earth and other things revolve
around the sun...
that can only mean one thing..
the sun is not moving.
--
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to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
and challenge the unchallengeable.
earth and other things revolve
around the sun...
that can only mean one thing..
the sun is not moving.
On Friday, November 17, 2023 at 12:48:43 PM UTC-8, The Starmaker wrote:
earth and other things revolve
around the sun...
that can only mean one thing..
the sun is not moving.
No. The Sun takes the solar system around
the Milky Way... There is no absolute rest...
--
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
and challenge the unchallengeable.
The Starmaker wrote:
earth and other things revolve
around the sun...
that can only mean one thing..
the sun is not moving.
it is my undrstanding...
the sun being a star..
that there are no stars that move.
The Starmaker wrote:
The Starmaker wrote:
earth and other things revolve
around the sun...
that can only mean one thing..
the sun is not moving.
it is my undrstanding...
the sun being a star..
that there are no stars that move.
Hey! Where is the Big Dipper? I don't see it...it must have moved! Where
did it go????
--
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
and challenge the unchallengeable.
On Sunday, November 19, 2023 at 1:40:11 PM UTC-8, The Starmaker wrote:
The Starmaker wrote:
The Starmaker wrote:
The Starmaker wrote:
earth and other things revolve
around the sun...
that can only mean one thing..
the sun is not moving.
it is my undrstanding...
the sun being a star..
that there are no stars that move.
Hey! Where is the Big Dipper? I don't see it...it must have moved! Where did it go????Does that North star ever move???
(by move, i mean move it's position)
Since it is not *exactly* above the pole, yes, it does.
Paul Alsing wrote:
On Sunday, November 19, 2023 at 1:40:11 PM UTC-8, The Starmaker wrote:
The Starmaker wrote:
The Starmaker wrote:
The Starmaker wrote:
earth and other things revolve
around the sun...
that can only mean one thing..
the sun is not moving.
it is my undrstanding...
the sun being a star..
that there are no stars that move.
Hey! Where is the Big Dipper? I don't see it...it must have moved! WhereDoes that North star ever move???
did it go????
(by move, i mean move it's position)
Since it is not *exactly* above the pole, yes, it does.
You maean North of the North pole is...up?
The Starmaker wrote:
Paul Alsing wrote:
On Sunday, November 19, 2023 at 1:40:11 PM UTC-8, The Starmaker wrote:
The Starmaker wrote:
The Starmaker wrote:
The Starmaker wrote:
earth and other things revolve
around the sun...
that can only mean one thing..
the sun is not moving.
it is my undrstanding...
the sun being a star..
that there are no stars that move.
Hey! Where is the Big Dipper? I don't see it...it must have moved! WhereDoes that North star ever move???
did it go????
(by move, i mean move it's position)
Since it is not *exactly* above the pole, yes, it does.
You maean North of the North pole is...up?Just because it is above/up the pole of the North pole above up doesn't
mean it is moving. Polaris does not move it's position. It is ...fixed.
It does not move.
Where does it say Polaris...moves?
On Sunday, November 19, 2023 at 9:27:14 PM UTC-8, The Starmaker wrote:
The Starmaker wrote:
Paul Alsing wrote:
On Sunday, November 19, 2023 at 1:40:11 PM UTC-8, The Starmaker wrote: >>>>> The Starmaker wrote:
Does that North star ever move???
The Starmaker wrote:
The Starmaker wrote:
earth and other things revolve
around the sun...
that can only mean one thing..
the sun is not moving.
it is my undrstanding...
the sun being a star..
that there are no stars that move.
Hey! Where is the Big Dipper? I don't see it...it must have moved! Where >>>>>> did it go????
(by move, i mean move it's position)
Since it is not *exactly* above the pole, yes, it does.
You maean North of the North pole is...up?
Just because it is above/up the pole of the North pole above up doesn't
mean it is moving. Polaris does not move it's position. It is ...fixed.
It does not move.
Where does it say Polaris...moves?
Are you really this uninformed? ANY star that does not have a declination of +90 or -90 is going to rotate around the pole... period!
On 11/20/2023 1:20 AM, Paul Alsing wrote:
On Sunday, November 19, 2023 at 9:27:14 PM UTC-8, The Starmaker wrote:
The Starmaker wrote:
Paul Alsing wrote:
On Sunday, November 19, 2023 at 1:40:11 PM UTC-8, The Starmaker wrote: >>>>> The Starmaker wrote:
Does that North star ever move???
The Starmaker wrote:
The Starmaker wrote:
earth and other things revolve
around the sun...
that can only mean one thing..
the sun is not moving.
it is my undrstanding...
the sun being a star..
that there are no stars that move.
Hey! Where is the Big Dipper? I don't see it...it must have moved! Where
did it go????
(by move, i mean move it's position)
Since it is not *exactly* above the pole, yes, it does.
You maean North of the North pole is...up?
Just because it is above/up the pole of the North pole above up doesn't
mean it is moving. Polaris does not move it's position. It is ...fixed.
It does not move.
Where does it say Polaris...moves?
Are you really this uninformed? ANY star that does not have a declination of +90 or -90 is going to rotate around the pole... period!
Since Polaris has a declination of +89° 15′ 51″, it does move in a (small) circle. A circle more than the full moon.
Volney wrote:
On 11/20/2023 1:20 AM, Paul Alsing wrote:
On Sunday, November 19, 2023 at 9:27:14 PM UTC-8, The Starmaker wrote:
The Starmaker wrote:
Paul Alsing wrote:
On Sunday, November 19, 2023 at 1:40:11 PM UTC-8, The Starmaker wrote:
The Starmaker wrote:
Does that North star ever move???
