• Re: Archimedes Plutonium: The Special One

    From Archimedes Plutonium@21:1/5 to Michael Moroney on Fri Sep 8 02:01:49 2023
    Volney physics failures..Berkeley,Dr. Jennifer Doudna,Dr.Reinhard Genzel,Dr.Yuan T. Lee,Dr.Saul Perlmutter,Dr.Randy Schekman (physiology),NSF Dr.Panchanathan,Alejandro Adem, shithead oaf of math,Purdue Univ_France Cordova, howling crazy fuckdog Unable to
    do Water Electrolysis

    (Kibo)Volney physics failures..MIT_Dr.Frank Wilczek,Dr.Rainer Weiss, Dr.Jerome Friedman, Dr.Wolfgang Ketterle, Dr.Richard Schrock (chem),NSF Dr.Panchanathan,Alejandro Adem, Purdue Univ_France Cordova, howling crazy fuckdog

    Why Volney?? Because they are so sloppy and slipshod in Physics experiment of Water Electrolysis, stopping and ceasing the experiment before weighing the mass of the hydrogen compared to mass of oxygen. Is it that they are stupid silly thinking volume
    and mass are the same.


    Berkeley physics & chemistry
    UC Berkeley,Dr.Steven Chu,Dr.Gilbert N. Lewis,Dr.Harold Urey,Dr.William F.Giauque,Dr.Glenn T. Seaborg,Dr.Willard Libby,Dr.Melvin Calvin,Dr. Jennifer Doudna,Dr.Reinhard Genzel,Dr.Yuan T. Lee,Dr.Saul Perlmutter,Dr.Randy Schekman (physiology)

    President: Sally Kornbluth
    MIT physics dept
    William Bertozzi, Robert Birgeneau, Hale Bradt, Bernard Burke, George Clark , Jeffrey Goldstone, Thomas Greytak, Lee Grodzins , Paul Joss, Vera Kistiakowsky, Earle Lomon, Irwin Pless, Paul Schechter, James Young
    Andrea Ghez, K. Barry Sharpless(chem), Carolyn Bertozzi(chem),Dr.Frank Wilczek,Dr.Rainer Weiss, Dr.Jerome Friedman, Dr.Wolfgang Ketterle, Dr.Richard Schrock (chem)




    On Saturday, September 2, 2023 at 11:38:41 AM UTC-5, Volney wrote:
    "Court Jester of Physics"
    "howling crazy fuckdog> fails at math and science:

    Apparently Kibo realized he was a science failure when he could not even do a proper percentage. But then one has to wonder how much he paid to bribe Rensselaer to graduate from the school in engineering unable to do a percentage properly???? For I
    certainly would not hire a engineer who cannot even do proper percentage.


    On Wednesday, December 6, 2017 at 12:30:22 AM UTC-6, Michael Moroney wrote:
    Silly boy, that's off by more than 12.6 MeV, or 12% of the mass of a muon. Hardly "exactly" 9 muons.
    Wednesday, December 6, 2017 at 9:52:21 AM UTC-6, Michael Moroney wrote:
    Or, 938.2720813/105.6583745 = 8.88024338572. A proton is about the mass
    of 8.88 muons, not 9. About 12% short.

    On Tuesday, September 5, 2023 at 4:31:30 PM UTC-5, Volney wrote:
    Mindless spamming fuckdog
    crazy
    On Tuesday, September 5, 2023 at 10:59:27 AM UTC-5, Volney wrote:
    wasn't bolted down too tight in the first place
    Why do you keep trying to brainwash little 5 year old kids?

