• Re: Republiscums/QAnon despise our military

    From FMF@21:1/5 to Lou Bricano on Sat Aug 26 20:59:25 2023
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    Lou Bricano <lb@cap.con> wrote in news:S3oGM.755528$AsA.543762@fx18.iad:

    On 8/26/2023 7:32 AM, David Hartung wrote:
    On 8/26/23 09:22, Lou Bricano wrote:
    "Pentagon protested false Fox News report about fallen Marine,
    emails show"

    The network quietly removed the story based on false claims from a
    congressman but did not apologize or run a correction

    By Paul Farhi
    August 26, 2023 at 6:00 a.m. EDT

    The U.S. Marine Corps went up to the highest levels of Fox News last
    month to challenge a story that falsely claimed a fallen Marine’s
    family had to cover the cost of transporting her remains, emails
    obtained by The Washington Post show.

    Fox quietly amended the digital story and then removed it from its
    website following more complaints from the Marines but still has not
    apologized or corrected the erroneous report, which had been based
    on a false claim quickly retracted by a congressman.

    The Marines’ communications with Fox were first reported by
    Military.com, which obtained the emails this week under a Freedom of
    Information Act request.

    The July 25 FoxNews.com story relied on an account from freshman
    Rep. Cory Mills (R-Fla.), who stated that the family of Sgt. Nicole
    L. Gee had shouldered “a heavy financial burden” of $60,000 to
    retrieve her body from Afghanistan. Gee, 23, was one of 13 U.S.
    service members killed in a suicide bombing at the Kabul airport in
    the frantic final days of the U.S. withdrawal.

    The story’s reporter, Michael Lee, quoted Mills calling the
    family’s supposed expenditures an “egregious injustice.”
    Neither Pentagon officials nor Gee’s family were quoted in the
    original story.

    Marine Corps officials say the family did not face any financial
    burdens to have Gee’s body shipped to Arlington National Cemetery.
    They disputed the story in a series of emails to Fox executives —
    including Fox News president and executive editor Jay Wallace and
    editor in chief Porter Berry — shortly after the story was
    published.

    “The allegations originally published turned out to be false,
    which I suspect Mr. Lee knew in the first place, and was the reason
    he did not seek comment from the Marine Corps,” wrote Marine Corps
    spokesman Maj. James Stenger in an email to the Fox executives.

    Two days after his original comments to Fox, Mills walked back his
    claims in a statement in which he seemed to blame the Pentagon and
    the Gee family for being “in their time of grief, confused”
    about the costs associated with the transportation of Sgt. Gee’s
    remains. He said the Department of Defense “was able to provide
    clarification” about the matter.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/media/2023/08/26/fox-news-retracts-mar
    ine-story-nicole-gee/

    Mills, a Republiscum/QAnon lying shitbag, slandered the Marine
    Corps. Fucks News, nothing but a Republiscum/QAnon propaganda organ,
    eagerly ran with the story.  Then Fucks News, when shown their
    story was lies, just quietly took it down without apologizing or
    issuing a retraction.

    Republiscums/QAnon always lie.  Besides spewing racist hate speech,
    lying is all they do.

    In all liklihood it is Rudy and the Washington Post who is lying.

    No. And you know it, too. It happened exactly as described in the
    WaPo (the co-Gold Standard).

    It's so easy to catch Rudy and his "sources" misrepresenting
    circumstances and facts.

    PENTAGON Published July 25, 2023 1:59pm EDT
    Family forced to pay to ship body of Marine killed after Pentagon policy change: 'Egregious injustice' Nonprofit stepped in to pay $60,000 to
    move Sgt. Nicole Gee's remains to Arlington National Cemetery

    A Republican lawmaker is sounding the alarm after being notified one of
    the 13 Gold Star families from the U.S. withdrawal from Afghanistan was
    forced to pay to move the body of their loved one.

    Rep. Cory Mills, R-Fla., who is also an Army veteran, told Fox News
    Digital that during a meeting with the families of the "Fallen 13" last
    week, he was "enraged to learn that the Department of Defense had placed
    a heavy financial burden" on the family of Marine Corps Sgt. Nicole L.
    Gee, who were forced to find funding in the thousands to move her body
    to its final resting place after her death 2021 death in Afghanistan.

