• 'If the facts don't fit the theory, change the facts.'

    From The Starmaker@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jul 20 10:15:05 2023
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    News University
    Stanford president resigns over manipulated research, will retract at least three papers
    Marc Tessier-Lavigne failed to address manipulated papers, fostered unhealthy lab dynamic, Stanford report says
    https://stanforddaily.com/2023/07/19/stanford-president-resigns-over-manipulated-research-will-retract-at-least-3-papers/

    investigation found manipulation of research data.

    "The report concluded that the fudging of results under Tessier-Lavignes purview spanned labs at three separate institutions.
    It identified a culture where Tessier-Lavigne tended to reward the winners (that is, postdocs who could generate favorable results) and
    marginalize or diminish the losers (that is, postdocs who were unable or struggled to generate such data).

    "For several papers worthy of retraction to have been principally authored by the same scientist represents unusual frequency of
    manipulation of research data and/or substandard scientific practices, " (pattern of racketteering)

    ""In the report, the scientific panel raised questions about allegations of fraud in a major 2009 Alzheimers study that claimed to
    have found the cause of neurodegeneration in Alzheimers patients and was publicly called the most important discovery in Alzheimers in
    the last 20 years, maybe ever by former Genentech executive Richard Scheller."" (follow the money)

    "...contain doctored imagery..."

    https://stanforddaily.com/2023/07/19/stanford-president-resigns-over-manipulated-research-will-retract-at-least-3-papers/


    https://boardoftrustees.stanford.edu/wp-content/uploads/sites/5/2023/07/Scientific-Panel-Final-Report.pdf




    'If the facts don't fit the theory, change the facts.' -Albert Einstein

    --
    The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
    to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge
    the unchallengeable.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Sylvia Else@21:1/5 to The Starmaker on Sat Jul 22 08:44:20 2023
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    On 21-July-23 3:15 am, The Starmaker wrote:
    News • University
    Stanford president resigns over manipulated research, will retract at least three papers
    Marc Tessier-Lavigne failed to address manipulated papers, fostered unhealthy lab dynamic, Stanford report says
    https://stanforddaily.com/2023/07/19/stanford-president-resigns-over-manipulated-research-will-retract-at-least-3-papers/

    investigation found “manipulation of research data.”

    "The report concluded that the fudging of results under Tessier-Lavigne’s purview “spanned labs at three separate institutions.”
    It identified a culture where Tessier-Lavigne “tended to reward the ‘winners’ (that is, postdocs who could generate favorable results) and
    marginalize or diminish the ‘losers’ (that is, postdocs who were unable or struggled to generate such data).”

    "For several papers worthy of retraction to have been principally authored by the same scientist represents “unusual frequency of
    manipulation of research data and/or substandard scientific practices,” " (pattern of racketteering)

    ""In the report, the scientific panel raised questions about allegations of fraud in a major 2009 Alzheimer’s study that claimed to
    have found the cause of neurodegeneration in Alzheimer’s patients and was publicly called “the most important discovery in Alzheimer’s in
    the last 20 years, maybe ever” by former Genentech executive Richard Scheller."" (follow the money)

    "...contain doctored imagery..."

    https://stanforddaily.com/2023/07/19/stanford-president-resigns-over-manipulated-research-will-retract-at-least-3-papers/


    https://boardoftrustees.stanford.edu/wp-content/uploads/sites/5/2023/07/Scientific-Panel-Final-Report.pdf




    'If the facts don't fit the theory, change the facts.' -Albert Einstein


    He never said that.

    Sylvia.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Volney@21:1/5 to Sylvia Else on Fri Jul 21 19:10:58 2023
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    On 7/21/2023 6:44 PM, Sylvia Else wrote:
    On 21-July-23 3:15 am, The Starmaker wrote:
    News • University
    Stanford president resigns over manipulated research, will retract at
    least three papers
    Marc Tessier-Lavigne failed to address manipulated papers, fostered
    unhealthy lab dynamic, Stanford report says
    https://stanforddaily.com/2023/07/19/stanford-president-resigns-over-manipulated-research-will-retract-at-least-3-papers/

    investigation found “manipulation of research data.”

    "The report concluded that the fudging of results under
    Tessier-Lavigne’s purview “spanned labs at three separate institutions.”
    It identified a culture where Tessier-Lavigne “tended to reward the
    ‘winners’ (that is, postdocs who could generate favorable results) and >> marginalize or diminish the ‘losers’ (that is, postdocs who were
    unable or struggled to generate such data).”

    "For several papers worthy of retraction to have been principally
    authored by the same scientist represents “unusual frequency of
    manipulation of research data and/or substandard scientific
    practices,” "    (pattern of racketteering)

    ""In the report, the scientific panel raised questions about
    allegations of fraud in a major 2009 Alzheimer’s study that claimed to
    have found the cause of neurodegeneration in Alzheimer’s patients and
    was publicly called “the most important discovery in Alzheimer’s in
      the last 20 years, maybe ever” by former Genentech executive Richard
    Scheller.""   (follow the money)

    "...contain doctored imagery..."

    https://stanforddaily.com/2023/07/19/stanford-president-resigns-over-manipulated-research-will-retract-at-least-3-papers/


    https://boardoftrustees.stanford.edu/wp-content/uploads/sites/5/2023/07/Scientific-Panel-Final-Report.pdf




    'If the facts don't fit the theory, change the facts.' -Albert Einstein


    He never said that.

