopoly on
    the truth, which is most likely to be found by a spirit of open-minded
    investigation, including by members of the public with access to the
    same data as public-health officials,” he told me.

    Humility is an uncommon virtue for top government officials, but
    Bhattacharya knows better than most how the experts can get things
    wrong. “On topic after topic. . . Rational Ground analysts outperformed
    and corrected government agencies,” he told me. “Rational Ground often >> relied on data that agencies like the CDC had made publicly available to
    correct the CDC itself on its misinterpretations of its own data.”


    Matt Shapiro said he was mocked and isolated for questioning the
    predominant narrative during Covid that shuttering schools and
    businesses was lifesaving. (William DeShazer for The Free Press)
    Opening the data to the public could help extremists misrepresent data
    and take it out of context, but the benefits outweigh the risks, said
    Krohnert. “Blocking access to data is not going to prevent bad actors >>from spreading misinformation. If anything, it adds fuel to the fire,
    because they can make up what they want and claim it’s from some study
    the government ‘doesn’t want you to see,’?” she said.

    Other hoped-for reforms go far beyond data reporting. It’s about what
    gets studied to begin with. During the pandemic, policy decisions with
    enormous effects, such as universal masking or standing six feet apart,
    we now know were based on flawed research, or often just guesswork. But
    according to Hart, the federal health agencies resisted funding studies
    that might refute CDC recommendations.

    Then there is the matter of institutional conflicts of interest. For
    example, Hart was dismayed to learn that the same people who sit on NIH
    grant committees to decide where funding goes also make policy
    recommendations.

    Such conflicts are a problem. After watching the CDC make so many
    errors—and always in the same direction—Krohnert co-wrote a paper for
    the open-access Social Science Research Network, with Dr. Vinay Prasad,
    the new head of the Food and Drug Administration’s Center for Biologics
    Evaluation and Research, calling for a firewall between the government
    entities that gather statistics and those setting policy as a shield
    against “real or perceived systematic bias.”

    Krohnert also thinks there need to be better conversations about the
    nature and efficacy of CDC recommendations, which can be overly cautious
    and reflect a low tolerance for risk, such as its recommendation not to
    eat raw cookie dough. As a result, the general public often ignores the
    CDC’s advice.


    “Blocking access to data is not going to prevent bad actors from
    spreading misinformation,” Krohnert said. “If anything, it adds fuel to >> the fire.” (Kendrick Brinson for The Free Press)
    Since their recommendations can take on the force of law, official
    recommendations by the CDC ought to include room for dissent—or at least >> some wiggle room, depending on the circumstances, Krohnert said. For
    example, a recommendation to wear masks to prevent the spread of disease
    might come with a qualification that it might not be appropriate in
    every situation, so that pediatric speech-therapy clinics and preschools
    needn’t worry about getting sued for failing to follow the agency’s advice.

    And though they do want sweeping reform, Team Reality don’t want to burn >> the house down completely. Krohnert said she doesn’t want to render the
    CDC useless. Just the opposite. She believes that Americans need
    entities they can trust, though government power usually should be
    limited to the ability to recommend and not compel.

    “Public-health enforcing isolation of very sick, very contagious people
    is not particularly controversial,” she said. “But during Covid, we had >> public-health enforcing quarantine of healthy individuals.

    “We just seemed to skip over all the ethics of that.”

    There is, understandably, some concern that, as the editors of The Free
    Press wrote yesterday in an editorial about public health, “this
    administration’s approach to reform often uses a hacksaw when a scalpel
    is called for.” And yet, the people Trump has selected to lead the NIH,
    CDC, and FDA are highly credentialed, well-respected, and extremely
    competent, and they are advocating policies that are as careful as they
    are radical. “These aren’t Robespierre lieutenants being elevated to
    judge, jury, and executioner when the revolution was won,” said Hart.
    “These are the people who should’ve been running things in the first place.”

    In the interim, we are 100% prepared/protected in the "full armor of
    GOD" (Ephesians 6:11) which we put on as soon as we use Apostle Paul's
    secret (Philippians 4:12). Though masking is less protective, it helps
    us avoid the appearance of doing the evil of spreading airborne
    pathogens while there are people getting sick because of not being
    100% protected. It is written that we're to "abstain from **all**
    appearance of doing evil" (1 Thessalonians 5:22 w/**emphasis**).

    Meanwhile, the only *perfect* (Matt 5:47-8 ) way to eradicate the
    COVID-19 virus, thereby saving lives, in the US & elsewhere is by
    rapidly (i.e. use the "Rapid COVID-19 Test" ) finding out at any given moment, including even while on-line, who among us are unwittingly
    contagious (i.e pre-symptomatic or asymptomatic) in order to
    "convince it forward" (John 15:12) for them to call their doctor and self-quarantine per their doctor in hopes of stopping this pandemic.
    Thus, we're hoping for the best while preparing for the worse-case
    scenario of the Alpha lineage mutations and others like the Omicron,
    Gamma, Beta, Epsilon, Iota, Lambda, Mu & Delta lineage mutations
    combining via slip-RNA-replication to form hybrids like "Deltamicron"
    that may render current COVID vaccines/monoclonals/medicines/pills no
    longer effective.

    Indeed, I am wonderfully hungry ( https://groups.google.com/g/sci.med.cardiology/c/6ZoE95d-VKc/m/14vVZoyOBgAJ
    ) and hope you, Michael, also have a healthy appetite too.

    So how are you ?

    I am wonderfully hungry!


    Michael

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  • From Michael Ejercito@21:1/5 to HeartDoc Andrew on Tue May 20 05:07:14 2025
    XPost: alt.bible.prophecy, soc.culture.usa, soc.culture.israel
    XPost: alt.christnet.christianlife

    HeartDoc Andrew wrote:
    Michael Ejercito wrote:
    HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
    Michael Ejercito wrote:

    https://www.reddit.com/r/LockdownSkepticism/comments/1kn24i0/a_ragtag_group_of_covid_truthtellers_go_to/


    A Ragtag Group of Covid Truth-Tellers Go to Washington

    Kelley Krohnert, a wife and mother who lives just outside Atlanta,
    started a website in 2020 to hold government agencies accountable for
    their Covid data. (Kendrick Brinson for The Free Press)
    During the pandemic, they were ostracized. Now, they’re influencing
    public policy.
    By Carrie McKean
    05.14.25 — Health and Self-Improvement
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    Earlier this week, we ran a collection of pieces by the new leaders of >>>> American public health—doctors Jay Bhattacharya, Marty Makary, and Vinay >>>> Prasad—all of whom just happen to have contributed to The Free Press. >>>> Five years ago, they raised serious questions in our pages about
    lockdowns, shuttered schools, and vaccine mandates—questions for which >>>> they were vilified. Now, all of them have been not only vindicated, but >>>> promoted to some of the highest offices in public health. But these
    leaders are only part of the story. Behind them is a ragtag group of
    ordinary Americans who also asked questions during the Covid era, and
    kept asking them, even though they were belittled, discredited, and
    ostracized. In today’s piece, reporter Carrie McKean profiles these
    individuals, and asks them: How can we move forward? How can these new >>>> leaders restore our faith in public health?
    —The Editors


