• Carl Sagan

    From The Starmaker@21:1/5 to All on Sat Dec 16 12:40:11 2023
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    Carl Edward Sagan was an American astronomer and science communicator.
    His best known scientific contribution is his research on the possibility of extraterrestrial life.
    He assembled the first physical messages sent into space
    which were universal messages that could potentially be understood by any extraterrestrial intelligence that might find them.


    Astronomy is the study of everything in the universe beyond Earth's atmosphere.


    That means a space nut.



    'beyond Earth's atmosphere' means he knew he wasn't allowed to study...earth science.


    There are no other samples to comare it with so why bother learning earth science????

    There is no organic soil anywhere else in the universe...




    You people are not allowed to study...earth science.



    any trees on Mars? or Venus?? ...anywhere else???



    You people are not allowed to study...earth science.










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  • From The Starmaker@21:1/5 to Physfitfreak on Sat Dec 16 21:08:01 2023
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    Physfitfreak wrote:

    On 12/16/2023 2:40 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
    Carl Edward Sagan was an American astronomer and science communicator.
    His best known scientific contribution is his research on the possibility of extraterrestrial life.
    He assembled the first physical messages sent into space
    which were universal messages that could potentially be understood by any extraterrestrial intelligence that might find them.


    Astronomy is the study of everything in the universe beyond Earth's atmosphere.


    That means a space nut.



    'beyond Earth's atmosphere' means he knew he wasn't allowed to study...earth science.


    There are no other samples to comare it with so why bother learning earth science????

    There is no organic soil anywhere else in the universe...




    You people are not allowed to study...earth science.



    any trees on Mars? or Venus?? ...anywhere else???



    You people are not allowed to study...earth science.





    Don't get mad now that you found out it was Velikovsky who said that,
    not Sagan.


    Never heard da name Velikovsky...not even worth googling it.


    My info comes from book Cosmos...you probably forgot who wrote it or
    wats in it for sure.





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  • From The Starmaker@21:1/5 to Physfitfreak on Sat Dec 16 21:30:31 2023
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    Physfitfreak wrote:

    On 12/16/2023 11:08 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
    Physfitfreak wrote:

    On 12/16/2023 2:40 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
    Carl Edward Sagan was an American astronomer and science communicator. >>> His best known scientific contribution is his research on the possibility of extraterrestrial life.
    He assembled the first physical messages sent into space
    which were universal messages that could potentially be understood by any extraterrestrial intelligence that might find them.


    Astronomy is the study of everything in the universe beyond Earth's atmosphere.


    That means a space nut.



    'beyond Earth's atmosphere' means he knew he wasn't allowed to study...earth science.


    There are no other samples to comare it with so why bother learning earth science????

    There is no organic soil anywhere else in the universe...




    You people are not allowed to study...earth science.



    any trees on Mars? or Venus?? ...anywhere else???



    You people are not allowed to study...earth science.





    Don't get mad now that you found out it was Velikovsky who said that,
    not Sagan.


    Never heard da name Velikovsky...not even worth googling it.


    My info comes from book Cosmos...you probably forgot who wrote it or
    wats in it for sure.




    Your info, perhaps. But was that quote from Cosmos also, and verbatim?
    Or did you just say it from your memory?

    I wrote:

    "okay, here are the order of events by Carl Sagan...

    'trees formed the primitive atmosphere of earth and the first oceans.'


    should be easy for you to understand as layman as I could put it."


    "...as layman as I could put it". That mean, simple language.


    The word "tree" might be too difficult for you to understand.


    Carl Sagan didn't use the word 'tree', he used it's composition: hydrogen and methane.

    He is not allowed to say the word...'tree'.

    I bet a million dollars you don't know where 'trees' come from! A MILLION DOLLARS!!!

    You don't know what you don't know and what you are not allowed to know.



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  • From The Starmaker@21:1/5 to Physfitfreak on Sun Dec 17 12:14:20 2023
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity

    Physfitfreak wrote:

    On 12/17/2023 12:05 AM, Physfitfreak wrote:
    On 12/16/2023 11:36 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:
    On 12/16/2023 11:08 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
    Never heard da name Velikovsky...not even worth googling it


    Velikovsky was a cool guy in fact :) A keen sense of business, using
    cro-magnon features in the American societies. It got him a lot of
    money! Even in 1990s, at workplace when someone wanted to bring up a
    "scientific" fact about the world, they'd tell me with enthusiasm how
    they enjoyed reading of "Worlds in Collision" (or something) by
    Velikovsky. Americans were still reading those early 1950s stuff!...
    more than 40 years after they appeared. So the guy was smart and knew
    what he was doing. And did it perfectly well. Hahahah :))

    Sagan was too good for that level of people (much higher in number
    compared to Sagan's readers), and couldn't sell well among them.
    Velikovsky had placed himself right at the correct position, targeting
    the largest part of Americans that read books at all. Very clever way
    of making a lot of money.

    This Archie here isn't even a fart compared with Velikovsky, although
    is trying to do the same. In fact, I don't think he has had any of his
    ebooks read by even by one person :) So describing him as "fart"
    indeed is an overestimation. Big strategic mistake, costing him a lot
    of time wasted. He chose the wrong subject. Americans aren't
    interested in physics and math. As simple as that.

    Velikovsky, on the other had, cleverly made his claims about the Earth
    and solar system carefully look similar to Americans' religious
    beliefs! So everybody who knew something about Bible would get
    immensely curious to see what this "scientist" was saying. He said
    everything in a way to give it a scientific tone. Very clever.

    Sagan, had another formula for making his books successful, which
    satiated the appetites of much fewer people in the USA.






    Sagan was very successful in selling his books too, but nothing compared
    to Velikovsky. He was so pissed at Velikovsky for giving bullshit to
    dumb people, making them even more removed from reality, and making 50 times more money in doing that compared with himself. So there was this intense resentment between the scientist Sagan, towards the businessman Velikovsky hiding himself inside a scientist's shell.

    Very interesting situation :)

    Velikovsky was no stranger with true science (he had several degrees in various fields), but was trying to make a lot of money, not to educate people about anything. He just used the "science" theme because he knew
    it would work pretty well when making it look like something close to religious predictions crap. His formula was pure gold.


    In fact, I just checked, _all_ his books are still in print and being
    newly printed. They're still selling like hell. 70 years after first
    coming out and making him rich throughout 1950s and 60s and 70s, till
    the last day he lived; and they're still pouring money into pockets of whoever that owns the rights to his works. A testament to the fact that American society has not taken one step away from total ignorance and isolation.

