• Re: What Made My Day Today? :-)

    From Physfitfreak@21:1/5 to All on Sat Aug 26 10:28:33 2023
    This is fresh from Iran's militia forces. Regular military still cannot
    carry this out (they just dump them en masse in a vertical descent with parachutes).

    https://streamable.com/le3qlr

    What is its use? On whose ass will they land, dick first, to achieve any
    goal? Where and in what situation, the silent presence of one or a few
    makes a big difference for Iran? And how would they come back?



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  • From Physfitfreak@21:1/5 to Clutterfreak on Sat Aug 26 14:25:30 2023
    On 7/27/2022 10:18 PM, Clutterfreak wrote:
    On 7/9/2022 4:51 PM, Clutterfreak wrote:


    Sweet 1957 :)

    People in the world back then - very oddly including the CH! - knew
    how to enjoy life.

    Nowadays everybody in the world other than the CH know how to enjoy
    life. All Cro-Magnons and most Cro-Magnoids have totally forgotten it.
    Chickens running around with heads cut off, doing things not knowing
    why. Noticing that made my day today :)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1LRYJa9U04

    En el mar la vida es más sabrosa
    En el mar te quiero mucho más
    Con el sol, la luna y las estrellas
    En el mar todo es felicidad
    Te verás bañada por las olas
    Y serás sirena de mi amor
    Hallarás amor entre sus aguas
    Y tendrás del mar su inspiración
    Que una concha nos sirva de abrigo
    Con música de brisa y adornos de coral
    Y al vaivén de las olas tranquilas
    Los peces de colores nos lleven a pasear
    En el mar la vida es más sabrosa
    En el mar te quiero mucho más
    Con el sol, la luna y las estrellas
    En el mar todo es felicidad
    Que una concha nos sirva de abrigo
    Con música de brisa y adornos de coral
    Y al vaivén de las olas tranquilas
    Los peces de colores nos lleven a pasear
    En el mar la vida es más sabrosa
    En el mar te quiero mucho más
    Con el sol, la luna y las estrellas
    En el mar todo es felicidad
    En el mar todo es felicidad
    En el mar todo es felicidad



    Everything about this song is great. Listen to piano how it depicts
    salty water and sea and its little creatures. The bass, the poem, the
    drums, the dance, the wind instruments, everything. This is some
    package. MH from begin to end.

    The CH for a few years just imitated it slightly. That's as far as they
    could do, or go, or understand. I remember some Bing Crosby thick and
    heavy records that my father and Mom listened to (and danced with on occasions) when I was tiny. They often had Latino themes about them. I
    even remember a couple of them still and don't know how to find them
    unless I spend a lot of time on youtube listening to tens and tens of
    old songs. I don't have such time and am not interested in it either.
    They were songs of my parents' generation, not even those of my elder brothers'.

    But downright value is value. Nobody can touch it, and this song sure
    gives a taste of it :) My day was made today earlier at work, but this
    song, now that I listened to it again, made my hour before retiring to
    bed :) Cubans were great at music.








    Hahhahah :-) Every time I listen to this song I find it just great. It's
    the simplest form of a music that's saying all that's packed in the
    poem. And it does it in just the special way that Latino's have. Exactly
    how they look at it and think about it.

    I have worked with them and know them. All that confidence! You may be
    the dorks that you are and ask, "confidence in what?" Confidence in
    their ability to manage life perfectly well. Yes. Confidence in that! No
    matter what you motherfuckers do to them. No matter what happens,
    period. They are confident, and are certain that they will enjoy their
    lives all the way to the last breath.

    The _first_ chance their music telling all that got to reach Iran (late
    1940s), it was an absolute winner. People understood them. My parents
    who were from a totally different background, music-wise as well as
    dance-wise, didn't need to get used to them first. They immediately
    recognized such jewels.

    Musically, the closest that Iranian music can come to theirs is the
    Southern "Bandari" music, because it was that music which after Islam
    began to spread was taken to Spain and from there a few centuries later
    to South America. My parents never listened to Southern Iranian music intentionally on their own. They were both from northern Iran and mostly listened to those types. Nevertheless, on just one listening, they'd
    recognize the gist of it. They had many records with Latino music
    enhanced themes.

    And dance-wise also, both my parents had their preferred dances quite
    different from Latino. Latino dance is very sexual! For both men and
    women. But Iranian dance is totally a reflection of Iranians themselves.
    The woman moves gracefully as if she is just sliding on the floor (takes
    months of practice to achieve) especially when she has long enough
    skirts to reach the ground. The head must not go up and down! The man
    jumps this way and that way around her doing the Lezgi foot dance. If he
    is very good at it, his head also will not move up and down through all
    that commotion. The dance is ancient and almost standard everywhere in
    Iran, Caucasia, Turkey, Afghanestan, etc, everywhere throughout Greater
    Iran.

    That type of dance, my parents and rest of family did in just about all
    the weddings we attended. But for more privately held parties, or just
    doing it together for fun at home, they did Latino style :-))) Chacha,
    Samba, Salsa, ..Those moves had a lot of you know what about them. You
    just had to either do it privately or inside close friends circles at most.

    I remember for a good while, perhaps a whole Summer, my father took my
    mother to dance school to both learn Latino dances together :) The
    school belonged to an Armenian family. I can not even count the number
    of times I saw my mother practicing them in front of the large glass on
    the front of the book-case we had, in which she could see a faint
    reflection of hers. For me all that were just silly activity, that I
    watched uninterested; I was just a little kid. My brothers understood it
    better and would get excited and dhappy to see them dance. Latino style
    or Lezgi, both.

    I don't think you dorks know anything about Lezgi moves. You may have
    seen similar moves in Russian dancers, especially in southern Russia
    where Iranians have always had influence. As I said, they are totally
    different for woman and for men. Two completely different form based on
    how women are seen in Iran and how men are seen in Iran :)

    Let me give an example of the man's side of Lezgi dance:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZnuFS7NVJY

    To see how it is for women:

    https://www.youtube.com/shorts/pM8K-JkKXKM

    As you see, the woman is appearing to be just sliding gracefully on the
    floor, a feat of skill to show off and be justly proud of. It is very
    difficult to learn. And the man is doing actually very precise moves
    with his feet. All standard and learnted but his other movements are
    usually his own depending on how he feels at the moment. In Lezgi dance
    you can see what a woman is looked upon in Iran, and how a man is looked
    upon :)



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  • From Physfitfreak@21:1/5 to Physfitfreak on Sat Aug 26 19:50:10 2023
    On 8/26/2023 2:25 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:
    On 7/27/2022 10:18 PM, Clutterfreak wrote:
    On 7/9/2022 4:51 PM, Clutterfreak wrote:


    Sweet 1957 :)

    People in the world back then - very oddly including the CH! - knew
    how to enjoy life.

    Nowadays everybody in the world other than the CH know how to enjoy
    life. All Cro-Magnons and most Cro-Magnoids have totally forgotten
    it. Chickens running around with heads cut off, doing things not
    knowing why. Noticing that made my day today :)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1LRYJa9U04

    En el mar la vida es más sabrosa
    En el mar te quiero mucho más
    Con el sol, la luna y las estrellas
    En el mar todo es felicidad
    Te verás bañada por las olas
    Y serás sirena de mi amor
    Hallarás amor entre sus aguas
    Y tendrás del mar su inspiración
    Que una concha nos sirva de abrigo
    Con música de brisa y adornos de coral
    Y al vaivén de las olas tranquilas
    Los peces de colores nos lleven a pasear
    En el mar la vida es más sabrosa
    En el mar te quiero mucho más
    Con el sol, la luna y las estrellas
    En el mar todo es felicidad
    Que una concha nos sirva de abrigo
    Con música de brisa y adornos de coral
    Y al vaivén de las olas tranquilas
    Los peces de colores nos lleven a pasear
    En el mar la vida es más sabrosa
    En el mar te quiero mucho más
    Con el sol, la luna y las estrellas
    En el mar todo es felicidad
    En el mar todo es felicidad
    En el mar todo es felicidad



    Everything about this song is great. Listen to piano how it depicts
    salty water and sea and its little creatures. The bass, the poem, the
    drums, the dance, the wind instruments, everything. This is some
    package. MH from begin to end.

    The CH for a few years just imitated it slightly. That's as far as
    they could do, or go, or understand. I remember some Bing Crosby thick
    and heavy records that my father and Mom listened to (and danced with
    on occasions) when I was tiny. They often had Latino themes about
    them. I even remember a couple of them still and don't know how to
    find them unless I spend a lot of time on youtube listening to tens
    and tens of old songs. I don't have such time and am not interested in
    it either. They were songs of my parents' generation, not even those
    of my elder brothers'.

    But downright value is value. Nobody can touch it, and this song sure
    gives a taste of it :) My day was made today earlier at work, but this
    song, now that I listened to it again, made my hour before retiring to
    bed :) Cubans were great at music.








    Hahhahah :-) Every time I listen to this song I find it just great. It's
    the simplest form of a music that's saying all that's packed in the
    poem. And it does it in just the special way that Latino's have. Exactly
    how they look at it and think about it.

    I have worked with them and know them. All that confidence! You may be
    the dorks that you are and ask, "confidence in what?" Confidence in
    their ability to manage life perfectly well. Yes. Confidence in that! No matter what you motherfuckers do to them. No matter what happens,
    period. They are confident, and are certain that they will enjoy their
    lives all the way to the last breath.

    The _first_ chance their music telling all that got to reach Iran (late 1940s), it was an absolute winner. People understood them. My parents
    who were from a totally different background, music-wise as well as dance-wise, didn't need to get used to them first. They immediately recognized such jewels.

    Musically, the closest that Iranian music can come to theirs is the
    Southern "Bandari" music, because it was that music which after Islam
    began to spread was taken to Spain and from there a few centuries later
    to South America. My parents never listened to Southern Iranian music intentionally on their own. They were both from northern Iran and mostly listened to those types. Nevertheless, on just one listening, they'd recognize the gist of it. They had many records with Latino music
    enhanced themes.

    And dance-wise also, both my parents had their preferred dances quite different from Latino. Latino dance is very sexual! For both men and
    women. But Iranian dance is totally a reflection of Iranians themselves.
    The woman moves gracefully as if she is just sliding on the floor (takes months of practice to achieve) especially when she has long enough
    skirts to reach the ground. The head must not go up and down! The man
    jumps this way and that way around her doing the Lezgi foot dance. If he
    is very good at it, his head also will not move up and down through all
    that commotion. The dance is ancient and almost standard everywhere in
    Iran, Caucasia, Turkey, Afghanestan, etc, everywhere throughout Greater
    Iran.

    That type of dance, my parents and rest of family did in just about all
    the weddings we attended. But for more privately held parties, or just
    doing it together for fun at home, they did Latino style :-))) Chacha,
    Samba, Salsa, ..Those moves had a lot of you know what about them. You
    just had to either do it privately or inside close friends circles at most.

    I remember for a good while, perhaps a whole Summer, my father took my
    mother to dance school to both learn Latino dances together :) The
    school belonged to an Armenian family. I can not even count the number
    of times I saw my mother practicing them in front of the large glass on
    the front of the book-case we had, in which she could see a faint
    reflection of hers. For me all that were just silly activity, that I
    watched uninterested; I was just a little kid. My brothers understood it better and would get excited and dhappy to see them dance. Latino style
    or Lezgi, both.

    I don't think you dorks know anything about Lezgi moves. You may have
    seen similar moves in Russian dancers, especially in southern Russia
    where Iranians have always had influence. As I said, they are totally different for woman and for men. Two completely different form based on
    how women are seen in Iran and how men are seen in Iran :)

    Let me give an example of the man's side of Lezgi dance:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZnuFS7NVJY

    To see how it is for women:

    https://www.youtube.com/shorts/pM8K-JkKXKM

    As you see, the woman is appearing to be just sliding gracefully on the floor, a feat of skill to show off and be justly proud of. It is very difficult to learn. And the man is doing actually very precise moves
    with his feet. All standard and learnted but his other movements are
    usually his own depending on how he feels at the moment. In Lezgi dance
    you can see what a woman is looked upon in Iran, and how a man is looked
    upon :)





    This one is men's Lezgi at the professional level. Note that they have
    to be at least two dancers so each could get a chance to catch his
    breath while the other(s) perform. It is extremely demanding.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TqsKjDTAtaQ



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  • From Physfitfreak@21:1/5 to Physfitfreak on Sat Aug 26 21:07:21 2023
    On 8/26/2023 7:50 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:
    On 8/26/2023 2:25 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:
    On 7/27/2022 10:18 PM, Clutterfreak wrote:
    On 7/9/2022 4:51 PM, Clutterfreak wrote:


    Sweet 1957 :)

    People in the world back then - very oddly including the CH! - knew
    how to enjoy life.