    Five years ago, Kelley Krohnert, a wife and mother who lives just
    outside Atlanta and runs a small photography business, was, like most of >>>> us, filled with dread and confusion. It was the early days of Covid. At >>>> the time, the Georgia Health Department wasn’t keeping a public record >>>> of the number of cases. So Kelley, who’s in her forties, began plugging >>>> numbers she saw on the news into her own spreadsheet and started a
    website, Covid-Georgia.com, to share her data, gaining a wide following >>>> on Twitter (now X) under the handle @KelleyKGa.

    It didn’t take long for Krohnert to start noticing statistical errors, >>>> which grew only more common as time went on. The CDC’s own “unofficial”
    Covid Data Tracker of cases from across the nation often reported higher >>>> pediatric death counts than the official numbers on the National Center >>>> for Health Statistics website. And the media often reported those higher >>>> numbers. As time went on, the CDC reported that 4 percent of Covid
    deaths were children, when their own data showed it was .04 percent. In >>>> 2022, she discovered that a frightening study cited by the CDC during
    its push for a pediatric Covid vaccine vastly inflated the disease’s >>>> risk to children; for example, it compared 26 months of Covid-associated >>>> deaths to one year of deaths from other causes.


    “These were mistakes and errors a middle-school student wouldn’t make,”
    Krohnert said of errors she found in CDC Covid data. (Angela Weiss/AFP >>>> via Getty Images)
    “These were mistakes and errors a middle-school student wouldn’t make,”
    Krohnert told me. She didn’t start out with any inherent suspicion of >>>> the government. She expected officials to be a trusted source of
    information and to deliver level-headed guidance. But the more she
    burrowed into the Covid numbers, the more problems she saw. And
    remarkably, all the errors she identified made things seem worse and
    more dangerous than they were.

    Krohnert did get some recognition and vindication. After she alerted the >>>> authors of the study about their errors regarding Covid’s risks to
    children, they immediately made corrections, and the CDC eventually
    stopped claiming Covid was one of the top five killers of children. Yet >>>> Krohnert said the agency never responded to her directly. It also
    characterized her as just “a person with a web page or a blog” in an >>>> email that became public following an FOIA request to the study’s
    authors. And it plowed ahead with approval of the childhood Covid
    vaccine. After Krohnert replied to a post by Surgeon General Jerome
    Adams that defended Covid vaccine trials, he posted a thread. “You trust >>>> your electrician / plumber / tax preparer. You should trust your doc,” >>>> Adams wrote.

    As for the inflated case numbers? Eventually, the CDC quietly removed
    72,277 misattributed deaths from the Covid Data Tracker, a data
    correction attributed to Krohnert’s advocacy by The BMJ (formerly the >>>> British Medical Journal).

    Looking back now through the fog of Covid, it is easy to overlook the
    data nerds, virologists, epidemiologists, and ordinary citizens like
    Krohnert who, scattered across the country, doggedly fact-checked the
    U.S. government. For their efforts, they were censored and shadow-banned >>>> on social media, scorned by polite society, and discredited as
    dangerous, science-denying conspiracy theorists by high-level government >>>> officials and the mainstream media. But they persisted, and 40 to 50 of >>>> them eventually connected on Twitter, creating an informal group they
    dubbed “Rational Ground/Team Reality.”


    In 2022, Kelly Krohnert discovered that a study cited by the CDC during >>>> its push for a pediatric Covid vaccine vastly inflated the disease’s >>>> risk to children. (Michael Nagle/Xinhua via Getty Images)
    And since then, times have changed. Today, Team Reality is seeing their >>>> recommendations adopted by the federal government.

    One of the medical experts who broke with the consensus during the
    pandemic and joined forces with Rational Ground, Dr. Jay Bhattacharya, a >>>> professor of health policy at Stanford University School of Medicine, is >>>> now the director of the National Institutes of Health. Two weeks ago, in >>>> one of his first official actions, Bhattacharya announced that the NIH >>>> will accelerate the rollout of a plan to make available to the public
    all data gathered from taxpayer-funded NIH scientific research studies. >>>> It’s a policy recommendation consistently put forth by members of
    Rational Ground.

    “I believe very strongly that the products and data produced by
    scientific projects paid for by the public should be available to the
    public,” Bhattacharya told me in an email. Just 26 percent of Americans >>>> have a great deal of confidence that scientists are working for the
    public good, a recent poll found. Bhattacharya said rebuilding that
    fractured trust is at the core of what he must accomplish in his new job. >>>>

    “It was a kind of pinch-me moment,” said Justin Hart, a 53-year-old data
    and marketing consultant based in San Diego, about a gathering a few
    weeks ago with Bhattacharya near Washington to celebrate the appointment >>>> of the “fringe epidemiologist,” as he was baselessly called by former >>>> NIH director Dr. Francis Collins, to run the agency.

    Just two years ago, Hart, his wife Jenny, their toddler daughter, and
    Bhattacharya had walked the halls of Capitol Hill, passing out a
    one-page Rational Ground advocacy sheet and fruitlessly seeking
    conversations with lawmakers willing to consider their heterodox views. >>>>
    Hart and Bhattacharya connected in the early days of the pandemic thanks >>>> to mutual friends at Stanford. A small group gathered to meet after
    reading an article by Dr. John Ioannidis, a Stanford statistician and
    professor of biomedical data science. He said some of the same things
    they had all been thinking, including his warning in March 2020 that
    public-health officials were making consequential decisions without good >>>> data and calling the Covid response a potential “fiasco in the making.”

    From there, Team Reality grew. They became supporters of the Great
    Barrington Declaration, a document written by Bhattacharya and two
    colleagues, advocating for focused protection for those most vulnerable >>>> to Covid, and a return to close-to-normal life for the rest of society. >>>> The team plowed ahead with their advocacy, taking solace in their ragtag >>>> community when they faced the scorn of the mainstream.

    “We had people who were apolitical, people who were Democrats, people >>>> who were very conservative Republicans,” said Hart. “It’s amazing how
    unifying it can be when the government starts pushing around our kids
    and impinging our freedoms.”