    His books are written for Sheep. For the exact way through which Sheep
    look at "science". And sheep, American people have been and are, and
    will be in the future as long as their isolation from reality is
    maintained.

    Like you said, you're not a business. Carl Sagan was a 'TVeee
    Scientists'.

    That means every time a cow burbed or an apple fell from a tree the
    media would call him and he was ON THE AIR...selling books.

    He'd be on the radio stations all over the united states talking on the
    phone
    and showing up at TV News stations all over the usa.

    They are the ones who sold his books.

    Each radion and tvee stations has millions of viewers and listners.


    dat is how you sell books.

    Everybody at FoxNews automatically has a number one best seller.

    And it's not because the book is good.

    "These Boots Are Made For Walking." was a hit because
    Frank Sinatra made the radio stations play it oven and over and over and over....










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  • From The Starmaker@21:1/5 to Physfitfreak on Sun Dec 17 13:04:44 2023
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    Physfitfreak wrote:

    On 12/16/2023 11:30 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
    Carl Sagan didn't use the word 'tree', he used it's composition: hydrogen and methane.

    He is not allowed to say the word...'tree'.

    What!... You son of a gun. So he didn't say "tree" and you quoted him as saying "tree."

    That explains it then :)

    Hahhha :)

    It's just you are not at a level of understanding 'what a tree is'.

    Here is the full quote from Carl Sagan:


    "Congealing and warming, the Earth released the methane,
    ammonia, water and hydrogen gases that had been trapped
    within, forming the primitive atmosphere and the first oceans." --Carl
    Sagan

    'methane, ammonia, water and hydrogen' come from a 'tree'.


    In layman's terms, The tree formed
    the primitive atmosphere and the first oceans.

    For example: ammonia comes from the leaf that fell on the ground and
    decayed.

    I could go on and on but it would be...perpetual.

    You're just going to have to learn about methane and hydrogen on your
    own.

    I no longer teach at Harvard.

    you're going to have to...read a book.





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  • From The Starmaker@21:1/5 to Physfitfreak on Sun Dec 17 15:28:41 2023
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    Physfitfreak wrote:

    On 12/17/2023 3:04 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
    I no longer teach at Harvard.

    you're going to have to...read a book.

    What subject did you teach at Harvard?

    How To Start Your Own Mafia






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  • From The Starmaker@21:1/5 to Physfitfreak on Sun Dec 17 21:26:15 2023
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity

    Physfitfreak wrote:

    On 12/17/2023 5:28 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
    Physfitfreak wrote:

    On 12/17/2023 3:04 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
    I no longer teach at Harvard.

    you're going to have to...read a book.

    What subject did you teach at Harvard?

    How To Start Your Own Mafia







    I bet they believed everything you said, with that accent :)

    If you buy a McDonald's franchise, it is by Mac law that it is
    far from another MacDonalds in the area.

    If you open up a Pizza place..
    and a guy opens up
    a pizza place across the street from you...
    by M law you have a right
    to burn down dat guys pizza place.


    (without da accent)





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  • From Volney@21:1/5 to The Starmaker on Tue Dec 19 00:06:48 2023
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity

    On 12/17/2023 4:04 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
    Physfitfreak wrote:

    On 12/16/2023 11:30 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
    Carl Sagan didn't use the word 'tree', he used it's composition: hydrogen and methane.

    He is not allowed to say the word...'tree'.

    What!... You son of a gun. So he didn't say "tree" and you quoted him as
    saying "tree."

    That explains it then :)

    Hahhha :)

    It's just you are not at a level of understanding 'what a tree is'.

    Here is the full quote from Carl Sagan:


    "Congealing and warming, the Earth released the methane,
    ammonia, water and hydrogen gases that had been trapped
    within, forming the primitive atmosphere and the first oceans." --Carl
    Sagan

    'methane, ammonia, water and hydrogen' come from a 'tree'.

    So you admit Carl Sagan didn't say the primitive atmosphere and oceans
    came from trees. You did.

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  • From The Starmaker@21:1/5 to Volney on Mon Dec 18 21:45:36 2023
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity

    Volney wrote:

    On 12/17/2023 4:04 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
    Physfitfreak wrote:

    On 12/16/2023 11:30 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
    Carl Sagan didn't use the word 'tree', he used it's composition: hydrogen and methane.

    He is not allowed to say the word...'tree'.

    What!... You son of a gun. So he didn't say "tree" and you quoted him as >> saying "tree."

    That explains it then :)

    Hahhha :)

    It's just you are not at a level of understanding 'what a tree is'.

    Here is the full quote from Carl Sagan:


    "Congealing and warming, the Earth released the methane,
    ammonia, water and hydrogen gases that had been trapped
    within, forming the primitive atmosphere and the first oceans." --Carl Sagan

    'methane, ammonia, water and hydrogen' come from a 'tree'.

    So you admit Carl Sagan didn't say the primitive atmosphere and oceans
    came from trees. You did.

    'the Earth released the methane, ammonia, water and hydrogen gases' is
    another word for...trees.

    Sagan is not allowed to say the word "trees", so he broke down the
    composition of trees and
    wrote that instead...but methane, ammonia, water and hydrogen
    means...trees!

    Sagan is afraid to use the word "God" because his peers would frown on
    him for using the word "God".

    Trees deliver the water from it's rain forest forming the primitive
    atmosphere and the first oceans.

    and the rain forest continued to deliver the water through rivers and
    keep the ocean liquid.

    the first oceans came from trees (science lingo for trees is methane,
    ammonia, water and hydrogen gases)

    Did anybody get the Noble Prize for saying a metor killed all the
    dinosaurs????

    No, because it is a lie. and everybody knows it.


    Where do trees come from? No one here has the right answer except...me.


    I can even point a link that answers the question and yous will still
    get it wrong!




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  • From Volney@21:1/5 to The Starmaker on Tue Dec 19 01:01:42 2023
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    On 12/19/2023 12:45 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
    Volney wrote:

    On 12/17/2023 4:04 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
    Physfitfreak wrote:

    On 12/16/2023 11:30 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
    Carl Sagan didn't use the word 'tree', he used it's composition: hydrogen and methane.

    He is not allowed to say the word...'tree'.

    What!... You son of a gun. So he didn't say "tree" and you quoted him as >>>> saying "tree."

    That explains it then :)

    Hahhha :)

    It's just you are not at a level of understanding 'what a tree is'.

