AP's 264th book-- Whales evolved from sauropods, not some ancient deer like species-- genetic evolution of huge size favors sauropods as ancestors.
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Scientific American, Sept2023, "Dinosaur Giants" "How the biggest animals ever to walk Earth got so huge"
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AP's American Scientific "Gross Logic Dufuses" "How scientists never learn logic and such a simple principle as Occam's Razor of Science"

I am critiquing SA, Sept2023 article by Michael D. D'Emic.

Beautiful pictures of dinosaurs. If only SA can get a writer with a logical brain.

The Occam's principle is easy to learn, easy to understand. And frighteningly, the requirements in science are such that professors never need to take Logic to think straight nor think clearly. And the effect of this lousy education, are articles like
this.

So Occam's razor is that water animals can grow enormous size because water bouys their weight.

The whale in fact is the largest animal to ever live.

So Occam's Razor Principle is that -- the Easiest Explanation is likely the true explanation.

These huge dinosaurs lived on the edge of the oceans, rarely ever walked on land, and probably could not walk on land but had to stay submerged in water to balance the weight.

They had such long necks because their lower torso was walking on sea floor near the coastline of continents.

It is wrong to call them land animals. These huge dinosaurs were aquatic.

AP, wishing that Universities require all scientists to be-- take at least a year of formal Logic to think straight and think clearly.

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Scientific American, Sept2023, "Dinosaur Giants" "How the biggest animals ever to walk Earth got so huge"
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Now my memory is fading here on whale evolution. Some recall as to whether a "deer like animal" or was it a pig like animal that went to the oceans to live and evolve into a whale.

But perhaps, better yet, perhaps some of these huge dinosaurs that were already aquatic evolved into the Whale.

Of course the Cretaceous meteor killed many of the dinosaurs, but perhaps some of the smaller dinosaurs that lived in the ocean shoreline with land, for much of Earth in Cretaceous was shallow seas, that these smaller dinosaurs evolved into the whale.
They certainly would have a head start over a deer or pig that lived solely on land.

And we must not forget that the alligator and crocodile survived the Meteor bolide, so it is easy to think one of these dinosaurs to become the whale survived.

Looking at the fossil record of early whales goes back to 50 million years and the bolide goes back to 66 million years ago. So it is rather easy to see that whales more than likely evolved directly from these aquatic dinosaurs rather than have deer like
or pig like land animals going to the ocean.

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The neck length alone on these huge dinosaurs should have informed the silly author of "Dinosaur Giants" that these were aquatic animals, not land animals.

Besides, there were no trees or vegetation on land for such a neck to struggle to reach. Like saying the giraffe evolved in pure grassland where why on Earth would you even need such a enormous neck if all the food is grass high.

So, really, so many of these science magazines, especially New Scientists, what they need is to send back to school all their authors and pick up on 1st year logic then 2nd year logic at University level.

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On Thursday, August 24, 2023 at 2:17:31 AM UTC-5, Archimedes Plutonium wrote:

--- quoting New Scientist ---
Why ancient deer returned to the sea and became whales

19 March 2018
New Scientist
Ambulocetus, an early whale

Animals first evolved to live exclusively on land about 370 million years ago – but on dozens of occasions since then land animals have gone back to exploiting the seas. That might be because the shallow seas around continents are so full of food

that they proved an irresistible lure.

Some of the most spectacular species now living in the sea have land-living ancestors. Whales are descended from animals similar to deer, while walruses and seals evolved from animals a bit like modern otters.
--- end quoting ---

Checking into their toes or hooves. And the whales elimination of that.

Now the Whales are split into two groups, the filter feeders and the non filter feeders. And I bet the sauropods are split into at least two groups, so that whales directly evolved from sauropods, and not the stupendous silly idea of looking for forest
animals of deer like creatures to be the ancestor of whales.

Now the otters, walruses, and seals, also, most likely evolved from sauropods, although a meat eating sauropod, not as huge as the plant eating sauropods. A creature that likely was a small sauropod that hugged the coastline.

So it looks as though I am going to rewrite the evolutionary history of whale and other animals story.

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AP's 264th book-- Whales evolved from sauropods, not some ancient deer like species-- genetic evolution of huge size favors sauropods as ancestors.

I shall include this as one of my books. It makes more logical sense that a huge animal in the seas and oceans already would become the whales, not some land animal of a ancient deer species would make the oceans its home. No, Occam's Razor of
commonsense would have the whale evolve from giants that already lived in the ocean--- sauropods.

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Easy book, easy book for AP to write for the evolution of whale came directly from sauropods, just as birds evolved from dinosaurs, whales evolved from sauropods. It is easy to see that gigantic size was already evolved into sauropods which were aquatic
creatures and by the time the Cretaceous bolide struck Earth some of these sauropods were already on the way to becoming whales.

--- quoting the web on two different types of whales ---
There are two types of whale; baleen and toothed. The key difference between them is the way they feed and what they have inside their mouth. Baleen whales have baleen plates, or sheets, which sieve prey from seawater. Toothed whales have teeth and they
actively hunt fish, squid and other sea creatures.

Whales - meet the different species - Whale & Dolphin ...

Whale & Dolphin Conservation USA
https://us.whales.org › About whales & dolphins
--- end whale quote ---

--- quoting the web on two different types of sauropods ---

Sauropods split into two main groups during the Jurassic. One group, the macronarians, kept the broader teeth, at least for a while. Famous Jurassic macronarians include Brachiosaurus and Camarasaurus. The other group, the diplodocoids, evolved pencil-
like teeth and long, low bodies.Jul 8, 2022

Major Groups of Dinosaurs - Fossils and Paleontology (U.S. National ...
--- end quoting two different types of sauropo

Now there is a good chance I can include the Hippopotamus as a evolutionary direct descendant of the Sauropod dinosaurs.