    Nowadays everybody in the world other than the CH know how to enjoy
    life. All Cro-Magnons and most Cro-Magnoids have totally forgotten
    it. Chickens running around with heads cut off, doing things not
    knowing why. Noticing that made my day today :)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1LRYJa9U04

    En el mar la vida es más sabrosa
    En el mar te quiero mucho más
    Con el sol, la luna y las estrellas
    En el mar todo es felicidad
    Te verás bañada por las olas
    Y serás sirena de mi amor
    Hallarás amor entre sus aguas
    Y tendrás del mar su inspiración
    Que una concha nos sirva de abrigo
    Con música de brisa y adornos de coral
    Y al vaivén de las olas tranquilas
    Los peces de colores nos lleven a pasear
    En el mar la vida es más sabrosa
    En el mar te quiero mucho más
    Con el sol, la luna y las estrellas
    En el mar todo es felicidad
    Que una concha nos sirva de abrigo
    Con música de brisa y adornos de coral
    Y al vaivén de las olas tranquilas
    Los peces de colores nos lleven a pasear
    En el mar la vida es más sabrosa
    En el mar te quiero mucho más
    Con el sol, la luna y las estrellas
    En el mar todo es felicidad
    En el mar todo es felicidad
    En el mar todo es felicidad



    Everything about this song is great. Listen to piano how it depicts
    salty water and sea and its little creatures. The bass, the poem, the
    drums, the dance, the wind instruments, everything. This is some
    package. MH from begin to end.

    The CH for a few years just imitated it slightly. That's as far as
    they could do, or go, or understand. I remember some Bing Crosby
    thick and heavy records that my father and Mom listened to (and
    danced with on occasions) when I was tiny. They often had Latino
    themes about them. I even remember a couple of them still and don't
    know how to find them unless I spend a lot of time on youtube
    listening to tens and tens of old songs. I don't have such time and
    am not interested in it either. They were songs of my parents'
    generation, not even those of my elder brothers'.

    But downright value is value. Nobody can touch it, and this song sure
    gives a taste of it :) My day was made today earlier at work, but
    this song, now that I listened to it again, made my hour before
    retiring to bed :) Cubans were great at music.








    Hahhahah :-) Every time I listen to this song I find it just great.
    It's the simplest form of a music that's saying all that's packed in
    the poem. And it does it in just the special way that Latino's have.
    Exactly how they look at it and think about it.

    I have worked with them and know them. All that confidence! You may be
    the dorks that you are and ask, "confidence in what?" Confidence in
    their ability to manage life perfectly well. Yes. Confidence in that!
    No matter what you motherfuckers do to them. No matter what happens,
    period. They are confident, and are certain that they will enjoy their
    lives all the way to the last breath.

    The _first_ chance their music telling all that got to reach Iran
    (late 1940s), it was an absolute winner. People understood them. My
    parents who were from a totally different background, music-wise as
    well as dance-wise, didn't need to get used to them first. They
    immediately recognized such jewels.

    Musically, the closest that Iranian music can come to theirs is the
    Southern "Bandari" music, because it was that music which after Islam
    began to spread was taken to Spain and from there a few centuries
    later to South America. My parents never listened to Southern Iranian
    music intentionally on their own. They were both from northern Iran
    and mostly listened to those types. Nevertheless, on just one
    listening, they'd recognize the gist of it. They had many records with
    Latino music enhanced themes.

    And dance-wise also, both my parents had their preferred dances quite
    different from Latino. Latino dance is very sexual! For both men and
    women. But Iranian dance is totally a reflection of Iranians
    themselves. The woman moves gracefully as if she is just sliding on
    the floor (takes months of practice to achieve) especially when she
    has long enough skirts to reach the ground. The head must not go up
    and down! The man jumps this way and that way around her doing the
    Lezgi foot dance. If he is very good at it, his head also will not
    move up and down through all that commotion. The dance is ancient and
    almost standard everywhere in Iran, Caucasia, Turkey, Afghanestan,
    etc, everywhere throughout Greater Iran.

    That type of dance, my parents and rest of family did in just about
    all the weddings we attended. But for more privately held parties, or
    just doing it together for fun at home, they did Latino style :-)))
    Chacha, Samba, Salsa, ..Those moves had a lot of you know what about
    them. You just had to either do it privately or inside close friends
    circles at most.

    I remember for a good while, perhaps a whole Summer, my father took my
    mother to dance school to both learn Latino dances together :) The
    school belonged to an Armenian family. I can not even count the number
    of times I saw my mother practicing them in front of the large glass
    on the front of the book-case we had, in which she could see a faint
    reflection of hers. For me all that were just silly activity, that I
    watched uninterested; I was just a little kid. My brothers understood
    it better and would get excited and dhappy to see them dance. Latino
    style or Lezgi, both.

    I don't think you dorks know anything about Lezgi moves. You may have
    seen similar moves in Russian dancers, especially in southern Russia
    where Iranians have always had influence. As I said, they are totally
    different for woman and for men. Two completely different form based
    on how women are seen in Iran and how men are seen in Iran :)

    Let me give an example of the man's side of Lezgi dance:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZnuFS7NVJY

    To see how it is for women:

    https://www.youtube.com/shorts/pM8K-JkKXKM

    As you see, the woman is appearing to be just sliding gracefully on
    the floor, a feat of skill to show off and be justly proud of. It is
    very difficult to learn. And the man is doing actually very precise
    moves with his feet. All standard and learnted but his other movements
    are usually his own depending on how he feels at the moment. In Lezgi
    dance you can see what a woman is looked upon in Iran, and how a man
    is looked upon :)





    This one is men's Lezgi at the professional level. Note that they have
    to be at least two dancers so each could get a chance to catch his
    breath while the other(s) perform. It is extremely demanding.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TqsKjDTAtaQ





    And this is the formal Lezgi, not the party type. The dresses are fully Iranian, not the western type that Iranians began to slowly change into
    in the 1800s. Both men and women dresses are purely Iranian:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SCfTCB5wTI

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  • From Physfitfreak@21:1/5 to Physfitfreak on Sun Aug 27 00:10:43 2023
    On 8/26/2023 9:07 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:
    On 8/26/2023 7:50 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:
    On 8/26/2023 2:25 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:
    On 7/27/2022 10:18 PM, Clutterfreak wrote:
    On 7/9/2022 4:51 PM, Clutterfreak wrote:


    Sweet 1957 :)

    People in the world back then - very oddly including the CH! - knew
    how to enjoy life.

    Nowadays everybody in the world other than the CH know how to enjoy
    life. All Cro-Magnons and most Cro-Magnoids have totally forgotten
    it. Chickens running around with heads cut off, doing things not
    knowing why. Noticing that made my day today :)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1LRYJa9U04

    En el mar la vida es más sabrosa
    En el mar te quiero mucho más
    Con el sol, la luna y las estrellas
    En el mar todo es felicidad
    Te verás bañada por las olas
    Y serás sirena de mi amor
    Hallarás amor entre sus aguas
    Y tendrás del mar su inspiración
    Que una concha nos sirva de abrigo
    Con música de brisa y adornos de coral
    Y al vaivén de las olas tranquilas
    Los peces de colores nos lleven a pasear
    En el mar la vida es más sabrosa
    En el mar te quiero mucho más
    Con el sol, la luna y las estrellas
    En el mar todo es felicidad
    Que una concha nos sirva de abrigo
    Con música de brisa y adornos de coral
    Y al vaivén de las olas tranquilas
    Los peces de colores nos lleven a pasear
    En el mar la vida es más sabrosa
    En el mar te quiero mucho más
    Con el sol, la luna y las estrellas
    En el mar todo es felicidad
    En el mar todo es felicidad
    En el mar todo es felicidad



    Everything about this song is great. Listen to piano how it depicts
    salty water and sea and its little creatures. The bass, the poem,
    the drums, the dance, the wind instruments, everything. This is some
    package. MH from begin to end.

    The CH for a few years just imitated it slightly. That's as far as
    they could do, or go, or understand. I remember some Bing Crosby
    thick and heavy records that my father and Mom listened to (and
    danced with on occasions) when I was tiny. They often had Latino
    themes about them. I even remember a couple of them still and don't
    know how to find them unless I spend a lot of time on youtube
    listening to tens and tens of old songs. I don't have such time and
    am not interested in it either. They were songs of my parents'
    generation, not even those of my elder brothers'.

    But downright value is value. Nobody can touch it, and this song
    sure gives a taste of it :) My day was made today earlier at work,
    but this song, now that I listened to it again, made my hour before
    retiring to bed :) Cubans were great at music.








    Hahhahah :-) Every time I listen to this song I find it just great.
    It's the simplest form of a music that's saying all that's packed in
    the poem. And it does it in just the special way that Latino's have.
    Exactly how they look at it and think about it.

    I have worked with them and know them. All that confidence! You may
    be the dorks that you are and ask, "confidence in what?" Confidence
    in their ability to manage life perfectly well. Yes. Confidence in
    that! No matter what you motherfuckers do to them. No matter what
    happens, period. They are confident, and are certain that they will
    enjoy their lives all the way to the last breath.

    The _first_ chance their music telling all that got to reach Iran
    (late 1940s), it was an absolute winner. People understood them. My
    parents who were from a totally different background, music-wise as
    well as dance-wise, didn't need to get used to them first. They
    immediately recognized such jewels.

    Musically, the closest that Iranian music can come to theirs is the
    Southern "Bandari" music, because it was that music which after Islam
    began to spread was taken to Spain and from there a few centuries
    later to South America. My parents never listened to Southern Iranian
    music intentionally on their own. They were both from northern Iran
    and mostly listened to those types. Nevertheless, on just one
    listening, they'd recognize the gist of it. They had many records
    with Latino music enhanced themes.

    And dance-wise also, both my parents had their preferred dances quite
    different from Latino. Latino dance is very sexual! For both men and
    women. But Iranian dance is totally a reflection of Iranians
    themselves. The woman moves gracefully as if she is just sliding on
    the floor (takes months of practice to achieve) especially when she
    has long enough skirts to reach the ground. The head must not go up
    and down! The man jumps this way and that way around her doing the
    Lezgi foot dance. If he is very good at it, his head also will not
    move up and down through all that commotion. The dance is ancient and
    almost standard everywhere in Iran, Caucasia, Turkey, Afghanestan,
    etc, everywhere throughout Greater Iran.

    That type of dance, my parents and rest of family did in just about
    all the weddings we attended. But for more privately held parties, or
    just doing it together for fun at home, they did Latino style :-)))
    Chacha, Samba, Salsa, ..Those moves had a lot of you know what about
    them. You just had to either do it privately or inside close friends
    circles at most.

    I remember for a good while, perhaps a whole Summer, my father took
    my mother to dance school to both learn Latino dances together :) The
    school belonged to an Armenian family. I can not even count the
    number of times I saw my mother practicing them in front of the large
    glass on the front of the book-case we had, in which she could see a
    faint reflection of hers. For me all that were just silly activity,
    that I watched uninterested; I was just a little kid. My brothers
    understood it better and would get excited and dhappy to see them
    dance. Latino style or Lezgi, both.

    I don't think you dorks know anything about Lezgi moves. You may have
    seen similar moves in Russian dancers, especially in southern Russia
    where Iranians have always had influence. As I said, they are totally
    different for woman and for men. Two completely different form based
    on how women are seen in Iran and how men are seen in Iran :)

    Let me give an example of the man's side of Lezgi dance:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZnuFS7NVJY

    To see how it is for women:

    https://www.youtube.com/shorts/pM8K-JkKXKM

    As you see, the woman is appearing to be just sliding gracefully on
    the floor, a feat of skill to show off and be justly proud of. It is
    very difficult to learn. And the man is doing actually very precise
    moves with his feet. All standard and learnted but his other
    movements are usually his own depending on how he feels at the
    moment. In Lezgi dance you can see what a woman is looked upon in
    Iran, and how a man is looked upon :)





    This one is men's Lezgi at the professional level. Note that they have
    to be at least two dancers so each could get a chance to catch his
    breath while the other(s) perform. It is extremely demanding.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TqsKjDTAtaQ





    And this is the formal Lezgi, not the party type. The dresses are fully Iranian, not the western type that Iranians began to slowly change into
    in the 1800s. Both men and women dresses are purely Iranian:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SCfTCB5wTI




    This one is pure gas :-)))

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Or-_uvg-X2Y



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  • From Physfitfreak@21:1/5 to Physfitfreak on Sun Aug 27 10:40:10 2023
    On 8/26/2023 10:28 AM, Physfitfreak wrote:

    This is fresh from Iran's militia forces. Regular military still cannot
    carry this out (they just dump them en masse in a vertical descent with parachutes).

    https://streamable.com/le3qlr

    What is its use? On whose ass will they land, dick first, to achieve any goal? Where and in what situation, the silent presence of one or a few
    makes a big difference for Iran? And how would they come back?





