• OT - Sci-Fi book "Saturn Run" by John Sandford

    From a425couple@21:1/5 to All on Thu Apr 20 19:10:56 2023
    Yeah, actions by and on a sci-fi space ship are
    not naval, but someone here might enjoy knowing
    about this book.

    Thoughts on "Saturn Run" by John Sanford
    I very much enjoyed the majority of this book.
    It is 'hard science fiction' or all plausible with what we
    know of physics in the next 50 years. If you enjoy Arthur
    C. Clarke, but wish for more character development you will
    probably also enjoy this. In fact this has some similarities
    with Clarke's Star Glider * and Rama, with a trading post thrown in.
    It was written in 2015.

    It starts in the year 2066 and both the US and China have a
    very large presence in Earth orbit. China is preparing to
    launch a very major ship to colonize Mars. In the US, a very
    competent but seemingly unmotivated slacker doing a chance
    camera check, spots an object, decelerating to go into
    orbit around Saturn. Yes, decelerating! Double check all,
    it is definitely an alien starship!

    The US quickly starts gearing up to go check this out.
    Then that earlier spotted alien starship lights up to
    exit our solar system and everyone takes notice, and
    the very competitive race is on!

    This appears to be Sanford's only Sci-Fi book but he
    has done a bunch of mystery books.

    Here is the Amazon cite on it:
    (you can get it delivered used to your door for $5.23 !) https://www.amazon.com/Saturn-Run-John-Sandford/product-reviews/1101987529/ref=cm_cr_dp_d_show_all_btm?ie=UTF8&reviewerType=all_reviews

    They rate it a 4.1. ??

    One of the reviewers " Asptsman said,
    5.0 out of 5 stars Sanford just doesn't miss.
    Reviewed in the United States 🇺🇸 on February 16, 2023
    Verified Purchase
    Couldn't put this book down. Have read everything else that Sanford has
    written and am a big fan. I think this is one of his best. Very fast
    pace and thought provoking story of how we might travel in space and how
    humans can invariably screw it up.

    One reviewer that I totally agree with said, "Once the book moved
    away from the neat technical stuff into more character driven stuff,
    things got less interesting for me. It's like, can the Chinese get
    any stupider? Huh, yeah they can."

    Here is the Goodreads cite on it: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/24611668-saturn-run
    (they rate it a 3.91.)

    Reviewer Bradley said, "
    Strong points: Characterization and the science. We can classify this
    pretty easily as a realistic SF, even including the the scenes of "Meet
    The Aliens". It's a Go To Saturn and Come Back novel, after all. No real
    need for anything truly out of the ordinary. After all, the novel's
    strong points are in its characters.
    I like Sandy and Crow. What can I say? The hooks were fantastic and
    strange and they just kept coming, adding some truly oddball mixes to
    the MCs. I never once got bored with any of the peeps."

    Reviewer Rachel said, "
    This was an engrossing near-future science fiction thriller that held my attention from start to finish. The premise was SO just intriguing. I
    was dying to know what they would find on Saturn. I thought the
    characters were decent, if a little stereotypical, ---"

    Here is the Kirkus Review: https://www.kirkusreviews.com/book-reviews/john-sandford/saturn-run/

    An excerpt, "Sanders Heacock Darlington may be nothing more than a
    wealthy, handsome intern assigned to the Sky Survey Observatory, but
    he’s the one who accidentally notices the evidence that something’s approaching the gravitational field of Saturn and decelerating. Heavenly
    bodies don’t decelerate that way, but spaceships do, and soon President Amanda Santeros (hey, it’s 2066) is pulling out all the stops to send a mission to Saturn to investigate. The stakes are so high ---"

    The Barnes and Noble cite is:
    Saturn Run - by John Sandford, Ctein

    Barnes & Noble
    https://www.barnesandnoble.com › Books
    John Sandford is an amazing, protean writer, and Saturn Run is a
    terrific story of alien first contact. It's a book Michael Crichton
    would have enjoyed, but ..."

    *
    Meanwhile as to Starglider * https://scifi.stackexchange.com/questions/198046/sci-fi-story-about-an-alien-ai-satellite-passing-through-the-solar-system
    The Fountains of Paradise by Arthur C. Clarke (Wikipedia, ISFDb)
    features Starglider, a craft that enters our solar system.

    That is a background story to the story of the construction of the first
    space elevator.

    The power of the signal was no longer surprising; its source was already
    well inside the solar system, and moving sunward at six hundred
    kilometres a second. The long-awaited, long-feared visitors from space
    had arrived at last.

    The Fountains of Paradise, chapter 12, "Starglider"

    It's flying rapidly through the solar system and is just on a course to
    utilize the gravity of the sun to be flung off somewhere else.