The Starmaker wrote:
The Starmaker wrote:
earth and other things revolve
around the sun...
that can only mean one thing..
the sun is not moving.
it is my undrstanding...
the sun being a star..
that there are no stars that move.
Hey! Where is the Big Dipper? I don't see it...it must have moved! Where
did it go????
(by move, i mean move it's position)
Since it is not *exactly* above the pole, yes, it does.
You maean North of the North pole is...up?
Just because it is above/up the pole of the North pole above up doesn't >> mean it is moving. Polaris does not move it's position. It is ...fixed. >>
It does not move.
Where does it say Polaris...moves?
Are you really this uninformed? ANY star that does not have a declination of +90 or -90 is going to rotate around the pole... period!
Since Polaris has a declination of +89° 15′ 51″, it does move in a (small) circle. A circle more than the full moon.
It doesn't move from the place it is located. It might spin, revolve..go around in circles...but it doesn't move from it's position.
position means the place it is located. It won't move from that place.
If you tie a dog to a tree, you can say "Don't worry, he won't move from there."
He can bark, jump, or hang himself with the leash...but he won't move
from there.
None of the stars in the universe ...move.
None of the stars in the universe will change their position.
The dog is not going anywhere.
See Spot run in circle
See Spot ain't going no where.
"Don't worry, he won't move from there."
Stars do not change the place or the position they are in.
The Big Dipper has always been in the same place since the beginning of
time. It hasn't moved.
Do I have to name all the other stars????
Sun?
really?
--
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
and challenge the unchallengeable.
On Sunday, November 19, 2023 at 11:42:09 PM UTC-8, The Starmaker wrote:
Volney wrote:
On 11/20/2023 1:20 AM, Paul Alsing wrote:
On Sunday, November 19, 2023 at 9:27:14 PM UTC-8, The Starmaker wrote:
The Starmaker wrote:
Paul Alsing wrote:
On Sunday, November 19, 2023 at 1:40:11 PM UTC-8, The Starmaker wrote:
The Starmaker wrote:
Does that North star ever move???
The Starmaker wrote:
The Starmaker wrote:
earth and other things revolve
around the sun...
that can only mean one thing..
the sun is not moving.
it is my undrstanding...
the sun being a star..
that there are no stars that move.
Hey! Where is the Big Dipper? I don't see it...it must have moved! Where
did it go????
(by move, i mean move it's position)
Since it is not *exactly* above the pole, yes, it does.
You maean North of the North pole is...up?
Just because it is above/up the pole of the North pole above up doesn't
mean it is moving. Polaris does not move it's position. It is ...fixed.
It does not move.
Where does it say Polaris...moves?
Are you really this uninformed? ANY star that does not have a declination of +90 or -90 is going to rotate around the pole... period!
Since Polaris has a declination of +89° 15′ 51″, it does move in a (small) circle. A circle more than the full moon.It doesn't move from the place it is located. It might spin, revolve..go around in circles...but it doesn't move from it's position.
position means the place it is located. It won't move from that place.
If you tie a dog to a tree, you can say "Don't worry, he won't move from there."
He can bark, jump, or hang himself with the leash...but he won't move
from there.
None of the stars in the universe ...move.
None of the stars in the universe will change their position.
The dog is not going anywhere.
See Spot run in circle
See Spot ain't going no where.
"Don't worry, he won't move from there."
Stars do not change the place or the position they are in.
The Big Dipper has always been in the same place since the beginning of time. It hasn't moved.
Do I have to name all the other stars????
Sun?
really?You are advised to study the definition of "proper motion" as an astronomical term.
--
The Big Dipper, from here on Earth, looked very different in the past and will look very different in the future because its stars, like all other stars, move around with respect to each other!
Volney wrote:
On 11/20/2023 1:20 AM, Paul Alsing wrote:
On Sunday, November 19, 2023 at 9:27:14 PM UTC-8, The Starmaker wrote:
The Starmaker wrote:
Paul Alsing wrote:
On Sunday, November 19, 2023 at 1:40:11 PM UTC-8, The Starmaker wrote:
The Starmaker wrote:
Does that North star ever move???
The Starmaker wrote:
The Starmaker wrote:
earth and other things revolve
around the sun...
that can only mean one thing..
the sun is not moving.
it is my undrstanding...
the sun being a star..
that there are no stars that move.
Hey! Where is the Big Dipper? I don't see it...it must have moved! Where
did it go????
(by move, i mean move it's position)
Since it is not *exactly* above the pole, yes, it does.
You maean North of the North pole is...up?
Just because it is above/up the pole of the North pole above up doesn't >> mean it is moving. Polaris does not move it's position. It is ...fixed. >>
It does not move.
Where does it say Polaris...moves?
Are you really this uninformed? ANY star that does not have a declination of +90 or -90 is going to rotate around the pole... period!
Since Polaris has a declination of +89° 15′ 51″, it does move in a (small) circle. A circle more than the full moon.It doesn't move from the place it is located. It might spin, revolve..go around in circles...but it doesn't move from it's position.
position means the place it is located. It won't move from that place.
If you tie a dog to a tree, you can say "Don't worry, he won't move from there."
He can bark, jump, or hang himself with the leash...but he won't move
from there.
None of the stars in the universe ...move.
None of the stars in the universe will change their position.
The dog is not going anywhere.
See Spot run in circle
See Spot ain't going no where.
"Don't worry, he won't move from there."
Stars do not change the place or the position they are in.
The Big Dipper has always been in the same place since the beginning of time. It hasn't moved.
Do I have to name all the other stars????
Sun?
really?
--
Polaris does not move it's position. It is ...fixed.