    The Gee family was able to secure the funding, which came to "a
    staggering $60,000," to move their loved one's body after a nonprofit organization stepped in to cover the cost, Mills said.

    According to Mills' office, the option for the Defense Department to
    decline to pay for transport of the body was made possible by an
    amendment to last year's National Defense Authorization Act, stating
    that the secretary of Defense "may" provide a fallen service member's
    next of kin "a commercial air travel use waiver for the transportation
    of deceased remains of military member who dies inside a theater of
    combat operations.

    Gee's remains were initially flown to her hometown of Roseville,
    California, for a ceremony, but the responsibility for transporting Gee
    to her final resting place at Arlington National Cemetery would fall on
    the family. Honoring Our Fallen, a nonprofit dedicated to assisting the families of fallen American service members, stepped up to help the
    family transport the remains via private jet to Virginia.

    But Mills believes that the responsibility should fall on the Defense Department and not burden the families of fallen heroes.

    "Typically, our fallen heroes are flown back home for a solemn service
    and then laid to a final rest at Arlington Cemetery with the utmost
    respect and honor," Mills said. "It is an egregious injustice that
    grieving families were burdened to shoulder the financial strain of
    honoring their loved ones. This is an unacceptable situation that
    demands immediate rectification."

    The Pentagon did not immediately respond to a Fox News request for
    comment.

    Michael Lee is a writer at Fox News. Follow him on Twitter @UAMichaelLee

    https://www.foxnews.com/us/family-forced-pay-ship-body-marine-killed-afte r-pentagon-policy-change-egregious-injustice

    *

    IMO the family, politician, and the Washington Post are all to blame for
    the mess made of this story. The politician, being an Army veteran,
    should know better and have greater awareness of the services available
    to families of fallen members.

    *

    While serving in the US Marines, or any other branch of the US armed
    services, an enlisted or commissioned member must declare a permanent
    home of record. In the event that they become disabled or killed, their personal effects and remains will be shipped to the home of record, in
    this specific case Roseville, CA.

    At this point, the US Marines, Dept of the Navy, and DOD have completely
    100% fulfilled their obligation.

    *

    In the event of a service connected death, a notification team is
    dispatched to the family. Marine notificaiton teams are well prepared
    and versed. The senior member of the team will designate a coordinating
    member from the team members present and provide direct contact
    information for any assistance that may be needed including services
    provided by the Veterans Administration.

    At this point, the responsibility of the connected service ends and the
    VA takes over if requested by the family.

    *

    After the family received the remains of their service member to the
    home of record, they decided that they wanted permanent burial in
    Arlington, VA, instead of any other national cemetaries that were
    closer. This is a personal choice and decision they made.

    Apparently the national cemetary in Dixon, 50 miles from Roseville
    wasn't good enough. The Sacramento national cemetary in Dixon is a very
    nice well cared for final resting place.

    https://www.cem.va.gov/cems/nchp/sacramento.asp

    *

    There are nine national cemeteries in California.

    Five National Cemeteries are presently accepting new interments:

    Sacramento Valley VA National Cemetery, Dixon CA 95620
    Riverside National Cemetery, Riverside CA 92518
    San Joaquin Valley National Cemetery, Santa Nella CA 95322
    Miramar National Cemetery, San Diego CA 92122
    Bakersfield National Cemetery, Arvin CA 93203
    The other national cemeteries in California are only accepting burials
    of family members of persons already interred, although Fort Rosecrans
    National Cemetery ( San Diego CA 92106) still offers burial of cremated remains.

    Having experienced ceremonies at numerous national cemetaries, including Arlington, Sacramento or San Diego would also have been an excellent alternative choice and easy for future memorial visitation. They have
    optional horse drawn carriage transport for the remains to resting spot, bugler, clergy/chaplain, and a three-volley salute if requested and
    eligible (Death active duty or USAF retirees only). This is a very nice
    well maintained national cemetary.

    However, the family for reasons known only to them, opted to bury the
    remains as far away from them as possible in Arlington, VA.

    *

    National Cemetery Administration

    Burial Benefits
    Burial benefits available include a gravesite in any of the VA national cemeteries with available space, opening and closing of the grave,
    perpetual care, a government headstone, marker, or medallion, a burial
    flag, and a Presidential Memorial Certificate, at no cost to the family.
    Some Veterans may also be eligible for burial allowances. Cremated
    remains are buried or inurned in national cemeteries in the same manner
    and with the same honors as casketed remains.