    The facts didn't fit Starfarter's theory so he changed the facts.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Sylvia Else@21:1/5 to Volney on Sat Jul 22 09:17:00 2023
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    On 22-July-23 9:10 am, Volney wrote:
    On 7/21/2023 6:44 PM, Sylvia Else wrote:
    On 21-July-23 3:15 am, The Starmaker wrote:
    News • University
    Stanford president resigns over manipulated research, will retract at
    least three papers
    Marc Tessier-Lavigne failed to address manipulated papers, fostered
    unhealthy lab dynamic, Stanford report says
    https://stanforddaily.com/2023/07/19/stanford-president-resigns-over-manipulated-research-will-retract-at-least-3-papers/

    investigation found “manipulation of research data.”

    "The report concluded that the fudging of results under
    Tessier-Lavigne’s purview “spanned labs at three separate institutions.”
    It identified a culture where Tessier-Lavigne “tended to reward the
    ‘winners’ (that is, postdocs who could generate favorable results) and >>> marginalize or diminish the ‘losers’ (that is, postdocs who were
    unable or struggled to generate such data).”

    "For several papers worthy of retraction to have been principally
    authored by the same scientist represents “unusual frequency of
    manipulation of research data and/or substandard scientific
    practices,” "    (pattern of racketteering)

    ""In the report, the scientific panel raised questions about
    allegations of fraud in a major 2009 Alzheimer’s study that claimed to >>> have found the cause of neurodegeneration in Alzheimer’s patients and
    was publicly called “the most important discovery in Alzheimer’s in
      the last 20 years, maybe ever” by former Genentech executive
    Richard Scheller.""   (follow the money)

    "...contain doctored imagery..."

    https://stanforddaily.com/2023/07/19/stanford-president-resigns-over-manipulated-research-will-retract-at-least-3-papers/


    https://boardoftrustees.stanford.edu/wp-content/uploads/sites/5/2023/07/Scientific-Panel-Final-Report.pdf




    'If the facts don't fit the theory, change the facts.' -Albert Einstein


    He never said that.

    The facts didn't fit Starfarter's theory so he changed the facts.


    :)

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From The Starmaker@21:1/5 to Sylvia Else on Fri Jul 21 20:39:25 2023
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    Sylvia Else wrote:

    On 21-July-23 3:15 am, The Starmaker wrote:
    News • University
    Stanford president resigns over manipulated research, will retract at least three papers
    Marc Tessier-Lavigne failed to address manipulated papers, fostered unhealthy lab dynamic, Stanford report says
    https://stanforddaily.com/2023/07/19/stanford-president-resigns-over-manipulated-research-will-retract-at-least-3-papers/

    investigation found “manipulation of research data.”

    "The report concluded that the fudging of results under Tessier-Lavigne’s purview “spanned labs at three separate institutions.”
    It identified a culture where Tessier-Lavigne “tended to reward the ‘winners’ (that is, postdocs who could generate favorable results) and
    marginalize or diminish the ‘losers’ (that is, postdocs who were unable or struggled to generate such data).”

    "For several papers worthy of retraction to have been principally authored by the same scientist represents “unusual frequency of
    manipulation of research data and/or substandard scientific practices,” " (pattern of racketteering)

    ""In the report, the scientific panel raised questions about allegations of fraud in a major 2009 Alzheimer’s study that claimed to
    have found the cause of neurodegeneration in Alzheimer’s patients and was publicly called “the most important discovery in Alzheimer’s in
    the last 20 years, maybe ever” by former Genentech executive Richard Scheller."" (follow the money)

    "...contain doctored imagery..."

    https://stanforddaily.com/2023/07/19/stanford-president-resigns-over-manipulated-research-will-retract-at-least-3-papers/


    https://boardoftrustees.stanford.edu/wp-content/uploads/sites/5/2023/07/Scientific-Panel-Final-Report.pdf




    'If the facts don't fit the theory, change the facts.' -Albert Einstein


    He never said that.

    Sylvia.


    Are you saying it is not characteristic of Albert Einstein to say: 'If the facts don't fit the theory, change the facts.'

    or do you attributed it to someone else? Who then if not Albert Einsten????



    The name "Sylvia Else" sounds like it contain a doctored imagery...Does "Else' mean someone Else? Or are you a Usenet Trans...from guy to girl?? or something else...


    Stanford's president Marc Tessier-Lavigne is still a FRAUD. A crook.


    The fact is...The Hebrew University of Jerusalem associated that quote to Albert Einstein. Are they wrong? (and they published it in a book associating that exact quote to Albert Einstein:


    'If the facts don't fit the theory, change the facts.'














    --
    The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
    to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge
    the unchallengeable.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From The Starmaker@21:1/5 to The Starmaker on Fri Jul 21 21:23:09 2023
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    The Starmaker wrote:

    Sylvia Else wrote:

    On 21-July-23 3:15 am, The Starmaker wrote:
    News • University
    Stanford president resigns over manipulated research, will retract at least three papers
    Marc Tessier-Lavigne failed to address manipulated papers, fostered unhealthy lab dynamic, Stanford report says
    https://stanforddaily.com/2023/07/19/stanford-president-resigns-over-manipulated-research-will-retract-at-least-3-papers/

    investigation found “manipulation of research data.”

    "The report concluded that the fudging of results under Tessier-Lavigne’s purview “spanned labs at three separate institutions.”
    It identified a culture where Tessier-Lavigne “tended to reward the ‘winners’ (that is, postdocs who could generate favorable results) and
    marginalize or diminish the ‘losers’ (that is, postdocs who were unable or struggled to generate such data).”

    "For several papers worthy of retraction to have been principally authored by the same scientist represents “unusual frequency of
    manipulation of research data and/or substandard scientific practices,” " (pattern of racketteering)

    ""In the report, the scientific panel raised questions about allegations of fraud in a major 2009 Alzheimer’s study that claimed to
    have found the cause of neurodegeneration in Alzheimer’s patients and was publicly called “the most important discovery in Alzheimer’s in
    the last 20 years, maybe ever” by former Genentech executive Richard Scheller."" (follow the money)

    "...contain doctored imagery..."

    https://stanforddaily.com/2023/07/19/stanford-president-resigns-over-manipulated-research-will-retract-at-least-3-papers/


    https://boardoftrustees.stanford.edu/wp-content/uploads/sites/5/2023/07/Scientific-Panel-Final-Report.pdf




    'If the facts don't fit the theory, change the facts.' -Albert Einstein


    He never said that.