Volney wrote:
On 11/20/2023 1:20 AM, Paul Alsing wrote:
On Sunday, November 19, 2023 at 9:27:14 PM UTC-8, The Starmaker wrote:
The Starmaker wrote:
Paul Alsing wrote:
On Sunday, November 19, 2023 at 1:40:11 PM UTC-8, The Starmaker wrote:
The Starmaker wrote:
Does that North star ever move???
The Starmaker wrote:
The Starmaker wrote:
earth and other things revolve
around the sun...
that can only mean one thing..
the sun is not moving.
it is my undrstanding...
the sun being a star..
that there are no stars that move.
Hey! Where is the Big Dipper? I don't see it...it must have moved! Where
did it go????
(by move, i mean move it's position)
Since it is not *exactly* above the pole, yes, it does.
You maean North of the North pole is...up?
Just because it is above/up the pole of the North pole above up doesn't >>>> mean it is moving. Polaris does not move it's position. It is ...fixed. >>>>
It does not move.
Where does it say Polaris...moves?
Are you really this uninformed? ANY star that does not have a declination of +90 or -90 is going to rotate around the pole... period!
Since Polaris has a declination of +89° 15′ 51″, it does move in a
(small) circle. A circle more than the full moon.
It doesn't move from the place it is located. It might spin, revolve..go around in circles...but it doesn't move from it's position.
position means the place it is located. It won't move from that place.
If you tie a dog to a tree, you can say "Don't worry, he won't move from there."
He can bark, jump, or hang himself with the leash...but he won't move
from there.
None of the stars in the universe ...move.
None of the stars in the universe will change their position.
The dog is not going anywhere.
See Spot run in circle
See Spot ain't going no where.
"Don't worry, he won't move from there."
Stars do not change the place or the position they are in.
The Big Dipper has always been in the same place since the beginning of
time. It hasn't moved.
Do I have to name all the other stars????
Sun?
really?
On 11/20/2023 2:42 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
Volney wrote:
On 11/20/2023 1:20 AM, Paul Alsing wrote:
On Sunday, November 19, 2023 at 9:27:14 PM UTC-8, The Starmaker wrote:
The Starmaker wrote:
Paul Alsing wrote:
On Sunday, November 19, 2023 at 1:40:11 PM UTC-8, The Starmaker wrote:
The Starmaker wrote:
Does that North star ever move???
The Starmaker wrote:
The Starmaker wrote:
earth and other things revolve
around the sun...
that can only mean one thing..
the sun is not moving.
it is my undrstanding...
the sun being a star..
that there are no stars that move.
Hey! Where is the Big Dipper? I don't see it...it must have moved! Where
did it go????
(by move, i mean move it's position)
Since it is not *exactly* above the pole, yes, it does.
You maean North of the North pole is...up?
Just because it is above/up the pole of the North pole above up doesn't >>>> mean it is moving. Polaris does not move it's position. It is ...fixed. >>>>
It does not move.
Where does it say Polaris...moves?
Are you really this uninformed? ANY star that does not have a declination of +90 or -90 is going to rotate around the pole... period!
Since Polaris has a declination of +89° 15′ 51″, it does move in a
(small) circle. A circle more than the full moon.
It doesn't move from the place it is located. It might spin, revolve..go around in circles...but it doesn't move from it's position.
position means the place it is located. It won't move from that place.
If you tie a dog to a tree, you can say "Don't worry, he won't move from there."
He can bark, jump, or hang himself with the leash...but he won't move
from there.
None of the stars in the universe ...move.
None of the stars in the universe will change their position.
The dog is not going anywhere.
See Spot run in circle
See Spot ain't going no where.
"Don't worry, he won't move from there."
Stars do not change the place or the position they are in.
So you changed your claim that Polaris doesn't move like the other stars
do around the celestial North Pole, and when Paul and I showed you to be wrong, you changed your claim to be something like the stars don't move across the sky, only in circles.
Volney wrote:
On 11/20/2023 2:42 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
Volney wrote:
On 11/20/2023 1:20 AM, Paul Alsing wrote:
On Sunday, November 19, 2023 at 9:27:14 PM UTC-8, The Starmaker wrote:
The Starmaker wrote:
Paul Alsing wrote:
On Sunday, November 19, 2023 at 1:40:11 PM UTC-8, The Starmaker wrote:
The Starmaker wrote:
Does that North star ever move???
The Starmaker wrote:
The Starmaker wrote:
earth and other things revolve
around the sun...
that can only mean one thing..
the sun is not moving.
it is my undrstanding...
the sun being a star..
that there are no stars that move.
Hey! Where is the Big Dipper? I don't see it...it must have moved! Where
did it go????
(by move, i mean move it's position)
Since it is not *exactly* above the pole, yes, it does.
You maean North of the North pole is...up?
Just because it is above/up the pole of the North pole above up doesn't
mean it is moving. Polaris does not move it's position. It is ...fixed.
It does not move.
Where does it say Polaris...moves?
Are you really this uninformed? ANY star that does not have a declination of +90 or -90 is going to rotate around the pole... period!
Since Polaris has a declination of +89° 15′ 51″, it does move in a
(small) circle. A circle more than the full moon.
It doesn't move from the place it is located. It might spin, revolve..go around in circles...but it doesn't move from it's position.
position means the place it is located. It won't move from that place.
If you tie a dog to a tree, you can say "Don't worry, he won't move from there."
He can bark, jump, or hang himself with the leash...but he won't move from there.
None of the stars in the universe ...move.
None of the stars in the universe will change their position.
The dog is not going anywhere.
See Spot run in circle
See Spot ain't going no where.
"Don't worry, he won't move from there."
Stars do not change the place or the position they are in.
So you changed your claim that Polaris doesn't move like the other stars do around the celestial North Pole, and when Paul and I showed you to be wrong, you changed your claim to be something like the stars don't move across the sky, only in circles.No, I did not 'change my claim'...
it's just yous people don't understand simple English.