    Matt Shapiro, who goes by the handle @PoliticalMath on X, describes
    himself as a right-of-center, “insatiably curious”
    artificial-intelligence engineer. (William DeShazer for The Free Press) >>>> Matt Shapiro, who goes by the handle @PoliticalMath on X and lives
    outside Atlanta, signed up early in the pandemic to process data for The >>>> Atlantic’s Covid Tracking Project, the most complete data repository of >>>> Covid’s impact in the U.S. Shapiro describes himself as a
    right-of-center, “insatiably curious” artificial-intelligence engineer >>>> with a background in data management, and he was eager to put his
    data-mining skills to work for the common good. His work became a
    “full-time Covid hobby,” he said. Shapiro joined other volunteers—“good
    people trying to do an important thing”—to input data, analyze trends, >>>> and make data-based recommendations to help shape public health.

    But when the data told a story that contradicted the Centers for Disease >>>> Control and Prevention’s recommendations, for example, that Covid spread >>>> as quickly in places with mask mandates as it did in places without
    them, his mostly left-leaning colleagues on the team went silent. “All >>>> my data friends that I had made doing all this work together were just >>>> like, ‘Not touching that,’?” he recalled.

    Shapiro said he was mocked and isolated for questioning the predominant >>>> narrative that shuttering schools and businesses was lifesaving. More
    alarming to him were the massive implications such conformity had for
    society. “That’s not the story we’re telling ourselves about who we >>>> are,” he told me.


    Tracking Covid data became Matt Shapiro’s “full-time hobby” during the
    pandemic, he said. (William DeShazer for The Free Press)
    It was different with Rational Ground/Team Reality. Members of the group >>>> worked to provide data for Dr. Scott Atlas, a Covid adviser during the >>>> first Trump administration, who used their findings to refute CDC
    assessments at briefings. They advised governors and state-level Covid >>>> task forces, like that of Florida governor Ron DeSantis, and federal
    lawmakers such as Andrew Clyde of Georgia and Dan Crenshaw of Texas, all >>>> Republicans. They held regional gatherings and relentlessly pursued
    grassroots campaigns to correct and call out errors wherever they found >>>> them.

    In such a diverse group, there was often sharp disagreement. “We’ve had
    people rage-quit,” said Hart. “Like in any human endeavor, we definitely
    have our moments where people don’t see things in the same way, but we >>>> had an open forum where we felt like we could hash it out and discuss
    things.”


    Five years later, Team Reality is still advocating for institutional
    reforms based on what they saw during the pandemic. Under the leadership >>>> of Bhattacharya, some of those changes are already happening. They want >>>> safeguards to protect the American people from overreaching government >>>> authority, and they think that constraining power and increasing
    transparency will ultimately help restore trust in public health.

    To achieve this, they want public-health policy discussions to be
    robust, with dissenting voices and a comprehensive cost-benefit analysis >>>> of any public-health policy proposal before it becomes enforceable, even >>>> in emergency situations.


    “Government scientists do not have a monopoly on the truth,” NIH
    director Jay Bhattacharya told The Free Press. (Andrew Harnik via Getty >>>> Images)
    “Public health policy decisions need a high quality of evidence
    demonstrating a good amount of benefit for a small amount of
    imposition,” said Krohnert. “With Covid, we got the opposite:
    low-quality evidence demonstrating a small amount of benefit with
    massive impositions and untold costs.”

    They also call for radical transparency. Because CDC guidance during
    Covid was often based on desired outcomes rather than actual data-driven >>>> science, Shapiro said, data from any publicly funded study should be
    publicly available. “If you collect data with our taxpayer money, it’s >>>> our data, and you should have to show it to us, rather than only showing >>>> it if it achieves some end-policy goal,” he said.

    Bhattacharya agrees. “Government scientists do not have a monopoly on >>>> the truth, which is most likely to be found by a spirit of open-minded >>>> investigation, including by members of the public with access to the
    same data as public-health officials,” he told me.

    Humility is an uncommon virtue for top government officials, but
    Bhattacharya knows better than most how the experts can get things
    wrong. “On topic after topic. . . Rational Ground analysts outperformed >>>> and corrected government agencies,” he told me. “Rational Ground often >>>> relied on data that agencies like the CDC had made publicly available to >>>> correct the CDC itself on its misinterpretations of its own data.”


    Matt Shapiro said he was mocked and isolated for questioning the
    predominant narrative during Covid that shuttering schools and
    businesses was lifesaving. (William DeShazer for The Free Press)
    Opening the data to the public could help extremists misrepresent data >>>> and take it out of context, but the benefits outweigh the risks, said
    Krohnert. “Blocking access to data is not going to prevent bad actors >>> >from spreading misinformation. If anything, it adds fuel to the fire,
    because they can make up what they want and claim it’s from some study >>>> the government ‘doesn’t want you to see,’?” she said.

    Other hoped-for reforms go far beyond data reporting. It’s about what >>>> gets studied to begin with. During the pandemic, policy decisions with >>>> enormous effects, such as universal masking or standing six feet apart, >>>> we now know were based on flawed research, or often just guesswork. But >>>> according to Hart, the federal health agencies resisted funding studies >>>> that might refute CDC recommendations.

    Then there is the matter of institutional conflicts of interest. For
    example, Hart was dismayed to learn that the same people who sit on NIH >>>> grant committees to decide where funding goes also make policy
    recommendations.

    Such conflicts are a problem. After watching the CDC make so many
    errors—and always in the same direction—Krohnert co-wrote a paper for >>>> the open-access Social Science Research Network, with Dr. Vinay Prasad, >>>> the new head of the Food and Drug Administration’s Center for Biologics >>>> Evaluation and Research, calling for a firewall between the government >>>> entities that gather statistics and those setting policy as a shield
    against “real or perceived systematic bias.”

    Krohnert also thinks there need to be better conversations about the
    nature and efficacy of CDC recommendations, which can be overly cautious >>>> and reflect a low tolerance for risk, such as its recommendation not to >>>> eat raw cookie dough. As a result, the general public often ignores the >>>> CDC’s advice.


    “Blocking access to data is not going to prevent bad actors from
    spreading misinformation,” Krohnert said. “If anything, it adds fuel to
    the fire.” (Kendrick Brinson for The Free Press)
    Since their recommendations can take on the force of law, official
    recommendations by the CDC ought to include room for dissent—or at least >>>> some wiggle room, depending on the circumstances, Krohnert said. For
    example, a recommendation to wear masks to prevent the spread of disease >>>> might come with a qualification that it might not be appropriate in
    every situation, so that pediatric speech-therapy clinics and preschools >>>> needn’t worry about getting sued for failing to follow the agency’s advice.

