• Joint drills in the Bering?

    From Creon@21:1/5 to All on Tue Sep 27 11:54:25 2022
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    https://www.navytimes.com/news/your-navy/2022/09/27/coast-guard-spots-chinese-russian-naval-ships-off-alaska-island/

    Chinese and Russians doing joint drills, eh? So says
    this navy times site, as well as what appears to
    be _Stars and Stripes_.

    Can anyone shed light on the voracity of
    these claims of Sino/Russo joint drills? Wondering
    if that is just a mighty wurlitzer moment.

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    -Creon

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  • From a425couple@21:1/5 to Creon on Tue Sep 27 10:16:49 2022
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    On 09/27/2022 04:54 AM, Creon wrote:
    https://www.navytimes.com/news/your-navy/2022/09/27/coast-guard-spots-chinese-russian-naval-ships-off-alaska-island/

    Chinese and Russians doing joint drills, eh? So says
    this navy times site, as well as what appears to
    be _Stars and Stripes_.

    Can anyone shed light on the voracity of
    these claims of Sino/Russo joint drills? Wondering
    if that is just a mighty wurlitzer moment.

    They would/could both gain by regular maritime shipping
    and use of the Northwest passage.

    Many less miles from Shanghai to Netherlands,
    or even Shanghai to a to be built major rail hub in
    Murmansk.

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  • From a425couple@21:1/5 to Creon on Tue Sep 27 14:45:40 2022
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    On 09/27/2022 04:54 AM, Creon wrote:
    https://www.navytimes.com/news/your-navy/2022/09/27/coast-guard-spots-chinese-russian-naval-ships-off-alaska-island/

    Chinese and Russians doing joint drills, eh? So says
    this navy times site, as well as what appears to
    be _Stars and Stripes_.

    Can anyone shed light on the voracity of
    these claims of Sino/Russo joint drills? Wondering
    if that is just a mighty wurlitzer moment.


    Plenty of sources say the two nations are drilling together:

    The Moscow Times
    The Moscow Times
    China, Russia Stage Pacific Navy Drills
    12 days ago

    Russia and China Hold N. Pacific Naval Drills as Leaders Meet
    The Maritime Executive
    12 days ago

    Newsweek
    Russian and Chinese Navy Ships Spotted Less Than 100 Miles off U.S. Coast
    5 hours ago

    National Review
    China and Russia to Conduct Naval Drills near Disputed Islands over
    Japanese Protests
    Aug 29

    USNI News
    USNI News
    Chinese, Russian Warships Hold Live Fire Drills off Japan as Part of
    Vostok 2022 - USNI News
    22 days ago

    ---------------
    the newsweek story says:

    "A group of Russian and Chinese warships were spotted in the Bering Sea
    several dozen miles off an Alaskan island on September 19, the U.S.
    Coast Guard said on Monday, confirming Moscow and Beijing's second
    joint-patrol in 12 months.

    The crew of the Legend-class cutter USCGC Kimball monitored a surface
    action group comprising at least seven ships—four of the Russian Navy
    and three of the Chinese People's Liberation Army (PLA) Navy, according
    to the Coast Guard's 17th District.

    A statement said the Chinese navy's Type 055 destroyer Nanchang, which
    the U.S. classifies as a guided-missile cruiser, sailed approximately 75 nautical miles north of Kiska Island. The Nanchang was joined by two
    other Chinese vessels and four Russian naval vessels, "all in a single formation" as they operated in the U.S. exclusive economic zone.

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  • From Creon@21:1/5 to a425couple@hotmail.com on Wed Sep 28 23:28:22 2022
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    In <9aKYK.459917$6Il8.323108@fx14.iad>, a425couple
    <a425couple@hotmail.com> wrote:

    On 09/27/2022 04:54 AM, Creon wrote:
    https://www.navytimes.com/news/your-navy/2022/09/27/coast-guard-spots- chinese-russian-naval-ships-off-alaska-island/

    Chinese and Russians doing joint drills, eh? So says this navy times
    site, as well as what appears to be _Stars and Stripes_.

    Can anyone shed light on the voracity of these claims of Sino/Russo
    joint drills? Wondering if that is just a mighty wurlitzer moment.