    On Tuesday, September 5, 2023 at 1:55:09 AM UTC-5, Volney wrote:
    Village Idiot
    On Monday, September 4, 2023 at 1:39:21 AM UTC-5, Volney wrote:
    Hagfish of Math and Slime Eel of Physics "struggling for
    relevance"

    On Sunday, September 3, 2023 at 9:15:34 PM UTC-5, Volney wrote:
    "Drag Queen of Science"
    "psychoceramic> fails at math and science:
    On Sunday, September 3, 2023 at 12:31:40 AM UTC-5, Volney wrote: >"illogical"
    "shithead oaf of math> fails at math and science:

    Volney physics failures..CalTech_Dr.David Goodstein,Dr.Frances Arnold (chem), Dr.Barry Barish, Dr.Rudolph Marcus (chem), Dr.Hugh Politzer NSF Dr.Panchanathan,Alejandro Adem, Purdue Univ_France Cordova, howling crazy fuckdog

    On Saturday, September 2, 2023 at 11:38:41 AM UTC-5, Volney wrote:
    "Court Jester of Physics"
    "howling crazy fuckdog> fails at math and science:

    Volney is the NSF staff and CalTech physics department a leftover relic of too many Dunning-Kruger???

    Why Volney?? Because they stop short of completing the Water Electrolysis Experiment by only looking at volume, when they are meant to weigh the mass of hydrogen versus oxygen?? Such shoddy minds in experimental physics and chemistry.

    Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute Physics dept
    Vincent Meunier, Ethan Brown, Glenn Ciolek, Julian S. Georg, Joel T. Giedt, Yong Sung Kim, Gyorgy Korniss, Toh-Ming Lu, Charles Martin, Joseph Darryl Michael, Heidi Jo Newberg, Moussa N'Gom, Peter Persans, John Schroeder, Michael Shur, Shawn-Yu Lin,
    Humberto Terrones, Gwo Ching Wang, Morris A Washington, Esther A. Wertz, Christian M. Wetzel, Ingrid Wilke, Shengbai Zhang

    Rensselaer math department
    Donald Schwendeman, Jeffrey Banks, Kristin Bennett, Mohamed Boudjelkha, Joseph Ecker, William Henshaw, Isom Herron, Mark H Holmes, David Isaacson, Elizabeth Kam, Ashwani Kapila, Maya Kiehl, Gregor Kovacic, Peter Kramer, Gina Kucinski, Rongjie Lai,
    Fengyan Li, Chjan Lim, Yuri V Lvov, Harry McLaughlin, John E. Mitchell, Bruce Piper, David A Schmidt, Daniel Stevenson, Yangyang Xu, Bulent Yener, Donald Drew, William Siegmann

    On Friday, June 7, 2019 at 12:13:14 AM UTC-5, Michael Moroney wrote:
    Physics minnow
    WARNING TO ELECTRICAL ENGINEERING STUDENTS:

    What warning is that Kibo Parry failure of science-- warning that insane persons like Kibo Parry Moroney Volney spends their entire life in a hate-mill, never doing anything in science itself.

    Kibo Parry Moroney-Volney blowing his cover with the CIA in 1997
    Re: Archimedes Vanadium, America's most beloved poster
    On Sunday, June 8, 1997 at 2:00:00 AM UTC-5, Scott Dorsey wrote:
    In article <5nefan$i06$9...@news.thecia.net> kibo greps <ki...@shell.thecia.net> writes:



    ---quoting Wikipedia ---
    Controversy
    Many government and university installations blocked, threatened to block, or attempted to shut-down The World's Internet connection until Software Tool & Die was eventually granted permission by the National Science Foundation to provide public
    Internet access on "an experimental basis."
    --- end quote ---

    NATIONAL SCIENCE FOUNDATION

    Dr. Panchanathan , present day
    NSF Dr. Panchanathan, F. Fleming Crim, Dorothy E Aronson, Brian Stone, James S Ulvestad (math), Rebecca Lynn Keiser, Vernon D. Ross, Lloyd Whitman, John J. Veysey (physics), Scott Stanley
    France Anne Cordova
    Subra Suresh (bioengineer)
    Arden Lee Bement Jr. (nuclear engineering)
    Rita R. Colwell (microbiology)
    Neal Francis Lane
    John Howard Gibbons 1993

    Barry Shein, kibo parry std world
    Jim Frost, Joe "Spike" Ilacqua

    Canada-- NSERC , Alejandro Adem (math) , Navdeep Bains, Francois-Philippe Champagne


    News starting to come in that AP's Water Electrolysis Experiment proves the true formula of Water is H4O, not H2O is starting to come in.