    Sylvia.

    Are you saying it is not characteristic of Albert Einstein to say: 'If the facts don't fit the theory, change the facts.'

    or do you attributed it to someone else? Who then if not Albert Einsten????

    The name "Sylvia Else" sounds like it contain a doctored imagery...Does "Else' mean someone Else? Or are you a Usenet Trans...from guy to girl?? or something else...

    Stanford's president Marc Tessier-Lavigne is still a FRAUD. A crook.

    The fact is...The Hebrew University of Jerusalem associated that quote to Albert Einstein. Are they wrong? (and they published it in a book associating that exact quote to Albert Einstein:

    'If the facts don't fit the theory, change the facts.'


    Now, since this is being posted also to a politics newsgroup, I'll add a little politics...

    Nancy Pelosi has a daughter who wrote a book called: Campaign Boot Camp 2.0: Basic Training for Candidates, by Christine Pelosi

    where she uses Albert Einstein's quote to...How To brainwash the voters.






    --
    The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
    to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge
    the unchallengeable.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Arindam Banerjee@21:1/5 to The Starmaker on Sat Jul 22 01:37:16 2023
    On Saturday, 22 July 2023 at 11:38:57 UTC+8, The Starmaker wrote:
    Sylvia Else wrote:

    On 21-July-23 3:15 am, The Starmaker wrote:
    News • University
    Stanford president resigns over manipulated research, will retract at least three papers
    Marc Tessier-Lavigne failed to address manipulated papers, fostered unhealthy lab dynamic, Stanford report says
    https://stanforddaily.com/2023/07/19/stanford-president-resigns-over-manipulated-research-will-retract-at-least-3-papers/

    investigation found “manipulation of research data.”

    "The report concluded that the fudging of results under Tessier-Lavigne’s purview “spanned labs at three separate institutions.”
    It identified a culture where Tessier-Lavigne “tended to reward the ‘winners’ (that is, postdocs who could generate favorable results) and
    marginalize or diminish the ‘losers’ (that is, postdocs who were unable or struggled to generate such data).”

    "For several papers worthy of retraction to have been principally authored by the same scientist represents “unusual frequency of
    manipulation of research data and/or substandard scientific practices,” " (pattern of racketteering)

    ""In the report, the scientific panel raised questions about allegations of fraud in a major 2009 Alzheimer’s study that claimed to
    have found the cause of neurodegeneration in Alzheimer’s patients and was publicly called “the most important discovery in Alzheimer’s in
    the last 20 years, maybe ever” by former Genentech executive Richard Scheller."" (follow the money)

    "...contain doctored imagery..."

    https://stanforddaily.com/2023/07/19/stanford-president-resigns-over-manipulated-research-will-retract-at-least-3-papers/


    https://boardoftrustees.stanford.edu/wp-content/uploads/sites/5/2023/07/Scientific-Panel-Final-Report.pdf




    'If the facts don't fit the theory, change the facts.' -Albert Einstein


    He never said that.

    Sylvia.
    Are you saying it is not characteristic of Albert Einstein to say: 'If the facts don't fit the theory, change the facts.'

    or do you attributed it to someone else? Who then if not Albert Einsten????

    The actions of the chelas (disciples) show the nature of their guru.



    The name "Sylvia Else" sounds like it contain a doctored imagery...Does "Else' mean someone Else? Or are you a Usenet Trans...from guy to girl?? or something else...


    Stanford's president Marc Tessier-Lavigne is still a FRAUD. A crook.


    The fact is...The Hebrew University of Jerusalem associated that quote to Albert Einstein. Are they wrong? (and they published it in a book associating that exact quote to Albert Einstein:
    'If the facts don't fit the theory, change the facts.'
    --
    The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
    to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge
    the unchallengeable.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From The Starmaker@21:1/5 to Volney on Sat Jul 22 11:20:39 2023
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    Volney wrote:

    On 7/21/2023 6:44 PM, Sylvia Else wrote:
    On 21-July-23 3:15 am, The Starmaker wrote:
    News • University
    Stanford president resigns over manipulated research, will retract at
    least three papers
    Marc Tessier-Lavigne failed to address manipulated papers, fostered
    unhealthy lab dynamic, Stanford report says
    https://stanforddaily.com/2023/07/19/stanford-president-resigns-over-manipulated-research-will-retract-at-least-3-papers/

    investigation found “manipulation of research data.”

    "The report concluded that the fudging of results under
    Tessier-Lavigne’s purview “spanned labs at three separate institutions.”
    It identified a culture where Tessier-Lavigne “tended to reward the
    ‘winners’ (that is, postdocs who could generate favorable results) and >> marginalize or diminish the ‘losers’ (that is, postdocs who were
    unable or struggled to generate such data).”

    "For several papers worthy of retraction to have been principally
    authored by the same scientist represents “unusual frequency of
    manipulation of research data and/or substandard scientific
    practices,” " (pattern of racketteering)

    ""In the report, the scientific panel raised questions about
    allegations of fraud in a major 2009 Alzheimer’s study that claimed to >> have found the cause of neurodegeneration in Alzheimer’s patients and
    was publicly called “the most important discovery in Alzheimer’s in
    the last 20 years, maybe ever” by former Genentech executive Richard >> Scheller."" (follow the money)

    "...contain doctored imagery..."

    https://stanforddaily.com/2023/07/19/stanford-president-resigns-over-manipulated-research-will-retract-at-least-3-papers/


    https://boardoftrustees.stanford.edu/wp-content/uploads/sites/5/2023/07/Scientific-Panel-Final-Report.pdf




    'If the facts don't fit the theory, change the facts.' -Albert Einstein


    He never said that.