I wrote "stars don't move'.
It's just that yous people don't understand the definition of the word..."move".
https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/move
to (cause to) change position:
a change of place, position, or state.
Stars do not change the place or the position they are in, ..they don't MOVE.
Stars do not change the place or the position they are in means in fact
the same thing..stars don't move!
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barnard%27s_Star
it's not my fault your english teacher was on vacation all year...
Volney wrote:
On 11/20/2023 2:42 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
Volney wrote:
On 11/20/2023 1:20 AM, Paul Alsing wrote:
On Sunday, November 19, 2023 at 9:27:14 PM UTC-8, The Starmaker wrote:
The Starmaker wrote:
Paul Alsing wrote:
On Sunday, November 19, 2023 at 1:40:11 PM UTC-8, The Starmaker wrote:
The Starmaker wrote:
Does that North star ever move???
The Starmaker wrote:
The Starmaker wrote:
earth and other things revolve
around the sun...
that can only mean one thing..
the sun is not moving.
it is my undrstanding...
the sun being a star..
that there are no stars that move.
Hey! Where is the Big Dipper? I don't see it...it must have moved! Where
did it go????
(by move, i mean move it's position)
Since it is not *exactly* above the pole, yes, it does.
You maean North of the North pole is...up?
Just because it is above/up the pole of the North pole above up doesn't
mean it is moving. Polaris does not move it's position. It is ...fixed.
It does not move.
Where does it say Polaris...moves?
Are you really this uninformed? ANY star that does not have a declination of +90 or -90 is going to rotate around the pole... period!
Since Polaris has a declination of +89° 15′ 51″, it does move in a
(small) circle. A circle more than the full moon.
It doesn't move from the place it is located. It might spin, revolve..go around in circles...but it doesn't move from it's position.
position means the place it is located. It won't move from that place.
If you tie a dog to a tree, you can say "Don't worry, he won't move from there."
He can bark, jump, or hang himself with the leash...but he won't move from there.
None of the stars in the universe ...move.
None of the stars in the universe will change their position.
The dog is not going anywhere.
See Spot run in circle
See Spot ain't going no where.
"Don't worry, he won't move from there."
Stars do not change the place or the position they are in.
So you changed your claim that Polaris doesn't move like the other stars
do around the celestial North Pole, and when Paul and I showed you to be wrong, you changed your claim to be something like the stars don't move across the sky, only in circles.
No, I did not 'change my claim'...
it's just yous people don't understand simple English.
I wrote "stars don't move'.
It's just that yous people don't understand the definition of the word..."move".
https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/move
to (cause to) change position:
a change of place, position, or state.
Stars do not change the place or the position they are in, ..they don't
MOVE.
Stars do not change the place or the position they are in means in fact
the same thing..stars don't move!
it's not my fault your english teacher was on vacation all year...
--
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
and challenge the unchallengeable.
On Wednesday, November 22, 2023 at 11:58:55 AM UTC-8, Maciej Wozniak wrote:
On Wednesday, 22 November 2023 at 20:52:33 UTC+1, Paul Alsing wrote:
On Wednesday, November 22, 2023 at 11:20:22 AM UTC-8, The Starmaker wrote:
maybe these other stars are so far away that it is hard for yous to be sure
(or not even there anymore)
but our sun doesn't move.
It might appear to move...Sure it does...
everything else is moving around it
(including the entire space..
but our sun doesn't move.
"Yes, the Sun - in fact, our whole solar system - orbits around the center of the Milky Way Galaxy.
So even you aren't really stupid enough to believe in relative motion, Al. Well, well.
Relative motion is obviously a real thing, Woz, no matter how many times you wish to deny it!
On Wednesday, November 22, 2023 at 11:20:22 AM UTC-8, The Starmaker wrote:around the Milky Way!"
maybe these other stars are so far away that it is hard for yous to be
sure
(or not even there anymore)
but our sun doesn't move.
It might appear to move...
everything else is moving around it
(including the entire space..
but our sun doesn't move.
Sure it does...
"Yes, the Sun - in fact, our whole solar system - orbits around the center of the Milky Way Galaxy. We are moving at an average velocity of 828,000 km/hr. But even at that high rate, it still takes us about 230 million years to make one complete orbit
https://starchild.gsfc.nasa.gov/docs/StarChild/questions/question18.html#:~:text=Yes%2C%20the%20Sun%20%2D%20in%20fact,Way%20is%20a%20spiral%20galaxy.looking at part of the illuminated side and part of the dark side. Why is this so hard for you to understand?
And what about our Moon? It don't move either!
Sure it does...
https://byjus.com/question-answer/how-fast-does-moon-need-to-travel-to-stay-in-it-s-orbit-explain/
https://byjus.com/question-answer/how-fast-does-moon-need-to-travel-to-stay-in-it-s-orbit-explain/
"The Moon orbits Earth at a speed of 2,288 miles per hour (3,683 kilometers per hour or 1.022 km/s). Its orbital period is 27 days. During this time it travels a distance of 1,423,000 miles."
i wanna see the dark side of the moon...but
for some reason it just doesn't wanna move.
You ignorance of the motions of astronomical bodies is huge.
Half of the moon is always dark, just like half of the Earth is always dark, just like every body in the solar system is always half in the dark. When you look at a full moon you are looking at the entire sunlit half, and the rest of the time you are
On the other hand you can never see the *far* side of the moon from the surface of the Earth, which, of course is also regularly illuminated by the Sun, just like the near side.
"the dark side" of our moon is eternally out of view, never facing the
earth. it's not moving. it is not going to turn around. it's fixed.