    Aug 30, 2023, 10:19:20 PM (yesterday)
    to Plutonium Atom Universe
    News starting to come in that AP's Water Electrolysis Experiment proves the true formula of Water is H4O, not H2O is starting to come in.

    I received a
  • From Archimedes Plutonium@21:1/5 to Michael Moroney on Sat Sep 9 15:26:12 2023
    (Kibo)Volney physics failures..Berkeley,Dr.John Clarke, Dr.Marvin Cohen, Dr.Michael Crommie,Dr.Joel Fajans, Dr. Roger Falcone, Dr.Mary Gaillard,NSF Dr.Panchanathan,Alejandro Adem, shithead oaf of math,Purdue Univ_France Cordova, howling crazy fuckdog
    Unable to do Water Electrolysis

    Why Volney?? Because they are so sloppy and slipshod in Physics experiment of Water Electrolysis, stopping and ceasing the experiment before weighing the mass of the hydrogen compared to mass of oxygen. Is it that they are stupid silly thinking volume
    and mass are the same.


    UC Berkeley, the place where plutonium was discovered by Seaborg et al, deserves a separate listing, as a top of tops school in science.

    Berkeley physics & chemistry
    UC Berkeley,Dr.Steven Chu,Dr.Gilbert N. Lewis,Dr.Harold Urey,Dr.William F.Giauque,Dr.Glenn T. Seaborg,Dr.Willard Libby,Dr.Melvin Calvin,Dr. Jennifer Doudna,Dr.Reinhard Genzel,Dr.Yuan T. Lee,Dr.Saul Perlmutter,Dr.Randy Schekman (physiology)

    Berkeley physics & chemistry
    UC Berkeley,

    Dr.Eric Betzig (chem), Dr.George Smoot,Dr.Barry Barish,Dr.David Wineland,Dr.John Mather, Dr.Alan Heeger (chem), Dr.Robert Laughlin, Dr.Steven Chu,Dr.Gilbert N. Lewis,Dr.Harold Urey,Dr.William F.Giauque,Dr.Glenn T. Seaborg,Dr.Willard Libby,Dr.Melvin
    Calvin,Dr. Jennifer Doudna,Dr.Reinhard Genzel,Dr.Yuan T. Lee,Dr.Saul Perlmutter,Dr.Randy Schekman (physiology)

    Dr.John Clarke, Dr.Marvin Cohen, Dr.Michael Crommie,Dr.Joel Fajans, Dr. Roger Falcone, Dr.Mary Gaillard, Dr.Gabriel Gann, Dr.Naomi Ginsberg, Dr.Heather Gray, Dr.Hartmut Haeffner, Dr.Lawrence Hall, Dr.Oskar Hallatschek, Dr.Wick Haxton, Dr.Frances Hellman,
    Dr.Petr Horava, Dr.Barbara Jacak, Dr.Bob Jacobsen, Dr.Steven Kahn, Dr.Dan Kasen, Dr.Edgar Knobloch, Dr.Shimon Kolkowitz, Dr.Yury Kolomensky, Dr.Alessandra Lanzara, Dr.Stephen Leone, Dr.Eric Ma,... the physics faculty reads almost as long as a army of
    soldiers, please forgive any names that AP left out, please forgive...



    On Saturday, September 2, 2023 at 11:38:41 AM UTC-5, Volney wrote:
    "Court Jester of Physics"
    "howling crazy fuckdog> fails at math and science:

    Apparently Kibo realized he was a science failure when he could not even do a proper percentage. But then one has to wonder how much he paid to bribe Rensselaer to graduate from the school in engineering unable to do a percentage properly???? For I
    certainly would not hire a engineer who cannot even do proper percentage.


