• Daniel Penny is free after NYC subway chokehold verdict. What will he d

    From Leroy N. Soetoro@21:1/5 to All on Mon Dec 16 19:30:31 2024
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    https://gothamist.com/news/daniel-penny-is-free-after-nyc-subway- chokehold-verdict-what-will-he-do-now

    Daniel Penny, who on Monday was found not guilty of criminally negligent homicide in the death of Jordan Neely last year, says he wants to resume a normal life now that the closely watched criminal trial has concluded.

    Through his lawyer and in a television appearance after the verdict, he
    said he plans to go back to school, become an architect and even resume
    riding the New York City subway.

    But like many defendants who are acquitted after high-profile and divisive cases, a sense of normalcy may be hard-won for the 26-year-old former
    Marine. Gothamist spoke to high-profile defendants, their lawyers and
    media experts who agreed that Penny’s case is likely to follow him for
    years, and his public reputation may long overshadow his private life.

    “ I don't want any attention. I don't want the limelight,” Penny told Fox Nation on Wednesday. “I'd like to just go back to normal, though … we’ll
    see.” Penny’s lawyer did not make him available for an interview with Gothamist.

    Neely’s family is also struggling to move forward. Neely’s father, Andre Zachery, has filed a civil lawsuit against Penny. When the verdict was announced, Zachery cried out in court and was escorted from the room.
    “This really, really hurts,” Zachery said a short time later.

    When asked if he felt the impact on the Neely family’s loss in the Fox
    Nation interview, Penny said only, “Of course.”

    Penny was charged with causing Neely’s death by holding him in a chokehold
    for several minutes on an uptown F train on May 1, 2023. Witnesses said
    Neely, a former Michael Jackson impersonator who had schizophrenia,
    started yelling threats after he boarded the train. Penny held Neely in
    the chokehold on the floor of the train for about six minutes, according
    to evidence presented during the proceedings. Neely was pronounced dead
    soon after.

    A video that a passenger took of Penny holding Neely in the chokehold went viral soon after the incident, and prompted strong responses from the
    public — with some seeing Penny as a hero and others seeing him as a
    killer. In the days after Neely’s death, and before Penny was charged with
    a crime, protesters flooded subway platforms in response. Prior to his
    trial, Penny’s supporters donated more than $3 million to a legal defense
    fund on a Christian crowdsourcing website. After the verdict, the amount
    grew by more than $360,000.

    Perhaps no one knows better what it’s like to become a lightning rod for controversy over crime on the New York City subways than Bernie Goetz, who
    in 1984 shot four young people he said were trying to rob him on the
    subway. At the time, the city celebrated Goetz as the “Subway Vigilante”
    in a time when crime was at a high. Others, however, vilified him. He was ultimately acquitted of the shootings but convicted of a gun charge.

    Goetz, now 77, said whether Penny wishes it or not, he has become a proxy
    for people’s feelings about subway safety.

    “This isn't so much about him, this is about the bulls–t going on in New
    York,” Goetz said in a phone interview. “The people on the subways are threatened all the time and should people put up with this?”

    Goetz said he sympathizes with Penny, and their cases bear many
    resemblances. Subway crime rates were high in the 1980s. There was also widespread fear about subway crime when Neely died in 2023, even though officials stressed rates of subway crime were lower than they had been
    before the pandemic. Both Penny and Goetz characterize their actions as defensive — Goetz defending himself and Penny defending others on the
    train. Both were also subject to lengthy public prosecutions.

    Goetz said Penny's desire for normalcy will be difficult to realize for
    the first several years. Goetz sold electronics to factories and said that after his trial he lost many of his business contacts in and around New
    York City because no one wanted to talk to him.

    “ There was a big drop in business. It basically ruined me. The
    prosecutions destroy you financially,” Goetz said.

    The polarized media market these days allows Penny and his lawyers to seek
    out sympathetic outlets to tell his story and drum up support. Penny
    turned to conservative outlets Fox and the New York Post for press after
    the verdict. Goetz said there was no equivalent in the 1980s, and he still blames the New York Times for what he felt was negative coverage.

    Today’s more fragmented media offers Penny niche markets that he can potentially capitalize on, according to UCLA communications professor Tim Groeling.

    “ There are people with very narrow interests that are obsessive about
    things,” Groeling said. “You can sustain narrow and deep interest in a
    subset of the audience much more easily now than you used to, and dramatic crimes have the possibility of sustaining that kind of interest.”