    I had posted the above because watching it had made my day of course :)
    One of my cousins in the 1960s was a talented parachuter and told us
    many exciting stories in several occasions. He stopped doing it after
    his military service ended.

    Several of Iranians in Dallas area almost as soon as they arrived from
    Iran in late 1970s joined parachuting clubs :) Unlike in Iran, you
    didn't have to have ties to a military organization to have that access,
    so they were fast pursuing that part of their dreams, along of course
    other stuff not available to ordinary citizens in Iran, like owning
    guns, fucking literally any girl around them, going to topless bars,
    doing their grocery shopping (and more!) at 3 am, getting their car the
    same day they decided to have a car, and getting their driving licenses
    in that same day... A bunch of blessings that were available to
    Americans without the latter seeming to appreciate them.

    So one of those blessings was parachuting :) I didn't join. But at least
    two of my friends did. I was into swimming in those days, so I joined
    the swimming club that used a nearby high-school's all-year-round state
    of the art swimming pools (two of them). Unbelievably cheap, and always available. Often with Texas girls of top model-type bodies mixed in!
    Mostly students of that same high school. In Tehran, that would've been
    a dream to have. In here, 1978 Dallas, as easily as paying I don't know
    ... $7 ? 7 dollars a month. It was great :)

    But!... Only as long as things hadn't changed for the worse in Iran.
    Iranians back then were quite welcome in Texas. Shah was helping with
    several research works done in Texas universities. Texans, in turn, at
    the semester registration times treated Iranian students as residents of
    Texas. I only saw just one semester of it, but you should've been there
    to see what the difference was between tuition for a foreign student and
    a Texas resident. So when shit hit the fan, Governor Clemens declared
    Iranian students as "foreign students" and we began paying foreign
    student tuition and fees.

    Then soon my belongings in my locker at that high school swimming pool
    facility began to one by one disappear :) Hehe :-) Those kids.. Some of
    them knew I was Iranian.

    Therefore, I stopped paying the membership fees and quit going there.
    Dallas didn't have mountains, so I reverted to tennis, which the
    university had quite a few courts for and plenty of people to play with,
    again available all the time even after dark with the fees automatically
    paid as part of tuition, and then added walking to it on weekends.
    Pilates of course was done every day in my house, using same book I use
    today :) (that son of a bitch translator... I curse his bones every
    fucking day)













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  • From Physfitfreak@21:1/5 to All on Thu Aug 31 20:13:42 2023
    This shit made my day, this evening. Hmm, an entire network of agents
    have been arrested in Iran and this Israeli source says it may all be
    just lies! Hehe :)

    https://www.timesofisrael.com/iran-claims-to-foil-major-mossad-attempt-to-insert-defective-parts-into-its-missiles/

    The Iranian sources, pro and con both, all are talking about it giving
    various detail, and there's not even one report shown in Google News if
    you don't know about it apriori. What a mess.

    This is one of the Iranian sources. I had to download it from Telegram
    and upload it again to share it.

    https://streamable.com/d6f6dq

    One of the arrested agents had received instructions to film herself
    kill her own addicted brother while wearing "revealing" marks on her
    men's clothing, and then distribute the video all over media in Iran to
    show with "proof" that Iran's government had killed her brother...

    ?.. Is that spy work or stupidity? Mossad pressed the agent to use the
    life of her own wasted addict brother, and they offered extra money for it!

    Well, the addict will stay alive now. So does your agent! And they'll
    both probably talk some more about how wonderful Mossad has been lately.
    And tens and tens of thousands of Iranian missiles will _not_ get rigged
    in the future. Ohh, but you make easy money, right? As long as Americans
    don't know shit. But forcing an Iranian to videotape and kill her
    helpless brother for you?

    I mean, which side do you guys work for? Hahhhahhah :-)) God damn!

    What a fuck up. Wow.

    So...either you work for Iran, or, you work for Iran! This is ridiculous.








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  • From Physfitfreak@21:1/5 to Physfitfreak on Fri Sep 1 18:46:46 2023
    On 8/31/2023 8:13 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:
    So...either you work for Iran, or, you work for Iran! This is ridiculous.




    My day today was not made by the quote above (that was what did it last
    night). My day was made when I opened this envelope :)

    Hahhhahahh :-))

    But that's none of your business.

    Regardless, I like what I see in this envelope. This is still Texas
    after all. Some things still work in Texas and probably nowhere else.
    Otherwise who are all these Yankees who've come down and poured in the
    area, trying to pick up the accent. It has been going on for 30 years
    now. Something here must be working better.

    Now, the quote above at the beginning of this post.

    The greatest fuck up of the 20th century, they say, was that Walker navy
    thing. And even that was peanuts for USA. But do you think this fuck up
    is peanuts for USA?... You can ask the personnel in those 24 U.S. bases circling Iran. Those sitting ducks.

    I don't know. When I step back and look at it, I have to admit that,
    ALREADY in the 21st century, this one has been greater than the previous century fuck up number one. News today still pretends nothing has
    happened :)

    Perhaps Mossad is now suffering from morons. How could that happen? By interbreeding with the central European bimbos. Their Dads, half-breds themselves to begin with, fucked their central European bimbo mothers
    without condoms. That's what I think has happened to it. They're fixing
    to become fully fledged Cro-Magnons.

    And this is only the American side of the matters. There is an Iranian
    side to it as well.

    Just for that one request that they over and over persisted the hapless
    woman carry out for them, just for that, some people are going to find
    them and insert zucchinis down their throats, then have them do the
    Yemenite in front of them. You wait and see.

    Who the fuck they are, forcing Iranians do such thing. For some _shit_
    like them motherfuckers?

    "Fuck you", she must've said! What I don't know is just in what
    language. Hebrew or Persian or English or Arabic or... But the content
    must've certainly been "Fuck you." So they're fucked now.

    It's really the breeding. I haven't seen crap like that in Modern Human.

    But this is of course only after assuming it was a fuck up. Cause it may
    not have been a fuck up, as I'd buried it under half of the above quote.

    But in case it was a pure fuck up, let me tell you, if you repeat that
    behavior towards an Iranian, you'll get yourselves discarded from the
    big picture. We'd treat you like any other pest in the world.









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  • From Physfitfreak@21:1/5 to Physfitfreak on Fri Sep 1 22:44:07 2023
    On 8/27/2023 10:40 AM, Physfitfreak wrote:
    Several of Iranians in Dallas area almost as soon as they arrived from
    Iran in late 1970s joined parachuting clubs :) Unlike in Iran, you
    didn't have to have ties to a military organization to have that access,
    so they were fast pursuing that part of their dreams, along of course
    other stuff not available to ordinary citizens in Iran, like owning
    guns, fucking literally any girl around them, going to topless bars,
    doing their grocery shopping (and more!) at 3 am, getting their car the
    same day they decided to have a car, and getting their driving licenses
    in that same day... A bunch of blessings that were available to
    Americans without the latter seeming to appreciate them.

    So one of those blessings was parachuting :) I didn't join. But at least
    two of my friends did. I was into swimming in those days, so I joined
    the swimming club that used a nearby high-school's all-year-round state
    of the art swimming pools (two of them). Unbelievably cheap, and always available. Often with Texas girls of top model-type bodies mixed in!
    Mostly students of that same high school. In Tehran, that would've been
    a dream to have. In here, 1978 Dallas, as easily as paying I don't know
    ... $7 ? 7 dollars a month. It was great :)


    This is how we felt during the first months, even the first few years :)

    https://streamable.com/g531dj

    See how the dog first tries to make sure the yoke is not there anymore,
    and only after making sure, begins enjoying his freedom :)

    The list of blessings I gave above is not complete by any means.
    Concerts! The greatest rock bands in the world always had Dallas on
    their tour list. I don't remember a weekend that there was not a hot
    band concert in downtown, or at the most in Fort Worth. I only once
    drove to Fort Worth. All the other times Dallas itself provided the best
    rock concerts in the world. Every weekend! Then after Reunion Arena was
    built (1980) the number of available concerts to see went up. In Iran?
    Forget it. We only bought the records and dreamed of it.

    And porn movies! Damit, how could I miss this one. You could always find sessions in some movie theaters around the town that showed porn movies.
    The drive in cinemas also sometimes showed porn movies. I never saw porn
    movies in Iran. Magazines, sure, but movies, no way.

    Other blessings? Plenty of them. In Iran, I, in my generation, competed
    with 700000 other applicants in the university entrance exams, so 2000
    students could be picked from us for that year. That was one chance out
    of 700. It was one of the hardest things I did in my life. This got
    harder and harder in later years, they were telling me, cause the number
    of applicants were skyrocketing while space they were adding in schools
    could not catch up at all with the demand.

    In Dallas, August 1978, two and a half months after I'd arrived, I drove
    to UTD and talked with the secretary of the "foreign student advisor"
    (not the latter himself - he had left for the day) in physics
    department's grad school for like 5 minutes. Showed my GRE and TOEFL
    scores to her. She told me to hurry to the other building's basement
    before the registrar hasn't left for the day. She had also called her
    when I got there, the registrar was waiting for me. I spent another 5
    minutes with her, at the end of which she gave me some booklets and
    schedules and said you're good to go, bookstore is that way and you have
    till such and such day to pay the tuition and fees, classes begin in two
    weeks. Just like that. I was in. And I was in, not in any school. This
    was one of the best schools in Texas.

    True, my GRE and TOEFL scores (obtained in those 2.5 summer months) had
    much to do with the ease with which I was registered, but ... hey, they
    were there for me the moment I needed them. I didn't have to wait for it
    one second extra. This is the point. The blessing, available for
    everybody like myself.

    The secretary, after I'd left her office to go to the other building,
    must've called the registrar saying something like, "Don't go yet,
    another one is coming!" The blessing was available for _everybody_ in my
    shoes, not just me.

    Do you think such things come by themselves? No. I can't even imagine
    how much work from how many good men and women has gone into it for
    things like that be as I described. Americans in general do not see
    that. They think God made it available to them cause that's how things
    are. No, that's not how things are.

    So watch the above clip again :) It tells you a book about America of 1978.






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  • From Physfitfreak@21:1/5 to Physfitfreak on Sat Sep 2 09:55:59 2023
    On 9/1/2023 10:44 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:
    Other blessings? Plenty of them. In Iran, I, in my generation, competed
    with 700000 other applicants in the university entrance exams, so 2000 students could be picked from us for that year. That was one chance out
    of 700.


    Hehe :) No that was not lack of caffeine in that one. I was just too
    sleepy, past my bedtime. Plus I do these stuff very fast. The chance was
    1 out of 350. Next years for people coming in universities that chance
    got less and less dramatically. There was not enough facilities to serve
    them. Shah was concentrating on some other (very important) stuff, and
    most money was going that way. Stuff that Carter felt so deep up his
    limited rural ass.

    Carter fucked it up, and you Americans still do not know that. You are
    sheep. We Iranians weren't sheep.

    But there were "blessings" in the Texas of 1978, some of which I briefly mentioned.

    Another important one, which again you sheep do not see, was the ability
    to find a job fast. To this day, it never took me more than one week to
    get a job. Even from day one I could get a simple job within hours max.

    My first job? :-) Hehe :) I'd secured admission in UTD and was living in
    Plano. I noticed that receiving my own money from the bank in Iran was
    getting problematic. So I walked across the street from my two bedroom
    apt, and entered the "Mr. M" convenience store there. "M" stood for
    Metzger, the owner of a large dairy company in Dallas. I asked the
    casheer if they had any position open. The girl took me to the manager
    (whom I later fucked many times both in store and in my apt across the
    street), and the slender hot woman gave me an application to fill. Next
    day she calls and says, "You can start tomorrow." :-) I was paid a
    dollar or so above the minimum wage back then, which was nothing in
    today's dollar, but in those days' dollar it paid for a lot of stuff :)
    People could live with a "Mr M" store job in those days. Many did. It is impossible to do that now.