    Here is the full quote from Carl Sagan:


    "Congealing and warming, the Earth released the methane,
    ammonia, water and hydrogen gases that had been trapped
    within, forming the primitive atmosphere and the first oceans." --Carl
    Sagan

    'methane, ammonia, water and hydrogen' come from a 'tree'.

    So you admit Carl Sagan didn't say the primitive atmosphere and oceans
    came from trees. You did.

    'the Earth released the methane, ammonia, water and hydrogen gases' is another word for...trees.

    You just made that up. No mention of trees.

    Sagan is not allowed to say the word "trees",

    And who disallowed him from using the word "trees", and why? Again,
    that's just garbage you made up.

    so he broke down the
    composition of trees and
    wrote that instead...but methane, ammonia, water and hydrogen
    means...trees!

    Those compounds form naturally in the early solar environment, no trees
    needed. Look at the gas giant planets.

    the first oceans came from trees (science lingo for trees is methane, ammonia, water and hydrogen gases)

    Again, more garbage you made up.

    Your attempt to create the most absurd "theory" possible, that trees
    formed the oceans, is admirable, but still doesn't beat even more absurd "theories", such as the entire universe is some cosmic plutonium atom,
    as well as a few other beauts. The judges give you a 9 in effort!

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  • From The Starmaker@21:1/5 to Volney on Mon Dec 18 22:41:12 2023
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    Volney wrote:

    On 12/19/2023 12:45 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
    Volney wrote:

    On 12/17/2023 4:04 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
    Physfitfreak wrote:

    On 12/16/2023 11:30 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
    Carl Sagan didn't use the word 'tree', he used it's composition: hydrogen and methane.

    He is not allowed to say the word...'tree'.

    What!... You son of a gun. So he didn't say "tree" and you quoted him as >>>> saying "tree."

    That explains it then :)

    Hahhha :)

    It's just you are not at a level of understanding 'what a tree is'.

    Here is the full quote from Carl Sagan:


    "Congealing and warming, the Earth released the methane,
    ammonia, water and hydrogen gases that had been trapped
    within, forming the primitive atmosphere and the first oceans." --Carl >>> Sagan

    'methane, ammonia, water and hydrogen' come from a 'tree'.

    So you admit Carl Sagan didn't say the primitive atmosphere and oceans
    came from trees. You did.

    'the Earth released the methane, ammonia, water and hydrogen gases' is another word for...trees.

    You just made that up. No mention of trees.

    Sagan is not allowed to say the word "trees",

    And who disallowed him from using the word "trees", and why? Again,
    that's just garbage you made up.

    so he broke down the
    composition of trees and
    wrote that instead...but methane, ammonia, water and hydrogen means...trees!

    Those compounds form naturally in the early solar environment, no trees needed. Look at the gas giant planets.

    the first oceans came from trees (science lingo for trees is methane, ammonia, water and hydrogen gases)

    Again, more garbage you made up.

    Your attempt to create the most absurd "theory" possible, that trees
    formed the oceans, is admirable, but still doesn't beat even more absurd "theories", such as the entire universe is some cosmic plutonium atom,
    as well as a few other beauts. The judges give you a 9 in effort!


    Are you forgetting that all the fishes in the ocean come from the leaves
    on the trees?


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  • From The Starmaker@21:1/5 to The Starmaker on Mon Dec 18 23:08:55 2023
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    The Starmaker wrote:

    Volney wrote:

    On 12/19/2023 12:45 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
    Volney wrote:

    On 12/17/2023 4:04 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
    Physfitfreak wrote:

    On 12/16/2023 11:30 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
    Carl Sagan didn't use the word 'tree', he used it's composition: hydrogen and methane.

    He is not allowed to say the word...'tree'.

    What!... You son of a gun. So he didn't say "tree" and you quoted him as
    saying "tree."

    That explains it then :)

    Hahhha :)

    It's just you are not at a level of understanding 'what a tree is'.

    Here is the full quote from Carl Sagan:


    "Congealing and warming, the Earth released the methane,
    ammonia, water and hydrogen gases that had been trapped
    within, forming the primitive atmosphere and the first oceans." --Carl >>> Sagan

    'methane, ammonia, water and hydrogen' come from a 'tree'.

    So you admit Carl Sagan didn't say the primitive atmosphere and oceans >> came from trees. You did.

    'the Earth released the methane, ammonia, water and hydrogen gases' is another word for...trees.

    You just made that up. No mention of trees.

    Sagan is not allowed to say the word "trees",

    And who disallowed him from using the word "trees", and why? Again,
    that's just garbage you made up.

    so he broke down the
    composition of trees and
    wrote that instead...but methane, ammonia, water and hydrogen means...trees!

    Those compounds form naturally in the early solar environment, no trees needed. Look at the gas giant planets.

    the first oceans came from trees (science lingo for trees is methane, ammonia, water and hydrogen gases)

    Again, more garbage you made up.

    Your attempt to create the most absurd "theory" possible, that trees
    formed the oceans, is admirable, but still doesn't beat even more absurd "theories", such as the entire universe is some cosmic plutonium atom,
    as well as a few other beauts. The judges give you a 9 in effort!

    Are you forgetting that all the fishes in the ocean come from the leaves
    on the trees?


    "99 percent of the Earth’s atmo¬
    sphere is of biological origin." -Carl Sagan


    bi·o·log·i·cal
    /?bi?'läj?k(?)l/
    adjective
    1.
    relating to biology or living organisms.
    botanical


    bo·tan·i·cal
    /b?'tan?k(?)l/
    adjective
    adjective: botanical
    relating to plants.

    A tree is a plant.


    In other words...


    "99 percent of the Earth’s atmosphere is of trees origin."



    I'll go one step further...


    In fact, the trees in the rain forest which covered the whole entire
    earth at that time, there was sooo much rain from the rain forest that
    it drowned the earth and covered it mostly with with water.

    All the trees and plants found itself in...water.


    That was the Rain Age.







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  • From Volney@21:1/5 to The Starmaker on Tue Dec 19 14:26:24 2023
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity

    On 12/19/2023 1:41 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
    Volney wrote:

    Your attempt to create the most absurd "theory" possible, that trees
    formed the oceans, is admirable, but still doesn't beat even more absurd
    "theories", such as the entire universe is some cosmic plutonium atom,
    as well as a few other beauts. The judges give you a 9 in effort!


    Are you forgetting that all the fishes in the ocean come from the leaves
    on the trees?

    Your attempt to beat the cosmic plutonium atom absurdity by saying fish
    are leaves was valiant but still falls short. The judges, however, now
    award you a 9.5 in effort.