    Plenty of sources say the two nations are drilling together:

    The Moscow Times The Moscow Times China, Russia Stage Pacific Navy
    Drills 12 days ago

    Russia and China Hold N. Pacific Naval Drills as Leaders Meet The
    Maritime Executive 12 days ago

    Newsweek Russian and Chinese Navy Ships Spotted Less Than 100 Miles off
    U.S. Coast 5 hours ago

    National Review China and Russia to Conduct Naval Drills near Disputed Islands over Japanese Protests Aug 29

    USNI News USNI News Chinese, Russian Warships Hold Live Fire Drills off
    Japan as Part of Vostok 2022 - USNI News 22 days ago

    ---------------
    the newsweek story says:

    "A group of Russian and Chinese warships were spotted in the Bering Sea several dozen miles off an Alaskan island on September 19, the U.S.
    Coast Guard said on Monday, confirming Moscow and Beijing's second joint-patrol in 12 months.

    The crew of the Legend-class cutter USCGC Kimball monitored a surface
    action group comprising at least seven ships—four of the Russian Navy
    and three of the Chinese People's Liberation Army (PLA) Navy, according
    to the Coast Guard's 17th District.

    A statement said the Chinese navy's Type 055 destroyer Nanchang, which
    the U.S. classifies as a guided-missile cruiser, sailed approximately 75 nautical miles north of Kiska Island. The Nanchang was joined by two
    other Chinese vessels and four Russian naval vessels, "all in a single formation" as they operated in the U.S. exclusive economic zone.

    Very unsettling. I'm surprised we didn't push
    them out of the EEZ. Maybe that's the point.

    --
    -Creon

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  • From Dean Markley@21:1/5 to Creon on Thu Sep 29 04:34:59 2022
    On Wednesday, September 28, 2022 at 7:28:26 PM UTC-4, Creon wrote:
    In <9aKYK.459917$6Il8....@fx14.iad>, a425couple
    <a425c...@hotmail.com> wrote:

    On 09/27/2022 04:54 AM, Creon wrote:
    https://www.navytimes.com/news/your-navy/2022/09/27/coast-guard-spots- chinese-russian-naval-ships-off-alaska-island/

    Chinese and Russians doing joint drills, eh? So says this navy times
    site, as well as what appears to be _Stars and Stripes_.

    Can anyone shed light on the voracity of these claims of Sino/Russo
    joint drills? Wondering if that is just a mighty wurlitzer moment.


    Plenty of sources say the two nations are drilling together:

    The Moscow Times The Moscow Times China, Russia Stage Pacific Navy
    Drills 12 days ago

    Russia and China Hold N. Pacific Naval Drills as Leaders Meet The
    Maritime Executive 12 days ago

    Newsweek Russian and Chinese Navy Ships Spotted Less Than 100 Miles off U.S. Coast 5 hours ago

    National Review China and Russia to Conduct Naval Drills near Disputed Islands over Japanese Protests Aug 29

    USNI News USNI News Chinese, Russian Warships Hold Live Fire Drills off Japan as Part of Vostok 2022 - USNI News 22 days ago

    ---------------
    the newsweek story says:

    "A group of Russian and Chinese warships were spotted in the Bering Sea several dozen miles off an Alaskan island on September 19, the U.S.
    Coast Guard said on Monday, confirming Moscow and Beijing's second joint-patrol in 12 months.

    The crew of the Legend-class cutter USCGC Kimball monitored a surface action group comprising at least seven ships—four of the Russian Navy and three of the Chinese People's Liberation Army (PLA) Navy, according
    to the Coast Guard's 17th District.

    A statement said the Chinese navy's Type 055 destroyer Nanchang, which
    the U.S. classifies as a guided-missile cruiser, sailed approximately 75 nautical miles north of Kiska Island. The Nanchang was joined by two
    other Chinese vessels and four Russian naval vessels, "all in a single formation" as they operated in the U.S. exclusive economic zone.
    Very unsettling. I'm surprised we didn't push
    them out of the EEZ. Maybe that's the point.

    --
    -Creon
    How would you push them out of an EEZ? Unless they were illegally fishing or mining, EEZ's are international waters.

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