On 11/22/2023 2:52 PM, Paul Alsing wrote:looking at part of the illuminated side and part of the dark side. Why is this so hard for you to understand?
Half of the moon is always dark, just like half of the Earth is always dark, just like every body in the solar system is always half in the dark. When you look at a full moon you are looking at the entire sunlit half, and the rest of the time you are
On the other hand you can never see the *far* side of the moon from the surface of the Earth, which, of course is also regularly illuminated by the Sun, just like the near side.
An obsolete definition of 'dark' is 'unknown', and almost the only time you'll hear the word 'dark' used this way is 'dark side of the moon',
meaning the (once unknown) far side of the moon.
On Wednesday, November 22, 2023 at 10:31:11 PM UTC-8, The Starmaker wrote:are looking at part of the illuminated side and part of the dark side. Why is this so hard for you to understand?
Volney wrote:
On 11/22/2023 2:52 PM, Paul Alsing wrote:
Half of the moon is always dark, just like half of the Earth is always dark, just like every body in the solar system is always half in the dark. When you look at a full moon you are looking at the entire sunlit half, and the rest of the time you
On the other hand you can never see the *far* side of the moon from the surface of the Earth, which, of course is also regularly illuminated by the Sun, just like the near side.
An obsolete definition of 'dark' is 'unknown', and almost the only time you'll hear the word 'dark' used this way is 'dark side of the moon', meaning the (once unknown) far side of the moon.
he is toooo busy trying to figure out whether or not the moon revoles around the sun....
I am confident that were the Earth to suddenly disappear the moon would continue to happily circle the Sun. In fact, even in the current situation, the moon's orbit is *always* concave towards the Sun!
So yes, the moon revolves around the Sun with proportionally small perturbations in and out due to the gravitational field of the earth.
https://newt.phys.unsw.edu.au/~jw/moon2.html#:~:text=The%20curvature%20of%20the%20orbit,elliptical%20orbit%20about%20the%20sun.
"... the moon orbits the sun and is always falling towards it."
The Starmaker wrote:you are looking at part of the illuminated side and part of the dark side. Why is this so hard for you to understand?
Paul Alsing wrote:
On Wednesday, November 22, 2023 at 10:31:11 PM UTC-8, The Starmaker wrote:
Volney wrote:
On 11/22/2023 2:52 PM, Paul Alsing wrote:
Half of the moon is always dark, just like half of the Earth is always dark, just like every body in the solar system is always half in the dark. When you look at a full moon you are looking at the entire sunlit half, and the rest of the time
On the other hand you can never see the *far* side of the moon from the surface of the Earth, which, of course is also regularly illuminated by the Sun, just like the near side.
An obsolete definition of 'dark' is 'unknown', and almost the only time
you'll hear the word 'dark' used this way is 'dark side of the moon',
meaning the (once unknown) far side of the moon.
he is toooo busy trying to figure out whether or not the moon revoles around the sun....
I am confident that were the Earth to suddenly disappear the moon would continue to happily circle the Sun. In fact, even in the current situation, the moon's orbit is *always* concave towards the Sun!
So yes, the moon revolves around the Sun with proportionally small perturbations in and out due to the gravitational field of the earth.
https://newt.phys.unsw.edu.au/~jw/moon2.html#:~:text=The%20curvature%20of%20the%20orbit,elliptical%20orbit%20about%20the%20sun.
"... the moon orbits the sun and is always falling towards it."
if the moon revolves around the sun then by definition...the moon is a planet.
The force of the gravitational force of earth is more than the sun on
moon. So the moon revolves around the earth not the sun.
Paul Alsing wrote:you are looking at part of the illuminated side and part of the dark side. Why is this so hard for you to understand?
On Wednesday, November 22, 2023 at 10:31:11 PM UTC-8, The Starmaker wrote:
Volney wrote:
On 11/22/2023 2:52 PM, Paul Alsing wrote:
Half of the moon is always dark, just like half of the Earth is always dark, just like every body in the solar system is always half in the dark. When you look at a full moon you are looking at the entire sunlit half, and the rest of the time
On the other hand you can never see the *far* side of the moon from the surface of the Earth, which, of course is also regularly illuminated by the Sun, just like the near side.
An obsolete definition of 'dark' is 'unknown', and almost the only time you'll hear the word 'dark' used this way is 'dark side of the moon', meaning the (once unknown) far side of the moon.
he is toooo busy trying to figure out whether or not the moon revoles around the sun....
I am confident that were the Earth to suddenly disappear the moon would continue to happily circle the Sun. In fact, even in the current situation, the moon's orbit is *always* concave towards the Sun!
So yes, the moon revolves around the Sun with proportionally small perturbations in and out due to the gravitational field of the earth.
https://newt.phys.unsw.edu.au/~jw/moon2.html#:~:text=The%20curvature%20of%20the%20orbit,elliptical%20orbit%20about%20the%20sun.
"... the moon orbits the sun and is always falling towards it."
if the moon revolves around the sun then by definition...the moon is a planet.
On Thursday, November 23, 2023 at 10:31:36 PM UTC-8, The Starmaker wrote:time you are looking at part of the illuminated side and part of the dark side. Why is this so hard for you to understand?
The Starmaker wrote:
Paul Alsing wrote:
On Wednesday, November 22, 2023 at 10:31:11 PM UTC-8, The Starmaker wrote:
Volney wrote:
On 11/22/2023 2:52 PM, Paul Alsing wrote:
Half of the moon is always dark, just like half of the Earth is always dark, just like every body in the solar system is always half in the dark. When you look at a full moon you are looking at the entire sunlit half, and the rest of the
On the other hand you can never see the *far* side of the moon from the surface of the Earth, which, of course is also regularly illuminated by the Sun, just like the near side.