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  • From The Starmaker@21:1/5 to Volney on Tue Dec 19 12:39:07 2023
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity

    Volney wrote:

    On 12/19/2023 1:41 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
    Volney wrote:

    Your attempt to create the most absurd "theory" possible, that trees
    formed the oceans, is admirable, but still doesn't beat even more absurd >> "theories", such as the entire universe is some cosmic plutonium atom,
    as well as a few other beauts. The judges give you a 9 in effort!


    Are you forgetting that all the fishes in the ocean come from the leaves
    on the trees?

    Your attempt to beat the cosmic plutonium atom absurdity by saying fish
    are leaves was valiant but still falls short. The judges, however, now
    award you a 9.5 in effort.


    On the cover of this Science Journal Science Magazine..
    you will see a Brown leaf...
    but it is not a Brown leaf..it's an insect. https://twitter.com/Starmaker111/status/1166218593597444102/photo/1

    (i didn't have room on the cover to put REAL fishes from leaves)


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  • From The Starmaker@21:1/5 to starmaker@ix.netcom.com on Fri Dec 22 21:13:14 2023
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity

    On Sat, 16 Dec 2023 12:40:11 -0800, The Starmaker
    <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

    Carl Edward Sagan was an American astronomer and science communicator.
    His best known scientific contribution is his research on the possibility of extraterrestrial life.
    He assembled the first physical messages sent into space
    which were universal messages that could potentially be understood by any extraterrestrial intelligence that might find them.


    Astronomy is the study of everything in the universe beyond Earth's atmosphere.


    That means a space nut.


    PERHAPS


    per·haps
    /p?r'(h)aps/
    adverb
    used to express uncertainty or possibility.

    https://www.google.com/search?q=define+perhaps


    Perhaps.

    Carl Sagan was a con artist. Instead of saying "possibility", he
    would say over and over..."perhaps".


    They say that Carl Sagan only wrote one science fiction book, Contact.

    Cosmos is one of the bestselling science books of all time!

    Is it science fiction or non-fiction????

    Perhaps it's really a science fiction book.


    just a few Quotes from the book Cosmos by Carl Sagan:



    In all the galaxies, there are
    perhaps as many planets as stars

    Perhaps many stars have planetary systems rather like
    our own: at the periphery, great gaseous ringed planets and icy
    moons, and nearer to the center, small, warm, blue-white, cloud-
    covered worlds.

    Perhaps some day we will know them.

    Perhaps the origin and evolution of life is, given enough
    time, a cosmic inevitability.

    The fossil evidence could be consistent with the idea of a
    Great Designer; perhaps some species are destroyed when the
    Designer becomes dissatisfied with them, and new experiments
    are attempted on an improved design.


    We know from the fossil record that the origin of life
    happened soon after, perhaps around 4.0 billion years ago, in the
    ponds and oceans of the primitive Earth.

    Perhaps there are
    many other planets that today have abundant microbes but no
    big beasts and vegetables.

    Isaac Newton was perhaps
    the greatest scientific genius who ever lived.

    Perhaps it was
    a spaceship of some unimaginably advanced extraterrestrial

    And if there are swamps, why not cycads and dragonflies and
    perhaps even dinosaurs on Venus?

    Perhaps there was an engineering failure just at the moment of
    touchdown. Or perhaps there is something particularly danger-
    ous about the Martian surface.

    Perhaps there are large lifeforms on Mars, but not in our two
    landing sites. Perhaps there are smaller forms in every rock and
    sand grain.

    perhaps even many of the same
    basic molecules, such as proteins and nucleic acids—but put to-
    gether in unfamiliar ways. Perhaps organisms that float in dense
    planetary atmospheres will be very much like us in their atomic
    composition, except they might not have bones and therefore
    not need much calcium. Perhaps elsewhere some solvent other
    than water is used.

    Perhaps time itself
    has many potential dimensions, despite the fact that we are con-
    demned to experience only one of them.

    magic gravity machine—a device with which we could control
    the Earth’s gravity, perhaps by turning a dial.

    But perhaps more interesting is the question of higher dimen-
    sions. Could there be a fourth physical dimension?



    I'm not even halfway with these "perhaps"/ uncertainty or possibility
    quotes from this just one book Cosmos...


    There is nothing in Carls Sagan book Cosmos that is truly non-fiction.


    It's ALL science fintion!


    magic gravity machine?

    dats non-fiction, right? give me a break!



    There is a higher fourth physical dimension.'...


    That's the signpost up ahead—your next stop, the Twilight Zone!









    --
    The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
    to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, and challenge
    the unchallengeable.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From The Starmaker@21:1/5 to Physfitfreak on Fri Dec 22 23:20:44 2023
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity

    Physfitfreak wrote:

    On 12/22/2023 11:13 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
    And if there are swamps, why not cycads and dragonflies and
    perhaps even dinosaurs on Venus?

    This "quote" doesn't make sense. Are you again playing around with what
    Sagan said or didn't say? :)

    Did you get your quotes, all, from Cosmos or did you use earlier stuff published by him as well?

    Cosmos was printed in 1980, a few years _after_ Russian probes on Venus reported what was going on and that the possibility of life in those condition were zilch.


    This post is about the word "perhaps". You're unable to focus.

    Do I gotta post the whole book so you can get unfocus again?

    The absence of anything to see on Venus led some scientists to
    the curious conclusion that the surface was a swamp, like the
    Earth in the Carboniferous Period. The argument—if we can
    dignify it by such a word—went something like this:

    “I can’t see a thing on Venus.”

    “Why not?”

    “Because it’s totally covered with clouds.”

    “What are clouds made of?”

    “Water, of course.”

    “Then why are the clouds of Venus thicker than the
    clouds on Earth?”

    “Because there’s more water there.”

    “But if there is more water in the clouds, there must be
    more water on the surface. What kind of surfaces are very-
    wet:

    swamps.

    And if there are swamps, why not cycads and dragonflies and
    perhaps even dinosaurs on Venus? Observation: There was ab-
    solutely nothing to see on Venus. Conclusion: It must be covered
    with life. The featureless clouds of Venus reflected our own
    predispositions. We are alive, and we resonate with the idea of
    life elsewhere. But only careful accumulation and assessment of
    the evidence can tell us whether a given world is inhabited.
    Venus turns out not to oblige our predispositions.





    Does that help you understand the word "perhaps"?





    PERHAPS


    per·haps
    /p?r'(h)aps/
    adverb
    used to express uncertainty or possibility.

    https://www.google.com/search?q=define+perhaps


    Perhaps.

    Carl Sagan was a con artist. Instead of saying "possibility", he
    would say over and over..."perhaps".