    And though they do want sweeping reform, Team Reality don’t want to burn >>>> the house down completely. Krohnert said she doesn’t want to render the >>>> CDC useless. Just the opposite. She believes that Americans need
    entities they can trust, though government power usually should be
    limited to the ability to recommend and not compel.

    “Public-health enforcing isolation of very sick, very contagious people >>>> is not particularly controversial,” she said. “But during Covid, we had
    public-health enforcing quarantine of healthy individuals.

    “We just seemed to skip over all the ethics of that.”

    There is, understandably, some concern that, as the editors of The Free >>>> Press wrote yesterday in an editorial about public health, “this
    administration’s approach to reform often uses a hacksaw when a scalpel >>>> is called for.” And yet, the people Trump has selected to lead the NIH, >>>> CDC, and FDA are highly credentialed, well-respected, and extremely
    competent, and they are advocating policies that are as careful as they >>>> are radical. “These aren’t Robespierre lieutenants being elevated to >>>> judge, jury, and executioner when the revolution was won,” said Hart. >>>> “These are the people who should’ve been running things in the first place.”

    In the interim, we are 100% prepared/protected in the "full armor of
    GOD" (Ephesians 6:11) which we put on as soon as we use Apostle Paul's
    secret (Philippians 4:12). Though masking is less protective, it helps
    us avoid the appearance of doing the evil of spreading airborne
    pathogens while there are people getting sick because of not being
    100% protected. It is written that we're to "abstain from **all**
    appearance of doing evil" (1 Thessalonians 5:22 w/**emphasis**).

    Meanwhile, the only *perfect* (Matt 5:47-8 ) way to eradicate the
    COVID-19 virus, thereby saving lives, in the US & elsewhere is by
    rapidly (i.e. use the "Rapid COVID-19 Test" ) finding out at any given
    moment, including even while on-line, who among us are unwittingly
    contagious (i.e pre-symptomatic or asymptomatic) in order to
    "convince it forward" (John 15:12) for them to call their doctor and
    self-quarantine per their doctor in hopes of stopping this pandemic.
    Thus, we're hoping for the best while preparing for the worse-case
    scenario of the Alpha lineage mutations and others like the Omicron,
    Gamma, Beta, Epsilon, Iota, Lambda, Mu & Delta lineage mutations
    combining via slip-RNA-replication to form hybrids like "Deltamicron"
    that may render current COVID vaccines/monoclonals/medicines/pills no
    longer effective.

    Indeed, I am wonderfully hungry (
    https://groups.google.com/g/sci.med.cardiology/c/6ZoE95d-VKc/m/14vVZoyOBgAJ >>> ) and hope you, Michael, also have a healthy appetite too.

    So how are you ?

    I am wonderfully hungry!

    While wonderfully hungry in the Holy Spirit, Who causes (Deuteronomy
    8:3) us to hunger, I note that you, Michael, are rapture ready (Luke
    17:37 means no COVID just as eagles circling over their food have no
    COVID) and pray (2 Chronicles 7:14) that our Everlasting (Isaiah 9:6)
    Father in Heaven continues to give us "much more" (Luke 11:13) Holy
    Spirit (Galatians 5:22-23) so that we'd have much more of His Help to
    always say/write that we're "wonderfully hungry" in **all** ways
    including especially caring to "convince it forward" (John 15:12) with
    all glory (Psalm112:1) to GOD (aka HaShem, Elohim, Abba, DEO), in
    the name (John 16:23) of LORD Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Amen.

    Laus DEO !

    Thank you for noting that I have no COVID.


    Michael

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  • From Michael Ejercito@21:1/5 to All on Tue May 20 05:15:07 2025
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    Ron 'I'm not some fucking jew' Jacobsohnabout 18 hours ago
    ReplyPermalinkOn Mon, 19 May 2025 07:34:34 -0700, NOT Michael Ejercito
    You sure have hostility against people who are slant of eye.
    You sure love your fellow COVID-carrying slant eyed subhumans.
    You assume people carry COVID and are subhuman merely because of
    their eye shape?

    How pathetic!
    Is it because they all outearn you, outwit you, outsex you, and
    outclass you?
    Is it because they can only outshit and outfart Humans?
    They ALL outearn you, outwit you, outsex you, and outclass you!

    No wonder over a billion people wake up to a pair of slant eyes
    every morning!


    Michael

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  • From HeartDoc Andrew@21:1/5 to Michael Ejercito on Tue May 20 10:43:23 2025
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    Michael Ejercito wrote:
    HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
    Michael Ejercito wrote:
    HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
    Michael Ejercito wrote:

    https://www.reddit.com/r/LockdownSkepticism/comments/1kn24i0/a_ragtag_group_of_covid_truthtellers_go_to/


    A Ragtag Group of Covid Truth-Tellers Go to Washington

    Kelley Krohnert, a wife and mother who lives just outside Atlanta,
    started a website in 2020 to hold government agencies accountable for >>>>> their Covid data. (Kendrick Brinson for The Free Press)
    During the pandemic, they were ostracized. Now, theyre influencing
    public policy.
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    05.14.25 Health and Self-Improvement
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    Earlier this week, we ran a collection of pieces by the new leaders of >>>>> American public healthdoctors Jay Bhattacharya, Marty Makary, and Vinay >>>>> Prasadall of whom just happen to have contributed to The Free Press. >>>>> Five years ago, they raised serious questions in our pages about
    lockdowns, shuttered schools, and vaccine mandatesquestions for which >>>>> they were vilified. Now, all of them have been not only vindicated, but >>>>> promoted to some of the highest offices in public health. But these
    leaders are only part of the story. Behind them is a ragtag group of >>>>> ordinary Americans who also asked questions during the Covid era, and >>>>> kept asking them, even though they were belittled, discredited, and
    ostracized. In todays piece, reporter Carrie McKean profiles these
    individuals, and asks them: How can we move forward? How can these new >>>>> leaders restore our faith in public health?
    The Editors


    Five years ago, Kelley Krohnert, a wife and mother who lives just
    outside Atlanta and runs a small photography business, was, like most of >>>>> us, filled with dread and confusion. It was the early days of Covid. At >>>>> the time, the Georgia Health Department wasnt keeping a public record >>>>> of the number of cases. So Kelley, whos in her forties, began plugging >>>>> numbers she saw on the news into her own spreadsheet and started a
    website, Covid-Georgia.com, to share her data, gaining a wide following >>>>> on Twitter (now X) under the handle @KelleyKGa.