    So that was it. A walk across the street was what was required. In
    Tehran, I had searched for 6 months to get the job that I got, even with
    a fresh BS in physics degree in my pocket and knowing German. The job
    paid similarly to that "Mr M" store in fact, yet required knowledge of
    German language and care and precision work of a young physics graduate.
    I was compiling orders for merchandise that customers would only see
    pictures of in a German catalog. I would read the information for them
    for each item, so they'd know exactly what they were looking at and how
    much it would cost them to order from Germany. Compared to living
    expenses in Tehran, with that job, since I was still in my parent's
    house made me save a lot of money in bank, enough to immediately
    convince the American embassy guy that I had the money for my expenses
    in USA, and getting the visa.

    But in Dallas, even in those days, the same amount of money wouldn't
    make you able to save money, although it paid all the bills. And this Mr
    M store job paid almost as much as the job I had in Iran.

    That manager (may god increase her genes) lived a long way away from the
    store. Somewhere north of Plano called Ana. Some nights she was just too
    tired to drive the distance home, so she'd come to my bed instead. Next
    day we'd wake up around noon, I'd go to school, she'd go across the
    street to her store. I may even have increased her genes! :-( Seriously.
    What a beautiful young woman she was. She'd received the shock of her
    life when she first saw me reading a newspaper in Persian language,
    airmailed to me. "WHAT IS THIS???..." She could not comprehend that I
    could read and understand it :) It was like she'd discovered a Martian.
    My accent was no big deal for her cause different Americans she'd come
    across had to a good extent different accents and she was not that
    unfamiliar to that. But when she saw the written Persian, that was a
    first to her. Pure shock.

    But she was both beautiful and hot. As hot as it gets.

    So compare 6 months with a walk across the street. There is something
    "blessed" about it. No?... But you American sheep don't see it.













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  • From Physfitfreak@21:1/5 to Physfitfreak on Sun Sep 3 06:56:04 2023
    On 9/2/2023 9:55 AM, Physfitfreak wrote:
    I was paid a dollar or so above the minimum wage back then


    It happened that I didn't get to use the money that I'd earned in that
    store for several months. They could not issue a check for me because I
    didn't have a social security number. And right in the middle of that
    mess, the study in that school had taken a serious turn and I didn't
    have one minute extra, let alone half a day to drive downtown and apply
    for a social security number. Texas didn't have a requirement for
    permission to work in applying for SSN (either legally and deliberately according to their true plans, or illegally by looking the other way).

    Right after last exams of that semester, we Iranians heard that next
    semester we had to pay the "foreign student" tuition and fees and began grappling for money to make it happen. So just the next day, I drove
    downtown and applied for SSN. When I received the card, I took it to the
    store I worked at and they immediately began processing what they owed
    to me, knowing how long I'd worked for them without pay.

    Needless to say, I got a huge check (for those days anyway) from them
    which not only paid my new tuition and fees, it also made me able to buy
    a nice bicycle from Sears :-)

    So I added riding that bicycle to the array of physical fitness measures
    I had arranged for myself. It was fun. Sometimes I rode it to school and
    back! That was quite a distance, Plano to UTD. Only the Mormon professor
    in physics dept did that all the time. Plus the road between was never windless. So one way riding was quite difficult and time consuming, and
    the opposite way easy and much faster. Detecting wind beforehand was a
    tricky business because from my window of the apartment, the trees I
    could see, none moved one bit by wind. They were so sturdy that it was
    like you were looking at a picture. And it was never a steady wind, so
    you couldn't just walk outside and detect it. It came for a few minutes
    then was gone for a few minutes, all the time. So I could not
    effectively decide whether I should use the bike or not on any
    particular day. So almost all the time paid for it the way I described.
    Wind is the number one factor for anybody who seriously rides bicycles.

    Also, bikes could park within 10 yards of the physics building, so you
    didn't have to walk a mile to get there when you used your car.

    I still have the stub of that first check in the attic :) It came
    extremely handy for me indeed, cause in 1985 I used that to _prove_ that
    I had worked illegally already back then in 1978, and that was more than
    the 5 years required by the new amnesty law. So I'd become legally
    illegal from 1978 and on. This is how I got my green card! You had to be residing in the USA "illegally" for at least 5 years to use that amnesty
    law.

    The stub also indicates how much they subtracted from it for medical
    insurance (blue cross blue shield). A dollar and something per week :-))))

    Today, you have to pay an arm and a leg each week to have that same
    insurance cover.

    The memory of that stub alone has made my day, already :) So fuck you
    and your ilk both.







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  • From Physfitfreak@21:1/5 to Physfitfreak on Sun Sep 3 09:44:26 2023
    On 8/27/2023 12:10 AM, Physfitfreak wrote:


    This one is pure gas :-)))

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Or-_uvg-X2Y



    This one is also a lot of gas :) Check out the demeanor of the bride
    around the end of the festivity. Pure humility. Pure patience. So
    Iranian from begin to end :-)

    Russian southern area were either part of Iran recently (up to 1830s) or
    are strongly influenced by anything Iranian. Dance, music, traditions, anything.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkWdBZif3p8





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  • From Physfitfreak@21:1/5 to Physfitfreak on Sun Sep 3 12:14:21 2023
    On 8/27/2023 10:40 AM, Physfitfreak wrote:
    Several of Iranians in Dallas area almost as soon as they arrived from
    Iran in late 1970s joined parachuting clubs :) Unlike in Iran, you
    didn't have to have ties to a military organization to have that access,
    so they were fast pursuing that part of their dreams, along of


    This unfortunately proved to give them grief a few short years later.
    FBI repeatedly interrogated them for that. Not just once or twice! I,
    the most peaceful person in the world you could imagine, was myself interrogated by FBI _two_ times. Now imagine what those Iranians who had
    made themselves experts in parachuting went through.

    One of them was a friend in the same department in school that I was. I
    can remember well, and for at least 5 years he'd been regularly
    interrogated by FBI. He was sick of it. His blood would begin to boil
    just thinking about it. And he had done nothing wrong, just like myself.
    But I was just interrogated twice and never more, and he (and any other
    Iranian who learned parachuting) was visited by FBI like 12 times a year.

    So we guessed that they (the FBI) had some sort of protocol for that.
    Under certain situations, a person who knew parachuting would
    automatically become suspect.

    Crazy, no? The two times FBI spoke with me (about two hours each time!),
    at least were conducted very politely on their sides. Quite gentlemanly.
    They did their best not to aggravate me and succeeded at that. But the
    way they treated these parachuters, boy, the friend was telling me that
    they weren't so careful at all. And it never ended :( Every year for at
    least 5 years or so, and multiple times a year. FBI would not let them
    have peace.

    Hahahhhah :-)

    That's how that innocent activity of their had turned out for them :)

    But it was to a funny extent their own faults as well! Hahhhahahah :-)

    These tootsies had to each year go see their Mums in Iran. Sometimes
    twice! Some Iranians never graduate past that. I never went back to
    Iran, to this day! Didn't need to, you know. Before, it was letters,
    then email, and then skype or telegram. Never needed more than that. But
    those other Iranians, those tootsies, had to see their mothers at least
    once a year :)

    So, can you blame it on FBI? I mean the suspicion that it created... I wouldn't.

    FBI _knew_ I was not a person to create any trouble even before they met
    me both times. They had to just follow their routine. My encounter with
    them wasn't even boring. It was like I was speaking with my professors.






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  • From Physfitfreak@21:1/5 to All on Sun Sep 3 15:38:10 2023
    In mens' side of Lezgi dance as I mentioned before, the foot work is all
    pretty standard and involves several forms that are practiced until done automatically. The hand moves also are mostly standard but with more
    variety depending on how they guy feels. And at the end of each session,
    the dancer freezes into certain poses that I think have various
    underlying mental reactions behind them. You know, like the poses that
    animals freeze into at moments of excitement or play (i.e. faking such excitements).

    We all have seen cats doing it, both when they're serious and when
    they're joyfully playing and are faking it. For instance, this is a pose
    this cat has frozen into which is not fake, but is his reaction to the
    sudden possibility that his human companion might be actually another cat!

    https://streamable.com/4qtzez

    On other joyful occasions, they play by faking such situations and
    getting themselves frozen into same poses in an imaginary situation.
    Very young cats do that all the time.

    Even raccoons do that, did you know that? I've seen them freezing in a
    pose when surprised. Here is an example I found and saved. One of the
    raccoons on suddenly realizing that he is being seen by human just stops
    in a normal pose, and the other gets into a special pose saved for such
    special situations:

    https://streamable.com/zwrpyk

    I think the various poses one sees that a Lezgi dancer ends his moves in
    is of the same type. They're automatic, but can be faked for purposes of
    having fun.

    Lezgi dance in the Greater Iran is ancient and slowly varies from region
    to region, because it is a reflection of how those people see themselves
    as men and women. In Iran and nearby countries both men and women
    participate in it, but as you go east, by the time you reach India, the
    dance is all done by women. I don't think Indians have a traditional
    dance for men. A woman is doing it and is very advanced as well, with
    quite a lot of skills built into them. That shows India (in fact Greater
    India) consists of people distinct from Iranian people as far as how
    they look at their men and women. Come to think of it, in Greater China
    as well I don't think people have a dance performed by men. It is always
    women and they do not have fast movements in them. In Japan, the men who
    dance have to put women make up and clothing on to dance. I think
    because there's just no dance in there for men specifically. They also
    do not have fast movements.

    Indian dance has quite a lot of very fast movements done by women.

    These are all based on how each people look at their men and women.




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  • From Physfitfreak@21:1/5 to All on Sun Sep 3 17:05:50 2023
    As I said, as far as I know there is no male role in any of the Indian
    dances. If there is, I suspect they have identical moves with women
    dances, which is absurd. Well, to an Iranian that is :) Cause it would
    mean that women and men are looked upon identically in there. A strange proposition for an Iranian. In Iran women are in no way identical to men
    in any respect. Including legally! They have their own unique roles and
    men have their own unique roles in life. And it is reflected so well in
    Lezgi dance.

    So Indians are culturally quite different from Iranians. And this gets
    weirder if you go farther east into the Greater China areas. All the
    fast moves that still exists in some Indian dances, disappear in their
    dances, the latter also always performed by women.

    A few examples of Indian dance:

    Eastern India. Odissi dance. No fast moves. No male part.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52bscmW8x80

    Southern India. Bharatanatyam dance. Some fast moves. No male part.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2qmRc1YEU0

    Southwest India. Kathakali dance. Here the man has to wear women dress
    and put make up on to dance (like in Japan). No fast moves:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GBbcYtkqVKQ

    North Inida. Kathak dance. Fast movements. No male part.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBYqv21c0Yk

    Northeast India. Manipuri dance. Now one begins to see the Chinese
    influence. No fast moves. No male part:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKCeGwTTLmY

    Southeast India. Kuchipudi dance. Some Chinese influence. But some fast
    moves. No male part.

    https://www.youtube.com/shorts/sfgqTiILKd0

    So it makes me wonder where men are in all this. Why are they absent? I
    really don't know the answer. And it starts eastward from India and gets
    more and more so as one goes east, all the way to Japan _and_ beyond to
    the Polynesian islands people. I've only seen their women dance.




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  • From Physfitfreak@21:1/5 to All on Sun Sep 3 19:15:23 2023
    So it makes me wonder where men are in all this. Why are they absent? I really don't know the answer. And it starts eastward from India and gets
    more and more so as one goes east, all the way to Japan _and_ beyond to
    the Polynesian islands people. I've only seen their women dance.



    So, can one conclude that (beside Africans - I don't know anything about
    them) men dancing at all is and has always been an Iranian (Aryan) thing
    only? In lezgi dance men are almost doing the whole dance. Women's part
    is rather trivial and yet at the same time everything the man is doing
    is for her, and because of her. It very much reflects how men-women relationship is throughout life in Iran, not just in how they dance with
    each other. In an Iranian life, women are at the center of everything,
    not needing to lift a finger, almost; and men are struggling to show
    their appreciation of them as well as trying to get their attention.
    THAT I know.

    But how is it that this behavior is absent in India and China? I mean,
    how can that be? Where is the "man" in the fabric of life in those regions?

    A possible scenario:
    The meaning of dance itself is different in those people. They look at
    dance as something like cooking! Or giving birth. Or ... singing.

    Another possible scenario:
    They are so thoroughly separate from each other in the life they're
    living together, that nothing in the form of dancing together ever
    formed in them. Woman was just the baby maker and house cleaner, and man
    was minding his business bringing in the money and otherwise giving no
    damn about her presence in there, and vice versa.