    They say that Carl Sagan only wrote one science fiction book, Contact.

    Cosmos is one of the bestselling science books of all time!

    Is it science fiction or non-fiction????

    Perhaps it's really a science fiction book.


    just a few Quotes from the book Cosmos by Carl Sagan:



    In all the galaxies, there are
    perhaps as many planets as stars

    Perhaps many stars have planetary systems rather like
    our own: at the periphery, great gaseous ringed planets and icy
    moons, and nearer to the center, small, warm, blue-white, cloud-
    covered worlds.

    Perhaps some day we will know them.

    Perhaps the origin and evolution of life is, given enough
    time, a cosmic inevitability.

    The fossil evidence could be consistent with the idea of a
    Great Designer; perhaps some species are destroyed when the
    Designer becomes dissatisfied with them, and new experiments
    are attempted on an improved design.


    We know from the fossil record that the origin of life
    happened soon after, perhaps around 4.0 billion years ago, in the
    ponds and oceans of the primitive Earth.

    Perhaps there are
    many other planets that today have abundant microbes but no
    big beasts and vegetables.

    Isaac Newton was perhaps
    the greatest scientific genius who ever lived.

    Perhaps it was
    a spaceship of some unimaginably advanced extraterrestrial

    And if there are swamps, why not cycads and dragonflies and
    perhaps even dinosaurs on Venus?

    Perhaps there was an engineering failure just at the moment of
    touchdown. Or perhaps there is something particularly danger-
    ous about the Martian surface.

    Perhaps there are large lifeforms on Mars, but not in our two
    landing sites. Perhaps there are smaller forms in every rock and
    sand grain.

    perhaps even many of the same
    basic molecules, such as proteins and nucleic acids—but put to-
    gether in unfamiliar ways. Perhaps organisms that float in dense
    planetary atmospheres will be very much like us in their atomic
    composition, except they might not have bones and therefore
    not need much calcium. Perhaps elsewhere some solvent other
    than water is used.

    Perhaps time itself
    has many potential dimensions, despite the fact that we are con-
    demned to experience only one of them.

    magic gravity machine—a device with which we could control
    the Earth’s gravity, perhaps by turning a dial.

    But perhaps more interesting is the question of higher dimen-
    sions. Could there be a fourth physical dimension?



    I'm not even halfway with these "perhaps"/ uncertainty or possibility
    quotes from this just one book Cosmos...


    There is nothing in Carls Sagan book Cosmos that is truly non-fiction.


    It's ALL science fintion!


    magic gravity machine?

    dats non-fiction, right? give me a break!



    There is a higher fourth physical dimension.'...


    That's the signpost up ahead—your next stop, the Twilight Zone!









    --
    The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
    to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
    and challenge the unchallengeable.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From The Starmaker@21:1/5 to Physfitfreak on Fri Dec 22 23:21:50 2023
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity

    Physfitfreak wrote:

    On 12/22/2023 11:13 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
    And if there are swamps, why not cycads and dragonflies and
    perhaps even dinosaurs on Venus?

    This "quote" doesn't make sense. Are you again playing around with what
    Sagan said or didn't say? :)

    Did you get your quotes, all, from Cosmos or did you use earlier stuff published by him as well?

    Cosmos was printed in 1980, a few years _after_ Russian probes on Venus reported what was going on and that the possibility of life in those condition were zilch.


    This post is about the word "perhaps". You're unable to focus.

    Do I gotta post the whole book so you can get unfocus again?

    "The absence of anything to see on Venus led some scientists to
    the curious conclusion that the surface was a swamp, like the
    Earth in the Carboniferous Period. The argument—if we can
    dignify it by such a word—went something like this:

    “I can’t see a thing on Venus.”

    “Why not?”

    “Because it’s totally covered with clouds.”

    “What are clouds made of?”

    “Water, of course.”

    “Then why are the clouds of Venus thicker than the
    clouds on Earth?”

    “Because there’s more water there.”

    “But if there is more water in the clouds, there must be
    more water on the surface. What kind of surfaces are very-
    wet:

    swamps.

    And if there are swamps, why not cycads and dragonflies and
    perhaps even dinosaurs on Venus? Observation: There was ab-
    solutely nothing to see on Venus. Conclusion: It must be covered
    with life. The featureless clouds of Venus reflected our own
    predispositions. We are alive, and we resonate with the idea of
    life elsewhere. But only careful accumulation and assessment of
    the evidence can tell us whether a given world is inhabited.
    Venus turns out not to oblige our predispositions." -from the science fiction book Cosmos -Carl Sagan





    Does that help you understand the word "perhaps"?





    PERHAPS


    per·haps
    /p?r'(h)aps/
    adverb
    used to express uncertainty or possibility.

    https://www.google.com/search?q=define+perhaps


    Perhaps.

    Carl Sagan was a con artist. Instead of saying "possibility", he
    would say over and over..."perhaps".


    They say that Carl Sagan only wrote one science fiction book, Contact.

    Cosmos is one of the bestselling science books of all time!

    Is it science fiction or non-fiction????

    Perhaps it's really a science fiction book.


    just a few Quotes from the book Cosmos by Carl Sagan:



    In all the galaxies, there are
    perhaps as many planets as stars

    Perhaps many stars have planetary systems rather like
    our own: at the periphery, great gaseous ringed planets and icy
    moons, and nearer to the center, small, warm, blue-white, cloud-
    covered worlds.

    Perhaps some day we will know them.

    Perhaps the origin and evolution of life is, given enough
    time, a cosmic inevitability.

    The fossil evidence could be consistent with the idea of a
    Great Designer; perhaps some species are destroyed when the
    Designer becomes dissatisfied with them, and new experiments
    are attempted on an improved design.


    We know from the fossil record that the origin of life
    happened soon after, perhaps around 4.0 billion years ago, in the
    ponds and oceans of the primitive Earth.

    Perhaps there are
    many other planets that today have abundant microbes but no
    big beasts and vegetables.

    Isaac Newton was perhaps
    the greatest scientific genius who ever lived.

    Perhaps it was
    a spaceship of some unimaginably advanced extraterrestrial

    And if there are swamps, why not cycads and dragonflies and
    perhaps even dinosaurs on Venus?

    Perhaps there was an engineering failure just at the moment of
    touchdown. Or perhaps there is something particularly danger-
    ous about the Martian surface.