    Matches:

    And since - like our own early Pioneers and Voyagers - it employs the gravitational fields of the heavenly bodies to deflect it from star to
    star, it will operate indefinitely, unless mechanical failure or cosmic accident terminates its career. Centaurus was its eleventh port of call;
    after it had rounded our sun like a comet, its new course was aimed
    precisely at Tau Ceti, twelve light years away. If there is anyone
    there, it will be ready to start its next conversation soon after AD 8100.

    The Fountains of Paradise, chapter 14, "The Education of Starglider"

    The story ends with something like the AI giving the location from where
    it was sent, and (maybe?) noting that it has sent a signal there, [...]

    Sort of.

    For Starglider combines the functions both of ambassador and explorer.
    When, at the end of one of its millennial journeys, it discovers a technological culture, it makes friends with the natives and starts to
    trade information, in the only form of interstellar commerce that may
    ever be possible. And before it departs again on its endless voyage,
    after its brief transit of their solar system, Starglider gives the
    location of its home world - already awaiting a direct call from the
    newest member of the galactic telephone exchange.

    Ibid.

    But not as far, since it is noted that

    Now we have only to wait 104 years for an answer. How incredibly lucky
    we are, to have neighbours so close at hand.

    Ibid.

    [...] it doesn't even know if the alien civilization who sent it still
    exists.

    That doesn't match. It ends its conversation in a different way.

    Starholme informed me 456 years ago that the origin of the universe has
    been discovered but that I do not have the appropriate circuits to
    comprehend it. You must communicate direct for further information.

    I am now switching to cruise mode and must break contact. Goodbye.

    The Fountains of Paradise, chapter 16, "Conversations with Starglider"

    S

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  • From Dean Markley@21:1/5 to All on Fri Apr 21 08:13:21 2023
    On Thursday, April 20, 2023 at 10:11:00 PM UTC-4, a425couple wrote:
    Yeah, actions by and on a sci-fi space ship are
    not naval, but someone here might enjoy knowing
    about this book.

    Thoughts on "Saturn Run" by John Sanford
    I very much enjoyed the majority of this book.
    It is 'hard science fiction' or all plausible with what we
    know of physics in the next 50 years. If you enjoy Arthur
    C. Clarke, but wish for more character development you will
    probably also enjoy this. In fact this has some similarities
    with Clarke's Star Glider * and Rama, with a trading post thrown in.
    It was written in 2015.

    It starts in the year 2066 and both the US and China have a
    very large presence in Earth orbit. China is preparing to
    launch a very major ship to colonize Mars. In the US, a very
    competent but seemingly unmotivated slacker doing a chance
    camera check, spots an object, decelerating to go into
    orbit around Saturn. Yes, decelerating! Double check all,
    it is definitely an alien starship!

    The US quickly starts gearing up to go check this out.
    Then that earlier spotted alien starship lights up to
    exit our solar system and everyone takes notice, and
    the very competitive race is on!

    This appears to be Sanford's only Sci-Fi book but he
    has done a bunch of mystery books.

    Here is the Amazon cite on it:
    (you can get it delivered used to your door for $5.23 !) https://www.amazon.com/Saturn-Run-John-Sandford/product-reviews/1101987529/ref=cm_cr_dp_d_show_all_btm?ie=UTF8&reviewerType=all_reviews

    They rate it a 4.1. ??

    One of the reviewers " Asptsman said,
    5.0 out of 5 stars Sanford just doesn't miss.
    Reviewed in the United States 🇺🇸 on February 16, 2023
    Verified Purchase
    Couldn't put this book down. Have read everything else that Sanford has written and am a big fan. I think this is one of his best. Very fast
    pace and thought provoking story of how we might travel in space and how humans can invariably screw it up.

    One reviewer that I totally agree with said, "Once the book moved
    away from the neat technical stuff into more character driven stuff,
    things got less interesting for me. It's like, can the Chinese get
    any stupider? Huh, yeah they can."

    Here is the Goodreads cite on it: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/24611668-saturn-run
    (they rate it a 3.91.)

    Reviewer Bradley said, "
    Strong points: Characterization and the science. We can classify this
    pretty easily as a realistic SF, even including the the scenes of "Meet
    The Aliens". It's a Go To Saturn and Come Back novel, after all. No real need for anything truly out of the ordinary. After all, the novel's
    strong points are in its characters.
    I like Sandy and Crow. What can I say? The hooks were fantastic and
    strange and they just kept coming, adding some truly oddball mixes to
    the MCs. I never once got bored with any of the peeps."