    Cause this is _not_ so among Iranians! Women are not only present, they
    are present right at the center of lives they have together, providing
    all the influences you can think of on how those lives are proceeding,
    yet needing no advertising for it at all. They're the human that's
    behind the family, staying in the shadows. They have no need to come to
    the front to get what they want.

    I think in India and China things must be very very different between
    men and women who live their lives together.








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  • From Physfitfreak@21:1/5 to All on Wed Sep 13 19:03:58 2023
    Another pure gas, this is more recent.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBSnJhwOEs4


    And one from my own generation:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87rCmEeaGcs


    Jews do it too of course: (gas begins at 43:30 min timestamp)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qG1S-f6IwfY


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  • From Physfitfreak@21:1/5 to Physfitfreak on Thu Sep 14 18:33:00 2023
    On 9/3/2023 5:05 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:
    Southern India. Bharatanatyam dance. Some fast moves. No male part.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2qmRc1YEU0


    What an awesome display of "womanhood" among the Modern Humans. Here is
    another one:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUpxj7CyxEM

    Very logical, explanatory, analytic. Just like my two-rule set for
    leaving behind the apes dictates.





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  • From Physfitfreak@21:1/5 to Physfitfreak on Thu Sep 14 21:26:57 2023
    On 9/14/2023 6:33 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:
    On 9/3/2023 5:05 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:
    Southern India. Bharatanatyam dance. Some fast moves. No male part.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2qmRc1YEU0


    What an awesome display of "womanhood" among the Modern Humans. Here is another one:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUpxj7CyxEM

    Very logical, explanatory, analytic. Just like my two-rule set for
    leaving behind the apes dictates.







    Even a double is done by two women, not a man and a woman.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TdYWOr12ONU

    I think I'm beginning to understand why it is all done by women only.
    Men do not count! I told you that. It goes back to those same two rules
    at the heart of what made Modern Human. Men didn't take us here (they
    only preserved some of the better genes from earlier humans). Women did.
    It was all done by women.

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  • From Physfitfreak@21:1/5 to Physfitfreak on Sat Sep 16 13:53:42 2023
    On 9/14/2023 9:26 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:
    On 9/14/2023 6:33 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:
    On 9/3/2023 5:05 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:
    Southern India. Bharatanatyam dance. Some fast moves. No male part.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2qmRc1YEU0


    What an awesome display of "womanhood" among the Modern Humans. Here
    is another one:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUpxj7CyxEM

    Very logical, explanatory, analytic. Just like my two-rule set for
    leaving behind the apes dictates.







    Even a double is done by two women, not a man and a woman.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TdYWOr12ONU

    I think I'm beginning to understand why it is all done by women only.
    Men do not count! I told you that. It goes back to those same two rules
    at the heart of what made Modern Human. Men didn't take us here (they
    only preserved some of the better genes from earlier humans). Women did.
    It was all done by women.



    This is a rare one involving men as well. I'd never seen one with male
    dancers in it:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTrGVHvWfPA



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  • From Physfitfreak@21:1/5 to Physfitfreak on Sat Sep 16 14:42:00 2023
    On 9/16/2023 1:53 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:
    This is a rare one involving men as well. I'd never seen one with male dancers in it:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTrGVHvWfPA


    But this might be using them as gays, not men. It could be a new trend
    after woke culture hit the industry, or perhaps very old, like what
    Moslems did with their gays.

    Moslems, traditionally, convince gays to go back to that which created
    them, usually with a service done while on the way there. For centuries
    back, they'd be the ones to carry out suicide missions (using either
    swords, or mostly a dagger). Nowadays, they wrap them with explosives
    and send them to serve god and be with god...

    Gays in non-Moslem countries usually jump down multistory buildings. No
    serving god included.

    So these few Indian dances that involve men along their women are
    suspect to me. They may all be something new and meaningless.





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  • From Physfitfreak@21:1/5 to All on Tue Sep 19 19:52:40 2023
    Today Azarbayejan began using more of Israeli made Harops against
    Armenia's military posts. Take a look at one of these things:

    https://i.postimg.cc/CLMrt36h/Harop.jpg

    Don't tell me they didn't copy Iran's Shahed 136 (made by Shahed
    helicopter factories) and just decorated it with bullshit :-) Very high-schoolish additions. Hahhhah :) Products of high-schoolish imagination.

    Even Israeli's smaller version of Harop (mini-Harop) looks like a copy
    of Iran's smaller version, Shahed 131.

    What does that say? I think Iranians may have advanced past Israelis in designing war equipments.

    But with what Azarbayejan revealed today (videos of its destruction of
    Armenian targets) it seems that Harop might be somewhat more accurate
    than the Iranian Shahed 136. But this is just a wild guess, as Shahed's
    degree of accuracy is still a war secret. We do know that some of the
    targets in Ukraine (and Saudia Arabia) were hit with pin-point accuracy,
    but there's not even one clip showing it from Shahed's own camera, while Harop's camera video clips are all over.

    Other than Azarbayejan, India also buys Harops from Israel, but now that
    Iran is in BRICS they may change to Shahed 136 from now on. I'm sure the
    Iran's is at least 3 times less expensive than its Israeli copy.
    Otherwise, Russia would be buying them from their buddies in Israel, not
    Iran.

    Iran sells her Shahed 136 and 131 to several African and Asian nations;
    it is so much in demand there's a long wait time to get them. It is
    after all a helicopter factory that builds them on the side. Yet the
    media in USA only points to Russia as its customer. Cowards!

    Iran gave the know-how some years back to Houthis whore presently
    manufacturing their own. It is possible that part of the know-how making
    the heart of its success got from Houthis to Israel via their Jewish
    faction.

    And best design for what it is and can do, is best design no matter who
    wants to do what with it. When it comes to cost vs capability, there's
    not an equal. And those "additions" to it by Israel still make me laugh.
    Like you've asked Mr Vulva here to think of something for their
    improvements :) Hahhahah :) It is that joke of additions that made my
    day today :)

    But... Now that I talked about it so much, how about seeing the latest
    from Shahed 136 in Ukraine? :-) This is from last night indeed:

    https://streamable.com/o5zgdf

    Ooollalla!... :)

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  • From Volney@21:1/5 to Physfitfreak on Tue Sep 19 23:31:27 2023
    On 9/19/2023 8:52 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:

    Even Israeli's smaller version of Harop (mini-Harop) looks like a copy
    of Iran's smaller version, Shahed 131.

    What, Iran stole Israel's drone designs?

    What does that say? I think Iranians may have advanced past Israelis in designing war equipments.

    Iran even advanced on Israel's drone design?

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  • From Physfitfreak@21:1/5 to Physfitfreak on Sat Sep 23 21:16:52 2023
    On 9/13/2023 7:03 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:


    Another pure gas, this is more recent.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBSnJhwOEs4


    And one from my own generation:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87rCmEeaGcs


    Jews do it too of course: (gas begins at 43:30 min timestamp)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qG1S-f6IwfY




    So as you see, the southerin Russia and the entire Caucasian people also
    do Lezgi dance.

    How about the rest of Russia? I don't know what they were doing before
    in the name of dance, but this is what they're doing now:

    https://streamable.com/s7wfxi

    Which means, same African trait that exists in all cro-magnon peoples.
    So I'm not interested in that. We have the originals, Africans, to do
    that for us.

    So don't, ever, mistake Lezgi dance with what some of the cro-magnon
    people do today. Lezgi is Iranian in origin, not cro-magnon.

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  • From Physfitfreak@21:1/5 to Physfitfreak on Sat Sep 23 21:22:17 2023
    On 9/13/2023 7:03 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:


    Another pure gas, this is more recent.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBSnJhwOEs4


    And one from my own generation:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87rCmEeaGcs


    Jews do it too of course: (gas begins at 43:30 min timestamp)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qG1S-f6IwfY




    So as you see, the southern Russia and the entire Caucasian people also
    do Lezgi dance.

    How about the rest of Russia? I don't know what they were doing before
    in the name of dance, but this is what they're doing now:

    https://streamable.com/s7wfxi

    Which means, same African trait that exists in all cro-magnon peoples.
    So I'm not interested in that. We have the originals, Africans, to do
    that for us.

    So don't, ever, mistake Lezgi dance with what some of the cro-magnon
    people do today. Lezgi is Iranian in origin, not cro-magnon.

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  • From Physfitfreak@21:1/5 to All on Mon Sep 25 18:42:12 2023
    In the news today, Kissinger is in Ukraine advising Zelensky.

    https://i.postimg.cc/wv6kDx8M/Kissinger-in-Ukraine.jpg

    From reading Zelensky's face I can see that Kissinger is telling him:

    Kissinger:
    "Listen to me my little Bitch, sometimes one needs to sit back and
    realize that he's simply fucked. Why do you feel bad about it? We
    Americans do it all the time, and life goes on. In fact every single
    time we come across even the word, "Iran", we feel fucked. My Bitch, it
    is ok to feel fucked."

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  • From Physfitfreak@21:1/5 to All on Mon Sep 25 19:11:34 2023
    Tehran Times hits again :)

    Back in July it leaked secret U.S. documents into media (letter and
    voice recordings) causing Rob Malley's losing his security clearance.
    Now it has revealed Israeli secret documents showing Yahoo Netan Yahoo
    suffers from dementia.

    https://i.postimg.cc/PxJNZ0xY/Yahoo-Netan-Yahoo.jpg

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  • From Physfitfreak@21:1/5 to Physfitfreak on Mon Sep 25 19:25:38 2023
    On 9/25/2023 7:11 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:

    Tehran Times hits again :)

    Back in July it leaked secret U.S. documents into media (letter and
    voice recordings) causing Rob Malley's losing his security clearance.
    Now it has revealed Israeli secret documents showing Yahoo Netan Yahoo suffers from dementia.

    https://i.postimg.cc/PxJNZ0xY/Yahoo-Netan-Yahoo.jpg




    Oops, that's Tehran Times' first page. The article itself is at:

    https://www.tehrantimes.com/news/489348/Nuclear-dementia

    I'm sure you read and remember what I posted about recent busting of
    Mossad agents in Iran (and outside Iran). Yes, the news that none of you
    saw in your media if you weren't aware of it beforehand :) I think as a
    result of the treatment which that Iranian woman had received from
    Mossad, a bunch of people are pissed and are doing what they can.

    This article says "70000" court documents of Israelis, many of them
    stamped, "top secret", has been sent to Tehran Times! So we'll see more
    of these revealings in this magazine.

    Plus, Americans never found out how Tehran Times got to those classified
    letter and recordings pertaining Malley.

    Don't piss off Iranians. Do you ever learn? Go play with your Bitches
    around the world. Iran is not your Bitch. Even in 1960s Iran fooled you
    in every which way she wanted. Forget now!

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  • From Physfitfreak@21:1/5 to Physfitfreak on Tue Sep 26 18:25:31 2023
    On 9/19/2023 7:52 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:

    Today Azarbayejan began using more of Israeli made Harops against
    Armenia's military posts. Take a look at one of these things:

    https://i.postimg.cc/CLMrt36h/Harop.jpg

    Don't tell me they didn't copy Iran's Shahed 136 (made by Shahed
    helicopter factories) and just decorated it with bullshit :-) Very high-schoolish additions. Hahhhah :) Products of high-schoolish
    imagination.

    Even Israeli's smaller version of Harop (mini-Harop) looks like a copy
    of Iran's smaller version, Shahed 131.

    What does that say? I think Iranians may have advanced past Israelis in designing war equipments.

    But with what Azarbayejan revealed today (videos of its destruction of Armenian targets) it seems that Harop might be somewhat more accurate
    than the Iranian Shahed 136. But this is just a wild guess, as Shahed's degree of accuracy is still a war secret. We do know that some of the
    targets in Ukraine (and Saudia Arabia) were hit with pin-point accuracy,
    but there's not even one clip showing it from Shahed's own camera, while Harop's camera video clips are all over.

    Other than Azarbayejan, India also buys Harops from Israel, but now that
    Iran is in BRICS they may change to Shahed 136 from now on. I'm sure the Iran's is at least 3 times less expensive than its Israeli copy.
    Otherwise, Russia would be buying them from their buddies in Israel, not Iran.

    Iran sells her Shahed 136 and 131 to several African and Asian nations;
    it is so much in demand there's a long wait time to get them. It is
    after all a helicopter factory that builds them on the side. Yet the
    media in USA only points to Russia as its customer. Cowards!