    Perhaps there are large lifeforms on Mars, but not in our two
    landing sites. Perhaps there are smaller forms in every rock and
    sand grain.

    perhaps even many of the same
    basic molecules, such as proteins and nucleic acids—but put to-
    gether in unfamiliar ways. Perhaps organisms that float in dense
    planetary atmospheres will be very much like us in their atomic
    composition, except they might not have bones and therefore
    not need much calcium. Perhaps elsewhere some solvent other
    than water is used.

    Perhaps time itself
    has many potential dimensions, despite the fact that we are con-
    demned to experience only one of them.

    magic gravity machine—a device with which we could control
    the Earth’s gravity, perhaps by turning a dial.

    But perhaps more interesting is the question of higher dimen-
    sions. Could there be a fourth physical dimension?



    I'm not even halfway with these "perhaps"/ uncertainty or possibility
    quotes from this just one book Cosmos...


    There is nothing in Carls Sagan book Cosmos that is truly non-fiction.


    It's ALL science fintion!


    magic gravity machine?

    dats non-fiction, right? give me a break!



    There is a higher fourth physical dimension.'...


    That's the signpost up ahead—your next stop, the Twilight Zone!









    --
    The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
    to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
    and challenge the unchallengeable.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From The Starmaker@21:1/5 to Physfitfreak on Sat Dec 23 14:32:06 2023
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity

    Physfitfreak wrote:

    On 12/23/2023 7:02 AM, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    I remember reading a scifi novel of the 50s where the hero (USAn of course) was about to wipe out the Venusians.

    Modern Humans knew even back then how to make money using these Sheep.

    But no one I know has come close to Velikovsky in terms of the scale and thoroughness with which he exploited these Sheep, using only scifi!

    The generation of Modern Humans before Velikovsky, were essentially
    doing the same thing but writing "Freudian psychology" scifis. Americans
    were thinking they were reading scientific works :-))

    Hahhhaha :)

    God what Sheep these cro-magnons are.


    Immanuel Velikovsky was a Russian-American psychoanalyst, writer, and catastrophist.
    He is the author of several books offering pseudohistorical interpretations of ancient history

    Pseudohistory is purported history which:
    Treats myths, legends, sagas and similar literature as literal truth

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pseudohistory


    Is this some kind of a joke?


    Controversy reigned when the book's publisher (Macmillan) was forced to tear up Velikovsky's contract ...
    https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Immanuel_Velikovsky



    Physfitfreak/PhysSuperfreak


    --
    The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
    to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
    and challenge the unchallengeable.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From The Starmaker@21:1/5 to The Starmaker on Tue Dec 26 22:03:39 2023
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity

    The Starmaker wrote:

    Physfitfreak wrote:

    On 12/23/2023 7:02 AM, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    I remember reading a scifi novel of the 50s where the hero (USAn of course) was about to wipe out the Venusians.

    Modern Humans knew even back then how to make money using these Sheep.

    But no one I know has come close to Velikovsky in terms of the scale and thoroughness with which he exploited these Sheep, using only scifi!

    The generation of Modern Humans before Velikovsky, were essentially
    doing the same thing but writing "Freudian psychology" scifis. Americans were thinking they were reading scientific works :-))

    Hahhhaha :)

    God what Sheep these cro-magnons are.

    Immanuel Velikovsky was a Russian-American psychoanalyst, writer, and catastrophist.
    He is the author of several books offering pseudohistorical interpretations of ancient history

    Pseudohistory is purported history which:
    Treats myths, legends, sagas and similar literature as literal truth

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pseudohistory

    Is this some kind of a joke?

    Controversy reigned when the book's publisher (Macmillan) was forced to tear up Velikovsky's contract ...
    https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Immanuel_Velikovsky


    Who is the biggest joke, Sagan or Velikovsky?




    --
    The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
    to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
    and challenge the unchallengeable.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From The Starmaker@21:1/5 to The Starmaker on Wed Dec 27 12:25:22 2023
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity

    The Starmaker wrote:

    The Starmaker wrote:

    Physfitfreak wrote:

    On 12/23/2023 7:02 AM, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    I remember reading a scifi novel of the 50s where the hero (USAn of course) was about to wipe out the Venusians.

    Modern Humans knew even back then how to make money using these Sheep.

    But no one I know has come close to Velikovsky in terms of the scale and thoroughness with which he exploited these Sheep, using only scifi!

    The generation of Modern Humans before Velikovsky, were essentially
    doing the same thing but writing "Freudian psychology" scifis. Americans were thinking they were reading scientific works :-))

    Hahhhaha :)

    God what Sheep these cro-magnons are.

    Immanuel Velikovsky was a Russian-American psychoanalyst, writer, and catastrophist.
    He is the author of several books offering pseudohistorical interpretations of ancient history

    Pseudohistory is purported history which:
    Treats myths, legends, sagas and similar literature as literal truth

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pseudohistory

    Is this some kind of a joke?

    Controversy reigned when the book's publisher (Macmillan) was forced to tear up Velikovsky's contract ...
    https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Immanuel_Velikovsky

    Who is the biggest joke, Sagan or Velikovsky?


    When I saw dis Velikovsky guy on the internet I said to myself...

    "ON MY GAWD, DIS Physfitfreak IS FUCKED UP IN THE HEAD ALSO????"


    IS EVERYONE RETARDED HERE???

    I was right, you guys are a mistake of Nature! You'res nots supposes to
    be heres ons earth.

    Somehows yous gots throughs bys mistake.

    Albert Einstein was a mistake, right? 1 in a trillion...


    It explains why Nature is always trying to get rid of these mistakes....

    if there are 6 million mistakes, nature sends somebody to fix the
    mistake.


    Albert Einstein escaped Germany...

    he foresaw the virus going to eat him up.






    --
    The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
    to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
    and challenge the unchallengeable.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From The Starmaker@21:1/5 to Physfitfreak on Wed Dec 27 21:17:34 2023
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity

    Physfitfreak wrote:

    On 12/27/2023 2:25 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
    if there are 6 million mistakes, nature sends somebody to fix the
    mistake.

    Do you think you, Star, are a mistake?

    This is Usenet here...

    i was sent here to correct the mistakes.






    --
    The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
    to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
    and challenge the unchallengeable.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From The Starmaker@21:1/5 to The Starmaker on Wed Dec 27 23:17:54 2023
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity

    furthermore, there is no category for earth science at the Noble Prize department.



    The Starmaker wrote:

    Physfitfreak wrote:

    On 12/22/2023 11:13 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
    And if there are swamps, why not cycads and dragonflies and
    perhaps even dinosaurs on Venus?

    This "quote" doesn't make sense. Are you again playing around with what Sagan said or didn't say? :)

    Did you get your quotes, all, from Cosmos or did you use earlier stuff published by him as well?