    The facts didn't fit Starfarter's theory so he changed the facts.


    I didn't change the facts.

    Fact number one: This link points to a book that reads:
    The Ultimate Quotable Einstein
    By Albert Einstein

    https://books.google.com/books?id=A32-DwAAQBAJ&printsec=frontcover&dq=editions:tNFoVCjXVqkC&hl

    Fact number two: copyright by The Hebrew University of Jerusalem and Princeton University.

    Fact number three: The quote is in the book! see page 483

    https://books.google.com/books?id=A32-DwAAQBAJ&pg=PA483&dq=%27#v=onepage&q&f=false


    Now, let's go back to

    Fact #1: The Ultimate Quotable Einstein By Albert Einstein

    Doesn't the words ( By Albert Einstein) mean Albert Einstein is the author of the book entittled:
    The Ultimate Quotable Einstein By Albert Einstein?

    Fact #2 The Hebrew University of Jerusalem and Princeton University certaintly should know better than anyone else.


    Fact #3 IT'S IN THE FUCKING BOOK!!!!


    https://books.google.com/books?id=A32-DwAAQBAJ&pg=PA483&dq=%27#v=onepage&q&f=false



    ALBERT EINSTEIN IS THE FUCKING AUTHOR!!!

    https://books.google.com/books?id=A32-DwAAQBAJ&pg=PA483&dq=%27#v=onepage&q&f=false





    Where did you people go to skool, Stanford University????



    Fudging University!


    'If the fudging don't fit the fudge, fudge the fudging.'






    --
    The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
    to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge
    the unchallengeable.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From mitchrae3323@gmail.com@21:1/5 to Arindam Banerjee on Sat Jul 22 14:32:36 2023
    On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 1:37:19 AM UTC-7, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Saturday, 22 July 2023 at 11:38:57 UTC+8, The Starmaker wrote:
    Sylvia Else wrote:

    On 21-July-23 3:15 am, The Starmaker wrote:
    News • University
    Stanford president resigns over manipulated research, will retract at least three papers
    Marc Tessier-Lavigne failed to address manipulated papers, fostered unhealthy lab dynamic, Stanford report says
    https://stanforddaily.com/2023/07/19/stanford-president-resigns-over-manipulated-research-will-retract-at-least-3-papers/

    investigation found “manipulation of research data.”

    "The report concluded that the fudging of results under Tessier-Lavigne’s purview “spanned labs at three separate institutions.”
    It identified a culture where Tessier-Lavigne “tended to reward the ‘winners’ (that is, postdocs who could generate favorable results) and
    marginalize or diminish the ‘losers’ (that is, postdocs who were unable or struggled to generate such data).”

    "For several papers worthy of retraction to have been principally authored by the same scientist represents “unusual frequency of
    manipulation of research data and/or substandard scientific practices,” " (pattern of racketteering)

    ""In the report, the scientific panel raised questions about allegations of fraud in a major 2009 Alzheimer’s study that claimed to
    have found the cause of neurodegeneration in Alzheimer’s patients and was publicly called “the most important discovery in Alzheimer’s in
    the last 20 years, maybe ever” by former Genentech executive Richard Scheller."" (follow the money)

    "...contain doctored imagery..."

    https://stanforddaily.com/2023/07/19/stanford-president-resigns-over-manipulated-research-will-retract-at-least-3-papers/


    https://boardoftrustees.stanford.edu/wp-content/uploads/sites/5/2023/07/Scientific-Panel-Final-Report.pdf




    'If the facts don't fit the theory, change the facts.' -Albert Einstein


    He never said that.

    He did on last day. He said science was lying.
    The liar lies and it was not Einstein.
    It is science as authority that lies.


    Sylvia.
    Are you saying it is not characteristic of Albert Einstein to say: 'If the facts don't fit the theory, change the facts.'

    or do you attributed it to someone else? Who then if not Albert Einsten????
    The actions of the chelas (disciples) show the nature of their guru.



    The name "Sylvia Else" sounds like it contain a doctored imagery...Does "Else' mean someone Else? Or are you a Usenet Trans...from guy to girl?? or something else...


    Stanford's president Marc Tessier-Lavigne is still a FRAUD. A crook.


    The fact is...The Hebrew University of Jerusalem associated that quote to Albert Einstein. Are they wrong? (and they published it in a book associating that exact quote to Albert Einstein:
    'If the facts don't fit the theory, change the facts.'
    --
    The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
    to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge
    the unchallengeable.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Arindam Banerjee@21:1/5 to The Starmaker on Sat Jul 22 16:34:46 2023
    On Sunday, 23 July 2023 at 02:20:17 UTC+8, The Starmaker wrote:
    Volney wrote:

    On 7/21/2023 6:44 PM, Sylvia Else wrote:
    On 21-July-23 3:15 am, The Starmaker wrote:
    News • University
    Stanford president resigns over manipulated research, will retract at >> least three papers
    Marc Tessier-Lavigne failed to address manipulated papers, fostered
    unhealthy lab dynamic, Stanford report says
    https://stanforddaily.com/2023/07/19/stanford-president-resigns-over-manipulated-research-will-retract-at-least-3-papers/

    investigation found “manipulation of research data.”

    "The report concluded that the fudging of results under
    Tessier-Lavigne’s purview “spanned labs at three separate institutions.”
    It identified a culture where Tessier-Lavigne “tended to reward the >> ‘winners’ (that is, postdocs who could generate favorable results) and
    marginalize or diminish the ‘losers’ (that is, postdocs who were
    unable or struggled to generate such data).”