    Iran gave the know-how some years back to Houthis whore presently manufacturing their own. It is possible that part of the know-how making
    the heart of its success got from Houthis to Israel via their Jewish
    faction.

    And best design for what it is and can do, is best design no matter who
    wants to do what with it. When it comes to cost vs capability, there's
    not an equal. And those "additions" to it by Israel still make me laugh.
    Like you've asked Mr Vulva here to think of something for their
    improvements :) Hahhahah :) It is that joke of additions that made my
    day today :)

    But... Now that I talked about it so much, how about seeing the latest
    from Shahed 136 in Ukraine? :-) This is from last night indeed:

    https://streamable.com/o5zgdf

    Ooollalla!... :)






    Iran has begun manufacturing a new one... And this sure made my day
    today :)

    This new one has a jet engine, making it much much quieter, and much
    much faster, with _somewhat_ more explosive power! Hahhhahah :-)) You
    know what I mean.

    And guess what, not much more expensive to make than 136 model! They're
    going to meet you baby :-) Somewhere around the world, one day, they
    will meet you when you get rude.

    https://streamable.com/qpoluv

    Plus pinpoint accuracy. Launched from anything that moves. Including
    your own pickup truck. The company that makes them are setting aside new
    plants focusing on that one product as opposed to making them alongside helicopters, etc. So experiment phase must be over. It really made my
    day this evening :)

    Don't tell me Israelis aren't right now at this moment running around
    like agitated ants trying to copy that for their Harops with those
    vulvatic additions :-))) Hehe :)

    This model was unveiled just yesterday. They haven't even said what its
    model number is :)

    So with its new incredibly higher speed and quiet performance, you
    understand that the scenario below is now unlikely. In fact, it is nommo! :)

    https://streamable.com/ytm2i0

    You can't find it in the night sky, forget a cloudy one, and even if you
    do, it'll be useless to shoot at. In no time it'll disappear in your
    horizon fast and softly, continuing its incredibly shorter journey
    towards where your asses are!

    It makes the world safer against Global Pests. It does. That's why the
    best of Iran builds it. Those who're not hired in your "JPL" anymore.
    Those who're not "serving your tables in Dallas restaurants." Those days
    don't exist anymore.

    So suck on it first, then think hard.

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  • From Physfitfreak@21:1/5 to Physfitfreak on Tue Sep 26 20:00:51 2023
    On 9/26/2023 6:25 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:
    Iran has begun manufacturing a new one...  And this sure made my day
    today :)

    This new one has a jet engine, making it much much quieter, and much
    much faster, with _somewhat_ more explosive power!  Hahhhahah :-)) You
    know what I mean.

    And guess what, not much more expensive to make than 136 model! They're
    going to meet you baby :-) Somewhere around the world, one day, they
    will meet you when you get rude.

    https://streamable.com/qpoluv

    Plus pinpoint accuracy. Launched from anything that moves. Including
    your own pickup truck. The company that makes them are setting aside new plants focusing on that one product as opposed to making them alongside helicopters, etc. So experiment phase must be over. It really made my
    day this evening :)

    Don't tell me Israelis aren't right now at this moment running around
    like agitated ants trying to copy that for their Harops with those
    vulvatic additions :-))) Hehe :)

    This model was unveiled just yesterday. They haven't even said what its
    model number is :)

    So with its new incredibly higher speed and quiet performance, you
    understand that the scenario below is now unlikely. In fact, it is
    nommo! :)

    https://streamable.com/ytm2i0

    You can't find it in the night sky, forget a cloudy one, and even if you
    do, it'll be useless to shoot at. In no time it'll disappear in your
    horizon fast and softly, continuing its incredibly shorter journey
    towards where your asses are!

    It makes the world safer against Global Pests. It does. That's why the
    best of Iran builds it. Those who're not hired in your "JPL" anymore.
    Those who're not "serving your tables in Dallas restaurants." Those days don't exist anymore.

    So suck on it first, then think hard.



    According to this report (came out July 27, 2023) China was working on
    the concept a couple of months ago. Gee I wonder where they got that
    concept from. In any case, looks like Iran beat them to it.


    https://en.defence-ua.com/news/chinas_developing_own_shahed_136_analog_with_a_jet_engine-7444.html

    It says, "The project is so far just a concept but still deserves
    attention."

    This was only two months back :-)

    So there is a chance China buying them from Iran now. What would those hurriedly put together plants for after all? Or could it have been a
    joint project?

    Anyway, very interesting. Poor Israelis.. They're falling behind Iran :)

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  • From Physfitfreak@21:1/5 to Physfitfreak on Tue Sep 26 20:28:12 2023
    On 9/26/2023 8:00 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:
    And guess what, not much more expensive to make than 136 model!


    136 costs like a car, and this new one still costs like a somewhat
    better car. Nothing like the astronomical prices with which Americans
    used to sell their stuff to get the petrodalla's back.

    Now Americans are charging their own people such prices for those same crap-for-the-cost weapons. Sheep!

    "one by one", almost one night by one night :)

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  • From Physfitfreak@21:1/5 to All on Mon Oct 2 23:54:10 2023
    "Say that again?..."

    https://streamable.com/mxpiul

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  • From Physfitfreak@21:1/5 to Physfitfreak on Wed Oct 4 22:29:48 2023
    On 9/25/2023 7:25 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:
    On 9/25/2023 7:11 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:

    Tehran Times hits again :)

    Back in July it leaked secret U.S. documents into media (letter and
    voice recordings) causing Rob Malley's losing his security clearance.
    Now it has revealed Israeli secret documents showing Yahoo Netan Yahoo
    suffers from dementia.

    https://i.postimg.cc/PxJNZ0xY/Yahoo-Netan-Yahoo.jpg




    Oops, that's Tehran Times' first page. The article itself is at:

    https://www.tehrantimes.com/news/489348/Nuclear-dementia

    I'm sure you read and remember what I posted about recent busting of
    Mossad agents in Iran (and outside Iran). Yes, the news that none of you
    saw in your media if you weren't aware of it beforehand :) I think as a result of the treatment which that Iranian woman had received from
    Mossad, a bunch of people are pissed and are doing what they can.

    This article says "70000" court documents of Israelis, many of them
    stamped, "top secret", has been sent to Tehran Times! So we'll see more
    of these revealings in this magazine.

    Plus, Americans never found out how Tehran Times got to those classified letter and recordings pertaining Malley.

    Don't piss off Iranians. Do you ever learn? Go play with your Bitches
    around the world. Iran is not your Bitch. Even in 1960s Iran fooled you
    in every which way she wanted. Forget now!






    More is out! Last month's row with Mossad is continuing. A document is published by Iranians that shows it wasn't just Israeli court documents
    that went to Iranians. This one is a secret list of about 30 or so
    journalists of major newspapers around the world (including American)
    who were on Yahoo's payroll to promote him in their news outlets. Did
    you see it? $15000 a month isn't a bad way of making you say what Yahoo
    wants.

    I would've posted that list here, but the information on the bribed
    individuals are so invasive that I cannot do that. Even their social
    security numbers and passport numbers and birth dates and full legal
    names and their citizenship and place of work were listed! From $2000
    per month to $15000 per month are in that list, and these bribes
    continued till Yahoo won again.

    I think Iranians in Israel got really pissed at Mossad by the way they
    treated their Iranian agent. I don't know. I got pissed when I found
    out. Iranians say the list came out of Yahoo's office via an "electronic storage device" and is one among many other types of information.

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  • From Physfitfreak@21:1/5 to Physfitfreak on Wed Oct 4 22:51:27 2023
    On 9/25/2023 7:25 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:
    On 9/25/2023 7:11 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:

    Tehran Times hits again :)

    Back in July it leaked secret U.S. documents into media (letter and
    voice recordings) causing Rob Malley's losing his security clearance.
    Now it has revealed Israeli secret documents showing Yahoo Netan Yahoo
    suffers from dementia.

    https://i.postimg.cc/PxJNZ0xY/Yahoo-Netan-Yahoo.jpg




    Oops, that's Tehran Times' first page. The article itself is at:

    https://www.tehrantimes.com/news/489348/Nuclear-dementia

    I'm sure you read and remember what I posted about recent busting of
    Mossad agents in Iran (and outside Iran). Yes, the news that none of you
    saw in your media if you weren't aware of it beforehand :) I think as a result of the treatment which that Iranian woman had received from
    Mossad, a bunch of people are pissed and are doing what they can.

    This article says "70000" court documents of Israelis, many of them
    stamped, "top secret", has been sent to Tehran Times! So we'll see more
    of these revealings in this magazine.

    Plus, Americans never found out how Tehran Times got to those classified letter and recordings pertaining Malley.

    Don't piss off Iranians. Do you ever learn? Go play with your Bitches
    around the world. Iran is not your Bitch. Even in 1960s Iran fooled you
    in every which way she wanted. Forget now!





    Oh boy, there are also a lot of secret information about Ehud Barak,
    Benny Gantz, Ehud Olmert, and others together with pictures of them,
    pointing to extremely embarrassing situations and facts, which Yahoo
    wanted to put into use (or did put into use secretly) against them to
    win the elections. All that also was obtained from Yahoo's office and is presently in the hands of Iranian security people.

    So this isn't anything done by supporters of opposition to Yahoo, they
    wouldn't publish damaging facts about Yahoo's internal enemies. This is
    about Iran's row with Mossad which started last month. Very interesting
    stuff.

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  • From Physfitfreak@21:1/5 to Physfitfreak on Thu Oct 5 00:01:29 2023
    On 10/4/2023 10:51 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:
    On 9/25/2023 7:25 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:
    On 9/25/2023 7:11 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:

    Tehran Times hits again :)

    Back in July it leaked secret U.S. documents into media (letter and
    voice recordings) causing Rob Malley's losing his security clearance.
    Now it has revealed Israeli secret documents showing Yahoo Netan
    Yahoo suffers from dementia.

    https://i.postimg.cc/PxJNZ0xY/Yahoo-Netan-Yahoo.jpg




    Oops, that's Tehran Times' first page. The article itself is at:

    https://www.tehrantimes.com/news/489348/Nuclear-dementia

    I'm sure you read and remember what I posted about recent busting of
    Mossad agents in Iran (and outside Iran). Yes, the news that none of
    you saw in your media if you weren't aware of it beforehand :) I think
    as a result of the treatment which that Iranian woman had received
    from Mossad, a bunch of people are pissed and are doing what they can.

    This article says "70000" court documents of Israelis, many of them
    stamped, "top secret", has been sent to Tehran Times! So we'll see
    more of these revealings in this magazine.

    Plus, Americans never found out how Tehran Times got to those
    classified letter and recordings pertaining Malley.

    Don't piss off Iranians. Do you ever learn? Go play with your Bitches
    around the world. Iran is not your Bitch. Even in 1960s Iran fooled
    you in every which way she wanted. Forget now!





    Oh boy, there are also a lot of secret information about Ehud Barak,
    Benny Gantz, Ehud Olmert, and others together with pictures of them,
    pointing to extremely embarrassing situations and facts, which Yahoo
    wanted to put into use (or did put into use secretly) against them to
    win the elections. All that also was obtained from Yahoo's office and is presently in the hands of Iranian security people.

    So this isn't anything done by supporters of opposition to Yahoo, they wouldn't publish damaging facts about Yahoo's internal enemies. This is
    about Iran's row with Mossad which started last month. Very interesting stuff.







    Another possibility. The most likely one indeed. It is also likely that
    it was the Americans who disclosed such information to Iranians. If last month's Mossad behavior was not a goof up but was meant to get that vast operation busted, then it showed Israeli's are siding with Iran on
    matters of missiles carrying any type of warheads that can reach Europe.
    So Americans, to retaliate, are disclosing embarrassing Israeli
    information to Iranians.

    Fact is, before the turn of this century Iran had enough nukes to wipe
    out all 24 American bases around Iran. Half of them were simply
    purchased in early 1990s, and the other half were made locally by
    improving upon them. This was 25 years back!

    Those bases are still there encircling Iran on almost all sides. Iran
    only ceased to develop nukes for a couple of years total, as an
    agreement with Bush regarding the attack on Saddam's Iraq. It only had
    two terms, stopping the developments and not interfering with US
    invasion of Iraq (staying neutral). In return Bush would destroy
    Saddam's regime.

    During any other period until this day today, Iran has been developing
    more and more of them. It is a known fact too. There are waves after
    waves of Iranians retiring from spending all their careers on making
    nukes in Iran! So who's kidding who here. Hundreds of physicists alone
    among them.