    Cosmos was printed in 1980, a few years _after_ Russian probes on Venus reported what was going on and that the possibility of life in those condition were zilch.

    This post is about the word "perhaps". You're unable to focus.

    Do I gotta post the whole book so you can get unfocus again?

    "The absence of anything to see on Venus led some scientists to
    the curious conclusion that the surface was a swamp, like the
    Earth in the Carboniferous Period. The argument—if we can
    dignify it by such a word—went something like this:

    “I can’t see a thing on Venus.”

    “Why not?”

    “Because it’s totally covered with clouds.”

    “What are clouds made of?”

    “Water, of course.”

    “Then why are the clouds of Venus thicker than the
    clouds on Earth?”

    “Because there’s more water there.”

    “But if there is more water in the clouds, there must be
    more water on the surface. What kind of surfaces are very-
    wet:

    swamps.

    And if there are swamps, why not cycads and dragonflies and
    perhaps even dinosaurs on Venus? Observation: There was ab-
    solutely nothing to see on Venus. Conclusion: It must be covered
    with life. The featureless clouds of Venus reflected our own
    predispositions. We are alive, and we resonate with the idea of
    life elsewhere. But only careful accumulation and assessment of
    the evidence can tell us whether a given world is inhabited.
    Venus turns out not to oblige our predispositions." -from the science fiction book Cosmos -Carl Sagan

    Does that help you understand the word "perhaps"?

    PERHAPS

    per·haps
    /p?r'(h)aps/
    adverb
    used to express uncertainty or possibility.

    https://www.google.com/search?q=define+perhaps

    Perhaps.

    Carl Sagan was a con artist. Instead of saying "possibility", he
    would say over and over..."perhaps".

    They say that Carl Sagan only wrote one science fiction book, Contact.

    Cosmos is one of the bestselling science books of all time!

    Is it science fiction or non-fiction????

    Perhaps it's really a science fiction book.

    just a few Quotes from the book Cosmos by Carl Sagan:

    In all the galaxies, there are
    perhaps as many planets as stars

    Perhaps many stars have planetary systems rather like
    our own: at the periphery, great gaseous ringed planets and icy
    moons, and nearer to the center, small, warm, blue-white, cloud-
    covered worlds.

    Perhaps some day we will know them.

    Perhaps the origin and evolution of life is, given enough
    time, a cosmic inevitability.

    The fossil evidence could be consistent with the idea of a
    Great Designer; perhaps some species are destroyed when the
    Designer becomes dissatisfied with them, and new experiments
    are attempted on an improved design.

    We know from the fossil record that the origin of life
    happened soon after, perhaps around 4.0 billion years ago, in the
    ponds and oceans of the primitive Earth.

    Perhaps there are
    many other planets that today have abundant microbes but no
    big beasts and vegetables.

    Isaac Newton was perhaps
    the greatest scientific genius who ever lived.

    Perhaps it was
    a spaceship of some unimaginably advanced extraterrestrial

    And if there are swamps, why not cycads and dragonflies and
    perhaps even dinosaurs on Venus?

    Perhaps there was an engineering failure just at the moment of
    touchdown. Or perhaps there is something particularly danger-
    ous about the Martian surface.

    Perhaps there are large lifeforms on Mars, but not in our two
    landing sites. Perhaps there are smaller forms in every rock and
    sand grain.

    perhaps even many of the same
    basic molecules, such as proteins and nucleic acids—but put to-
    gether in unfamiliar ways. Perhaps organisms that float in dense
    planetary atmospheres will be very much like us in their atomic
    composition, except they might not have bones and therefore
    not need much calcium. Perhaps elsewhere some solvent other
    than water is used.

    Perhaps time itself
    has many potential dimensions, despite the fact that we are con-
    demned to experience only one of them.

    magic gravity machine—a device with which we could control
    the Earth’s gravity, perhaps by turning a dial.

    But perhaps more interesting is the question of higher dimen-
    sions. Could there be a fourth physical dimension?

    I'm not even halfway with these "perhaps"/ uncertainty or possibility
    quotes from this just one book Cosmos...

    There is nothing in Carls Sagan book Cosmos that is truly non-fiction.

    It's ALL science fintion!

    magic gravity machine?

    dats non-fiction, right? give me a break!

    There is a higher fourth physical dimension.'...

    That's the signpost up ahead—your next stop, the Twilight Zone!



    --
    The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
    to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
    and challenge the unchallengeable.

    --
    The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
    to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
    and challenge the unchallengeable.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From The Starmaker@21:1/5 to Physfitfreak on Thu Dec 28 20:11:40 2023
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity

    Physfitfreak wrote:

    On 12/27/2023 11:17 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
    Physfitfreak wrote:

    On 12/27/2023 2:25 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
    if there are 6 million mistakes, nature sends somebody to fix the
    mistake.

    Do you think you, Star, are a mistake?

    This is Usenet here...

    i was sent here to correct the mistakes.







    Did one of the mistakes send you here?


    The Earth is a mistake.

    --
    The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
    to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
    and challenge the unchallengeable.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From The Starmaker@21:1/5 to The Starmaker on Sat Dec 30 13:15:51 2023
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity

    The Starmaker wrote:


    The Earth is a mistake.


    The reason why yous don't see another earth is because the Earth is a
    mistake.


    come on, from dinosaurs to people?


    the earth doesn't know what to do.

    you weren't suppose to be here...

    yous are a mistake.


    i don't even know how you got through.







    --
    The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
    to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
    and challenge the unchallengeable.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From The Starmaker@21:1/5 to Physfitfreak on Sat Dec 30 19:29:38 2023
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity

    Physfitfreak wrote:

    On 12/30/2023 7:10 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:
    On 12/30/2023 3:15 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
    The Starmaker wrote:


    The Earth is a mistake.


    The reason why yous don't see another earth is because the Earth is a
    mistake.


    come on, from dinosaurs to people?


    the earth doesn't know what to do.

    you weren't suppose to be here...

    yous are a mistake.


    i don't even know how you got through.









    I wouldn't call it a mistake, but a special situation.

    Matter can indeed form strange combinations. If one of them happens to
    have a simple drive about it for making its own copies as long as the combination and the drive are intact, then a life form has begun and
    leads to what you see now.

    Life is not even a "special situation." A better description is, "a
    silly situation."



    next you'll be quoting bob dylan...


    --
    The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
    to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
    and challenge the unchallengeable.