    "For several papers worthy of retraction to have been principally
    authored by the same scientist represents “unusual frequency of
    manipulation of research data and/or substandard scientific
    practices,” "Â Â Â (pattern of racketteering)

    ""In the report, the scientific panel raised questions about
    allegations of fraud in a major 2009 Alzheimer’s study that claimed to
    have found the cause of neurodegeneration in Alzheimer’s patients and >> was publicly called “the most important discovery in Alzheimer’s in >> Â the last 20 years, maybe ever” by former Genentech executive Richard
    Scheller.""Â Â (follow the money)

    "...contain doctored imagery..."

    https://stanforddaily.com/2023/07/19/stanford-president-resigns-over-manipulated-research-will-retract-at-least-3-papers/


    https://boardoftrustees.stanford.edu/wp-content/uploads/sites/5/2023/07/Scientific-Panel-Final-Report.pdf




    'If the facts don't fit the theory, change the facts.' -Albert Einstein >>

    He never said that.

    The facts didn't fit Starfarter's theory so he changed the facts.
    I didn't change the facts.

    Fact number one: This link points to a book that reads:
    The Ultimate Quotable Einstein
    By Albert Einstein

    https://books.google.com/books?id=A32-DwAAQBAJ&printsec=frontcover&dq=editions:tNFoVCjXVqkC&hl

    Fact number two: copyright by The Hebrew University of Jerusalem and Princeton University.

    Fact number three: The quote is in the book! see page 483

    https://books.google.com/books?id=A32-DwAAQBAJ&pg=PA483&dq=%27#v=onepage&q&f=false


    Now, let's go back to

    Fact #1: The Ultimate Quotable Einstein By Albert Einstein

    Doesn't the words ( By Albert Einstein) mean Albert Einstein is the author of the book entittled:
    The Ultimate Quotable Einstein By Albert Einstein?

    Fact #2 The Hebrew University of Jerusalem and Princeton University certaintly should know better than anyone else.


    Fact #3 IT'S IN THE FUCKING BOOK!!!!


    https://books.google.com/books?id=A32-DwAAQBAJ&pg=PA483&dq=%27#v=onepage&q&f=false



    ALBERT EINSTEIN IS THE FUCKING AUTHOR!!!

    https://books.google.com/books?id=A32-DwAAQBAJ&pg=PA483&dq=%27#v=onepage&q&f=false





    Where did you people go to skool, Stanford University????



    Fudging University!


    'If the fudging don't fit the fudge, fudge the fudging.'
    --
    The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
    to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge
    the unchallengeable.

    Well you lived up to all that this time, Starmaker. Congratulations for your diligence and insight. Most helpful.
    Point in that page you linked is twofold.
    One is that Einstein supports fraud. That is evident from your quote. He , Einstein, is an anti-Sherlock Holmes criminal type, a Moriarty class professor of ridiculous nonsense that poses as scientific theory which to survive must suppress or distort
    facts.
    Second is that he says simple is the highest intelligence. Now that is interesting.
    Well, that way I am simple but not in any super genius negative IQ bullshitting Einsteinian way, with gross abuse of mathematics and lots of sneering putdowns, but as the greatest genius of all time, reducing complexities by sublime simplicity, for
    general and genuine understanding by the honest and intelligent.
    Simple in the Einsteinian sense means making full use of corruption via money and institutions to drill the simple e=mcc equation into the public mind. Cementing that with atom bombs which are based on radioactivity with no connection to this formula
    save as a bad explanation for the energy generated. Which I have explained in the correct simple way, back in 2000 with my formula e=0.5mvvN(N-k).
    Cheers,
    Arindam Banerjee

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  • From mitchrae3323@gmail.com@21:1/5 to Paul Alsing on Sat Jul 22 18:05:36 2023
    On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 5:46:24 PM UTC-7, Paul Alsing wrote:
    On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 2:32:40 PM UTC-7, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 1:37:19 AM UTC-7, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Saturday, 22 July 2023 at 11:38:57 UTC+8, The Starmaker wrote:

    'If the facts don't fit the theory, change the facts.' -Albert Einstein

    He never said that.

    He did on last day.
    Evidence for this claim, Mitch? Got any?

    Einstein had a God. He said the atheists were his problem.
    On his last day he wrote it. But science doesn't want it.

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  • From Paul Alsing@21:1/5 to mitchr...@gmail.com on Sat Jul 22 17:46:21 2023
    On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 2:32:40 PM UTC-7, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 1:37:19 AM UTC-7, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Saturday, 22 July 2023 at 11:38:57 UTC+8, The Starmaker wrote:

    'If the facts don't fit the theory, change the facts.' -Albert Einstein

    He never said that.

    He did on last day.

    Evidence for this claim, Mitch? Got any?

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  • From Paul Alsing@21:1/5 to mitchr...@gmail.com on Sat Jul 22 18:48:25 2023
    On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 6:05:39 PM UTC-7, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 5:46:24 PM UTC-7, Paul Alsing wrote:
    On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 2:32:40 PM UTC-7, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 1:37:19 AM UTC-7, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Saturday, 22 July 2023 at 11:38:57 UTC+8, The Starmaker wrote:

    'If the facts don't fit the theory, change the facts.' -Albert Einstein

    He never said that.

    He did on last day.

    Evidence for this claim, Mitch? Got any?

    Einstein had a God. He said the atheists were his problem.
    On his last day he wrote it. But science doesn't want it.

    I still don't see any evidence, Mitch. I think you are just making this up.