    Reviewer Rachel said, "
    This was an engrossing near-future science fiction thriller that held my attention from start to finish. The premise was SO just intriguing. I
    was dying to know what they would find on Saturn. I thought the
    characters were decent, if a little stereotypical, ---"

    Here is the Kirkus Review: https://www.kirkusreviews.com/book-reviews/john-sandford/saturn-run/

    An excerpt, "Sanders Heacock Darlington may be nothing more than a
    wealthy, handsome intern assigned to the Sky Survey Observatory, but
    he’s the one who accidentally notices the evidence that something’s approaching the gravitational field of Saturn and decelerating. Heavenly bodies don’t decelerate that way, but spaceships do, and soon President Amanda Santeros (hey, it’s 2066) is pulling out all the stops to send a mission to Saturn to investigate. The stakes are so high ---"

    The Barnes and Noble cite is:
    Saturn Run - by John Sandford, Ctein

    Barnes & Noble
    https://www.barnesandnoble.com › Books
    John Sandford is an amazing, protean writer, and Saturn Run is a
    terrific story of alien first contact. It's a book Michael Crichton
    would have enjoyed, but ..."

    *
    Meanwhile as to Starglider * https://scifi.stackexchange.com/questions/198046/sci-fi-story-about-an-alien-ai-satellite-passing-through-the-solar-system
    The Fountains of Paradise by Arthur C. Clarke (Wikipedia, ISFDb)
    features Starglider, a craft that enters our solar system.

    That is a background story to the story of the construction of the first space elevator.

    The power of the signal was no longer surprising; its source was already well inside the solar system, and moving sunward at six hundred
    kilometres a second. The long-awaited, long-feared visitors from space
    had arrived at last.

    The Fountains of Paradise, chapter 12, "Starglider"

    It's flying rapidly through the solar system and is just on a course to utilize the gravity of the sun to be flung off somewhere else.

    Matches:

    And since - like our own early Pioneers and Voyagers - it employs the gravitational fields of the heavenly bodies to deflect it from star to
    star, it will operate indefinitely, unless mechanical failure or cosmic accident terminates its career. Centaurus was its eleventh port of call; after it had rounded our sun like a comet, its new course was aimed precisely at Tau Ceti, twelve light years away. If there is anyone
    there, it will be ready to start its next conversation soon after AD 8100.

    The Fountains of Paradise, chapter 14, "The Education of Starglider"

    The story ends with something like the AI giving the location from where
    it was sent, and (maybe?) noting that it has sent a signal there, [...]

    Sort of.

    For Starglider combines the functions both of ambassador and explorer.
    When, at the end of one of its millennial journeys, it discovers a technological culture, it makes friends with the natives and starts to
    trade information, in the only form of interstellar commerce that may
    ever be possible. And before it departs again on its endless voyage,
    after its brief transit of their solar system, Starglider gives the
    location of its home world - already awaiting a direct call from the
    newest member of the galactic telephone exchange.

    Ibid.

    But not as far, since it is noted that

    Now we have only to wait 104 years for an answer. How incredibly lucky
    we are, to have neighbours so close at hand.

    Ibid.

    [...] it doesn't even know if the alien civilization who sent it still exists.

    That doesn't match. It ends its conversation in a different way.

    Starholme informed me 456 years ago that the origin of the universe has
    been discovered but that I do not have the appropriate circuits to comprehend it. You must communicate direct for further information.

    I am now switching to cruise mode and must break contact. Goodbye.

    The Fountains of Paradise, chapter 16, "Conversations with Starglider"

    S


    Looks good so I just ordered it. Thanks!

    Dean

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  • From a425couple@21:1/5 to Dean Markley on Mon Apr 24 20:26:01 2023
    On 4/21/23 08:13, Dean Markley wrote:
    On Thursday, April 20, 2023 at 10:11:00 PM UTC-4, a425couple wrote:
    Yeah, actions by and on a sci-fi space ship are
    not naval, but someone here might enjoy knowing
    about this book.

    Thoughts on "Saturn Run" by John Sanford
    I very much enjoyed the majority of this book.



    Looks good so I just ordered it. Thanks!

    Dean

    Ohhh Boy. The pressure is on me now.
    I certainly hope your faith in my opinion
    turns out to be warranted!

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  • From Dean Markley@21:1/5 to All on Tue Apr 25 06:38:48 2023
    On Monday, April 24, 2023 at 11:26:04 PM UTC-4, a425couple wrote:
    On 4/21/23 08:13, Dean Markley wrote:
    On Thursday, April 20, 2023 at 10:11:00 PM UTC-4, a425couple wrote:
    Yeah, actions by and on a sci-fi space ship are
    not naval, but someone here might enjoy knowing
    about this book.

    Thoughts on "Saturn Run" by John Sanford
    I very much enjoyed the majority of this book.



    Looks good so I just ordered it. Thanks!

    Dean
    Ohhh Boy. The pressure is on me now.
    I certainly hope your faith in my opinion
    turns out to be warranted!

    If I don't like it, I am only out $8.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)