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  • From The Starmaker@21:1/5 to Physfitfreak on Sat Dec 30 20:28:55 2023
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity

    Physfitfreak wrote:

    On 12/30/2023 7:10 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:
    On 12/30/2023 3:15 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
    The Starmaker wrote:


    The Earth is a mistake.


    The reason why yous don't see another earth is because the Earth is a
    mistake.


    come on, from dinosaurs to people?


    the earth doesn't know what to do.

    you weren't suppose to be here...

    yous are a mistake.


    i don't even know how you got through.









    I wouldn't call it a mistake, but a special situation.

    Matter can indeed form strange combinations. If one of them happens to
    have a simple drive about it for making its own copies as long as the combination and the drive are intact, then a life form has begun and
    leads to what you see now.

    Life is not even a "special situation." A better description is, "a
    silly situation."


    what you mean by silly situation...is a gag.

    a big universal
    highly complicated and
    fantastically conceived
    pratical joke
    being played on you...
    isn't it?


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  • From The Starmaker@21:1/5 to Physfitfreak on Sun Dec 31 11:53:01 2023
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity

    Physfitfreak wrote:

    On 12/30/2023 10:28 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
    Physfitfreak wrote:

    On 12/30/2023 7:10 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:
    On 12/30/2023 3:15 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
    The Starmaker wrote:


    The Earth is a mistake.


    The reason why yous don't see another earth is because the Earth is a >>>> mistake.


    come on, from dinosaurs to people?


    the earth doesn't know what to do.

    you weren't suppose to be here...

    yous are a mistake.


    i don't even know how you got through.









    I wouldn't call it a mistake, but a special situation.

    Matter can indeed form strange combinations. If one of them happens to >>> have a simple drive about it for making its own copies as long as the
    combination and the drive are intact, then a life form has begun and
    leads to what you see now.

    Life is not even a "special situation." A better description is, "a
    silly situation."


    what you mean by silly situation...is a gag.

    a big universal
    highly complicated and
    fantastically conceived
    pratical joke
    being played on you...
    isn't it?



    You're a silly situation.

    You're a Carl Sagan fan...tells us about those dinosaours on the planet
    Venus?


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  • From The Starmaker@21:1/5 to starmaker@ix.netcom.com on Sun Jan 21 13:20:37 2024
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity

    Now, do yous know where Carl Sagan got the idea of
    the title of the book..."Cosmos"????


    Of course, he got the idea from...The Babylon's

    (and probably the whole entire bible of theirs!)


    Carl Sagan stole The Babylon's idea of their book,
    which was
    'the origin and the order of the universe as a whole'...
    'the primary purpose of the universe'

    and that is what Carl Sagan brought about in...Cosmos.


    He finished The Babylon book.


    He just omitted the 'people' stories in the book.


    He focused on 'the origin and the order of the universe as a whole'.


    stolen from the babylons.



    like everybody else did..


    except everybody else stole the 'people' ideas...


    Dinosaurs on Venus???



    is dat from the babylons or did he just made that up? embellish.


    (he got bored with his own book)



    Boy, dat Cosmos PBS TV series had to be the most boring show on
    earth!!!








    On Fri, 22 Dec 2023 21:13:14 -0800, The Starmaker
    <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

    On Sat, 16 Dec 2023 12:40:11 -0800, The Starmaker
    <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

    Carl Edward Sagan was an American astronomer and science communicator.
    His best known scientific contribution is his research on the possibility of extraterrestrial life.
    He assembled the first physical messages sent into space
    which were universal messages that could potentially be understood by any extraterrestrial intelligence that might find them.


    Astronomy is the study of everything in the universe beyond Earth's atmosphere.


    That means a space nut.


    PERHAPS


    per·haps
    /p?r'(h)aps/
    adverb
    used to express uncertainty or possibility.

    https://www.google.com/search?q=define+perhaps


    Perhaps.

    Carl Sagan was a con artist. Instead of saying "possibility", he
    would say over and over..."perhaps".


    They say that Carl Sagan only wrote one science fiction book, Contact.

    Cosmos is one of the bestselling science books of all time!

    Is it science fiction or non-fiction????

    Perhaps it's really a science fiction book.


    just a few Quotes from the book Cosmos by Carl Sagan:



    In all the galaxies, there are
    perhaps as many planets as stars

    Perhaps many stars have planetary systems rather like
    our own: at the periphery, great gaseous ringed planets and icy
    moons, and nearer to the center, small, warm, blue-white, cloud-
    covered worlds.

    Perhaps some day we will know them.

    Perhaps the origin and evolution of life is, given enough
    time, a cosmic inevitability.

    The fossil evidence could be consistent with the idea of a
    Great Designer; perhaps some species are destroyed when the
    Designer becomes dissatisfied with them, and new experiments
    are attempted on an improved design.


    We know from the fossil record that the origin of life
    happened soon after, perhaps around 4.0 billion years ago, in the
    ponds and oceans of the primitive Earth.

    Perhaps there are
    many other planets that today have abundant microbes but no
    big beasts and vegetables.

    Isaac Newton was perhaps
    the greatest scientific genius who ever lived.

    Perhaps it was
    a spaceship of some unimaginably advanced extraterrestrial

    And if there are swamps, why not cycads and dragonflies and
    perhaps even dinosaurs on Venus?

    Perhaps there was an engineering failure just at the moment of
    touchdown. Or perhaps there is something particularly danger-
    ous about the Martian surface.

    Perhaps there are large lifeforms on Mars, but not in our two
    landing sites. Perhaps there are smaller forms in every rock and
    sand grain.

    perhaps even many of the same
    basic molecules, such as proteins and nucleic acids—but put to-
    gether in unfamiliar ways. Perhaps organisms that float in dense
    planetary atmospheres will be very much like us in their atomic
    composition, except they might not have bones and therefore
    not need much calcium. Perhaps elsewhere some solvent other
    than water is used.

    Perhaps time itself
    has many potential dimensions, despite the fact that we are con-
    demned to experience only one of them.

    magic gravity machine—a device with which we could control
    the Earth’s gravity, perhaps by turning a dial.

    But perhaps more interesting is the question of higher dimen-
    sions. Could there be a fourth physical dimension?



    I'm not even halfway with these "perhaps"/ uncertainty or possibility
    quotes from this just one book Cosmos...


    There is nothing in Carls Sagan book Cosmos that is truly non-fiction.


    It's ALL science fintion!


    magic gravity machine?

    dats non-fiction, right? give me a break!



    There is a higher fourth physical dimension.'...


    That's the signpost up ahead—your next stop, the Twilight Zone!
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