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  • From mitchrae3323@gmail.com@21:1/5 to Paul Alsing on Sat Jul 22 19:07:24 2023
    On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 6:48:28 PM UTC-7, Paul Alsing wrote:
    On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 6:05:39 PM UTC-7, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 5:46:24 PM UTC-7, Paul Alsing wrote:
    On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 2:32:40 PM UTC-7, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 1:37:19 AM UTC-7, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Saturday, 22 July 2023 at 11:38:57 UTC+8, The Starmaker wrote:

    'If the facts don't fit the theory, change the facts.' -Albert Einstein

    He never said that.

    He did on last day.

    Evidence for this claim, Mitch? Got any?

    Einstein had a God. He said the atheists were his problem.
    On his last day he wrote it. But science doesn't want it.
    I still don't see any evidence, Mitch. I think you are just making this up.

    He was not an atheist. Science didn't want that...

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  • From Paul Alsing@21:1/5 to mitchr...@gmail.com on Sat Jul 22 20:27:50 2023
    On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 7:07:28 PM UTC-7, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 6:48:28 PM UTC-7, Paul Alsing wrote:
    On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 6:05:39 PM UTC-7, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 5:46:24 PM UTC-7, Paul Alsing wrote:
    On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 2:32:40 PM UTC-7, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 1:37:19 AM UTC-7, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Saturday, 22 July 2023 at 11:38:57 UTC+8, The Starmaker wrote:

    'If the facts don't fit the theory, change the facts.' -Albert Einstein

    He never said that.

    He did on last day.

    Evidence for this claim, Mitch? Got any?

    Einstein had a God. He said the atheists were his problem.
    On his last day he wrote it. But science doesn't want it.

    I still don't see any evidence, Mitch. I think you are just making this up.

    He was not an atheist. Science didn't want that...

    Focus, Mitch, focus... evidence for your claim... where is it?

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  • From Jim Pennino@21:1/5 to mitchr...@gmail.com on Sat Jul 22 20:44:13 2023
    mitchr...@gmail.com <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 5:46:24 PM UTC-7, Paul Alsing wrote:
    On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 2:32:40 PM UTC-7, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote: >> > On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 1:37:19 AM UTC-7, Arindam Banerjee wrote: >> > > On Saturday, 22 July 2023 at 11:38:57 UTC+8, The Starmaker wrote:

    'If the facts don't fit the theory, change the facts.' -Albert Einstein

    He never said that.

    He did on last day.
    Evidence for this claim, Mitch? Got any?

    Einstein had a God. He said the atheists were his problem.
    On his last day he wrote it. But science doesn't want it.

    On his last day Einstein didn't write anything, moron.

    Why do you make up this silly shit over and over?

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  • From Jim Pennino@21:1/5 to mitchr...@gmail.com on Sat Jul 22 20:42:57 2023
    mitchr...@gmail.com <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> wrote:

    <snip>

    He did on last day. He said science was lying.
    The liar lies and it was not Einstein.
    It is science as authority that lies.


    You are making shit up again, moron.

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  • From The Starmaker@21:1/5 to The Starmaker on Sun Jul 23 10:24:40 2023
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    The Starmaker wrote:

    Volney wrote:

    On 7/21/2023 6:44 PM, Sylvia Else wrote:
    On 21-July-23 3:15 am, The Starmaker wrote:
    News • University
    Stanford president resigns over manipulated research, will retract at
    least three papers
    Marc Tessier-Lavigne failed to address manipulated papers, fostered
    unhealthy lab dynamic, Stanford report says
    https://stanforddaily.com/2023/07/19/stanford-president-resigns-over-manipulated-research-will-retract-at-least-3-papers/

    investigation found “manipulation of research data.”

    "The report concluded that the fudging of results under
    Tessier-Lavigne’s purview “spanned labs at three separate institutions.”
    It identified a culture where Tessier-Lavigne “tended to reward the
    ‘winners’ (that is, postdocs who could generate favorable results) and
    marginalize or diminish the ‘losers’ (that is, postdocs who were
    unable or struggled to generate such data).”

    "For several papers worthy of retraction to have been principally
    authored by the same scientist represents “unusual frequency of
    manipulation of research data and/or substandard scientific
    practices,” " (pattern of racketteering)

    ""In the report, the scientific panel raised questions about
    allegations of fraud in a major 2009 Alzheimer’s study that claimed to >> have found the cause of neurodegeneration in Alzheimer’s patients and >> was publicly called “the most important discovery in Alzheimer’s in >> the last 20 years, maybe ever” by former Genentech executive Richard
    Scheller."" (follow the money)

    "...contain doctored imagery..."

    https://stanforddaily.com/2023/07/19/stanford-president-resigns-over-manipulated-research-will-retract-at-least-3-papers/


    https://boardoftrustees.stanford.edu/wp-content/uploads/sites/5/2023/07/Scientific-Panel-Final-Report.pdf




    'If the facts don't fit the theory, change the facts.' -Albert Einstein >>

    He never said that.

    The facts didn't fit Starfarter's theory so he changed the facts.

    I didn't change the facts.

    Fact number one: This link points to a book that reads:
    The Ultimate Quotable Einstein
    By Albert Einstein

    https://books.google.com/books?id=A32-DwAAQBAJ&printsec=frontcover&dq=editions:tNFoVCjXVqkC&hl

    Fact number two: copyright by The Hebrew University of Jerusalem and Princeton University.

    Fact number three: The quote is in the book! see page 483

    https://books.google.com/books?id=A32-DwAAQBAJ&pg=PA483&dq=%27#v=onepage&q&f=false

    Now, let's go back to

    Fact #1: The Ultimate Quotable Einstein By Albert Einstein

    Doesn't the words ( By Albert Einstein) mean Albert Einstein is the author of the book entittled:
    The Ultimate Quotable Einstein By Albert Einstein?