    Burial benefits available for spouses and dependents buried in a
    national cemetery include burial with the Veteran, perpetual care, and
    the spouse or dependents name and date of birth and death will be
    inscribed on the Veteran's headstone, at no cost to the family. Eligible spouses and dependents may be buried, even if they predecease the
    Veteran.

    The Veterans family should make funeral or cremation arrangements with a funeral provider or cremation office. Any item or service obtained from
    a funeral home or cremation office will be at the family's expense. The Veterans Benefits Administration created Burial Benefits for Veterans
    and their Families, to assist in pre-need planning and record storage.

    https://youtu.be/eHrU-iXl8Zk

    Schedule a Burial
    To schedule a burial in a VA national cemetery, please contact the
    National Cemetery Scheduling Office.

    Eligibility
    The National Cemetery Scheduling Office has the primary responsibility
    for verifying eligibility for burial in VA national cemeteries.

    Headstones, Markers, and Medallions
    Most Veterans with a discharge other than dishonorable are eligible to
    receive headstones, markers, and medallions, at no cost to the
    applicant.

    Presidential Memorial Certificates
    A Presidential Memorial Certificate (PMC) is an engraved paper
    certificate, signed by the current President.

    Burial Flags
    A United States flag is provided, at no cost, to drape the casket or
    accompany the urn of a deceased Veteran who served honorably in the U.S.
    Armed Forces.

    Burial Allowance
    VA burial allowances are flat rate monetary benefits that are paid for
    an eligible Veteran's burial and funeral costs.

    Survivor Benefits
    The Veterans Benefits Administration offers a variety of benefits and
    services to spouses, children, and parents of Servicemembers and
    Veterans.

    What to Expect
    Learn more about what to expect when attending a burial service at a VA national cemetery.

    Pre-Need Burial Eligibility
    The pre-need program determines eligibility for burial in a VA national cemetery in advance of need.

    Burial at a Private Cemetery
    Many burial benefits are available for eligible Veterans buried in a
    private cemetery at no cost to the family.

    https://www.cem.va.gov/burial_benefits/

    *

    The U.S. Marines and DOD met their obligation by returning service
    member remains to the permanent home of record. It is up to the family
    to then arrange for burial per their beliefs and apply for reimbursement
    or any services.

    The family misrepresented the facts and circumstances by incorrectly
    claiming a financial burden. A clueless politician then poured gasoline
    while an ignorant journalist lit the match.

    Fox made no false journalistic indictments, the Washington Post did.

    Once again, Rudy Canoza proves that he has never served his country and
    has no knowledge about those who have done so.

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  • From Lou Bricano@21:1/5 to FMF on Sat Aug 26 14:45:11 2023
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    XPost: alt.journalism.criticism, talk.politics.guns

    On 8/26/2023 1:59 PM, FMF wrote:
    Lou Bricano <lb@cap.con> wrote in news:S3oGM.755528$AsA.543762@fx18.iad:

    On 8/26/2023 7:32 AM, David Hartung wrote:
    On 8/26/23 09:22, Lou Bricano wrote:
    "Pentagon protested false Fox News report about fallen Marine,
    emails show"

    The network quietly removed the story based on false claims from a
    congressman but did not apologize or run a correction

    By Paul Farhi
    August 26, 2023 at 6:00 a.m. EDT

    The U.S. Marine Corps went up to the highest levels of Fox News last
    month to challenge a story that falsely claimed a fallen Marine’s >>>> family had to cover the cost of transporting her remains, emails
    obtained by The Washington Post show.

    Fox quietly amended the digital story and then removed it from its
    website following more complaints from the Marines but still has not
    apologized or corrected the erroneous report, which had been based
    on a false claim quickly retracted by a congressman.

    The Marines’ communications with Fox were first reported by
    Military.com, which obtained the emails this week under a Freedom of
    Information Act request.

    The July 25 FoxNews.com story relied on an account from freshman
    Rep. Cory Mills (R-Fla.), who stated that the family of Sgt. Nicole
    L. Gee had shouldered “a heavy financial burden” of $60,000 to >>>> retrieve her body from Afghanistan. Gee, 23, was one of 13 U.S.
    service members killed in a suicide bombing at the Kabul airport in
    the frantic final days of the U.S. withdrawal.