    It didnt take long for Krohnert to start noticing statistical errors, >>>>> which grew only more common as time went on. The CDCs own unofficial >>>>> Covid Data Tracker of cases from across the nation often reported higher >>>>> pediatric death counts than the official numbers on the National Center >>>>> for Health Statistics website. And the media often reported those higher >>>>> numbers. As time went on, the CDC reported that 4 percent of Covid
    deaths were children, when their own data showed it was .04 percent. In >>>>> 2022, she discovered that a frightening study cited by the CDC during >>>>> its push for a pediatric Covid vaccine vastly inflated the diseases >>>>> risk to children; for example, it compared 26 months of Covid-associated >>>>> deaths to one year of deaths from other causes.


    These were mistakes and errors a middle-school student wouldnt make, >>>>> Krohnert said of errors she found in CDC Covid data. (Angela Weiss/AFP >>>>> via Getty Images)
    These were mistakes and errors a middle-school student wouldnt make, >>>>> Krohnert told me. She didnt start out with any inherent suspicion of >>>>> the government. She expected officials to be a trusted source of
    information and to deliver level-headed guidance. But the more she
    burrowed into the Covid numbers, the more problems she saw. And
    remarkably, all the errors she identified made things seem worse and >>>>> more dangerous than they were.

    Krohnert did get some recognition and vindication. After she alerted the >>>>> authors of the study about their errors regarding Covids risks to
    children, they immediately made corrections, and the CDC eventually
    stopped claiming Covid was one of the top five killers of children. Yet >>>>> Krohnert said the agency never responded to her directly. It also
    characterized her as just a person with a web page or a blog in an >>>>> email that became public following an FOIA request to the studys
    authors. And it plowed ahead with approval of the childhood Covid
    vaccine. After Krohnert replied to a post by Surgeon General Jerome
    Adams that defended Covid vaccine trials, he posted a thread. You trust >>>>> your electrician / plumber / tax preparer. You should trust your doc, >>>>> Adams wrote.

    As for the inflated case numbers? Eventually, the CDC quietly removed >>>>> 72,277 misattributed deaths from the Covid Data Tracker, a data
    correction attributed to Krohnerts advocacy by The BMJ (formerly the >>>>> British Medical Journal).

    Looking back now through the fog of Covid, it is easy to overlook the >>>>> data nerds, virologists, epidemiologists, and ordinary citizens like >>>>> Krohnert who, scattered across the country, doggedly fact-checked the >>>>> U.S. government. For their efforts, they were censored and shadow-banned >>>>> on social media, scorned by polite society, and discredited as
    dangerous, science-denying conspiracy theorists by high-level government >>>>> officials and the mainstream media. But they persisted, and 40 to 50 of >>>>> them eventually connected on Twitter, creating an informal group they >>>>> dubbed Rational Ground/Team Reality.


    In 2022, Kelly Krohnert discovered that a study cited by the CDC during >>>>> its push for a pediatric Covid vaccine vastly inflated the diseases >>>>> risk to children. (Michael Nagle/Xinhua via Getty Images)
    And since then, times have changed. Today, Team Reality is seeing their >>>>> recommendations adopted by the federal government.

    One of the medical experts who broke with the consensus during the
    pandemic and joined forces with Rational Ground, Dr. Jay Bhattacharya, a >>>>> professor of health policy at Stanford University School of Medicine, is >>>>> now the director of the National Institutes of Health. Two weeks ago, in >>>>> one of his first official actions, Bhattacharya announced that the NIH >>>>> will accelerate the rollout of a plan to make available to the public >>>>> all data gathered from taxpayer-funded NIH scientific research studies. >>>>> Its a policy recommendation consistently put forth by members of
    Rational Ground.

    I believe very strongly that the products and data produced by
    scientific projects paid for by the public should be available to the >>>>> public, Bhattacharya told me in an email. Just 26 percent of Americans >>>>> have a great deal of confidence that scientists are working for the
    public good, a recent poll found. Bhattacharya said rebuilding that
    fractured trust is at the core of what he must accomplish in his new job. >>>>>

    It was a kind of pinch-me moment, said Justin Hart, a 53-year-old data >>>>> and marketing consultant based in San Diego, about a gathering a few >>>>> weeks ago with Bhattacharya near Washington to celebrate the appointment >>>>> of the fringe epidemiologist, as he was baselessly called by former >>>>> NIH director Dr. Francis Collins, to run the agency.

    Just two years ago, Hart, his wife Jenny, their toddler daughter, and >>>>> Bhattacharya had walked the halls of Capitol Hill, passing out a
    one-page Rational Ground advocacy sheet and fruitlessly seeking
    conversations with lawmakers willing to consider their heterodox views. >>>>>
    Hart and Bhattacharya connected in the early days of the pandemic thanks >>>>> to mutual friends at Stanford. A small group gathered to meet after
    reading an article by Dr. John Ioannidis, a Stanford statistician and >>>>> professor of biomedical data science. He said some of the same things >>>>> they had all been thinking, including his warning in March 2020 that >>>>> public-health officials were making consequential decisions without good >>>>> data and calling the Covid response a potential fiasco in the making. >>>>>
    From there, Team Reality grew. They became supporters of the Great >>>>> Barrington Declaration, a document written by Bhattacharya and two
    colleagues, advocating for focused protection for those most vulnerable >>>>> to Covid, and a return to close-to-normal life for the rest of society. >>>>> The team plowed ahead with their advocacy, taking solace in their ragtag >>>>> community when they faced the scorn of the mainstream.

    We had people who were apolitical, people who were Democrats, people >>>>> who were very conservative Republicans, said Hart. Its amazing how >>>>> unifying it can be when the government starts pushing around our kids >>>>> and impinging our freedoms.


    Matt Shapiro, who goes by the handle @PoliticalMath on X, describes
    himself as a right-of-center, insatiably curious
    artificial-intelligence engineer. (William DeShazer for The Free Press) >>>>> Matt Shapiro, who goes by the handle @PoliticalMath on X and lives
    outside Atlanta, signed up early in the pandemic to process data for The >>>>> Atlantics Covid Tracking Project, the most complete data repository of >>>>> Covids impact in the U.S. Shapiro describes himself as a
    right-of-center, insatiably curious artificial-intelligence engineer >>>>> with a background in data management, and he was eager to put his
    data-mining skills to work for the common good. His work became a
    full-time Covid hobby, he said. Shapiro joined other volunteersgood >>>>> people trying to do an important thingto input data, analyze trends, >>>>> and make data-based recommendations to help shape public health.