    Here's a clue. By 2015 European countries had become 100% Bitches of
    USA, totally subjugated to Americans' wishes. This made them aware that
    now they're also targets if USA gets rude with Iran. Iran's missiles
    back then could only reach Germany, but that's the known part of this.
    The real range, especially by now, is a secret. But the threat of
    getting nuked by Iran was so intensely felt by Europeans that they
    pressed / cooperated with USA to remove sanctions on Iran so peace and
    business would overwhelm the threats.

    But the problem was, Europeans were the only ones who felt more secure
    after that deal; those 24 American bases around Iran remained primary
    targets of getting wiped in less than half hour should Iran get prompted
    in some way. So Trump wanted the deal gone because only Europeans were benefitting from it. He never gave a damn about them or "NATO" and was
    pissed indeed that Americans were spending their own resources
    protecting them. So the deal was thrown away, which helped Iran gear up
    again the never ceasing the rush to develop better and more nukes.

    And future of Israel is only through Iran. Like Pakestan's,
    Afghanestan's, all the Caucasus little countries, in fact any country in
    the Middle East and west Asia, including Israel and Turkey. There's only
    Iran there. To the east of her is India, to the north, Russia, and to
    the west is Europe, and to the south is Africa. There's nothing else
    there! West has _nobody_ in that entire region that they didn't lose by mistakes and arrogance, long ago.

    Carter's wish had coincided with some freak situation in Iran's history;
    that's how it turned out successful. But the process cannot be stopped
    forever. His "another Japan the size of the entire Middle East" will
    come again and this time no freak in the world will be there to stop it.
    Israel knows that. That's why they sided with Iran last month.

    That's why these strange documents found their ways into Iran. Some side
    other than Iranians in Israel were more pissed than such Iranians. So
    this is also a strong probability.

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  • From J@21:1/5 to Clutterfreak on Wed Oct 4 22:16:35 2023
    Mis sa veiderdad siin ?


    On Friday, May 13, 2022 at 4:43:41 AM UTC+3, Clutterfreak wrote:
    I know you Americans and Europeans have been fucked up a few million
    times too often to put much weight into what your heads of state or politicians tell you. But Russians are no Americans. When they say something, you can bet your fucked up ego on it that they mean it.

    Russians today said their positions on two matters have changed as a
    result of how the war in Ukraine has been handled by EU.

    1- "NATO" countries aren't any more the only threat and the focus for Russia. EU itself is the threat and is no different from what "NATO" countries have stood for.

    2- Terms of stopping the war in Ukraine has changed now. Even if Ukraine succumbs to Russia's previous terms and promises to stay away from NATO, matters of security of Russia aren't resolved far enough to end this
    war. Now Ukraine must also promise to never become part of EU. Only
    then, this war will end.

    So, you Europeans fucked it up. You do that, don't you. You've been
    doing it for centuries now. You know, since those large scale unforeseen events saved you as an earlier form of human species and gave you
    another chance, you've been busy doing it, fucking things up.



    --
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  • From Physfitfreak@21:1/5 to All on Fri Oct 6 04:41:37 2023
    I just saw the launch of Nur-3 satellite and it made my day this
    wonderful morning. This is from last week's third launching of imaging satellites into orbit by Iran's militia forces.

    https://streamable.com/foqam5

    All three launches in the past three years have worked perfectly. Not a
    glitch left. First one was in 2020. The rocket used is Ghased.

    So, as far as Iran's defense related satellites are concerned, now it is satellites "forever" (copyright Starmaker) :-) Gone are the days Iran
    had to ask adversaries to obtain high resolution images after
    earthquakes, floods, etc.

    Ghased uses three components, the design of one of which (last stage) is
    not disclosed (possible nuke related stuff). But the first (Ghadr) and
    second (Salman) stages are well known components that have worked
    flawlessly before.

    It is a small rocket, overall. Solid fuel. This is intentional, cause it
    has other uses too :) Hehe :) Ease of deployment, ease of movement, etc.

    And the mastery in the militia to rival the regular military can be seen
    in their flawless equipments they've developed. There are so many of
    them now. All types. Gee, no wonder you don't see any young newly
    arrived Iranians around yourselves anymore :) What a relief, huh? :)
    They were making Ross Perot proud of himself, serving his dinner table
    in Dallas restaurants. Now you have plenty many cannibals pouring into
    your communities, straight from heart of Africa!

    Yep, the best of Iranians sure didn't just disappear after those sweet
    days and times of yours.

    Not a single one from Taiwan, China, and India will stay here, when
    slightest shit hits the fan. They know you. They'll leave you behind.
    But you _will_ have the cannibals keep living right beside you. Eying
    you up and down.

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  • From Physfitfreak@21:1/5 to All on Fri Oct 6 21:11:09 2023
    Latest performance by Shahed 136 and the aftermath: (from today's news)

    https://streamable.com/ahwqmb

    https://streamable.com/5gno4f


    As you can hear in the aftermath clip, a bomb explodes in the fire,
    indicating the warehouse hit stored military stuff.

    Early this morning I spoke of Iran's militia's amazing products and
    designs. Shahed is also made by them, but with some collaboration from a semi-private company that was created out of remnants of Bell helicopter factory of Shah's time (late years).

    When the product is sensitive and classified information, it is always
    solely made by the militia. Even kept secret from regular military.
    Other ones, like Shahed 136 aren't that hot at all. In fact they gave
    the entire design and know-how to Houthis years ago to build and use
    them against Saudi Arabia. Then soon after that Israeli Harop appeared
    with same design but with a few meaningless cosmetic additions, so
    ridiculous that the idea could've come from the resident "Vulva" here,
    or from a cartoonist working for a magazine.

    And of course Shahed's design was given to Russians as well based on
    which Gerans were made.

    The militia has products that outdo what Patriots can do. The regular
    military as well have their own designs which are equal or superior to Patriots. And everything is getting better by the end of each day :)
    They're all undergoing all sorts of improvements.

    The jet engined form of Shahed was just unveiled a week or so ago!

    Militia's Shahed 136 can have different payloads. The Gerans, all, have slightly more powerful payloads than regular Shahed's. But Shahed also
    has a payload that is more powerful than all the Geran's. A few of them
    were used in Ukraine and Ukrainian became certain Iran-made products
    were being used against them, cause Russians didn't have any Geran
    matching that level of explosive power.

    I have seen just one video of its action (in Ukraine), made by an
    amateur Ukrainian woman at night inside her dark room looking out the
    window. In the clip you can hear the sound of a Shahed 136 from a long distance, then some time later a quick strong and extremely short flash
    is seen far from her which made her jump, but no more fire or light, but
    the buzz of the Shahed kept going and going. Then some moments later the
    shock wave at last reached the window with a horrible bang and window
    glass gets shattered and the shocked and scared woman begins cursing.
    The explosion was very far away, judged by the time it took for the
    sound to reach here, and yet, was so powerful that shattered her window
    glass. That's the strong type load that I am talking about.

    Those payloads are rarely ever used now. Probably cost much higher.

    If I stumble upon that video again, I'll sure make a copy :) I should've
    made a copy then, last year, but didn't know that the event was a
    special one.

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  • From Physfitfreak@21:1/5 to All on Sat Oct 7 06:30:32 2023
    Looks like Americans are indeed punishing Israel these days in every way
    they can. Somebody has given Palestinians this morning green light to
    attack Israel straight on via land, air (powered paragliders!), and sea. They've used bulldozers to open wholes in the walls around Gaza Strip
    and simply drove into Israel by motorcycles and trucks full of
    Palestinian soldiers. Lot's of videos taken from both sides are in the
    media right now (especially Telegram).

    Americans wouldn't do this to Israel if last month bust of Iranian
    missile parts was a goof up. They _would_ do this if it was a deliberate
    goof up though.

    This is Israeli commander in chief of special forces, Nimrod Aloni,
    captured this morning by Palestinians right inside his house while
    asleep! How would they know where he was, and why nothing was in the way
    of Palestinians to his house? I think this is USA facilitating it.

    https://i.postimg.cc/YSh8LxGh/Nimrod-Aloni.jpg

    And I think all this is pointing to the fact that indeed last month's
    Mossad goof up was in fact not a goof up! But deliberate.

    Another clue pointing to it is that forces around Israel under the
    influence of Iranians have not participated in this attack! This is very
    fishy and very interesting :)

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  • From Physfitfreak@21:1/5 to Physfitfreak on Sat Oct 7 06:41:14 2023
    On 10/7/2023 6:30 AM, Physfitfreak wrote:
    Looks like Americans are indeed punishing Israel these days in every way
    they can. Somebody has given Palestinians this morning green light to
    attack Israel straight on via land, air (powered paragliders!), and sea. They've used bulldozers to open wholes in the walls around Gaza Strip
    and simply drove into Israel by motorcycles and trucks full of
    Palestinian soldiers. Lot's of videos taken from both sides are in the
    media right now (especially Telegram).

    Americans wouldn't do this to Israel if last month bust of Iranian
    missile parts was a goof up. They _would_ do this if it was a deliberate
    goof up though.

    This is Israeli commander in chief of special forces, Nimrod Aloni,
    captured this morning by Palestinians right inside his house while
    asleep! How would they know where he was, and why nothing was in the way
    of Palestinians to his house? I think this is USA facilitating it.

    https://i.postimg.cc/YSh8LxGh/Nimrod-Aloni.jpg

    And I think all this is pointing to the fact that indeed last month's
    Mossad goof up was in fact not a goof up! But deliberate.

    Another clue pointing to it is that forces around Israel under the
    influence of Iranians have not participated in this attack! This is very fishy and very interesting :)








    This is not Ukraine! This is Israel this morning. Palestinian drones are throwing grenades on Israeli soldiers.

    https://streamable.com/4z6zzm

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  • From Physfitfreak@21:1/5 to All on Tue Nov 14 01:32:20 2023
    Who saw this annular eclipse last month? :)

    https://streamable.com/ca8x4w

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  • From Physfitfreak@21:1/5 to Physfitfreak on Tue Nov 14 18:14:43 2023
    On 11/14/2023 1:32 AM, Physfitfreak wrote:

    Who saw this annular eclipse last month? :)

    https://streamable.com/ca8x4w




    Check out those mass ejections from the corona. Earth's size compared to
    Sun is like a millet seed to a watermelon. The mass ejected in many of
    those flares is several time that of the Earth. And that's only by the
    EM force.

    When I once mentioned that with usch force one could move the Moon, the resident "engineers" thought I had smoked something. Very typical of them.

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  • From Physfitfreak@21:1/5 to Physfitfreak on Tue Nov 14 18:34:25 2023
    On 11/14/2023 6:14 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:
    On 11/14/2023 1:32 AM, Physfitfreak wrote:

    Who saw this annular eclipse last month? :)

    https://streamable.com/ca8x4w




    Check out those mass ejections from the corona. Earth's size compared to
    Sun is like a millet seed to a watermelon. The mass ejected in many of
    those flares is several time that of the Earth. And that's only by the
    EM force.

    When I once mentioned that with usch force one could move the Moon, the resident "engineers" thought I had smoked something. Very typical of them.






    The entire crossing of the Moon across the sun takes no more than a
    couple of hours. Say 2 hrs. In the accelerated time of the video, the
    Moon crosses in 52 seconds. So time is accelerated by a factore of 138.
    So one second for the ejection seen in the video means only 138 actual
    seconds! In 138 seconds, a mass, several times greater than the Earth's,
    is thrown several Earth diameters away from the sun. Imagine the speed!
    The force involved..

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  • From Physfitfreak@21:1/5 to Physfitfreak on Tue Nov 14 19:48:23 2023
    On 11/14/2023 6:34 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:
    On 11/14/2023 6:14 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:
    On 11/14/2023 1:32 AM, Physfitfreak wrote:

    Who saw this annular eclipse last month? :)

    https://streamable.com/ca8x4w




    Check out those mass ejections from the corona. Earth's size compared
    to Sun is like a millet seed to a watermelon. The mass ejected in many
    of those flares is several time that of the Earth. And that's only by
    the EM force.

    When I once mentioned that with usch force one could move the Moon,
    the resident "engineers" thought I had smoked something. Very typical
    of them.






    The entire crossing of the Moon across the sun takes no more than a
    couple of hours. Say 2 hrs. In the accelerated time of the video, the
    Moon crosses in 52 seconds. So time is accelerated by a factore of 138.
    So one second for the ejection seen in the video means only 138 actual seconds! In 138 seconds, a mass, several times greater than the Earth's,
    is thrown several Earth diameters away from the sun. Imagine the speed!
    The force involved..