    The story’s reporter, Michael Lee, quoted Mills calling the
    family’s supposed expenditures an “egregious injustice.”
    Neither Pentagon officials nor Gee’s family were quoted in the
    original story.

    Marine Corps officials say the family did not face any financial
    burdens to have Gee’s body shipped to Arlington National Cemetery. >>>> They disputed the story in a series of emails to Fox executives — >>>> including Fox News president and executive editor Jay Wallace and
    editor in chief Porter Berry — shortly after the story was
    published.

    “The allegations originally published turned out to be false,
    which I suspect Mr. Lee knew in the first place, and was the reason
    he did not seek comment from the Marine Corps,” wrote Marine Corps >>>> spokesman Maj. James Stenger in an email to the Fox executives.

    Two days after his original comments to Fox, Mills walked back his
    claims in a statement in which he seemed to blame the Pentagon and
    the Gee family for being “in their time of grief, confused” >>>> about the costs associated with the transportation of Sgt. Gee’s >>>> remains. He said the Department of Defense “was able to provide
    clarification” about the matter.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/media/2023/08/26/fox-news-retracts-mar
    ine-story-nicole-gee/

    Mills, a Republiscum/QAnon lying shitbag, slandered the Marine
    Corps. Fucks News, nothing but a Republiscum/QAnon propaganda organ,
    eagerly ran with the story.  Then Fucks News, when shown their
    story was lies, just quietly took it down without apologizing or
    issuing a retraction.

    Republiscums/QAnon always lie.  Besides spewing racist hate speech, >>>> lying is all they do.

    In all liklihood it is Rudy and the Washington Post who is lying.

    No. And you know it, too. It happened exactly as described in the
    WaPo (the co-Gold Standard).

    It's so easy to catch Rudy and his "sources" misrepresenting
    circumstances and facts.

    No misrepresentation.


    PENTAGON Published July 25, 2023 1:59pm EDT
    Family forced to pay to ship body of Marine killed after Pentagon policy change: 'Egregious injustice' Nonprofit stepped in to pay $60,000 to
    move Sgt. Nicole Gee's remains to Arlington National Cemetery

    This is false, and Fucks News indirectly admitted it.

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  • From Skeeter@21:1/5 to All on Sat Aug 26 15:52:04 2023
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    XPost: alt.journalism.criticism, talk.politics.guns

    In article <HnuGM.122745$zW7d.29376@fx43.iad>, lb@cap.con says...

    On 8/26/2023 1:59 PM, FMF wrote:
    Lou Bricano <lb@cap.con> wrote in news:S3oGM.755528$AsA.543762@fx18.iad:

    On 8/26/2023 7:32 AM, David Hartung wrote:
    On 8/26/23 09:22, Lou Bricano wrote:
    "Pentagon protested false Fox News report about fallen Marine,
    emails show"

    The network quietly removed the story based on false claims from a
    congressman but did not apologize or run a correction

    By Paul Farhi
    August 26, 2023 at 6:00 a.m. EDT

    The U.S. Marine Corps went up to the highest levels of Fox News last >>>> month to challenge a story that falsely claimed a fallen Marine?s
    family had to cover the cost of transporting her remains, emails
    obtained by The Washington Post show.

    Fox quietly amended the digital story and then removed it from its
    website following more complaints from the Marines but still has not >>>> apologized or corrected the erroneous report, which had been based
    on a false claim quickly retracted by a congressman.

    The Marines? communications with Fox were first reported by
    Military.com, which obtained the emails this week under a Freedom of >>>> Information Act request.

    The July 25 FoxNews.com story relied on an account from freshman
    Rep. Cory Mills (R-Fla.), who stated that the family of Sgt. Nicole
    L. Gee had shouldered sa heavy financial burdent of $60,000 to
    retrieve her body from Afghanistan. Gee, 23, was one of 13 U.S.
    service members killed in a suicide bombing at the Kabul airport in
    the frantic final days of the U.S. withdrawal.

    The story?s reporter, Michael Lee, quoted Mills calling the
    family?s supposed expenditures an segregious injustice.t
    Neither Pentagon officials nor Gee?s family were quoted in the
    original story.