An obsolete definition of 'dark' is 'unknown', and almost the only time
you'll hear the word 'dark' used this way is 'dark side of the moon',
meaning the (once unknown) far side of the moon.
he is toooo busy trying to figure out whether or not the moon revoles around the sun....
I am confident that were the Earth to suddenly disappear the moon would continue to happily circle the Sun. In fact, even in the current situation, the moon's orbit is *always* concave towards the Sun!
So yes, the moon revolves around the Sun with proportionally small perturbations in and out due to the gravitational field of the earth.
https://newt.phys.unsw.edu.au/~jw/moon2.html#:~:text=The%20curvature%20of%20the%20orbit,elliptical%20orbit%20about%20the%20sun.
"... the moon orbits the sun and is always falling towards it."
if the moon revolves around the sun then by definition...the moon is a planet.
The force of the gravitational force of earth is more than the sun on
moon. So the moon revolves around the earth not the sun.
-
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
and challenge the unchallengeable.
Did you actually read the link I provided? What did it tell you? I never claimed that the moon is a planet. Read the dang article!
isn't it really the Sun that is actually revolving around the earth and
the moon???
On Friday, November 24, 2023 at 11:19:00 AM UTC-8, The Starmaker wrote:the time you are looking at part of the illuminated side and part of the dark side. Why is this so hard for you to understand?
Paul Alsing wrote:
On Thursday, November 23, 2023 at 10:31:36 PM UTC-8, The Starmaker wrote:
The Starmaker wrote:
Paul Alsing wrote:
On Wednesday, November 22, 2023 at 10:31:11 PM UTC-8, The Starmaker wrote:
Volney wrote:
On 11/22/2023 2:52 PM, Paul Alsing wrote:
Half of the moon is always dark, just like half of the Earth is always dark, just like every body in the solar system is always half in the dark. When you look at a full moon you are looking at the entire sunlit half, and the rest of
On the other hand you can never see the *far* side of the moon from the surface of the Earth, which, of course is also regularly illuminated by the Sun, just like the near side.
An obsolete definition of 'dark' is 'unknown', and almost the only time
you'll hear the word 'dark' used this way is 'dark side of the moon',
meaning the (once unknown) far side of the moon.
he is toooo busy trying to figure out whether or not the moon revoles
around the sun....
I am confident that were the Earth to suddenly disappear the moon would continue to happily circle the Sun. In fact, even in the current situation, the moon's orbit is *always* concave towards the Sun!
So yes, the moon revolves around the Sun with proportionally small perturbations in and out due to the gravitational field of the earth.
https://newt.phys.unsw.edu.au/~jw/moon2.html#:~:text=The%20curvature%20of%20the%20orbit,elliptical%20orbit%20about%20the%20sun.
"... the moon orbits the sun and is always falling towards it."
if the moon revolves around the sun then by definition...the moon is a
planet.
The force of the gravitational force of earth is more than the sun on moon. So the moon revolves around the earth not the sun.
-
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge the unchallengeable.
Did you actually read the link I provided? What did it tell you? I never claimed that the moon is a planet. Read the dang article!
isn't it really the Sun that is actually revolving around the earth and
the moon???
No, it is really that you are massively ignorant of the subject matter.
According to Relativity, the earth is at the center and the sun revolves around the earth relative to each other from a frame of reference using
the coordinate systems.
There is nothing that proves the sun is at the center. This is all mathematically correct according to Einstein theory relativity. Is he
wrong?
isn't it really the Sun that is actually revolving around the earth and
the moon???
On Friday, November 24, 2023 at 4:00:20 PM UTC-8, The Starmaker wrote:of the time you are looking at part of the illuminated side and part of the dark side. Why is this so hard for you to understand?
Paul Alsing wrote:
On Friday, November 24, 2023 at 11:19:00 AM UTC-8, The Starmaker wrote:
Paul Alsing wrote:
On Thursday, November 23, 2023 at 10:31:36 PM UTC-8, The Starmaker wrote:
The Starmaker wrote:
Paul Alsing wrote:
On Wednesday, November 22, 2023 at 10:31:11 PM UTC-8, The Starmaker wrote:
Volney wrote:
On 11/22/2023 2:52 PM, Paul Alsing wrote:
Half of the moon is always dark, just like half of the Earth is always dark, just like every body in the solar system is always half in the dark. When you look at a full moon you are looking at the entire sunlit half, and the rest
On the other hand you can never see the *far* side of the moon from the surface of the Earth, which, of course is also regularly illuminated by the Sun, just like the near side.
An obsolete definition of 'dark' is 'unknown', and almost the only time
you'll hear the word 'dark' used this way is 'dark side of the moon',
meaning the (once unknown) far side of the moon.
he is toooo busy trying to figure out whether or not the moon revoles
around the sun....
I am confident that were the Earth to suddenly disappear the moon would continue to happily circle the Sun. In fact, even in the current situation, the moon's orbit is *always* concave towards the Sun!
So yes, the moon revolves around the Sun with proportionally small perturbations in and out due to the gravitational field of the earth.
https://newt.phys.unsw.edu.au/~jw/moon2.html#:~:text=The%20curvature%20of%20the%20orbit,elliptical%20orbit%20about%20the%20sun.
"... the moon orbits the sun and is always falling towards it."
if the moon revolves around the sun then by definition...the moon is a
planet.
The force of the gravitational force of earth is more than the sun on
moon. So the moon revolves around the earth not the sun.
-
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
and challenge the unchallengeable.
Did you actually read the link I provided? What did it tell you? I never claimed that the moon is a planet. Read the dang article!
isn't it really the Sun that is actually revolving around the earth and the moon???
No, it is really that you are massively ignorant of the subject matter.