    But when the data told a story that contradicted the Centers for Disease >>>>> Control and Preventions recommendations, for example, that Covid spread >>>>> as quickly in places with mask mandates as it did in places without
    them, his mostly left-leaning colleagues on the team went silent. All >>>>> my data friends that I had made doing all this work together were just >>>>> like, Not touching that,? he recalled.

    Shapiro said he was mocked and isolated for questioning the predominant >>>>> narrative that shuttering schools and businesses was lifesaving. More >>>>> alarming to him were the massive implications such conformity had for >>>>> society. Thats not the story were telling ourselves about who we
    are, he told me.


    Tracking Covid data became Matt Shapiros full-time hobby during the >>>>> pandemic, he said. (William DeShazer for The Free Press)
    It was different with Rational Ground/Team Reality. Members of the group >>>>> worked to provide data for Dr. Scott Atlas, a Covid adviser during the >>>>> first Trump administration, who used their findings to refute CDC
    assessments at briefings. They advised governors and state-level Covid >>>>> task forces, like that of Florida governor Ron DeSantis, and federal >>>>> lawmakers such as Andrew Clyde of Georgia and Dan Crenshaw of Texas, all >>>>> Republicans. They held regional gatherings and relentlessly pursued
    grassroots campaigns to correct and call out errors wherever they found >>>>> them.

    In such a diverse group, there was often sharp disagreement. Weve had >>>>> people rage-quit, said Hart. Like in any human endeavor, we definitely >>>>> have our moments where people dont see things in the same way, but we >>>>> had an open forum where we felt like we could hash it out and discuss >>>>> things.


    Five years later, Team Reality is still advocating for institutional >>>>> reforms based on what they saw during the pandemic. Under the leadership >>>>> of Bhattacharya, some of those changes are already happening. They want >>>>> safeguards to protect the American people from overreaching government >>>>> authority, and they think that constraining power and increasing
    transparency will ultimately help restore trust in public health.

    To achieve this, they want public-health policy discussions to be
    robust, with dissenting voices and a comprehensive cost-benefit analysis >>>>> of any public-health policy proposal before it becomes enforceable, even >>>>> in emergency situations.


    Government scientists do not have a monopoly on the truth, NIH
    director Jay Bhattacharya told The Free Press. (Andrew Harnik via Getty >>>>> Images)
    Public health policy decisions need a high quality of evidence
    demonstrating a good amount of benefit for a small amount of
    imposition, said Krohnert. With Covid, we got the opposite:
    low-quality evidence demonstrating a small amount of benefit with
    massive impositions and untold costs.

    They also call for radical transparency. Because CDC guidance during >>>>> Covid was often based on desired outcomes rather than actual data-driven >>>>> science, Shapiro said, data from any publicly funded study should be >>>>> publicly available. If you collect data with our taxpayer money, its >>>>> our data, and you should have to show it to us, rather than only showing >>>>> it if it achieves some end-policy goal, he said.

    Bhattacharya agrees. Government scientists do not have a monopoly on >>>>> the truth, which is most likely to be found by a spirit of open-minded >>>>> investigation, including by members of the public with access to the >>>>> same data as public-health officials, he told me.

    Humility is an uncommon virtue for top government officials, but
    Bhattacharya knows better than most how the experts can get things
    wrong. On topic after topic. . . Rational Ground analysts outperformed >>>>> and corrected government agencies, he told me. Rational Ground often >>>>> relied on data that agencies like the CDC had made publicly available to >>>>> correct the CDC itself on its misinterpretations of its own data.


    Matt Shapiro said he was mocked and isolated for questioning the
    predominant narrative during Covid that shuttering schools and
    businesses was lifesaving. (William DeShazer for The Free Press)
    Opening the data to the public could help extremists misrepresent data >>>>> and take it out of context, but the benefits outweigh the risks, said >>>>> Krohnert. Blocking access to data is not going to prevent bad actors >>>> >from spreading misinformation. If anything, it adds fuel to the fire, >>>>> because they can make up what they want and claim its from some study >>>>> the government doesnt want you to see,? she said.

    Other hoped-for reforms go far beyond data reporting. Its about what >>>>> gets studied to begin with. During the pandemic, policy decisions with >>>>> enormous effects, such as universal masking or standing six feet apart, >>>>> we now know were based on flawed research, or often just guesswork. But >>>>> according to Hart, the federal health agencies resisted funding studies >>>>> that might refute CDC recommendations.

    Then there is the matter of institutional conflicts of interest. For >>>>> example, Hart was dismayed to learn that the same people who sit on NIH >>>>> grant committees to decide where funding goes also make policy
    recommendations.

    Such conflicts are a problem. After watching the CDC make so many
    errorsand always in the same directionKrohnert co-wrote a paper for >>>>> the open-access Social Science Research Network, with Dr. Vinay Prasad, >>>>> the new head of the Food and Drug Administrations Center for Biologics >>>>> Evaluation and Research, calling for a firewall between the government >>>>> entities that gather statistics and those setting policy as a shield >>>>> against real or perceived systematic bias.

    Krohnert also thinks there need to be better conversations about the >>>>> nature and efficacy of CDC recommendations, which can be overly cautious >>>>> and reflect a low tolerance for risk, such as its recommendation not to >>>>> eat raw cookie dough. As a result, the general public often ignores the >>>>> CDCs advice.


    Blocking access to data is not going to prevent bad actors from
    spreading misinformation, Krohnert said. If anything, it adds fuel to >>>>> the fire. (Kendrick Brinson for The Free Press)
    Since their recommendations can take on the force of law, official
    recommendations by the CDC ought to include room for dissentor at least >>>>> some wiggle room, depending on the circumstances, Krohnert said. For >>>>> example, a recommendation to wear masks to prevent the spread of disease >>>>> might come with a qualification that it might not be appropriate in
    every situation, so that pediatric speech-therapy clinics and preschools >>>>> neednt worry about getting sued for failing to follow the agencys advice.

    And though they do want sweeping reform, Team Reality dont want to burn >>>>> the house down completely. Krohnert said she doesnt want to render the >>>>> CDC useless. Just the opposite. She believes that Americans need
    entities they can trust, though government power usually should be
    limited to the ability to recommend and not compel.

    Public-health enforcing isolation of very sick, very contagious people >>>>> is not particularly controversial, she said. But during Covid, we had >>>>> public-health enforcing quarantine of healthy individuals.

    We just seemed to skip over all the ethics of that.