    Marine Corps officials say the family did not face any financial
    burdens to have Gee?s body shipped to Arlington National Cemetery. >>>> They disputed the story in a series of emails to Fox executives ?
    including Fox News president and executive editor Jay Wallace and
    editor in chief Porter Berry ? shortly after the story was
    published.

    sThe allegations originally published turned out to be false,
    which I suspect Mr. Lee knew in the first place, and was the reason
    he did not seek comment from the Marine Corps,t wrote Marine Corps >>>> spokesman Maj. James Stenger in an email to the Fox executives.

    Two days after his original comments to Fox, Mills walked back his
    claims in a statement in which he seemed to blame the Pentagon and
    the Gee family for being sin their time of grief, confusedt
    about the costs associated with the transportation of Sgt. Gee?s
    remains. He said the Department of Defense swas able to provide
    clarificationt about the matter.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/media/2023/08/26/fox-news-retracts-mar >>>> ine-story-nicole-gee/

    Mills, a Republiscum/QAnon lying shitbag, slandered the Marine
    Corps. Fucks News, nothing but a Republiscum/QAnon propaganda organ, >>>> eagerly ran with the story.  Then Fucks News, when shown their
    story was lies, just quietly took it down without apologizing or
    issuing a retraction.

    Republiscums/QAnon always lie.  Besides spewing racist hate speech, >>>> lying is all they do.

    In all liklihood it is Rudy and the Washington Post who is lying.

    No. And you know it, too. It happened exactly as described in the
    WaPo (the co-Gold Standard).

    It's so easy to catch Rudy and his "sources" misrepresenting
    circumstances and facts.

    No misrepresentation.


    PENTAGON Published July 25, 2023 1:59pm EDT
    Family forced to pay to ship body of Marine killed after Pentagon policy change: 'Egregious injustice' Nonprofit stepped in to pay $60,000 to
    move Sgt. Nicole Gee's remains to Arlington National Cemetery

    This is false, and Fucks News indirectly admitted it.

    "indirectly admitted it." means they never admitted it and I am lying
    again.


    --
    " They're not after me, they are after you! I'm just in the way"

    " Go Peacefully"

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  • From Michael A Terrell@21:1/5 to All on Sat Aug 26 15:54:53 2023
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    XPost: alt.journalism.criticism, talk.politics.guns

    On 8/26/2023 2:52 PM, [Default] Skeeter-Shit Jack-Off Shit-4-Braincell, convicted child molester and another fucking do-nothing, lied:

    In article <HnuGM.122745$zW7d.29376@fx43.iad>, lb@cap.con says...

    On 8/26/2023 1:59 PM, FMF wrote:
    Lou Bricano <lb@cap.con> wrote in news:S3oGM.755528$AsA.543762@fx18.iad: >>>
    On 8/26/2023 7:32 AM, David Hartung wrote:
    On 8/26/23 09:22, Lou Bricano wrote:
    "Pentagon protested false Fox News report about fallen Marine,
    emails show"

    The network quietly removed the story based on false claims from a >>>>>> congressman but did not apologize or run a correction

    By Paul Farhi
    August 26, 2023 at 6:00 a.m. EDT

    The U.S. Marine Corps went up to the highest levels of Fox News last >>>>>> month to challenge a story that falsely claimed a fallen Marine�s >>>>>> family had to cover the cost of transporting her remains, emails
    obtained by The Washington Post show.

    Fox quietly amended the digital story and then removed it from its >>>>>> website following more complaints from the Marines but still has not >>>>>> apologized or corrected the erroneous report, which had been based >>>>>> on a false claim quickly retracted by a congressman.

    The Marines� communications with Fox were first reported by
    Military.com, which obtained the emails this week under a Freedom of >>>>>> Information Act request.

    The July 25 FoxNews.com story relied on an account from freshman
    Rep. Cory Mills (R-Fla.), who stated that the family of Sgt. Nicole >>>>>> L. Gee had shouldered â€sa heavy financial burdenâ€t of $60,000 to >>>>>> retrieve her body from Afghanistan. Gee, 23, was one of 13 U.S.
    service members killed in a suicide bombing at the Kabul airport in >>>>>> the frantic final days of the U.S. withdrawal.

    The story�s reporter, Michael Lee, quoted Mills calling the
    familyâ€?s supposed expenditures an â€segregious injustice.â€t >>>>>> Neither Pentagon officials nor Geeâ€?s family were quoted in the >>>>>> original story.