According to Relativity, the earth is at the center and the sun revolves around the earth relative to each other from a frame of reference using
the coordinate systems.
Wherever did you get this idea? Let' see a reference for this ridiculous claim!
On Friday, November 24, 2023 at 4:00:20 PM UTC-8, The Starmaker wrote:of the time you are looking at part of the illuminated side and part of the dark side. Why is this so hard for you to understand?
Paul Alsing wrote:
On Friday, November 24, 2023 at 11:19:00 AM UTC-8, The Starmaker wrote:
Paul Alsing wrote:
On Thursday, November 23, 2023 at 10:31:36 PM UTC-8, The Starmaker wrote:
The Starmaker wrote:
Paul Alsing wrote:
On Wednesday, November 22, 2023 at 10:31:11 PM UTC-8, The Starmaker wrote:
Volney wrote:
On 11/22/2023 2:52 PM, Paul Alsing wrote:
Half of the moon is always dark, just like half of the Earth is always dark, just like every body in the solar system is always half in the dark. When you look at a full moon you are looking at the entire sunlit half, and the rest
On the other hand you can never see the *far* side of the moon from the surface of the Earth, which, of course is also regularly illuminated by the Sun, just like the near side.
An obsolete definition of 'dark' is 'unknown', and almost the only time
you'll hear the word 'dark' used this way is 'dark side of the moon',
meaning the (once unknown) far side of the moon.
he is toooo busy trying to figure out whether or not the moon revoles
around the sun....
I am confident that were the Earth to suddenly disappear the moon would continue to happily circle the Sun. In fact, even in the current situation, the moon's orbit is *always* concave towards the Sun!
So yes, the moon revolves around the Sun with proportionally small perturbations in and out due to the gravitational field of the earth.
https://newt.phys.unsw.edu.au/~jw/moon2.html#:~:text=The%20curvature%20of%20the%20orbit,elliptical%20orbit%20about%20the%20sun.
"... the moon orbits the sun and is always falling towards it."
if the moon revolves around the sun then by definition...the moon is a
planet.
The force of the gravitational force of earth is more than the sun on
moon. So the moon revolves around the earth not the sun.
-
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
and challenge the unchallengeable.
Did you actually read the link I provided? What did it tell you? I never claimed that the moon is a planet. Read the dang article!
isn't it really the Sun that is actually revolving around the earth and the moon???
No, it is really that you are massively ignorant of the subject matter.
According to Relativity, the earth is at the center and the sun revolves around the earth relative to each other from a frame of reference using
the coordinate systems.
Wherever did you get this idea? Let' see a reference for this ridiculous claim!
Paul Alsing wrote:you are looking at part of the illuminated side and part of the dark side. Why is this so hard for you to understand?
On Friday, November 24, 2023 at 11:19:00 AM UTC-8, The Starmaker wrote: >>> Paul Alsing wrote:
On Thursday, November 23, 2023 at 10:31:36 PM UTC-8, The Starmaker wrote:
The Starmaker wrote:
Paul Alsing wrote:
On Wednesday, November 22, 2023 at 10:31:11 PM UTC-8, The Starmaker wrote:
Volney wrote:
On 11/22/2023 2:52 PM, Paul Alsing wrote:
Half of the moon is always dark, just like half of the Earth is always dark, just like every body in the solar system is always half in the dark. When you look at a full moon you are looking at the entire sunlit half, and the rest of the time
The force of the gravitational force of earth is more than the sun on >>>>> moon. So the moon revolves around the earth not the sun.
On the other hand you can never see the *far* side of the moon from the surface of the Earth, which, of course is also regularly illuminated by the Sun, just like the near side.
An obsolete definition of 'dark' is 'unknown', and almost the only time
you'll hear the word 'dark' used this way is 'dark side of the moon', >>>>>>>>> meaning the (once unknown) far side of the moon.
he is toooo busy trying to figure out whether or not the moon revoles >>>>>>>> around the sun....
I am confident that were the Earth to suddenly disappear the moon would continue to happily circle the Sun. In fact, even in the current situation, the moon's orbit is *always* concave towards the Sun!
So yes, the moon revolves around the Sun with proportionally small perturbations in and out due to the gravitational field of the earth.
https://newt.phys.unsw.edu.au/~jw/moon2.html#:~:text=The%20curvature%20of%20the%20orbit,elliptical%20orbit%20about%20the%20sun.
"... the moon orbits the sun and is always falling towards it."
if the moon revolves around the sun then by definition...the moon is a >>>>>> planet.
-
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, >>>>> and challenge the unchallengeable.
Did you actually read the link I provided? What did it tell you? I never claimed that the moon is a planet. Read the dang article!
isn't it really the Sun that is actually revolving around the earth and
the moon???
No, it is really that you are massively ignorant of the subject matter.
According to Relativity, the earth is at the center and the sun revolves around the earth relative to each other from a frame of reference using
the coordinate systems.
There is nothing that proves the sun is at the center. This is all mathematically correct according to Einstein theory relativity. Is he
wrong?
Am 25.11.2023 um 01:00 schrieb The Starmaker:time you are looking at part of the illuminated side and part of the dark side. Why is this so hard for you to understand?
Paul Alsing wrote:
On Friday, November 24, 2023 at 11:19:00 AM UTC-8, The Starmaker wrote:
Paul Alsing wrote:
On Thursday, November 23, 2023 at 10:31:36 PM UTC-8, The Starmaker wrote:
The Starmaker wrote:
Paul Alsing wrote:
On Wednesday, November 22, 2023 at 10:31:11 PM UTC-8, The Starmaker wrote:
Volney wrote:
On 11/22/2023 2:52 PM, Paul Alsing wrote:
Half of the moon is always dark, just like half of the Earth is always dark, just like every body in the solar system is always half in the dark. When you look at a full moon you are looking at the entire sunlit half, and the rest of the
The force of the gravitational force of earth is more than the sun on >>>>> moon. So the moon revolves around the earth not the sun.if the moon revolves around the sun then by definition...the moon is a
On the other hand you can never see the *far* side of the moon from the surface of the Earth, which, of course is also regularly illuminated by the Sun, just like the near side.