    Groeling points to social media and niche media platforms where chatter
    can persist even years after a case is over. For example, he pointed to a subreddit for brothers Lyle and Erik Menendez, who were convicted of
    killing their parents in 1996, that currently has 42,000 followers.

    Others have been able to profit from their notoriety and these niche
    markets. Kyle Rittenhouse was acquitted of two killings in 2020; he became
    a star for gun advocates and also sells apparel. And Amanda Knox, who was accused of killing her roommate in 2007, has since built a media franchise
    with books, podcasts, films and speaking engagements dedicated to true
    crime stories.

    However, Groeling said the fractured media works the other way.

    “ Mr. Penny is going to have people talking about him for the rest of his life,” he said. “Praising him or criticizing him, the internet doesn't
    forget.”

    Goetz claimed bankruptcy after the criminal trial and told CNN that he
    never “paid a penny” of the $43 million civil judgement. In addition to
    the civil lawsuit from Neely’s father, Penny’s lawyers say their client is exploring his own civil lawsuit — a malicious prosecution claim against
    the prosecutors and the medical examiners. But it has yet to be filed.

    Without detailing costs, Penny’s lawyers said his legal fund dwindled
    during the criminal trial. Others accused of high-profile crimes struggled
    to pay the bills after their trial. Casey Anthony, who was acquitted of
    killing her 2-year-old daughter in 2008, declared bankruptcy in 2013,
    according to the Associated Press, and lived with her defense investigator
    and his family for several years following her trial, according to
    Buzzfeed News.

    George Zimmerman, who was tried for killing 17-year-old Trayvon Martin in
    2012, struggled to find employment following his acquittal, according to
    his lawyer Mark O’Mara, who said even he might think twice before hiring someone with that much notoriety.

    “I've got 20 people who work for me here, I would have to be a little bit cautious or careful having someone like Mr. Penny and Mr. Zimmerman or
    Casey Anthony here because the notoriety follows them,” O’Mara said.

    O’Mara said there were more than 2,500 threats of violence against
    Zimmerman during his trial.

    “ You don't know if it's somebody in Kansas with a borrowed laptop or down
    the street with a 9 mm,” he said, referring to a handgun. “You have to be
    aware that there are people who are very upset that Mr. Penny ended up
    taking the life of somebody.” New York City’s medical examiner said Neely
    died from Penny’s chokehold. Penny’s lawyers disputed that conclusion.

    Penny told Fox Nation that he still rides the subway, but added that he
    has to look over his shoulder and is concerned for his family’s safety. According to Penny’s lawyer, Steven Raiser, Penny paid for private
    security during the trial and is still coping with trauma from the
    incident and criminal case.

    “He has, understandably, emotional scars from what occurred and the
    attacks on him that persists, people are still in the media attacking
    him,” Raiser said.

    Raiser said that people have continued to donate to Penny’s legal fund,
    which has grown by almost $400,000 since the verdict. Raiser declined to
    say how much remained after the cost of the criminal trial.


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  • From a425couple@21:1/5 to Leroy N. Soetoro on Tue Dec 17 09:15:07 2024
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    On 12/16/24 11:30, Leroy N. Soetoro wrote:
    https://gothamist.com/news/daniel-penny-is-free-after-nyc-subway- chokehold-verdict-what-will-he-do-now

    Daniel Penny, who on Monday was found not guilty of criminally negligent homicide in the death of Jordan Neely last year, says he wants to resume a normal life now that the closely watched criminal trial has concluded.

    Through his lawyer and in a television appearance after the verdict, he
    said he plans to go back to school, become an architect and even resume riding the New York City subway.

    But like many defendants who are acquitted after high-profile and divisive cases, a sense of normalcy may be hard-won for the 26-year-old former
    Marine. Gothamist spoke to high-profile defendants, their lawyers and
    media experts who agreed that Penny’s case is likely to follow him for years, and his public reputation may long overshadow his private life.

    “ I don't want any attention. I don't want the limelight,” Penny told Fox Nation on Wednesday. “I'd like to just go back to normal, though … we’ll
    see.” Penny’s lawyer did not make him available for an interview with Gothamist.

    He has good goals and wants. But I doubt they are possible.
    I suggest h move far away from Blue New York.


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