    Marine Corps officials say the family did not face any financial
    burdens to have Gee�s body shipped to Arlington National Cemetery. >>>>>> They disputed the story in a series of emails to Fox executives � >>>>>> including Fox News president and executive editor Jay Wallace and
    editor in chief Porter Berry � shortly after the story was
    published.

    â€sThe allegations originally published turned out to be false, >>>>>> which I suspect Mr. Lee knew in the first place, and was the reason >>>>>> he did not seek comment from the Marine Corps,â€t wrote Marine Corps >>>>>> spokesman Maj. James Stenger in an email to the Fox executives.

    Two days after his original comments to Fox, Mills walked back his >>>>>> claims in a statement in which he seemed to blame the Pentagon and >>>>>> the Gee family for being â€sin their time of grief, confusedâ€t >>>>>> about the costs associated with the transportation of Sgt. Geeâ€?s >>>>>> remains. He said the Department of Defense â€swas able to provide >>>>>> clarificationâ€t about the matter.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/media/2023/08/26/fox-news-retracts-mar >>>>>> ine-story-nicole-gee/

    Mills, a Republiscum/QAnon lying shitbag, slandered the Marine
    Corps. Fucks News, nothing but a Republiscum/QAnon propaganda organ, >>>>>> eagerly ran with the story.  Then Fucks News, when shown their
    story was lies, just quietly took it down without apologizing or
    issuing a retraction.

    Republiscums/QAnon always lie.  Besides spewing racist hate speech, >>>>>> lying is all they do.

    In all liklihood it is Rudy and the Washington Post who is lying.

    No. And you know it, too. It happened exactly as described in the
    WaPo (the co-Gold Standard).

    It's so easy to catch Rudy and his "sources" misrepresenting
    circumstances and facts.

    No misrepresentation.


    PENTAGON Published July 25, 2023 1:59pm EDT
    Family forced to pay to ship body of Marine killed after Pentagon policy >>> change: 'Egregious injustice' Nonprofit stepped in to pay $60,000 to
    move Sgt. Nicole Gee's remains to Arlington National Cemetery

    This is false, and Fucks News indirectly admitted it.

    "indirectly admitted it."

    Yes. They admitted it by sneakily taking down the lie story in the middle of the night.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Governor Swill@21:1/5 to FMF on Sat Aug 26 18:26:09 2023
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    XPost: alt.journalism.criticism, talk.politics.guns

    On Sat, 26 Aug 2023 20:59:25 -0000 (UTC), FMF <semper-fi@usmc.mil> wrote:


    It's so easy to catch Rudy and his "sources" misrepresenting
    circumstances and facts.

    So you're saying Faux *and* WAPO got it wrong?

    Swill
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  • From Greer@21:1/5 to Lou Bricano on Sun Aug 27 01:26:40 2023
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    XPost: alt.journalism.criticism, talk.politics.guns

    Lou Bricano <lb@cap.con> wrote in news:HnuGM.122745$zW7d.29376@fx43.iad:

    On 8/26/2023 1:59 PM, FMF wrote:
    Lou Bricano <lb@cap.con> wrote in
    news:S3oGM.755528$AsA.543762@fx18.iad:

    On 8/26/2023 7:32 AM, David Hartung wrote:
    On 8/26/23 09:22, Lou Bricano wrote:
    "Pentagon protested false Fox News report about fallen Marine,
    emails show"

    The network quietly removed the story based on false claims from a
    congressman but did not apologize or run a correction

    By Paul Farhi
    August 26, 2023 at 6:00 a.m. EDT

    The U.S. Marine Corps went up to the highest levels of Fox News
    last month to challenge a story that falsely claimed a fallen
    Marine’s family had to cover the cost of transporting her
    remains, emails obtained by The Washington Post show.

    Fox quietly amended the digital story and then removed it from its
    website following more complaints from the Marines but still has
    not apologized or corrected the erroneous report, which had been
    based on a false claim quickly retracted by a congressman.

    The Marines’ communications with Fox were first reported by
    Military.com, which obtained the emails this week under a Freedom
    of Information Act request.