An obsolete definition of 'dark' is 'unknown', and almost the only time
you'll hear the word 'dark' used this way is 'dark side of the moon',
meaning the (once unknown) far side of the moon.
he is toooo busy trying to figure out whether or not the moon revoles
around the sun....
I am confident that were the Earth to suddenly disappear the moon would continue to happily circle the Sun. In fact, even in the current situation, the moon's orbit is *always* concave towards the Sun!
So yes, the moon revolves around the Sun with proportionally small perturbations in and out due to the gravitational field of the earth.
https://newt.phys.unsw.edu.au/~jw/moon2.html#:~:text=The%20curvature%20of%20the%20orbit,elliptical%20orbit%20about%20the%20sun.
"... the moon orbits the sun and is always falling towards it." >>>>>>
planet.
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The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, >>>>> to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
and challenge the unchallengeable.
Did you actually read the link I provided? What did it tell you? I never claimed that the moon is a planet. Read the dang article!
isn't it really the Sun that is actually revolving around the earth and >>> the moon???
No, it is really that you are massively ignorant of the subject matter.
According to Relativity, the earth is at the center and the sun revolves around the earth relative to each other from a frame of reference using the coordinate systems.
There is nothing that proves the sun is at the center. This is all mathematically correct according to Einstein theory relativity. Is he wrong?
Actually the sun circles around in our galaxacy, too.
In the end we have objects moving in the form of helical spirals, which revolve around even larger helical spirals, which circle around even
larger helical spirals...
You need to consider the solar system in total as kind of 'disk-shaped object', which moves in a helical spiral with its main axis perpendicual
to the 'disk' (our solar system).
This should also belong to some kind of disk-shaped system, which also spirals along a helical path around the center of our galaxy.
The solar system itself also consists of such helical spirals, if you
regard the Earth-Moon-system as kind of 'disk shaped object', which
circles around within the solar system.
TH
The Starmaker wrote:
if the moon revolves around the sun then by definition...the moon is a
planet.
The force of the gravitational force of earth is more than the sun on
moon. So the moon revolves around the earth not the sun.
On 11/24/2023 1:31 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
The Starmaker wrote:
if the moon revolves around the sun then by definition...the moon is a
planet.
The force of the gravitational force of earth is more than the sun on
moon. So the moon revolves around the earth not the sun.
The force of the sun on the moon is about twice that of the earth on the moon. That's why the moon's path around the sun is a wiggly ellipse and always curves toward the sun, even during the new moon when the earth
and sun are pulling it in opposite directions.
Paul Alsing wrote:of the time you are looking at part of the illuminated side and part of the dark side. Why is this so hard for you to understand?
On Friday, November 24, 2023 at 4:00:20 PM UTC-8, The Starmaker wrote:
Paul Alsing wrote:
On Friday, November 24, 2023 at 11:19:00 AM UTC-8, The Starmaker wrote:
Paul Alsing wrote:
On Thursday, November 23, 2023 at 10:31:36 PM UTC-8, The Starmaker wrote:
The Starmaker wrote:
Paul Alsing wrote:
On Wednesday, November 22, 2023 at 10:31:11 PM UTC-8, The Starmaker wrote:
Volney wrote:
On 11/22/2023 2:52 PM, Paul Alsing wrote:
Half of the moon is always dark, just like half of the Earth is always dark, just like every body in the solar system is always half in the dark. When you look at a full moon you are looking at the entire sunlit half, and the rest
On the other hand you can never see the *far* side of the moon from the surface of the Earth, which, of course is also regularly illuminated by the Sun, just like the near side.
An obsolete definition of 'dark' is 'unknown', and almost the only time
you'll hear the word 'dark' used this way is 'dark side of the moon',
meaning the (once unknown) far side of the moon.
he is toooo busy trying to figure out whether or not the moon revoles
around the sun....
I am confident that were the Earth to suddenly disappear the moon would continue to happily circle the Sun. In fact, even in the current situation, the moon's orbit is *always* concave towards the Sun!
So yes, the moon revolves around the Sun with proportionally small perturbations in and out due to the gravitational field of the earth.
https://newt.phys.unsw.edu.au/~jw/moon2.html#:~:text=The%20curvature%20of%20the%20orbit,elliptical%20orbit%20about%20the%20sun.
"... the moon orbits the sun and is always falling towards it."
if the moon revolves around the sun then by definition...the moon is a
planet.
The force of the gravitational force of earth is more than the sun on
moon. So the moon revolves around the earth not the sun.
-
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
and challenge the unchallengeable.
Did you actually read the link I provided? What did it tell you? I never claimed that the moon is a planet. Read the dang article!
isn't it really the Sun that is actually revolving around the earth and
the moon???
No, it is really that you are massively ignorant of the subject matter.
According to Relativity, the earth is at the center and the sun revolves around the earth relative to each other from a frame of reference using the coordinate systems.
Wherever did you get this idea? Let' see a reference for this ridiculous claim!
Reference???? I'll put the reference even your child mind can
understand...
From the reference of the earth, the sun revolves around the earth.
From the reference of the sun, the earth revolves around the sun.
You can change the word "reference relative or perpective...it
remains the same.
In Albert Einstein's Relativity.. they are both correct.
How's the planet moon doing?
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to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
and challenge the unchallengeable.
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