    On Wednesday, December 6, 2017 at 12:30:22 AM UTC-6, Michael Moroney wrote:
    Silly boy, that's off by more than 12.6 MeV, or 12% of the mass of a muon. Hardly "exactly" 9 muons.
    Wednesday, December 6, 2017 at 9:52:21 AM UTC-6, Michael Moroney wrote:
    Or, 938.2720813/105.6583745 = 8.88024338572. A proton is about the mass
    of 8.88 muons, not 9. About 12% short.

    On Tuesday, September 5, 2023 at 4:31:30 PM UTC-5, Volney wrote:
    Mindless spamming fuckdog
    crazy
    On Tuesday, September 5, 2023 at 10:59:27 AM UTC-5, Volney wrote:
    wasn't bolted down too tight in the first place
    Why do you keep trying to brainwash little 5 year old kids?

    On Tuesday, September 5, 2023 at 1:55:09 AM UTC-5, Volney wrote:
    Village Idiot
    On Monday, September 4, 2023 at 1:39:21 AM UTC-5, Volney wrote:
    Hagfish of Math and Slime Eel of Physics "struggling for
    relevance"

    On Sunday, September 3, 2023 at 9:15:34 PM UTC-5, Volney wrote:
    "Drag Queen of Science"
    "psychoceramic> fails at math and science:
    On Sunday, September 3, 2023 at 12:31:40 AM UTC-5, Volney wrote: >"illogical"
    "shithead oaf of math> fails at math and science:

    Volney physics failures..CalTech_Dr.David Goodstein,Dr.Frances Arnold (chem), Dr.Barry Barish, Dr.Rudolph Marcus (chem), Dr.Hugh Politzer NSF Dr.Panchanathan,Alejandro Adem, Purdue Univ_France Cordova, howling crazy fuckdog

    On Saturday, September 2, 2023 at 11:38:41 AM UTC-5, Volney wrote:
    "Court Jester of Physics"
    "howling crazy fuckdog> fails at math and science:

    Volney is the NSF staff and CalTech physics department a leftover relic of too many Dunning-Kruger???

    Why Volney?? Because they stop short of completing the Water Electrolysis Experiment by only looking at volume, when they are meant to weigh the mass of hydrogen versus oxygen?? Such shoddy minds in experimental physics and chemistry.

    Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute Physics dept
    Vincent Meunier, Ethan Brown, Glenn Ciolek, Julian S. Georg, Joel T. Giedt, Yong Sung Kim, Gyorgy Korniss, Toh-Ming Lu, Charles Martin, Joseph Darryl Michael, Heidi Jo Newberg, Moussa N'Gom, Peter Persans, John Schroeder, Michael Shur, Shawn-Yu Lin,
    Humberto Terrones, Gwo Ching Wang, Morris A Washington, Esther A. Wertz, Christian M. Wetzel, Ingrid Wilke, Shengbai Zhang

    Rensselaer math department
    Donald Schwendeman, Jeffrey Banks, Kristin Bennett, Mohamed Boudjelkha, Joseph Ecker, William Henshaw, Isom Herron, Mark H Holmes, David Isaacson, Elizabeth Kam, Ashwani Kapila, Maya Kiehl, Gregor Kovacic, Peter Kramer, Gina Kucinski, Rongjie Lai,
    Fengyan Li, Chjan Lim, Yuri V Lvov, Harry McLaughlin, John E. Mitchell, Bruce Piper, David A Schmidt, Daniel Stevenson, Yangyang Xu, Bulent Yener, Donald Drew, William Siegmann

    On Friday, June 7, 2019 at 12:13:14 AM UTC-5, Michael Moroney wrote:
    Physics minnow
    WARNING TO ELECTRICAL ENGINEERING STUDENTS:

    What warning is that Kibo Parry failure of science-- warning that insane persons like Kibo Parry Moroney Volney spends their entire life in a hate-mill, never doing anything in science itself.