    The July 25 FoxNews.com story relied on an account from freshman
    Rep. Cory Mills (R-Fla.), who stated that the family of Sgt.
    Nicole L. Gee had shouldered “a heavy financial
    burden” of $60,000 to retrieve her body from Afghanistan.
    Gee, 23, was one of 13 U.S. service members killed in a suicide
    bombing at the Kabul airport in the frantic final days of the U.S.
    withdrawal.

    The story’s reporter, Michael Lee, quoted Mills calling the
    family’s supposed expenditures an “egregious
    injustice.” Neither Pentagon officials nor Gee’s
    family were quoted in the original story.

    Marine Corps officials say the family did not face any financial
    burdens to have Gee’s body shipped to Arlington National
    Cemetery. They disputed the story in a series of emails to Fox
    executives — including Fox News president and executive
    editor Jay Wallace and editor in chief Porter Berry —
    shortly after the story was published.

    “The allegations originally published turned out to be
    false, which I suspect Mr. Lee knew in the first place, and was
    the reason he did not seek comment from the Marine Corps,”
    wrote Marine Corps spokesman Maj. James Stenger in an email to the
    Fox executives.

    Two days after his original comments to Fox, Mills walked back his
    claims in a statement in which he seemed to blame the Pentagon and
    the Gee family for being “in their time of grief,
    confused” about the costs associated with the transportation
    of Sgt. Gee’s remains. He said the Department of Defense
    “was able to provide clarification” about the matter.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/media/2023/08/26/fox-news-retracts-m
    ar ine-story-nicole-gee/

    Mills, a Republiscum/QAnon lying shitbag, slandered the Marine
    Corps. Fucks News, nothing but a Republiscum/QAnon propaganda
    organ, eagerly ran with the story.  Then Fucks News, when shown
    their story was lies, just quietly took it down without
    apologizing or issuing a retraction.

    Republiscums/QAnon always lie.  Besides spewing racist hate
    speech, lying is all they do.

    In all liklihood it is Rudy and the Washington Post who is lying.

    No. And you know it, too. It happened exactly as described in the
    WaPo (the co-Gold Standard).

    It's so easy to catch Rudy and his "sources" misrepresenting
    circumstances and facts.

    No misrepresentation.

    Yeah there was. The family is responsible for it too.

    "'Truly Very Sorry': Family of Fallen Marine Apologizes After Congressman Claims Pentagon Charged Them for Remains Transfer"


    PENTAGON Published July 25, 2023 1:59pm EDT
    Family forced to pay to ship body of Marine killed after Pentagon
    policy change: 'Egregious injustice' Nonprofit stepped in to pay
    $60,000 to move Sgt. Nicole Gee's remains to Arlington National
    Cemetery

    This is false, and Fucks News indirectly admitted it.

    You and Wapo rubbed shit on it and made it worse trying to make the
    military look bad.

    A Republican congressman from Florida has walked back his claim that the Defense Department "placed a heavy financial burden" on the family of a
    Marine killed in a suicide bombing during the chaotic U.S. military
    withdrawal from Afghanistan.

    Rep. Cory Mills, an Army veteran, told Fox News on Tuesday that after
    meeting with the families of 13 U.S. service members killed on Aug. 26,
    2021, at Hamid Karzai International Airport's Abbey Gate, he learned that
    the family of Marine Sgt. Nicole Gee was stuck with a $60,000 bill from
    the Pentagon to transport her remains to Arlington National Cemetery.

    But Gee's family said they were not billed by the Pentagon at all. Since
    the article was published, Mills issued a statement saying the family was confused in its grief, and Fox News edited its headline and story without noting a correction. On Friday, it appeared the article had been removed entirely.

    "We did not have to pay any bill and never had a bill presented," Christy Shamblin, Gee's mother-in-law, told Military.com on Friday via social
    media.

    Honoring Our Fallen, a nonprofit that supports families of deceased
    service members -- to include help during the transfer of dignified
    remains, paid for Gee's remains to be transported by private flight from California to Arlington National Cemetery.

    Gee, 23, deployed to aid in the evacuation and withdrawal of Afghanistan
    in the late summer of 2021. There, a suicide bomb attack killed a Navy corpsman, a soldier and 11 Marines, including Gee.

    About a week before her death, the Department of Defense released a
    picture of Gee holding a baby in Kabul, the capital of Afghanistan. She
    posted the picture on her Instagram with the caption: "I love my job."