    And this is at Sun's surface, not the Earth :) Under such gravity force, throwing that much mass, at that speed, up and away from surface is just inconceivable.

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  • From Arindam Banerjee@21:1/5 to Physfitfreak on Tue Nov 14 21:53:57 2023
    On Wednesday, 15 November 2023 at 12:48:29 UTC+11, Physfitfreak wrote:
    On 11/14/2023 6:34 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:
    On 11/14/2023 6:14 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:
    On 11/14/2023 1:32 AM, Physfitfreak wrote:

    Who saw this annular eclipse last month? :)

    https://streamable.com/ca8x4w




    Check out those mass ejections from the corona. Earth's size compared
    to Sun is like a millet seed to a watermelon. The mass ejected in many
    of those flares is several time that of the Earth. And that's only by
    the EM force.

    When I once mentioned that with usch force one could move the Moon,
    the resident "engineers" thought I had smoked something. Very typical
    of them.






    The entire crossing of the Moon across the sun takes no more than a
    couple of hours. Say 2 hrs. In the accelerated time of the video, the
    Moon crosses in 52 seconds. So time is accelerated by a factore of 138.
    So one second for the ejection seen in the video means only 138 actual seconds! In 138 seconds, a mass, several times greater than the Earth's,
    is thrown several Earth diameters away from the sun. Imagine the speed!
    The force involved..


    And this is at Sun's surface, not the Earth :) Under such gravity force, throwing that much mass, at that speed, up and away from surface is just inconceivable.

    Scattering pearls before swine:
    (I am not Christian!)

    The way the universe operates:

    The cause of gravity https://groups.google.com/g/sci.physics/c/mmigkl3yZYc/m/8Rs16NCXAAAJ

    Explaining the nova and supernova phenomena with new physics theories - 1 https://groups.google.com/g/sci.physics/c/6UIGDNHH7n0/m/U0t-kYqgAAAJ

    Explaining the nova and supernova phenomena with new physics theories - 2 https://groups.google.com/g/sci.physics/c/CffbGTXV72c/m/5ONP6J6gAAAJ

    Learn, Roachie, learn. :-)

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  • From Physfitfreak@21:1/5 to Physfitfreak on Wed Nov 15 01:02:15 2023
    On 11/14/2023 7:48 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:
    On 11/14/2023 6:34 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:
    On 11/14/2023 6:14 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:
    On 11/14/2023 1:32 AM, Physfitfreak wrote:

    Who saw this annular eclipse last month? :)

    https://streamable.com/ca8x4w




    Check out those mass ejections from the corona. Earth's size compared
    to Sun is like a millet seed to a watermelon. The mass ejected in
    many of those flares is several time that of the Earth. And that's
    only by the EM force.

    When I once mentioned that with usch force one could move the Moon,
    the resident "engineers" thought I had smoked something. Very typical
    of them.






    The entire crossing of the Moon across the sun takes no more than a
    couple of hours. Say 2 hrs. In the accelerated time of the video, the
    Moon crosses in 52 seconds. So time is accelerated by a factore of
    138. So one second for the ejection seen in the video means only 138
    actual seconds! In 138 seconds, a mass, several times greater than the
    Earth's, is thrown several Earth diameters away from the sun. Imagine
    the speed! The force involved..




    And this is at Sun's surface, not the Earth :) Under such gravity force, throwing that much mass, at that speed, up and away from surface is just inconceivable.


    Check out this one. Look at the size of it. At least 20 times the mass
    of Earth is thrown around like it's nothing.

    https://streamable.com/tgckzx

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  • From Physfitfreak@21:1/5 to Physfitfreak on Wed Nov 15 21:59:04 2023
    On 11/15/2023 1:02 AM, Physfitfreak wrote:
    On 11/14/2023 7:48 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:
    On 11/14/2023 6:34 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:
    On 11/14/2023 6:14 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:
    On 11/14/2023 1:32 AM, Physfitfreak wrote:

    Who saw this annular eclipse last month? :)

    https://streamable.com/ca8x4w




    Check out those mass ejections from the corona. Earth's size
    compared to Sun is like a millet seed to a watermelon. The mass
    ejected in many of those flares is several time that of the Earth.
    And that's only by the EM force.

    When I once mentioned that with usch force one could move the Moon,
    the resident "engineers" thought I had smoked something. Very
    typical of them.






    The entire crossing of the Moon across the sun takes no more than a
    couple of hours. Say 2 hrs. In the accelerated time of the video, the
    Moon crosses in 52 seconds. So time is accelerated by a factore of
    138. So one second for the ejection seen in the video means only 138
    actual seconds! In 138 seconds, a mass, several times greater than
    the Earth's, is thrown several Earth diameters away from the sun.
    Imagine the speed! The force involved..




    And this is at Sun's surface, not the Earth :) Under such gravity
    force, throwing that much mass, at that speed, up and away from
    surface is just inconceivable.


    Check out this one. Look at the size of it. At least 20 times the mass
    of Earth is thrown around like it's nothing.

    https://streamable.com/tgckzx




    They say Sun loses mass at the rate of 4.26 million tons per second. I
    wonder if this includes loss by ejections as well, or it's just the
    hydrogen to Helium conversions.

    Look at this mass ejection!

    https://streamable.com/iq0dmk

    Probably a 100 Earth mass ejection in only that event.

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  • From Physfitfreak@21:1/5 to Physfitfreak on Thu Nov 16 21:04:49 2023
    On 11/15/2023 9:59 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:
    On 11/15/2023 1:02 AM, Physfitfreak wrote:
    On 11/14/2023 7:48 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:
    On 11/14/2023 6:34 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:
    On 11/14/2023 6:14 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:
    On 11/14/2023 1:32 AM, Physfitfreak wrote:

    Who saw this annular eclipse last month? :)

    https://streamable.com/ca8x4w




    Check out those mass ejections from the corona. Earth's size
    compared to Sun is like a millet seed to a watermelon. The mass
    ejected in many of those flares is several time that of the Earth.
    And that's only by the EM force.

    When I once mentioned that with usch force one could move the Moon,
    the resident "engineers" thought I had smoked something. Very
    typical of them.






    The entire crossing of the Moon across the sun takes no more than a
    couple of hours. Say 2 hrs. In the accelerated time of the video,
    the Moon crosses in 52 seconds. So time is accelerated by a factore
    of 138. So one second for the ejection seen in the video means only
    138 actual seconds! In 138 seconds, a mass, several times greater
    than the Earth's, is thrown several Earth diameters away from the
    sun. Imagine the speed! The force involved..




    And this is at Sun's surface, not the Earth :) Under such gravity
    force, throwing that much mass, at that speed, up and away from
    surface is just inconceivable.


    Check out this one. Look at the size of it. At least 20 times the mass
    of Earth is thrown around like it's nothing.

    https://streamable.com/tgckzx




    They say Sun loses mass at the rate of 4.26 million tons per second. I
    wonder if this includes loss by ejections as well, or it's just the
    hydrogen to Helium conversions.

    Look at this mass ejection!

    https://streamable.com/iq0dmk

    Probably a 100 Earth mass ejection in only that event.


    Herschel (the scientist who found Uranus planet) believed inside the Sun
    was populated with humans! ... Also claimed he had seen "ample evidence"
    of people living on the Moon. In fact he believed all other planets were populated with humans.

    The spirit of having found a "new world" with people living in it, on
    the other side of the Earth, must've still been roaming :) He was sure
    if they look more, they'll discover more and more people living in areas
    of the solar system that they hadn't visited yet.

    He kept making bigger and bigger telescopes in search of other
    civilization. Driven by that passion, he'd become an ardent telescope
    maker. An extremely tough job in those days for the bigger ones.

    He's the one who began tabulating sunspots over many years, but it
    happened that in those years sunspots were few, so he didn't discover
    the 11 year cycle of sunspot activity.

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  • From Physfitfreak@21:1/5 to Physfitfreak on Fri Nov 17 19:31:07 2023
    On 11/14/2023 6:14 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:
    On 11/14/2023 1:32 AM, Physfitfreak wrote:

    Who saw this annular eclipse last month? :)

    https://streamable.com/ca8x4w




    Check out those mass ejections from the corona. Earth's size compared to
    Sun is like a millet seed to a watermelon. The mass ejected in many of
    those flares is several time that of the Earth. And that's only by the
    EM force.

    When I once mentioned that with usch force one could move the Moon, the resident "engineers" thought I had smoked something. Very typical of them.






    Ejection takes place at time-stamp 1:05 from approximately 8 o'clock
    direction on the Sun.

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  • From Nobody@21:1/5 to Physfitfreak on Thu May 30 23:43:56 2024
    On 5/26/2024 5:31 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:


    Ok, ... The realities have begun to seep out in this strange struggle.

    Looks like the incident with Iran's President and Foreign Minister has
    been a calculated one. They had caused the failure in seizing the opportunities offered by China to be part of their long-term future
    supplier of oil. China preferred the independent Iran over Saudi Arabia,
    but Raisi's administration proved to be unresponsive to China's efforts.

    This was the biggest issue for this administration to deal with, because Iran's decision-making structure itself is divided over such long-term futures. About half of them, the traditional West-leaning thinkers (I'm
    going to call them Conservatives although that's not how they're named
    in Iran), think that Iran is safer with major relations with known and well-studied culprit superpowers than with the new inexperienced China.
    The other half, the risk-takers (I'll call them Progressives, again
    despite they being called in Iran quite differently), think exactly the opposite.

    This administration began work _seemingly_ with the intention to satisfy
    the Progressives and people backing them. That's how they won the
    elections. All my folks in Iran, practically anyone I'm still in touch
    with, had changed side for that and voted for Raisi's admin exactly for
    the purpose of cutting ties with Nazis and Global Pests. But in action,
    this admin proved they were serving the Conservative side in Iran.
    Result is that China went to their second option, the Saudis, and began creating that "Oil City" (or whatever they call it) with them, and
    placed their remaining eggs as far as oil was concerned inside that
    basket. This admin _let_ the chance go.

    When the Progressives realized that the chance was gone, they got rid of
    the culprits that had fooled them. Probably a tiny little bomb somewhere inside the helicopter where the pilots were. Too little to cause
    destruction of the helicopter, but enough to cause the pilots to lose
    the controls for a few seconds.

    Conservatives aren't and weren't that fool to have decided to act that
    way regarding China's offer. Their logic is like, "Let's have Saudi
    Arabia test China, not Iran." This has two important advantages of
    course. It keeps Iran safe from unknown future behavior of China. And it provides several steps for Saudi Arabia to walk into that new pathway,
    _away_ from Nazis and Global Pests. So this type of thinking points to a quite _regional_ way of seeing the future, not a way just for Iran. It
    might be the correct view too. And they _did_ act according to that view also.

    But Progressives want to leave Nazis and Global Pests behind and
    forever, with _any_ risk or even cost involved. They wanted to get what
    China had offered to Iran.

    China's need for oil is huge. Russia alone, which has sold even the
    future 30 years of its oil to China, cannot and couldn't satisfy the
    demand. China needed more, and Iranian Progressives wanted to get the contracts for the remaining Chinese demands for oil. They did everything
    for that, even changed sides and voted for such promises. But Raisis
    team promised that and then slowly let it go to Saudis, not Iran.
    Essentially doing exactly what the Conservative camp wanted.

    But what good would a little bomb the size of a cigarette lighter do? It looks, at first, to be doing nothing. But without doubt, it also talks
    to the Conservative side. "You fool the Iranians, you die!"

    So next time, for important Iranian issues, Conservatives will know in advance that it would be their lives if they commit to such
    Machiavellian methods and intrigues.

    You can do that all the time to people in the USA and Europe, and get
    away with them too. But in Iran, fooling people in such deceptive ways
    costs your life.

    That's what happened.

    Note that neither deals with China, nor complete loss of such
    opportunities, are totally over for Iran. In fact Iranians are now busy
    to place their own men in there to push Iran towards increasing
    relations with China. The big deal has now gone to Saudi Arabia, but the
    rest of opportunities are there to jump on.

    Nazis and Global Pests have always been better for the Conservatives in
    Iran. This isn't anything new. They know each other very well. They have decades and decades of experience in that. Both sides. Nothing is
    totally unknown about them. But Iranians want more, cause they're not
    happy. It doesn't provide enough for them. And as you see, they'll
    literally kill you if you keep blocking them while saying otherwise.



    It was Mossad. Everyone knows it was Mossad. They're just getting even
    for that missile barrage, even though that barrage made Iran the
    laughing stock of the world and revenge was really unnecessary.

    Regardless, hell has a new devil in it.

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