Navy shipbuilding has had its worst production in 25 years, putting the US behind rival China in production pace.
“I don’t see a fast, easy way to get out of this problem. It’s taken us a
long time to get into it,” Eric Labs, a longtime naval analyst at the Congressional Budget Office, told ABC News, adding that the Navy’s shipbuilding was now in “a terrible state.”
The comments come as last-minute design changes, cost overruns, and an inability to recruit and retain employees to build ships has slowed production at the same time the US faces expanding global threats at sea.
Navy shipbuilding has had its worst production in 25 years, putting the US behind rival China in production pace.
On Tue, 13 Aug 2024 19:21:56 -0700, Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote:
P. Coonan wrote:
Navy shipbuilding has had its worst production in 25 years, putting the US >>> behind rival China in production pace.
So fucking what. Our Navy size should be what our country needs,
not keeping up with Jones.
We've got the Gerald Ford, they've got the Graf Spee.
I'm not worried.
On Wed, 14 Aug 2024 22:38:15 -0700, J Carlson <j_carlson@gmx.com> wrote:
On 8/14/2024 10:14 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
On Tue, 13 Aug 2024 19:21:56 -0700, Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote:
P. Coonan wrote:
Navy shipbuilding has had its worst production in 25 years, putting the US
behind rival China in production pace.
So fucking what. Our Navy size should be what our country needs,
not keeping up with Jones.
We've got the Gerald Ford, they've got the Graf Spee.
I'm not worried.
The type of ships we're lacking are not what we need to counter China.
They have more ships, we have more tonnage. Our technology is newer and more advanced, theirs is based on old Soviet tech. We two things they don't: Centuries of naval experience and success, and allies.
Twenty five year low? Eight years of Bush, four
of #FelonDon... They did nothing? Aren't they
sposeta be big on this stuff?
Twenty five year low? Eight years of Bush, four
of #FelonDon... They did nothing? Aren't they
sposeta be big on this stuff?
Gronk wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
Twenty five year low? Eight years of Bush, four
of #FelonDon... They did nothing? Aren't they
sposeta be big on this stuff?
To be honest, a lot of the delays and cost overruns are due to
constant requirements creep, requirements churn, and design changes.
A project gets started, and months go by as the scope of the project
expands at weekly meetings.
The Navy has settled on Frigates and Destroyers instead of heavier
ships
Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
The Navy has settled on Frigates and Destroyers instead of heavier
ships
Mind you, what passes for a destroyer today would have been called a
cruiser as late as the 1960s... and as for frigates, they've grown so
large, the upcoming German F-127 is supposed to be 160m long and with
10000 tons displacement.
Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote in news:va9tc0$t02p$9@dont-email.me:
Gronk wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
Twenty five year low? Eight years of Bush, four
of #FelonDon... They did nothing? Aren't they
sposeta be big on this stuff?
To be honest, a lot of the delays and cost overruns are due to
constant requirements creep, requirements churn, and design changes.
A project gets started, and months go by as the scope of the project
expands at weekly meetings.
That's absolutely true. A ship can change a lot from the initial
design concepts depending on many factors. Look at what happened with
the littoral ships.
Twenty five year low? Eight years of Bush, four
of #FelonDon... They did nothing? Aren't they
sposeta be big on this stuff?
In article <va98de$qb0b$6@dont-email.me>, invalide@invalid.invalid
says...
Twenty five year low? Eight years of Bush, four
of #FelonDon... They did nothing? Aren't they
sposeta be big on this stuff?
What is the left going to do on "day one" that they can't do now?
On Sat, 31 Aug 2024 02:59:19 -0400, "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> wrote:
On 8/31/24 1:15 AM, Gronk wrote:
Skeeter wrote:
In article <va98de$qb0b$6@dont-email.me>, invalide@invalid.invalid
says...
Twenty five year low? Eight years of Bush, four
of #FelonDon... They did nothing? Aren't they
sposeta be big on this stuff?
What is the left going to do on "day one" that they can't do now?
Why didn't the magats do something day one eight
years ago?
Because politicians, our 'leaders', DON'T DO SHIT
unless it boosts their re-election bids. More money
to the mil - NOT. More money for trannies and
Venezuelan thugs - YES.
Oh, bullshit. The military budget always goes up. Obama was just one Democrat
who took heat from his far left wing for high military spending.
As for "trannies" and "thugs", still more hysterical right wing bullshit.
This playing on people's fears is getting old. Stop pretending you're going to
save them from some horrible social problem and come up the policy that will solve the REAL problems people face every day.
Plato commented on the problems with 'democracy'
thousands of years ago. It CAN go totally bad.
It's systemic, inherent to the paradigm. Not
sure there's much "better", but STILL .....
Oh, fixed the groups for you so it WILL go
to alt.politics.republicans as intended :-)
You're a stupid git. apr was never removed. Here's the list that Gronk got and
replied to.
Newsgroups: sci.military.naval,talk.politics.guns,alt.politics.republicans,Oh.no.this.most.certainly.is.NOT.going.to.alt.politics.republicans,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,talk.politics.misc
As you can see, apr was *already in the list*. What you removed wasn't some mysterious, embedded Usenet command, it was an invented newsgroup that some troll put in way back. I routinely remove Oh.no.this.most.certainly.is.NOT.going. ... groups when I reply.
They also use several similar groups such as Oh.no.this.most.certainly.is.NOT.going.to.alt.politics.democrats or Oh.no.this.most.certainly.is.NOT.going.to.talk.politics.guns
Get a grip on reality, Numbers. You lost it today.
Too bad you're a chicken shit who has me killfiled; you might learn something once in a while instead of continually reinforcing your own ignorance and bigotry.
Oh. My. God.
MUST see this illusionist's magic trick. Turning a man into a dog on stage. <https://www.youtube.com/shorts/AvGVGeN9Mv8> (Video less than 60 seconds)
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#NEVERtrump
Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
The Navy has settled on Frigates and Destroyers instead of heavier
ships
Mind you, what passes for a destroyer today would have been called a
cruiser as late as the 1960s... and as for frigates, they've grown so
large, the upcoming German F-127 is supposed to be 160m long and with
10000 tons displacement.
On 8/26/24 9:14 AM, Juergen Nieveler wrote:
Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
The Navy has settled on Frigates and Destroyers instead of heavier
ships
Mind you, what passes for a destroyer today would have been called a
cruiser as late as the 1960s... and as for frigates, they've grown so
large, the upcoming German F-127 is supposed to be 160m long and with
10000 tons displacement.
Big fat high-value TARGETS
The "hornet's nest" model IS better for this century.
Lots of small, many semi/fully-autonomous, ships carrying
nothing but drones and missiles.
'Leaders' and military like "big" - makes them feel
all manly and such. But it's the WRONG approach given
the emerging technology. We don't build battleships
anymore for GOOD REASONS. This will soon extend to
aircraft carriers and other huge ships.
And if not ... we LOSE.
So, who to elect ... who will have the BALLS and
insight to force the needed changes ?
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