    A day after the Fox story was published, Task & Purpose reached out to Shamblin, the Pentagon and Honoring Our Fallen. All three denied that the family was stuck with a bill or that they had requested the Pentagon pay
    for transportation to Arlington.

    The Pentagon said it had no record of any charges.

    "I reached out to Mills early yesterday to make sure I could clarify and
    set the details straight," Shamblin told Military.com "I am truly very
    sorry, and Congressman Mills has been very supportive and helpful."

    On Thursday, the day Shamblin said she reached out to the congressman,
    Mills released a statement acknowledging the response.

    "I understand the family of Sgt. Nicole Gee was, in their time of grief, confused regarding transportation proceedings," his statement read, in
    part. "I am thankful that Honoring Our Fallen was able to assist the
    family and that the DoD was able to provide clarification on this matter."

    Gee's remains were transported from Afghanistan to the U.S. in August 2021
    by the government, and a memorial was held in her home state of
    California. Gee was then to be interred at Arlington National Cemetery,
    but the process for transporting her remains across the country was
    unclear to the family at the time, according to Shamblin.

    If a family wants a service member's remains transported to another
    resting place, like Arlington, they would pay for that transportation up
    front, according to the DoD. The military would then reimburse the family
    for those expenses.

    Mills addressed the policy in his response, saying that "no fallen servicemember's family should ever have to question whether transportation
    will be paid for or if they will have to pay and be reimbursed at a later date."

    The details of that policy would prove moot, however.

    According to Shamblin, Honoring Our Fallen stepped in before the
    transportation or reimbursement process began. The organization paid for a private flight for Gee's remains.

    "No monies were exchanged or expected to be paid by our organization or
    the family," Laura Herzog, CEO of Honoring Our Fallen, told Task & Purpose
    on Wednesday, adding that the cost of the private flight was paid by a
    veteran who donated the unspecified funds in Gee's honor.

    The Marine Corps stayed consistent with the policy that all costs
    associated with interment be borne by the government, a Pentagon
    spokesperson said this week.

    "At this time, we have no record of any incurred charges or any pending requests for reimbursement associated with the transportation of Sgt.
    Gee's remains to Arlington National Cemetery," the spokesperson said in
    the released statement. "The Marine Corps takes very seriously the
    transfer of remains of our Marines -- they never leave a Marine behind,
    and they care for the families of their fallen Marines."

    Shamblin told Military.com that the Marine Corps "has always been, and I anticipate will always be, very supportive," adding that the service
    reaches out often and is responsive to the family.

    "At the time, I just understood we would be responsible for the cost of
    her transportation to Arlington," she told Military.com. "I now understand there is a reimbursement process for this."

    The original Fox News story spread on social media and was used to
    lambaste the DoD for its apparent callousness and blame the Biden administration for its handling of the tumultuous withdrawal from
    Afghanistan -- and its tragic aftereffects. The story's central claim was repeated by other outlets like the Daily Mail.

    The Fox News story was headlined, "Family forced to pay to ship body of
    Marine killed after Pentagon policy change: 'Egregious injustice,'" before
    it was muted with softer language.

    Before the piece was apparently deleted, the first paragraph of the
    article was changed from saying that Mills was "sounding the alarm" about
    Gee's family being "forced to pay to move the body of their loved one" to
    read that the family secured funding from Honoring Our Fallen and that
    Mills was concerned they had trouble "navigating" the DoD process.

    Shamblin told Military.com she reached out to the Fox News reporter and
    "asked for their help making sure the details were clarified."

    Media relations representatives for Fox News did not respond to
    Military.com's repeated requests for comment asking why the article was
    changed without an editor's note after publication, and why it is
    unavailable online now. As part of journalism best practices, stories that
    are changed or corrected after publication are updated with an editor's
    note explaining the decision.

    "At the time, I was just grateful for Honoring Our Fallen stepping up with
    a donor willing to help," Shamblin said. "I hope in the future the process
    of getting your loved one to Arlington after their hometown is without any upfront costs to the family."

    -- Drew F. Lawrence can be reached at drew.lawrence@military.com. Follow
    him on Twitter @df_lawrence.

    https://www.military.com/daily-news/2023/07/28/congressman-walks-back- claim-pentagon-stuck-gold-star-family-60000-bill.html

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