    There is, understandably, some concern that, as the editors of The Free >>>>> Press wrote yesterday in an editorial about public health, this
    administrations approach to reform often uses a hacksaw when a scalpel >>>>> is called for. And yet, the people Trump has selected to lead the NIH, >>>>> CDC, and FDA are highly credentialed, well-respected, and extremely
    competent, and they are advocating policies that are as careful as they >>>>> are radical. These arent Robespierre lieutenants being elevated to >>>>> judge, jury, and executioner when the revolution was won, said Hart. >>>>> These are the people who shouldve been running things in the first place.

    In the interim, we are 100% prepared/protected in the "full armor of
    GOD" (Ephesians 6:11) which we put on as soon as we use Apostle Paul's >>>> secret (Philippians 4:12). Though masking is less protective, it helps >>>> us avoid the appearance of doing the evil of spreading airborne
    pathogens while there are people getting sick because of not being
    100% protected. It is written that we're to "abstain from **all**
    appearance of doing evil" (1 Thessalonians 5:22 w/**emphasis**).

    Meanwhile, the only *perfect* (Matt 5:47-8 ) way to eradicate the
    COVID-19 virus, thereby saving lives, in the US & elsewhere is by
    rapidly (i.e. use the "Rapid COVID-19 Test" ) finding out at any given >>>> moment, including even while on-line, who among us are unwittingly
    contagious (i.e pre-symptomatic or asymptomatic) in order to
    "convince it forward" (John 15:12) for them to call their doctor and
    self-quarantine per their doctor in hopes of stopping this pandemic.
    Thus, we're hoping for the best while preparing for the worse-case
    scenario of the Alpha lineage mutations and others like the Omicron,
    Gamma, Beta, Epsilon, Iota, Lambda, Mu & Delta lineage mutations
    combining via slip-RNA-replication to form hybrids like "Deltamicron"
    that may render current COVID vaccines/monoclonals/medicines/pills no
    longer effective.

    Indeed, I am wonderfully hungry (
    https://groups.google.com/g/sci.med.cardiology/c/6ZoE95d-VKc/m/14vVZoyOBgAJ
    ) and hope you, Michael, also have a healthy appetite too.

    So how are you ?

    I am wonderfully hungry!

    While wonderfully hungry in the Holy Spirit, Who causes (Deuteronomy
    8:3) us to hunger, I note that you, Michael, are rapture ready (Luke
    17:37 means no COVID just as eagles circling over their food have no
    COVID) and pray (2 Chronicles 7:14) that our Everlasting (Isaiah 9:6)
    Father in Heaven continues to give us "much more" (Luke 11:13) Holy
    Spirit (Galatians 5:22-23) so that we'd have much more of His Help to
    always say/write that we're "wonderfully hungry" in **all** ways
    including especially caring to "convince it forward" (John 15:12) with
    all glory (Psalm112:1) to GOD (aka HaShem, Elohim, Abba, DEO), in
    the name (John 16:23) of LORD Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Amen.

    Laus DEO !

    USENET Source:

    https://narkive.com/ydgzqjDt.7

    Thank you for noting that I have no COVID.

    Just please do likewise as our LORD Jesus & I have done for you,
    Michael, and http://go.WDJW.net/ConvinceItForward (John 15:12) to be https://bit.ly/Wonderfully_Hungrier more blessed by GOD right now
    (Luke 6:21a):

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3MK66v5lh4M

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  • From HeartDoc Andrew@21:1/5 to All on Wed May 21 17:57:32 2025
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    <Kelley> 05/21/25 Loose/KK tragically vainjangling (1 Tim 1:6) ...

    https://groups.google.com/g/sci.med.cardiology/c/4tIJn_I167w/m/bKWQRUarAgAJ

    Link to post explicating vainjangling by the eternally condemned: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/O23NguTslhI/-xLGqnNjAAAJ

    "Like a moth to flame, the eternally condemned tragically return to be
    ever more cursed by GOD."

    Behold in wide-eyed wonder and amazement at the continued fulfillment
    of this prophecy as clearly demonstrated within the following USENET
    threads:

    (1) Link to thread titled "LORD Jesus Christ of Nazareth is our #1
    Example of being wonderfully hungry;"

    https://groups.google.com/g/sci.med.cardiology/c/_iVmOb7q3_Q/m/E8L7TNNtAgAJ

    (2) Link to thread titled "Being wonderfully hungry;"

    https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/sci.med.cardiology/uCPb3ldOv5M

    (3) Link to thread titled "A very very very simple definition of sin;"

    https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.bible.prophecy/xunFWhan_AM

    (4) Link to thread titled "The LORD says 'Blessed are you who hunger
    now;'"

    https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.bible.prophecy/e4sW8dr44rM

    (5) Link to thread titled "Being wonderfully hungry like LORD Jesus;"

    https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/xPY1Uzl-ZNk/QeKLDNCpCwAJ

    ... for the continued benefit (Romans 8:28) of those of us who are http://WonderfullyHungry.org like GOD ( http://bit.ly/Lk2442 ) with
    all glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to the LORD.

    Source: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/O23NguTslhI/pIZcsOCJBwAJ

    Laus DEO !

    While wonderfully hungry ( http://bit.ly/Philippians4_12 ) in the Holy
    Spirit, Who causes (Deuteronomy 8:3) me to hunger right now (Luke
    6:21a), I pray (2 Chronicles 7:14) that GOD continues to curse
    (Jeremiah 17:5) you, who are eternally condemned (Mark 3:29), more
    than ever in the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Amen.

    Laus DEO ! ! !

    Bottom line: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/O23NguTslhI/h5lE-mr0DAAJ

    <begin trichotomy>

    (1) Born-again (John 3:3 & 5) humans - Folks who have GOD's Help (i.e.
    Holy Spirit) to stop (John 5:14) sinning by being
    http://WonderfullyHungry.org (Philippians 4:12) **but** are still
    able to choose via their own "free will" to be instead http://bit.ly/terribly_hungry (Genesis 25:32) trapped in the
    entangling (Hebrews 12:1) deadly (i.e. killed immortals Adam&Eve) sin
    of gluttony (Proverbs 23:2).

    (2) Eternally condemned (Mark 3:29) humans - Folks who will never have
    GOD's Help (i.e. Holy Spirit) to stop being
    http://bit.ly/terribly_hungry (2 Kings 6:29) as evident by their
    constant vainjangling (1 Timothy 1:6) about everything except how to
    stop (John 5:14) sinning.

    (3) Perishing humans - The remaining folks who may possibly (Matthew
    19:26) become born-again (John 3:3 & 5) as new (2 Corinthians 5:17)
    creatures in Christ.