    Kibo Parry Moroney-Volney blowing his cover with the CIA in 1997
    Re: Archimedes Vanadium, America's most beloved poster
    On Sunday, June 8, 1997 at 2:00:00 AM UTC-5, Scott Dorsey wrote:
    In article <5nefan$i06$9...@news.thecia.net> kibo greps <ki...@shell.thecia.net> writes:



    ---quoting Wikipedia ---
    Controversy
    Many government and university installations blocked, threatened to block, or attempted to shut-down The World's Internet connection until Software Tool & Die was eventually granted permission by the National Science Foundation to provide public
    Internet access on "an experimental basis."
    --- end quote ---

    NATIONAL SCIENCE FOUNDATION

    Dr. Panchanathan , present day
    NSF Dr. Panchanathan, F. Fleming Crim, Dorothy E Aronson, Brian Stone, James S Ulvestad (math), Rebecca Lynn Keiser, Vernon D. Ross, Lloyd Whitman, John J. Veysey (physics), Scott Stanley
    France Anne Cordova
    Subra Suresh (bioengineer)
    Arden Lee Bement Jr. (nuclear engineering)
    Rita R. Colwell (microbiology)
    Neal Francis Lane
    John Howard Gibbons 1993

    Barry Shein, kibo parry std world
    Jim Frost, Joe "Spike" Ilacqua

    Canada-- NSERC , Alejandro Adem (math) , Navdeep Bains, Francois-Philippe Champagne


    News starting to come in that AP's Water Electrolysis Experiment proves the true formula of Water is H4O, not H2O is starting to come in.

    Aug 30, 2023, 10:19:20 PM (yesterday)
    to Plutonium Atom Universe
    News starting to come in that AP's Water Electrolysis Experiment proves the true formula of Water is H4O, not H2O is starting to come in.

    I received a
  • From Archimedes Plutonium@21:1/5 to All on Tue Nov 14 21:13:33 2023
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    50 F-16 fighter jets in Ukraine wins and ends the war.

    Arindam, are you as bad and loser in artwork as you are in physics?

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    50 F-16 fighter jets in Ukraine wins the war.

    Upload 50 F-16 fighter jets to Ukraine and get this war over with for victory to Ukraine. F-16 is the gamechanger-- it blows up trenches and destroys Russian airspace. Russia is defeated against the F-16.

    I do not know if China is defeated against F-16s, and maybe someone in the military can voice opinion on this.

    ███۞███████ ]▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▃ Radio Wave & Laser Rifle to shoot down GLONASS and BeiDou satellites

    Xi masses troops on Russian border to take back Outer Manchuria of the Qing dynasty. If you do not know the history, Russia stole Outer Manchuria and Vladivostok from China.

    While Putin is too busy with his personal war, Xi thinks time is ripe to get back what belongs to China in the first place. OUTER MANCHURIA and especially Vladivostok.

    Xi gives the Chinese people a Christmas gift--- Outer Manchuria-- the beloved Old China

    I am not positive we can take out GLONASS and BeiDou from ground based radio and microwaves and laser waves, even jamming.

    But I am certain that we can put a satellite in orbit that is a wrecking ramming satellite that does take out GLONASS and BeiDou. I am certain of this because several countries have robotic satellites that maintenance their fleet of satellites. And to
    this end, we need such a wrecking ball satellite immediately up there.

    [Note, graphics found in sci.physics when Nomen Nescio used to spam sci.physics with a fake FAQ.]



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    Satellite RIFLE to shoot down GLONASS, Iran,and BeiDou satellites.
    Hooray

    Hooray!! End the Ukraine war

    Easiest way to end the Ukraine invasion by Russia, start felling GLONASS satellites, fell them directly with radar laser pulses or jam them to fall.