    Fact #2 The Hebrew University of Jerusalem and Princeton University certaintly should know better than anyone else.

    Fact #3 IT'S IN THE FUCKING BOOK!!!!

    https://books.google.com/books?id=A32-DwAAQBAJ&pg=PA483&dq=%27#v=onepage&q&f=false

    ALBERT EINSTEIN IS THE FUCKING AUTHOR!!!

    https://books.google.com/books?id=A32-DwAAQBAJ&pg=PA483&dq=%27#v=onepage&q&f=false

    Where did you people go to skool, Stanford University????

    Fudging University!

    'If the fudging don't fit the fudge, fudge the fudging.'



    People of the 'scientific community' like Sylvia Else and Volney are just parrots that repeat misinformation.

    People in the 'scientific community' are not even interested in the ...facts.

    Just as a Parrot is not interested in what it repeats...it's just making noise.


    Now, if The Hebrew University of Jerusalem and Princeton University is publishing misinformation, I would like to hear about that.


    But look at the people who publish these books...Fudging Universities and Gangster Religions.





    --
    The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
    to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge
    the unchallengeable.

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  • From Paul Alsing@21:1/5 to The Starmaker on Sun Jul 23 12:32:20 2023
    On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 10:24:18 AM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
    The Starmaker wrote:

    Volney wrote:

    On 7/21/2023 6:44 PM, Sylvia Else wrote:
    On 21-July-23 3:15 am, The Starmaker wrote:
    News • University
    Stanford president resigns over manipulated research, will retract at >> least three papers
    Marc Tessier-Lavigne failed to address manipulated papers, fostered >> unhealthy lab dynamic, Stanford report says
    https://stanforddaily.com/2023/07/19/stanford-president-resigns-over-manipulated-research-will-retract-at-least-3-papers/

    investigation found “manipulation of research data.”

    "The report concluded that the fudging of results under
    Tessier-Lavigne’s purview “spanned labs at three separate institutions.”
    It identified a culture where Tessier-Lavigne “tended to reward the >> ‘winners’ (that is, postdocs who could generate favorable results) and
    marginalize or diminish the ‘losers’ (that is, postdocs who were >> unable or struggled to generate such data).”

    "For several papers worthy of retraction to have been principally
    authored by the same scientist represents “unusual frequency of
    manipulation of research data and/or substandard scientific
    practices,” "Â Â Â (pattern of racketteering)

    ""In the report, the scientific panel raised questions about
    allegations of fraud in a major 2009 Alzheimer’s study that claimed to
    have found the cause of neurodegeneration in Alzheimer’s patients and
    was publicly called “the most important discovery in Alzheimer’s in
    Â the last 20 years, maybe ever” by former Genentech executive Richard
    Scheller.""Â Â (follow the money)

    "...contain doctored imagery..."

    https://stanforddaily.com/2023/07/19/stanford-president-resigns-over-manipulated-research-will-retract-at-least-3-papers/


    https://boardoftrustees.stanford.edu/wp-content/uploads/sites/5/2023/07/Scientific-Panel-Final-Report.pdf




    'If the facts don't fit the theory, change the facts.' -Albert Einstein


    He never said that.

    The facts didn't fit Starfarter's theory so he changed the facts.

    I didn't change the facts.

    Fact number one: This link points to a book that reads:
    The Ultimate Quotable Einstein
    By Albert Einstein

    https://books.google.com/books?id=A32-DwAAQBAJ&printsec=frontcover&dq=editions:tNFoVCjXVqkC&hl

    Fact number two: copyright by The Hebrew University of Jerusalem and Princeton University.

    Fact number three: The quote is in the book! see page 483

    https://books.google.com/books?id=A32-DwAAQBAJ&pg=PA483&dq=%27#v=onepage&q&f=false

    Oh look, Einstein had something to say about you!

    “I’m a magnet for all the crackpots in the world, but they are of interest to me, too. A favorite pastime of mine is to reconstruct their thinking processes. I feel genuinely sorry for them, that’s why I try to help them.”
    – Albert Einstein

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  • From Arindam Banerjee@21:1/5 to Paul Alsing on Sun Jul 23 16:13:22 2023
    On Monday, 24 July 2023 at 03:32:23 UTC+8, Paul Alsing wrote:
    On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 10:24:18 AM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
    The Starmaker wrote:

    Volney wrote:

    On 7/21/2023 6:44 PM, Sylvia Else wrote:
    On 21-July-23 3:15 am, The Starmaker wrote:
    News • University
    Stanford president resigns over manipulated research, will retract at
    least three papers
    Marc Tessier-Lavigne failed to address manipulated papers, fostered >> unhealthy lab dynamic, Stanford report says
    https://stanforddaily.com/2023/07/19/stanford-president-resigns-over-manipulated-research-will-retract-at-least-3-papers/

    investigation found “manipulation of research data.”

    "The report concluded that the fudging of results under
    Tessier-Lavigne’s purview “spanned labs at three separate institutions.”
    It identified a culture where Tessier-Lavigne “tended to reward the
    ‘winners’ (that is, postdocs who could generate favorable results) and
    marginalize or diminish the ‘losers’ (that is, postdocs who were
    unable or struggled to generate such data).”

    "For several papers worthy of retraction to have been principally >> authored by the same scientist represents “unusual frequency of >> manipulation of research data and/or substandard scientific
    practices,” "Â Â Â (pattern of racketteering)

    ""In the report, the scientific panel raised questions about
    allegations of fraud in a major 2009 Alzheimer’s study that claimed to
    have found the cause of neurodegeneration in Alzheimer’s patients and
    was publicly called “the most important discovery in Alzheimer’s in
    Â the last 20 years, maybe ever” by former Genentech executive Richard
    Scheller.""Â Â (follow the money)

    "...contain doctored imagery..."

    https://stanforddaily.com/2023/07/19/stanford-president-resigns-over-manipulated-research-will-retract-at-least-3-papers/


    https://boardoftrustees.stanford.edu/wp-content/uploads/sites/5/2023/07/Scientific-Panel-Final-Report.pdf




    'If the facts don't fit the theory, change the facts.' -Albert Einstein


    He never said that.