    <end trichotomy>

    Suggested further reading:
    http://T3WiJ.com

    +++

    someone eternally condemned & ever more cursed by GOD wrote:
    HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

    Subject: The LORD says "Blessed are you who hunger now ..."

    Source: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/e4sW8dr44rM/NSkTJxvFBAAJ

    Shame on andrew, look at his red face.

    LIE.

    The color of my face in **not** visible here on USENET nor is the
    color of my face red for those who can see me.

    He is trying to pull a fast one. His scripture bit is found among these:

    '14 Bible verses about Spiritual Hunger'

    Such are the lies coming from the lying pens of the http://bit.ly/terribly_hungry (Genesis 25:32) commentators.

    That which is "spiritual" is independent of time so that there
    would've been no reference to "now."

    Therefore, the LORD is referring to physical hunger here instead of
    the spiritual "hunger and thirst for righteousness" elsewhere in
    Scripture.

    Indeed, physical hunger can **not** coexist with physical thirst
    because the latter results in the loss of saliva needed for physical
    hunger.

    It is when we hunger for food "now" (Luke 6:21a) that we are able to
    eat food "now."

    No such time constraints exist for "spiritual hunger."

    Moreover, the perspective of Luke 6:21a through the eyes of a
    physician (i.e. Dr. Luke) would be logically expected to be physical
    instead of spiritual.

    All glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD for His compelling you
    to unwittingly demonstrate your ever worsening cognitive condition
    which is tragically a consequence of His cursing (Jeremiah 17:5) you
    more than ever.

    Laus DEO !

    +++

    someone eternally condemned & ever more cursed by GOD perseverated:
    (in a vain attempt to refute posts about being wonderfully hungry)

    Psalms
    81:10 I am the LORD thy God, which brought thee out of the land of Egypt: >open thy mouth wide, and I will fill it.

    Indeed, receiving a mouthful (Psalm 81:10) of manna from GOD will only
    make His http://WDJW.great-site.net/Redeemed want even more, so that
    we're even http://bit.ly/wonderfully_hungrier with all glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD.

    Laus DEO !

    Proverbs
    13:25 The righteous has enough to satisfy his appetite, But the stomach of >the wicked is in need.

    Indeed, the righteous know to be satisfied (Luke 6:21a) with an omer
    (Exodus 16:16) of manna, while the wicked need (Proverbs 13:25) this
    knowledge as evident by their eating until they are full (i.e.
    satiated).

    Joel
    2:26 And ye shall eat in plenty, and be satisfied, and praise the name of
    the LORD your God, that hath dealt wondrously with you: and my
    people shall never be ashamed.

    Indeed, an omer (32 ounces per Revelation 6:6) of manna is plenty
    (Joel 2:26) with all glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD and to
    the shame of you, who are eternally (Mark 3:29) condemned.

    Laus DEO ! !

    Psalms
    107 For he satisfies the thirsty and fills the hungry with good things.

    Indeed, being filled (Psalm 107:9) with an omer (Exodus 16:16) of
    manna is a Wonderful (Isaiah 9:6) thing while being satiated (i.e.
    full) is evil.

    Acts
    14:17 "Yet he did not leave himself without witness, for he did good by >giving you rains from heaven and fruitful seasons, satisfying
    your hearts with food and gladness."

    In the interim, you, who are eternally (Mark 3:29) condemned, will
    never be satisfied (Acts 14:17) because you are ever more cursed
    (Jeremiah 17:5) by GOD.

    Source: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/uCPb3ldOv5M/KgM8NFKuAQAJ

    +++

    someone eternally condemned & ever more cursed by GOD perseverated:
    HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

    Subject: a very very very simple definition of sin ...

    Source: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/mXmFD9kIocc/y8GNXircBQAJ

    Does andrew's "definition" agree with scripture? Let's see in 1 John:

    Actually, sin is **not** defined in 1 John 1:8-10

    John wrote this to christians. The greek grammer (sic) speaks of an ongoing >> status. He includes himself in that status.

    John was a Jew instead of a Greek so there is really no reason to
    think that Greek grammar is relevant here.

    1:8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is
    not in us.

    1:9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, >> and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

    1:10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is >> not in us.

    John also wrote earlier at John 5:14 that LORD Jesus commands:

    "Now stop sinning or something worse may happen to you." (John 5:14)

    And, indeed, your being eternally condemned (Mark 3:29) & ever more
    cursed (Jeremiah 17:5) by GOD, as evident by your ever worsening
    cognitive deficits, is really worse.

    Now again, here's how to really stop sinning as LORD Jesus commands
    (John 5:14):

    https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/2-Qpn-o81J4/ldGubKEZAgAJ

    While wonderfully hungry ( http://bit.ly/Philippians4_12 ) in the Holy
    Spirit, Who causes (Deuteronomy 8:3) me to hunger right now (Luke
    6:21a), I again pray (2 Chronicles 7:14) that GOD continues to curse
    (Jeremiah 17:5) you, who are eternally condemned (Mark 3:29), more
    than ever in the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Amen.

    Laus DEO ! ! !

    Again, this is done in hopes of convincing all reading this to stop
    being http://bit.ly/terribly_hungry (2 Kings 6:29) where all are in
    danger of becoming eternally condemned (Mark 3:29) just as had
    happened to Ananias and Sapphira and more contemporaneously to Bob
    Pastorio.

    Again, the LORD did strike down http://bit.ly/Bob_Pastorio on Fool's
    day just 9+ years ago:

    http://bobs-amanuensis.livejournal.com/8728.html

    Again, this is done ...

    http://bit.ly/HeartDocAndrew touts hunger (Luke 6:21a) with all glory
    ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD, Who causes us to hunger
    (Deuteronomy 8:3) when He blesses us right now (Luke 6:21a) thereby
    removing the http://WDJW.great-site.net/VAT from around the heart

    ...because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart,

    HeartDoc Andrew <><
    --
    Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
    Cardiologist with an http://bit.ly/EternalMedicalLicense
    2024 & upwards non-partisan candidate for U.S. President: http://WonderfullyHungry.org
    and author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
    http://bit.ly/HeartDocAndrewCare
    which is the only **healthy** cure for the U.S. healthcare crisis

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  • From HeartDoc Andrew@21:1/5 to All on Thu May 22 12:18:40 2025
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    (Kelley) 05/22/25 Again praying w/ MichaelE here ...

    https://narkive.com/ydgzqjDt.7

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  • From HeartDoc Andrew@21:1/5 to All on Fri May 23 11:46:58 2025
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    (Kelley) 05/23/25 Again praying w/ MichaelE here ...

    https://narkive.com/ydgzqjDt.7

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