    Now I thought GLONASS Russian satellites numbered in the thousands, for the Internet is lousy on this question of how many satellites, for recently BBC was vague with a estimate of 600 satellites, yet another web site said 42,000. But apparently only 24
    are operational for GLONASS. And my take on this is that satellites are precarious vessels and easily for something to go wrong and be inoperative. All the better to look for flaws in engineering to down all 24 GLONASS Russian satellites.

    So, easy easy Achilles tendon in all of the Russian ICBM military strategy, for knock out the 24 and you in a sense, knock out the entire Russian ICBM arsenal, for they no longer have any navigation.

    And if the West is on its top shape and form in technology, we want the West Scientists to figure out how to intercept the Russian ICBM and cause it to fall upon Russia and explode upon Russia.

    Get the best electronics and electrical engineers of the West to figure out how to cause all Russian launched and Chinese launched ICBMs to explode on home territory.

    Caveat: if the West can do it, mind you, the Chinese and Russians will want to steal those secrets from the West and that should never be allowed--Ultimate Top Secret classification that not even a punk weirdo president like Trump cannot see, nor mention
    to him for he would likely sell it for a golf course in some foreign enemy country.

    Google search reveals
    24+
    GLONASS (Globalnaya Navigazionnaya Sputnikovaya Sistema, or Global Navigation Satellite System) is a global GNSS owned and operated by the Russian Federation. The fully operational system consists of 24+ satellites.Oct 19, 2021

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    ███۞███████ ]▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▃ Radio Wave--Laser Rifle felling BeiDou satellites

    From what I gather on internet, Russia has 24 satellites in operation while BeiDou China has 35.
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    Radio Wave-- LASER RIFLE to shoot down the premier BeiDou satellite.
    Ending the dumb and stupid petty dictators launching rockets from North Korea.

    It is respectfully request help from engineers in Japan to help fell the BeiDou satellites that navigate the illegal North Korea launches.


    --- quoting Wikipedia ---
    The BeiDou Navigation Satellite System (BDS; Chinese: 北斗卫星导航系统; pinyin: Běidǒu Wèixīng Dǎoháng Xìtǒng) is a Chinese satellite navigation system. It consists of two separate satellite constellations. The first BeiDou system,
    officially called the BeiDou Satellite Navigation Experimental System and also known as BeiDou-1, consisted of three satellites which, beginning in 2000, offered limited coverage and navigation services, mainly for users in China and neighboring regions.
    BeiDou-1 was decommissioned at the end of 2012. The second generation of the system, officially called the BeiDou Navigation Satellite System (BDS) and also known as COMPASS or BeiDou-2, became operational in China in December 2011 with a partial
    constellation of 10 satellites in orbit. Since December 2012, it has been offering services to customers in the Asia-Pacific region.

    In 2015, China launched the third generation BeiDou system (BeiDou-3) for global coverage. The first BD
  • From Arindam Banerjee@21:1/5 to Archimedes Plutonium on Tue Nov 14 22:04:22 2023
    On Wednesday, 15 November 2023 at 16:13:37 UTC+11, Archimedes Plutonium wrote:
    \__[0]__/
    50 F-16 fighter jets in Ukraine wins and ends the war.

    In your dreams, Archie. A Pakistani F-16 was shot down by an Indian MIG-21. Russians can do better with their Mig-29s.

    Arindam, are you as bad and loser in artwork as you are in physics?

    Don't be silly, Archie.
    My physics can revolutionise warfare, but that is not something I am interested, unless we all unite against possible alien attack.
    My ftl vessels all operate in outer space, and their carriers are huge spaceships much like what you see in the Star* stuff.
    Perfectly possible with my new physics.
    See your silly aircraft carriers rise up, up into deep space, with new motors. My home made rail gun produces mor momentum than any high power rifle, thanks to a new design.
    Spacecraft firing hypersonic guided missiles, from outer space, invincible.
    So, stop the disastrous fighting with obsolete physics and learn, learn from Arindam (bin Einstein ban Gandhi) Banerjee, greatest genius of all time, sole god among lotsa devils
    else end up as the stone age peoples, genocided to extinction
    when the aliens come.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)