One of the faces of a Sauropod in that Scientific American, Sept2023 article certainly has a face resembling the face of a Hippopotamus. And it is easy to see how ancient sauropods would have lived in rivers and lakes as well as shallow seas.

So I have to look and see if the fossil record gives a clue. And woe and behold, the genetics DNA links hippopotamus with whales.

This evidence alone indicates strongly that Hippopotamus came from Sauropods. The protowhale of Pakicetus around 60 to 52 million years ago (source Wikipedia).

Now the looming question here is how advance or how retarded is the Paleontology community with making a Chart of the evolution of Birds, all the birds from that of dinosaurs. Is it a advanced topic showing many different types of dinosaurs becoming many
different types of birds, or is it a silly Chart showing only one reptile dinosaur that becomes all the various species of birds.

Because here I am offering the idea that just as Birds were a evolutionary victory for dinosaurs, that the Whales and Hippos were another evolutionary victory for a wide class of Sauropod animals.

At present here in August 2023, Paleontology has only one success story of dinosaurs coming into modern day times with Birds, birds from dinosaurs. But now, we must include a very great second success story of whales, hippopotamus, otters and likely
others coming from Sauropod dinosaurs.

AP, King of Science, especially Physics & Logic

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Now I am wondering if any of our present day birds evolved from Sauropod Dinosaurs. I know paleontology claims all the bird species of today came from dinosaur descendents.

I do not know if that Paleontology claim selects out only one dinosaur species and says all the birds of today come from that one dinosaur species. Or, which I hope is true, that several species of dinosaurs, nay, many species of dinosaurs evolved in
parallel to become bird species, and not all coming from 1 single dinosaur species.

As I recall, I wrote a book that the snakes evolved from sea snakes out of the oceans and onto the land to become land snakes. And it was a snake mechanism long before the bolide crashed into Earth,that these land snakes terrorized reptiles that live in
trees. Forcing them to "fly as best they can" to the ground to live longer. And we can see that mechanism play out and many reptile species living in trees, thus and therefore evolving into new bird species.

And so the sauropods evolving into whales, hippopotamus, otters, each species coming from a different sauropod species. Not one sauropod species evolving into all the different whales, hippos and otters.

So in that evolution of sauropods to ocean animals, I was wondering if any bird species sticks out as rather oddball compared to all other bird species? Is the Albatross that lives solely from the ocean, is the albatross a candidate for being a evolved
sauropod?

AP

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On Sunday, August 27, 2023 at 8:39:00 AM UTC-7, Archimedes Plutonium wrote:

Now I am wondering if any of our present day birds evolved from Sauropod Dinosaurs. I know paleontology claims all the bird species of today came from dinosaur descendents.

I do not know if that Paleontology claim selects out only one dinosaur species and says all the birds of today come from that one dinosaur species. Or, which I hope is true, that several species of dinosaurs, nay, many species of dinosaurs evolved in

parallel to become bird species, and not all coming from 1 single dinosaur species.

As I recall, I wrote a book that the snakes evolved from sea snakes out of the oceans and onto the land to become land snakes. And it was a snake mechanism long before the bolide crashed into Earth,that these land snakes terrorized reptiles that live

in trees. Forcing them to "fly as best they can" to the ground to live longer. And we can see that mechanism play out and many reptile species living in trees, thus and therefore evolving into new bird species.

And so the sauropods evolving into whales, hippopotamus, otters, each species coming from a different sauropod species. Not one sauropod species evolving into all the different whales, hippos and otters.

So in that evolution of sauropods to ocean animals, I was wondering if any bird species sticks out as rather oddball compared to all other bird species? Is the Albatross that lives solely from the ocean, is the albatross a candidate for being a evolved

sauropod?

AP

How did whales get mutated into sauropods?
Where did enough mutation come from in short time?
to change a new species emerging?
It happens too fast. evolution called the too fast
punctuated equilibrium.

Religion is right about sciences missing link.

Mitchell Raemsch

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---quoting a website on albatross evolution ---
In their study on the taxonomy on extant taxa of the Procellariiformes Penhallurick & Wink (2004) suggest that the earliest split in the albatross lineage took place about 44.4 My ago and produced the ancestors of the present Great and North Pacific
Albatrosses Diomedea-Phoebastria group and the Mollymawks and Sooties ...

Albatrosses - SEABIRD OSTEOLOGY
--- end quoting ---

The age or date of 44 million years ago gives me enough confidence that the Albatross evolved from a Sauropod dinosaur creature that lived in water, shallow water long before the bolide struck Earth 66 million years ago.

So my list of Sauropod descendents into modern times is --- whale, hippopotamus, otter, albatross. Those are enough to make this an excellent book. The main and major research I need to conduct is to see what type of Chart the paleontologists have put
together that shows the evolution of birds from dinosaurs. Do they have the Chart restricted to one or two or three dinosaur reptiles to account for all modern bird species??? Probably. For I think that to do justice to the evolution of modern birds,
there was multiple-parallel-evolution of many dinosaur species giving rise to many bird species.

Same goes for whales, hippopotamus, otter, and albatross, many different sauropods give rise to each of those class of animals. As easily seen in whales-- there are the b