    The facts didn't fit Starfarter's theory so he changed the facts.

    I didn't change the facts.

    Fact number one: This link points to a book that reads:
    The Ultimate Quotable Einstein
    By Albert Einstein

    https://books.google.com/books?id=A32-DwAAQBAJ&printsec=frontcover&dq=editions:tNFoVCjXVqkC&hl

    Fact number two: copyright by The Hebrew University of Jerusalem and Princeton University.

    Fact number three: The quote is in the book! see page 483

    https://books.google.com/books?id=A32-DwAAQBAJ&pg=PA483&dq=%27#v=onepage&q&f=false
    Oh look, Einstein had something to say about you!

    “I’m a magnet for all the crackpots in the world, but they are of interest to me, too. A favorite pastime of mine is to reconstruct their thinking processes. I feel genuinely sorry for them, that’s why I try to help them.”
    – Albert Einstein
    The most negative "scientist" ever with the highest negative IQ, was Albert Einstein. But he does make sense as a theologian for boosting Jewish metaphysics, threatened by sanatana or eternal dharma.
    Negative comments from the negative amount to a positive recommendation.
    Tesla understood him and his careerist disciples all too well.

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  • From Arindam Banerjee@21:1/5 to The Starmaker on Sun Jul 23 16:16:10 2023
    On Monday, 24 July 2023 at 01:24:18 UTC+8, The Starmaker wrote:
    The Starmaker wrote:

    Volney wrote:

    On 7/21/2023 6:44 PM, Sylvia Else wrote:
    On 21-July-23 3:15 am, The Starmaker wrote:
    News • University
    Stanford president resigns over manipulated research, will retract at >> least three papers
    Marc Tessier-Lavigne failed to address manipulated papers, fostered >> unhealthy lab dynamic, Stanford report says
    https://stanforddaily.com/2023/07/19/stanford-president-resigns-over-manipulated-research-will-retract-at-least-3-papers/

    investigation found “manipulation of research data.”

    "The report concluded that the fudging of results under
    Tessier-Lavigne’s purview “spanned labs at three separate institutions.”
    It identified a culture where Tessier-Lavigne “tended to reward the >> ‘winners’ (that is, postdocs who could generate favorable results) and
    marginalize or diminish the ‘losers’ (that is, postdocs who were >> unable or struggled to generate such data).”

    "For several papers worthy of retraction to have been principally
    authored by the same scientist represents “unusual frequency of
    manipulation of research data and/or substandard scientific
    practices,” "Â Â Â (pattern of racketteering)

    ""In the report, the scientific panel raised questions about
    allegations of fraud in a major 2009 Alzheimer’s study that claimed to
    have found the cause of neurodegeneration in Alzheimer’s patients and
    was publicly called “the most important discovery in Alzheimer’s in
    Â the last 20 years, maybe ever” by former Genentech executive Richard
    Scheller.""Â Â (follow the money)

    "...contain doctored imagery..."

    https://stanforddaily.com/2023/07/19/stanford-president-resigns-over-manipulated-research-will-retract-at-least-3-papers/


    https://boardoftrustees.stanford.edu/wp-content/uploads/sites/5/2023/07/Scientific-Panel-Final-Report.pdf




    'If the facts don't fit the theory, change the facts.' -Albert Einstein


    He never said that.

    The facts didn't fit Starfarter's theory so he changed the facts.

    I didn't change the facts.

    Fact number one: This link points to a book that reads:
    The Ultimate Quotable Einstein
    By Albert Einstein

    https://books.google.com/books?id=A32-DwAAQBAJ&printsec=frontcover&dq=editions:tNFoVCjXVqkC&hl

    Fact number two: copyright by The Hebrew University of Jerusalem and Princeton University.

    Fact number three: The quote is in the book! see page 483

    https://books.google.com/books?id=A32-DwAAQBAJ&pg=PA483&dq=%27#v=onepage&q&f=false

    Now, let's go back to

    Fact #1: The Ultimate Quotable Einstein By Albert Einstein

    Doesn't the words ( By Albert Einstein) mean Albert Einstein is the author of the book entittled:
    The Ultimate Quotable Einstein By Albert Einstein?

    Fact #2 The Hebrew University of Jerusalem and Princeton University certaintly should know better than anyone else.

    Fact #3 IT'S IN THE FUCKING BOOK!!!!

    https://books.google.com/books?id=A32-DwAAQBAJ&pg=PA483&dq=%27#v=onepage&q&f=false

    ALBERT EINSTEIN IS THE FUCKING AUTHOR!!!

    https://books.google.com/books?id=A32-DwAAQBAJ&pg=PA483&dq=%27#v=onepage&q&f=false

    Where did you people go to skool, Stanford University????

    Fudging University!

    'If the fudging don't fit the fudge, fudge the fudging.'

    People of the 'scientific community' like Sylvia Else and Volney are just parrots that repeat misinformation.

    Robot-parrots.

    People in the 'scientific community' are not even interested in the ...facts.

    Just as a Parrot is not interested in what it repeats...it's just making noise.

    True. Their programming is to create noise when faced with the facts derived from scientific methods.



    Now, if The Hebrew University of Jerusalem and Princeton University is publishing misinformation, I would like to hear about that.


    But look at the people who publish these books...Fudging Universities and Gangster Religions.
    --
    The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
    to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge
    the unchallengeable.

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